Current Events > Iran might send warships to Venezuela. Russia sending Venezuela billions in $$$.

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CornBarn
12/08/18 5:22:58 PM
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article222843240.html

An announcement that Iran may deploy new-generation warships to Venezuelan waters is being regarded by analysts as the mother of all provocations because it could alter the regions geopolitical balance and almost certainly disturb the U.S. government.

The arrival of these Iranian ships would upset the regional order, said Rocio San Miguel, president of Control Ciudadano, a non-government organization that monitors Venezuelas armed forces. This is going to bother all 14 countries that have borders with Venezuela and will generate an undesirable situation, she added in a telephone interview from Spain.

Amid the growing tensions between Washington and Tehran, the Iranian government last week launched a destroyer, built in the Islamic country, with stealth properties that allow it to avoid radar detection.

In one of its first official comments on the new Sahand destroyer which can carry helicopters, fire torpedoes and shoot down airplanes Iran said it could deploy two or three of them to Venezuela.

Our plans for the near future include sending two or three ships, with special helicopters, to Venezuela on a South American mission that could last for five months, the deputy commander of the Iranian navy, Rear Admiral Touraj Hassani Moqaddam, was quoted as saying in a Reuters news agency report.

Venezuela has become an important strategic ally of Iran over the past 20 years of Chavista rule, and the two countries have signed economic and military agreements valued in the billions of dollars.

San Miguel said that despite the agreements, none of the joint projects have been successful.

But if the Tehran announcement proves correct, that could prove to be very negative for both countries, warned Martn Rodil, an expert on Iran-Venezuela relations.

This is extremely dangerous. Its crazy to send three warships to the U.S. backyard, Rodil said from Washington D.C. If it happens, the only thing it will do is that Washington will send an aircraft carrier to the Venezuelan coast.


Russia's investment into Venezuela:

https://www.rferl.org/a/venezuela-s-maduro-announces-billions-of-dollars-in-russian-investment/29641832.html

It seems we're seeing the start of a new Axis of Evil.
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__aCEr__
12/08/18 5:24:16 PM
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Keep it in the Venezuela general.
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CornBarn
12/08/18 5:25:22 PM
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I'll keep it where I want to keep it.
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Anti-245
12/08/18 5:26:15 PM
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I'm not sure why two capitalist countries are aiding a supposedly "socialist" one. They probably are sick of us imperialism.
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EliteC
12/08/18 5:26:25 PM
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Wow

This is bad
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spudger
12/08/18 5:27:29 PM
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trump fucking up again
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Lordgold666
12/08/18 5:28:50 PM
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Y i k e s
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Anti-245
12/08/18 5:29:24 PM
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Also, isn't it funny how Iran can't send weapons to a specific location but the U.S. Can without punishment? Amazing.
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Webmaster4531
12/08/18 5:31:42 PM
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U.S. is still technically allies with Russia and Iran.
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slimfizzle2
12/08/18 5:38:03 PM
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CornBarn posted...
I'll keep it where I want to keep it.

Uncle Frank told me that so many times
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CornBarn
12/08/18 5:51:58 PM
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slimfizzle2 posted...
CornBarn posted...
I'll keep it where I want to keep it.

Uncle Frank told me that so many times


I hereby bestow upon Uncle Frank the noble title of Corn Champion.
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Anti-245
12/08/18 5:54:15 PM
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CornBarn posted...
slimfizzle2 posted...
CornBarn posted...
I'll keep it where I want to keep it.

Uncle Frank told me that so many times


I hereby bestow upon Uncle Frank the noble title of Corn Champion.

You're joking but this could very well escalate tensions between Iran and Russia and China will get involved as well.
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mustachedmystic
12/08/18 5:59:01 PM
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Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.
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Anti-245
12/08/18 6:02:17 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.

The irony in this is just stunning. Lol
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PresidentZaphod
12/08/18 6:04:02 PM
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What the Hell does this have to do with the US?
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HylianFox
12/08/18 6:04:06 PM
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does Iran even have warships? they don't strike me as being a naval power
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mustachedmystic
12/08/18 6:04:37 PM
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Anti-245 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.

The irony in this is just stunning. Lol


I hear what you're saying, but the United States can waste billions(actually trillions) and still come out on top, can Russia?
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MakoReizei
12/08/18 6:05:49 PM
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Iran has a navy?
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mustachedmystic
12/08/18 6:08:24 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
Iran has a navy?


They have one. Mostly green water though.
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Uncle Choad
12/08/18 6:09:17 PM
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More garbage countries doing garbage things.

Imagine liking any one of these nations.
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Bio1590
12/08/18 6:10:33 PM
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Proudclad why do you have such a weird obsession with Venezuela
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Nikra
12/08/18 6:11:32 PM
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Fake news. Yet again.
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Coastal_elite
12/08/18 6:11:54 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Proudclad why do you have such a weird obsession with Venezuela


They're 3 of the things he haaaates the most: brown, socialist and they can get laid
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Webmaster4531
12/08/18 6:12:48 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Anti-245 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.

