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Antifar
12/11/18 12:43:22 PM
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andel
12/11/18 12:44:55 PM
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fair, next. should get life no parole
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hockeybub89
12/11/18 12:46:03 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/11/18 12:46:26 PM
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Honestly he's the perfect candidate for the death penalty.

There's no question to his guilt, his lack of remorse, or any institutional biases.
And Virginia has one of the shortest waiting periods for death row.
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Zerocide
12/11/18 12:47:28 PM
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andel posted...
fair, next. should get life no parole

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CADE FOSTER
12/11/18 12:47:53 PM
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Jagr_68
12/11/18 12:48:17 PM
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Um, can we just skip to the execution so no one's tax dollars aren't spent on this fucker?
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spikethedevil
12/11/18 12:49:54 PM
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The responces in the twitter feed are disgusting.
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TheRealDill2000
12/11/18 12:50:42 PM
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andel posted...
fair, next. should get life no parole

I can't agree with that, assuming he doesn't have a criminal history. Everyone should have a 2nd shot.
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hockeybub89
12/11/18 12:51:52 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Honestly he's the perfect candidate for the death penalty.

There's no question to his guilt, his lack of remorse, or any institutional biases.
And Virginia has one of the shortest waiting periods for death row.

He's a person and the government should not have that power, so actually no one is the perfect candidate for the death penalty. I hate that my state is still so primitive.
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andel
12/11/18 12:59:28 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Honestly he's the perfect candidate for the death penalty.

There's no question to his guilt, his lack of remorse, or any institutional biases.
And Virginia has one of the shortest waiting periods for death row.

He's a person and the government should not have that power, so actually no one is the perfect candidate for the death penalty. I hate that my state is still so primitive.


this tbh. some people deserve to be killed and this is one of them but the state shouldnt be killing people
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CADE FOSTER
12/11/18 1:07:40 PM
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He deserves death he has no remorse what so ever a person of color gets death
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Giant_Aspirin
12/11/18 1:08:17 PM
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which prison gang do you think he'll join
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darkprince45
12/11/18 1:08:52 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
andel posted...
fair, next. should get life no parole

I can't agree with that, assuming he doesn't have a criminal history. Everyone should have a 2nd shot.

Shes not getting a 2nd shot. Shes dead
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PiOverlord
12/11/18 1:09:24 PM
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The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.
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DifferentialEquation
12/11/18 1:10:11 PM
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andel posted...
but the state shouldnt be killing people


Why not?
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:13:15 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.
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andel
12/11/18 1:14:37 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
andel posted...
but the state shouldnt be killing people


Why not?


because there is way too much room for error and innocent people have been proven to have been killed by the death penalty. life with no parole is good enough as it ensures the worst offenders will never be free and a threat to society again
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andel
12/11/18 1:14:56 PM
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Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


but it is proven to not work as a deterrent
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ultimate reaver
12/11/18 1:19:38 PM
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Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


It has been statistically proven not to work that way
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Kineth
12/11/18 1:21:25 PM
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If he gets a life sentence, he's gonna be in there rabble rousing with white supremacist gangs in prison and spreading this filth even more...
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andel
12/11/18 1:21:53 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
andel posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Honestly he's the perfect candidate for the death penalty.

There's no question to his guilt, his lack of remorse, or any institutional biases.
And Virginia has one of the shortest waiting periods for death row.

He's a person and the government should not have that power, so actually no one is the perfect candidate for the death penalty. I hate that my state is still so primitive.


this tbh. some people deserve to be killed and this is one of them but the state shouldnt be killing people

then who should, if there are people who deserve it?


no one. just because someone doesnt deserve to live doesnt mean the state should be killing them. as previously stated (and you ignored), there have been innocent people executed which makes the death penalty an unethical tool
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:22:52 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


It has been statistically proven not to work that way


andel posted...
Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


but it is proven to not work as a deterrent

Even if it has been proven to not work that way, my point still stands they need to be punished.
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andel
12/11/18 1:25:13 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
andel posted...
no one.

well that doesn't seem like much of a solution.

andel posted...
as previously stated (and you ignored), there have been innocent people executed which makes the death penalty an unethical tool

ignored? i didn't ignore anything. i responded to specifically what i had something to say about and nothing more.


it is a perfectly fine solution as it resolves the problem of these people being a threat to others in society

you still havent responded to that point so i will assume you have no rebuttal
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ultimate reaver
12/11/18 1:25:38 PM
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Zerocide posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


It has been statistically proven not to work that way


andel posted...
Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


but it is proven to not work as a deterrent

Even if it has been proven to not work that way, my point still stands they need to be punished.


