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ShangDoh
12/17/18 12:40:21 PM
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Is Trump even aware that his proposed wall goes right through several tribal reservations and a shit ton of private land? Even if the Dems give in to his childish tantrum, the wall is going to get buried under a ton of litigation for years to come eminent domain or no eminent domain.
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BruceWayneJr
12/17/18 12:44:31 PM
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It's theater for his meathead base. He'd rather they be focused on him fighting for a campaign promise than picking up on all the Mueller and Trump org investigations. More reality tv bullshit to distract dummies, as usual. It's how he got the job after all.
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A_Good_Boy
12/17/18 12:46:28 PM
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For some reason his base thinks that it's the Dems fault that Trump won't get his wall despite them being irrelevant to the political process for all of Trump's term up until January.
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Funkydog
12/17/18 12:46:56 PM
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More reality tv bullshit to distract dummies, as usual. It's how he got the job after all.

This. If Trump knows anything, it's drama.
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ShangDoh
12/17/18 12:50:45 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
For some reason his base thinks that it's the Dems fault that Trump won't get his wall despite them being irrelevant to the political process for all of Trump's term up until January.

Good point, even most republicans in congress know how stupid the wall really is.
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Orlando_Jordan
12/17/18 12:52:06 PM
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Imagine being against overpaid and underperforming politicians not getting paid. A government shut down is great.
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CyricZ
12/17/18 12:55:19 PM
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So there are other people besides politicians who work for the government in some capacity.

Roughly 2,000,000 at last count.

Shutdowns mean they don't get paid.
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ShangDoh
12/17/18 1:00:18 PM
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Orlando_Jordan posted...
Imagine being against overpaid and underperforming politicians not getting paid. A government shut down is great.

It doesn't work like that, members of congress and their staff still get paid even during a shutdown, they've made sure of that fact. It's the low level Fed employees who are about to take it up the ass.
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treewojima
12/17/18 1:00:32 PM
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CyricZ posted...
So there are other people besides politicians who work for the government in some capacity.

Roughly 2,000,000 at last count.

Shutdowns mean they don't get paid.


meanwhile, the people must directly responsible for the shutdown, the President and Congress, still get paid
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eston
12/17/18 1:01:49 PM
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Well you see, if we shut down our own government then Mexico will have no choice but to pay for the wall.

This is 6D chess, people
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/18 1:18:20 PM
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The only "shutdown" that actually happens is a handful of redundant desk-jockeys get to stay home.
Anything past that is "turn the screw" grandstanding, like when Obama "shut down" the park service and locked some veterans out of a memorial.

I suspect Trump is going to turn a few screws.
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creativerealms
12/17/18 1:19:19 PM
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To once again show that the republicans need to have things their way.
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Uncle Choad
12/17/18 1:27:02 PM
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Idk, but I still want that wall.
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Ambience
12/17/18 1:28:47 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Idk, but I still want that wall.

The wall is never happening. It's a useless vanity project anyways that only idiots actually think is worth it.
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Christian RULES
12/17/18 1:29:18 PM
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We WILL get that wall. How we're gonna get it is up to the Dems
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ShangDoh
12/17/18 1:30:55 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
We WILL get that wall. How we're gonna get it is up to the Dems

No you are not. The private ranchers and Indian Tribes whose land are directly threatened are going to bury that wall under a mountain of lawsuits.
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Guide
12/17/18 1:32:35 PM
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Christian RULES posted...
We WILL get that wall. How we're gonna get it is up to the Dems


Wanna make an account bet on it?
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prince_leo
12/17/18 1:35:06 PM
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I mean, I still have to work and won't get paid
luckily last time this happened we all got offered 0% interest loans so when our backpay came in we were basically unaffected, but it's still a little scary to know you're not getting paid for your work
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creativerealms
12/17/18 3:49:12 PM
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The wall is the dumbest idea ever.
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 6:32:00 AM
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Ambience posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Idk, but I still want that wall.

The wall is never happening. It's a useless vanity project anyways that only idiots actually think is worth it.


Can we at least try it out to see who's right? I like to test stuff out!
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Foppe
12/18/18 6:34:59 AM
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ShangDoh posted...
Is Trump even aware that his proposed wall goes right through several tribal reservations and a shit ton of private land? Even if the Dems give in to his childish tantrum, the wall is going to get buried under a ton of litigation for years to come eminent domain or no eminent domain.

Because Trump is ignorant and believes that the only thing he needs to do is to make Mexicans pay for it and it will magically appear the next day.
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SSJCAT
12/18/18 6:37:01 AM
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fuckin dumbass crybaby in chief
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iClockwork
12/18/18 6:40:16 AM
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Democrats need to stick to their promise that they would be bipartisan and work with Republicans. The nation elected Donald Trump who ran on the promise to build the wall and Democrats need to fund the will of the American people instad of trying to use a shutdown as bargaining power.
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Dampproof
12/18/18 6:40:45 AM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Ambience posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Idk, but I still want that wall.

