It wouldnt surprise me at all to learn that he was in fact a gay man
I thought he and the whore mary were a thing (not the virigin mary.. the other mary that slept around)
A common line of thought is that she wasn't a whore, she was his wife. It wasn't until later that Christian writers who had a vested interest in minimizing his life as a man to emphasize his life as some sort of divine magical being decided to rewrite her narrative to demonize her and minimize her importance.
The early Church spent a few hundred years fighting over whether Jesus was a man or a god in man form or a god who just looked like a man, and whether or not he was the literal son of god or a manifestation of god or some sort of complicated multifaceted avatar of god that simultaneously coexisted with the other aspects of god, to the point where people were pretty much ready to kill over different interpretations. So once one faction basically won the argument, there was a vested interested in eliminating any evidence that supported any position but your own.
It's actually one of the theories why there's currently no physical evidence that Jesus existed (that we know of) - because in the centuries that followed, especially after Rome converted, there was ample opportunity for them to find and destroy any evidence that existed. Because it might have supported the idea that Jesus was just a man who firmly considered himself a Jew, and rather than coming forward to present an entirely new religious philosophy in his own name he just claimed to be a descendant of King David who was thus rightful heir to the Jewish kingdom on Earth, who encouraged resistance to Roman rule (for which they killed him as a political rebel).
It also doesn't help that the legitimate lines of descent would have stayed in Jerusalem or the same general area, so any direct evidence of him or his siblings or his potential wife and children and the actual Jewish sect he theoretically founded (which would have been run by his brother James and Peter, NOT Paul) would have been pretty much annihilated 40 years later when Vespasian and Titus burned Jerusalem, or 50 years after that when Rome leveled Jerusalem and the Jewish diaspora started.
Christianity as it currently exists basically stems from the leadership of a man who never met Jesus at any point in his life, only knew his teaching second or third-hand, and which mostly succeeded because the only direct opposition to it was wiped out in the first hundred years or so.
Well said, but you cannot expect Jesus to toot his own horn. The fact that it was other people who wrote about him is more proof that he ascended to heaven, and it is said that once in heaven no one returns in the flesh. This is where reincarnation plays a part, I believe we are all given many chances to go back to earth, or if earth is destroyed, another planet all together.
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If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood
He could have existed but there isnt any actual historical evidence that he did
Roman history isn't historical now?
There are no Roman documents of Jesus. The only actual "evidence" of Jesus ever being a real person is the Bible, and you cannot use Source A to prove that Source A is true.
There are no Roman documents of Jesus. The only actual "evidence" of Jesus ever being a real person is the Bible, and you cannot use Source A to prove that Source A is true.
Most people who cite Roman history are pointing to the fact that the Bible seems to accurately represent the political situation in Judea at the time, and Pilate WAS a real documented person.
Granted, that doesn't mean much since Captain America has stories where he meets Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and Barack Obama, and that doesn't make Cap a real person.
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