The irony in this is just stunning. Lol


I hear what you're saying, but the United States can waste billions(actually trillions) and still come out on top, can Russia?

I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.
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Zikten
12/08/18 6:13:57 PM
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what? Iran has a navy?

oh well, let's go sink it
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Webmaster4531
12/08/18 6:15:04 PM
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Zikten posted...
what? Iran has a navy?

oh well, let's go sink it

Webmaster4531 posted...
U.S. is still technically allies with Russia and Iran.

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Zikten
12/08/18 6:16:56 PM
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why are we always fueding with Iran and talking about war if we are allied to them? wtf and we shouldn't be allied to such a nation

screw it. I say sink it still
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mustachedmystic
12/08/18 6:18:29 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.


That's fine and dandy, like cotton candy. Seriously, that's awesome(if it pans out, I hope it does). But I'm talking about how the USSR fell, and I'm 99% sure you know this. But, if Russia wants to get into another cold war with the US, let them go at it, It'll be no different than last time.
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Zikten
12/08/18 6:20:17 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.


That's fine and dandy, like cotton candy. Seriously, that's awesome(if it pans out, I hope it does). But I'm talking about how the USSR fell, and I'm 99% sure you know this. But, if Russia wants to get into another cold war with the US, let them go at it, It'll be no different than last time.

in fact we are in a better position now than they are. they lost a lot of land since the cold war. we still have most or all of our old allies from that time. Cold War 2 would heavily favor us
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mustachedmystic
12/08/18 6:22:09 PM
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Zikten posted...
in fact we are in a better position now than they are. they lost a lot of land since the cold war. we still have most or all of our old allies from that time. Cold War 2 would heavily favor us


Exactly, Putin must be insane to think getting down and dirty with the west again will end in anything other than disaster for them.
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Hexenherz
12/08/18 6:22:19 PM
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I mean we're basically already in a cold war with Russia. Our relations have been bottoming out since at least 2008.
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MakoReizei
12/08/18 6:25:00 PM
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Zikten posted...
why are we always fueding with Iran and talking about war if we are allied to them? wtf and we shouldn't be allied to such a nation

screw it. I say sink it still

They also want to literally nuke Israel. That's why they shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons
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Anti-245
12/08/18 6:27:51 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Anti-245 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.

The irony in this is just stunning. Lol


I hear what you're saying, but the United States can waste billions(actually trillions) and still come out on top, can Russia?

On top with the worst healthcare system in the global north, wages having stagnated, life expectancy down for the third year, people running to other countries for healthcare and education, student debt about to burst, homelessness increasing, mass shootings everyday... You call this the top? Sure it has military might but that only goes so far.
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PresidentZaphod
12/08/18 6:33:52 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.


That's fine and dandy, like cotton candy. Seriously, that's awesome(if it pans out, I hope it does). But I'm talking about how the USSR fell, and I'm 99% sure you know this. But, if Russia wants to get into another cold war with the US, let them go at it, It'll be no different than last time.


The Cold War was about communism, not Russia. China is our main adversary now
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Tmaster148
12/08/18 6:35:45 PM
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Good for them.
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Anti-245
12/08/18 6:36:38 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.


That's fine and dandy, like cotton candy. Seriously, that's awesome(if it pans out, I hope it does). But I'm talking about how the USSR fell, and I'm 99% sure you know this. But, if Russia wants to get into another cold war with the US, let them go at it, It'll be no different than last time.

The American empire is cracking and will fall in the future so I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.
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Anti-245
12/08/18 6:38:33 PM
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PresidentZaphod posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.


That's fine and dandy, like cotton candy. Seriously, that's awesome(if it pans out, I hope it does). But I'm talking about how the USSR fell, and I'm 99% sure you know this. But, if Russia wants to get into another cold war with the US, let them go at it, It'll be no different than last time.


The Cold War was about communism, not Russia. China is our main adversary now

That's the proaganda they push. It was really about us imperial power. It's why the U.S. squashed countries that weren't even socialist to get an upper hand.
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Anti-245
12/08/18 6:40:58 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Anti-245 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.

The irony in this is just stunning. Lol


I hear what you're saying, but the United States can waste billions(actually trillions) and still come out on top, can Russia?

I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba.

Seems like Russia was pretty successful.

It's incredible how Russia rebounded after Yeltsin destroyed their economy in the 90s with American support.
And Cuba does have the best doctors in Latin America so much that Americans are willing to break their own laws to go there for treatment.
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Hexenherz
12/08/18 6:43:04 PM
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Russia didn't really rebound that well, they are just sitting on a jackpot of natural resources that they barely know what to do with besides "collect and sell".
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Anti-245
12/08/18 6:45:22 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Russia didn't really rebound that well, they are just sitting on a jackpot of natural resources that they barely know what to do with besides "collect and sell".

That's because the oligarchs control their economy. It's better than what happened under Yeltsin though.
Funny, oligarchs gained more control in the U.S. and now the Americans are feeling the same heat they put on another group of people.
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