The wall is never happening. It's a useless vanity project anyways that only idiots actually think is worth it.


Can we at least try it out to see who's right? I like to test stuff out!


What would be the point? Most illegal immigration is caused by overstays on expired VISA's. What is a wall going to do to prevent that? Its legal entry and it happens mostly by air/sea.
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 6:57:33 AM
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Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Ambience posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Idk, but I still want that wall.

The wall is never happening. It's a useless vanity project anyways that only idiots actually think is worth it.


Can we at least try it out to see who's right? I like to test stuff out!


What would be the point? Most illegal immigration is caused by overstays on expired VISA's. What is a wall going to do to prevent that? Its legal entry and it happens mostly by air/sea.


Where does most of the fentanyl come from though? And the usable people and stuff.

I know a few Irish and German illegals who are professional babysitters ("nannies", lol), and they gotta go too. GIT!
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 6:58:28 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Democrats need to stick to their promise that they would be bipartisan and work with Republicans. The nation elected Donald Trump who ran on the promise to build the wall and Democrats need to fund the will of the American people instad of trying to use a shutdown as bargaining power.


I like how they had to change their mind about illegal immigration because of the media. lol
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TheRealDill2000
12/18/18 7:02:27 AM
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ShangDoh posted...
Christian RULES posted...
We WILL get that wall. How we're gonna get it is up to the Dems

No you are not. The private ranchers and Indian Tribes whose land are directly threatened are going to bury that wall under a mountain of lawsuits.

This is a BORDER wall. How would it affect anyone's land?
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Master_Bass
12/18/18 7:05:22 AM
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prince_leo posted...
I mean, I still have to work and won't get paid
luckily last time this happened we all got offered 0% interest loans so when our backpay came in we were basically unaffected, but it's still a little scary to know you're not getting paid for your work

Yeah, shut downs are really stupid. We almost always get paid eventually anyway and my agency has capital allocated to pay us in case the government shuts down, so we just keep working anyway.
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Dampproof
12/18/18 7:18:48 AM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 7:30:02 AM
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Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China


Whoa, do they ship it here or smuggle it all in through airports?
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whitelytning
12/18/18 7:31:33 AM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China


Whoa, do they ship it here or smuggle it all in through airports?


Yes.
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Dampproof
12/18/18 9:46:41 AM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China


Whoa, do they ship it here or smuggle it all in through airports?


Both. Some is legally bought online and shipped directly to your house, while others are smuggled through for an example fake testing kits.
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Irony
12/18/18 9:49:01 AM
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I'm going to shut down the government unless you take a picture of a midget holding these balloons
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Giant_Aspirin
12/18/18 9:50:47 AM
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Orlando_Jordan posted...
Imagine being against overpaid and underperforming politicians not getting paid. A government shut down is great.


the shutdown affects A LOT more people than just politicians. those Secret Service agents who literally are willing to sacrifice their lives to protect Trump are not going to be paid because of Trump's temper tantrum, for example.
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Zerocide
12/18/18 9:54:19 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Orlando_Jordan posted...
Imagine being against overpaid and underperforming politicians not getting paid. A government shut down is great.


the shutdown affects A LOT more people than just politicians. those Secret Service agents who literally are willing to sacrifice their lives to protect Trump are not going to be paid because of Trump's temper tantrum, for example.

HAHAHA shit, those SS agents better find a new line of work if it happens. There's no way in hell I'm sacrificing my life for a dude who's screwing me out of my pay.
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DevsBro
12/18/18 9:57:58 AM
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ShangDoh posted...
Is Trump even aware that his proposed wall goes right through several tribal reservations and a s*** ton of private land?

And yet somehow they build Interstate highways.
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Doom_Art
12/18/18 9:58:38 AM
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iClockwork posted...
The nation elected Donald Trump who ran on the promise to build the wall and Democrats need to fund the will of the American people instad of trying to use a shutdown as bargaining power.

The Dems don't want a wall and the nation just recently elected them to a majority in Congress

So I'm not sure why it should be on them to accommodate Trump
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JE19426
12/18/18 10:15:08 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Democrats need to stick to their promise that they would be bipartisan and work with Republicans.


Being bipartisan, and working with the other side, doesn't mean being professional "yes men".

The nation elected Donald Trump who ran on the promise to build the wall and Democrats need to fund the will of the American people instad of trying to use a shutdown as bargaining power.


I'm lmao at your attempts to pin the possible shutdown on Democrats.