They are, with life in prison.

This is what people mean when they say that the death penalty is pointless emotional revenge. Even in the face of facts people give answers like that. Thats proof enough in its own way
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andel
12/11/18 1:31:25 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
andel posted...
it is a perfectly fine solution as it resolves the problem of these people being a threat to others in society

you still havent responded to that point so i will assume you have no rebuttal

what the fuck is this post lol? what is a perfectly fine solution? to what? how does literally no one doing anything about people who, in your own words "deserve to die" resolve the problem of those very same people being a threat to others in society? what the fuck are you talking about? i still haven't responded to what? i made one simple post asking you who you think should kill the people who you said deserve to die, if not the state, since they deserve to die and all. that's all that i had a question about. i am not obligated to respond to anything else.


life in prison is 'literally nothing'?

how can you not comprehend that locking these people up forever eliminates the threat to society? you seem incapable of defending your position and still are dodging the question of how the state killing innocent people is not a problem
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Anteaterking
12/11/18 1:32:28 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
He deserves death he has no remorse what so ever a person of color gets death


Idk if "more ethnically proportional death penalty sentences" is a preferred solution to "no death penalty".
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Zikten
12/11/18 1:32:37 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Um, can we just skip to the execution so no one's tax dollars aren't spent on this fucker?

Death penalty ironically is more expensive than life in prison actually. For various reasons but mostly cause of having to go through Appeals
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Bishop9800
12/11/18 1:40:38 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
The responces in the twitter feed are disgusting.

For real
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:41:21 PM
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andel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
andel posted...
it is a perfectly fine solution as it resolves the problem of these people being a threat to others in society

you still havent responded to that point so i will assume you have no rebuttal

what the fuck is this post lol? what is a perfectly fine solution? to what? how does literally no one doing anything about people who, in your own words "deserve to die" resolve the problem of those very same people being a threat to others in society? what the fuck are you talking about? i still haven't responded to what? i made one simple post asking you who you think should kill the people who you said deserve to die, if not the state, since they deserve to die and all. that's all that i had a question about. i am not obligated to respond to anything else.


life in prison is 'literally nothing'?

how can you not comprehend that locking these people up forever eliminates the threat to society? you seem incapable of defending your position and still are dodging the question of how the state killing innocent people is not a problem

Except history has PROVEN that doesn't work also.

As for your quote, the death penalty is not a act of revenge, it's to deliver to deliver justice. Putting these clowns behind bars means the taxpayers are the one who are insuring his well being.
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ScazarMeltex
12/11/18 1:43:03 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
andel posted...
fair, next. should get life no parole

I can't agree with that, assuming he doesn't have a criminal history. Everyone should have a 2nd shot.

The woman he killed and has zero remorse for doesn't get one, neither should he.
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:44:19 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
The responces in the twitter feed are disgusting.

For real

Now that you mention it..

Gross miscarriage of justice. How dare he go to a protest and have a car accident after people beat on his car with bats! Life in prison is the only appropriate punishment!


One post in and already found a dumbass. Wouldn't be surprised if that's one of Fields' bros.
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andel
12/11/18 1:47:59 PM
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this is the first time you are specifying this in a response to me. i had no way of knowing that's what you were referring to before now. my question to you had to do with who you think should kill the people who deserve to die.

andel posted...
you seem incapable of defending your position

what are you assuming my "position" is based on me asking a simple question?

andel posted...
and still are dodging the question of how the state killing innocent people is not a problem

again, i am not obligated to respond to anything else ITT simply because i came in and asked one question about one specific thing. i really don't understand why you think you have the authority to demand a response to something i have no interest in responding to.


thanks for clarifying you are incapable of carrying on an argument or justifying your position. if you feel like actually having a discussion instead of flailing feel free to come back.

Zerocide posted...
andel posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
andel posted...
it is a perfectly fine solution as it resolves the problem of these people being a threat to others in society

you still havent responded to that point so i will assume you have no rebuttal

what the fuck is this post lol? what is a perfectly fine solution? to what? how does literally no one doing anything about people who, in your own words "deserve to die" resolve the problem of those very same people being a threat to others in society? what the fuck are you talking about? i still haven't responded to what? i made one simple post asking you who you think should kill the people who you said deserve to die, if not the state, since they deserve to die and all. that's all that i had a question about. i am not obligated to respond to anything else.


life in prison is 'literally nothing'?

how can you not comprehend that locking these people up forever eliminates the threat to society? you seem incapable of defending your position and still are dodging the question of how the state killing innocent people is not a problem

Except history has PROVEN that doesn't work also.

As for your quote, the death penalty is not a act of revenge, it's to deliver to deliver justice. Putting these clowns behind bars means the taxpayers are the one who are insuring his well being.


it costs taxpayers more to execute a prisoner than to house then for life so that makes no sense
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Zerocide
12/11/18 1:54:39 PM
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Actually it does hence why I said well being.

I'd rather pay to see him gone then to make sure he's getting healthcare and food.
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andel
12/11/18 2:01:39 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
andel posted...
thanks for clarifying you are incapable of carrying on an argument or justifying your position. if you feel like actually having a discussion instead of flailing feel free to come back.

what the fuck is this bullshit? you have a seriously flawed understanding of how voluntary discourse occurs, and you are reading a ton of shit into my comments that are simply not there. all i did is ask you one simple fucking question.


nah, you clearly took a position and are now unable to substantiate it so you are flailing
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Antifar
12/11/18 2:06:19 PM
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Zerocide posted...
Putting these clowns behind bars means the taxpayers are the one who are insuring his well being.

The appeals process necessary to avoid killing innocent people costs more than the marginal cost of a single prisoner.
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ScazarMeltex
12/11/18 2:07:05 PM
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Antifar posted...
Zerocide posted...
Putting these clowns behind bars means the taxpayers are the one who are insuring his well being.

The appeals process necessary to avoid killing innocent people costs more than the marginal cost of a single prisoner.

And yet it still fails miserably.
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Alucard188
12/11/18 2:08:55 PM
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Zerocide posted...
PiOverlord posted...
The Death Penalty is a barbaric scare tactic and act of revenge.

No it's to punish criminals and should serve as an example to other people should they find themselves failing to show regards for human life.


The death penalty has been used as a deterrent for thousands of years, but it hasn't deterred sweet fuck all. It's treated as a spectacle to make people feel better about themselves. That's it. Lock him up for life with no chance of parole. We'll all forget about him in 5 minutes.
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Bio1590
12/11/18 2:09:02 PM
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Keep him locked up forever in solitary so he doesn't have a chance to spread his shit.
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HenryAllbright
12/11/18 2:14:23 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
then who should, if there are people who deserve it?


With all due respect, I think it's unwise to ever think that somebody deserves to die unless it's necessary for self-defense. I wrote a huge paper in college about why the death penalty should be abolished. There are a lot of good reasons.

Life in prison without parole vs death penalty, as far as setting as an example goes for the rest of society, is pretty neck and neck. There are people out there who would rather be executed than spend life in prison, and vice versa. They are pretty equal punishments.

So, IMO, I think this is a good punishment. I'm glad we're making an example of him.
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spudger
12/11/18 2:22:44 PM
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andel posted...
fair, next. should get life no parole

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CADE FOSTER
12/11/18 3:03:55 PM
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Dudes gonna be a hero to the arian brotherhood in prison so he will live it up
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ledbowman
12/11/18 3:23:32 PM
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That's pretty lucky for a Nazi.
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HiddenLurker
12/11/18 3:30:51 PM
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Fair.
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