TheRealDill2000 posted...
This is a BORDER wall. How would it affect anyone's land?


Because people own land on the border.
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TomNook20
12/18/18 10:18:34 AM
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The government never actually does anything, and at some point they get tired of pretending that they do, so they just make it official.
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ShangDoh
12/18/18 11:40:30 AM
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https://tinyurl.com/y7vvjpoo

Looks someone in the Trump admin backhanded some sense into the idiot.

TheRealDill2000 posted...
ShangDoh posted...
Christian RULES posted...
We WILL get that wall. How we're gonna get it is up to the Dems

No you are not. The private ranchers and Indian Tribes whose land are directly threatened are going to bury that wall under a mountain of lawsuits.

This is a BORDER wall. How would it affect anyone's land?

Are you kidding me right now? A lot of the land on the border is privately owned by either private owners or native tribes in the region. Even if he gets funding for the fall, it's going to get bogged down in lawsuits launched by a bunch of pissed of people who are having their land ruined by a dumb wall that won't do anything.
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 11:44:29 AM
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Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China


Whoa, do they ship it here or smuggle it all in through airports?


Both. Some is legally bought online and shipped directly to your house, while others are smuggled through for an example fake testing kits.


And 0% of it comes in illegally across the border. (Boarder)
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Foppe
12/18/18 11:48:41 AM
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How does it enter the country if it pass no border?
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DarkChozoGhost
12/18/18 12:02:02 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China


Whoa, do they ship it here or smuggle it all in through airports?


Both. Some is legally bought online and shipped directly to your house, while others are smuggled through for an example fake testing kits.


And 0% of it comes in illegally across the border. (Boarder)

Basically
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Dampproof
12/18/18 12:46:29 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Where does most of the fentanyl come from though?

China


Whoa, do they ship it here or smuggle it all in through airports?


Both. Some is legally bought online and shipped directly to your house, while others are smuggled through for an example fake testing kits.


And 0% of it comes in illegally across the border. (Boarder)


If you want to justify the waste 5 billion dollars to tackle the lower end % of Fentanyl supply through Mexico go ahead.

But to me that doesnt seem like fiscal responsibility to me. Especially when it can just continue to come from Canada (which it already does) and direct from China (also already does) without skipping a beat. Doesn't affect the larger picture and the country is out 5 billion dollars on a medieval solution to a modern problem which will end up marginally affected anything. While the true source continues.
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 1:02:31 PM
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Dampproof posted...

If you want to justify the waste 5 billion dollars to tackle the lower end % of Fentanyl supply through Mexico go ahead.


Children keep dying from their lack of parenting (and fentanyl). Why won't you think of the children?

Even if we save one life, it's worth it.
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Foppe
12/18/18 1:54:24 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...

If you want to justify the waste 5 billion dollars to tackle the lower end % of Fentanyl supply through Mexico go ahead.


Children keep dying from their lack of parenting (and fentanyl). Why won't you think of the children?

Even if we save one life, it's worth it.

So why not ban guns as well?
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 3:18:40 PM
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Foppe posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...

If you want to justify the waste 5 billion dollars to tackle the lower end % of Fentanyl supply through Mexico go ahead.


Children keep dying from their lack of parenting (and fentanyl). Why won't you think of the children?

Even if we save one life, it's worth it.

So why not ban guns as well?


If we build a wall (a great wall, believe me) and deport 100% of illegals (criminal aliens), maybe I'll think about it.
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Foppe
12/18/18 3:24:48 PM
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Uncle Choad posted...
Foppe posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...

If you want to justify the waste 5 billion dollars to tackle the lower end % of Fentanyl supply through Mexico go ahead.


Children keep dying from their lack of parenting (and fentanyl). Why won't you think of the children?

Even if we save one life, it's worth it.

So why not ban guns as well?


If we build a wall (a great wall, believe me) and deport 100% of illegals (criminal aliens), maybe I'll think about it.

But if banning guns allows us to save one life, it's worth it!
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SocialistGamer
12/18/18 3:26:29 PM
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To let the battery recharge.
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Uncle Choad
12/18/18 3:28:16 PM
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Foppe posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Foppe posted...
Uncle Choad posted...
Dampproof posted...

If you want to justify the waste 5 billion dollars to tackle the lower end % of Fentanyl supply through Mexico go ahead.


Children keep dying from their lack of parenting (and fentanyl). Why won't you think of the children?

Even if we save one life, it's worth it.

So why not ban guns as well?


If we build a wall (a great wall, believe me) and deport 100% of illegals (criminal aliens), maybe I'll think about it.

But if banning guns allows us to save one life, it's worth it!


Yes, but it's contingent on the wall, because I said it first. : D
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