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CornBarn 12/08/18 5:22:58 PM #1: |
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article222843240.html
An announcement that Iran may deploy new-generation warships to Venezuelan waters is being regarded by analysts as the mother of all provocations because it could alter the regions geopolitical balance and almost certainly disturb the U.S. government. The arrival of these Iranian ships would upset the regional order, said Rocio San Miguel, president of Control Ciudadano, a non-government organization that monitors Venezuelas armed forces. This is going to bother all 14 countries that have borders with Venezuela and will generate an undesirable situation, she added in a telephone interview from Spain. Amid the growing tensions between Washington and Tehran, the Iranian government last week launched a destroyer, built in the Islamic country, with stealth properties that allow it to avoid radar detection. In one of its first official comments on the new Sahand destroyer which can carry helicopters, fire torpedoes and shoot down airplanes Iran said it could deploy two or three of them to Venezuela. Our plans for the near future include sending two or three ships, with special helicopters, to Venezuela on a South American mission that could last for five months, the deputy commander of the Iranian navy, Rear Admiral Touraj Hassani Moqaddam, was quoted as saying in a Reuters news agency report. Venezuela has become an important strategic ally of Iran over the past 20 years of Chavista rule, and the two countries have signed economic and military agreements valued in the billions of dollars. San Miguel said that despite the agreements, none of the joint projects have been successful. But if the Tehran announcement proves correct, that could prove to be very negative for both countries, warned Martn Rodil, an expert on Iran-Venezuela relations. This is extremely dangerous. Its crazy to send three warships to the U.S. backyard, Rodil said from Washington D.C. If it happens, the only thing it will do is that Washington will send an aircraft carrier to the Venezuelan coast. Russia's investment into Venezuela: https://www.rferl.org/a/venezuela-s-maduro-announces-billions-of-dollars-in-russian-investment/29641832.html It seems we're seeing the start of a new Axis of Evil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__aCEr__ 12/08/18 5:24:16 PM #2: |
Keep it in the Venezuela general.
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CornBarn 12/08/18 5:25:22 PM #3: |
I'll keep it where I want to keep it.
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Anti-245 12/08/18 5:26:15 PM #4: |
I'm not sure why two capitalist countries are aiding a supposedly "socialist" one. They probably are sick of us imperialism.
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EliteC 12/08/18 5:26:25 PM #5: |
Wow
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spudger 12/08/18 5:27:29 PM #6: |
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Lordgold666 12/08/18 5:28:50 PM #7: |
Y i k e s
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Anti-245 12/08/18 5:29:24 PM #8: |
Also, isn't it funny how Iran can't send weapons to a specific location but the U.S. Can without punishment? Amazing.
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Webmaster4531 12/08/18 5:31:42 PM #9: |
U.S. is still technically allies with Russia and Iran.
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slimfizzle2 12/08/18 5:38:03 PM #10: |
CornBarn posted...
I'll keep it where I want to keep it. Uncle Frank told me that so many times --- Solomon Grundy wants Pants Too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CornBarn 12/08/18 5:51:58 PM #11: |
slimfizzle2 posted...
CornBarn posted...I'll keep it where I want to keep it. I hereby bestow upon Uncle Frank the noble title of Corn Champion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anti-245 12/08/18 5:54:15 PM #12: |
CornBarn posted...
slimfizzle2 posted...CornBarn posted...I'll keep it where I want to keep it. You're joking but this could very well escalate tensions between Iran and Russia and China will get involved as well. --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 12/08/18 5:59:01 PM #13: |
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time.
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Anti-245 12/08/18 6:02:17 PM #14: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time. The irony in this is just stunning. Lol --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PresidentZaphod 12/08/18 6:04:02 PM #15: |
What the Hell does this have to do with the US?
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HylianFox 12/08/18 6:04:06 PM #16: |
does Iran even have warships? they don't strike me as being a naval power
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mustachedmystic 12/08/18 6:04:37 PM #17: |
Anti-245 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time. I hear what you're saying, but the United States can waste billions(actually trillions) and still come out on top, can Russia? --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MakoReizei 12/08/18 6:05:49 PM #18: |
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mustachedmystic 12/08/18 6:08:24 PM #19: |
MakoReizei posted...
Iran has a navy? They have one. Mostly green water though. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Uncle Choad 12/08/18 6:09:17 PM #20: |
More garbage countries doing garbage things.
Imagine liking any one of these nations. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 12/08/18 6:10:33 PM #21: |
Proudclad why do you have such a weird obsession with Venezuela
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Nikra 12/08/18 6:11:32 PM #22: |
Fake news. Yet again.
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Coastal_elite 12/08/18 6:11:54 PM #23: |
Bio1590 posted...
Proudclad why do you have such a weird obsession with Venezuela They're 3 of the things he haaaates the most: brown, socialist and they can get laid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 12/08/18 6:12:48 PM #24: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Anti-245 posted...mustachedmystic posted...Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time. I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba. Seems like Russia was pretty successful. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 12/08/18 6:13:57 PM #25: |
what? Iran has a navy?
oh well, let's go sink it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 12/08/18 6:15:04 PM #26: |
Zikten posted...
what? Iran has a navy? Webmaster4531 posted... U.S. is still technically allies with Russia and Iran. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 12/08/18 6:16:56 PM #27: |
why are we always fueding with Iran and talking about war if we are allied to them? wtf and we shouldn't be allied to such a nation
screw it. I say sink it still ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 12/08/18 6:18:29 PM #28: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba. That's fine and dandy, like cotton candy. Seriously, that's awesome(if it pans out, I hope it does). But I'm talking about how the USSR fell, and I'm 99% sure you know this. But, if Russia wants to get into another cold war with the US, let them go at it, It'll be no different than last time. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 12/08/18 6:20:17 PM #29: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba. in fact we are in a better position now than they are. they lost a lot of land since the cold war. we still have most or all of our old allies from that time. Cold War 2 would heavily favor us ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 12/08/18 6:22:09 PM #30: |
Zikten posted...
in fact we are in a better position now than they are. they lost a lot of land since the cold war. we still have most or all of our old allies from that time. Cold War 2 would heavily favor us Exactly, Putin must be insane to think getting down and dirty with the west again will end in anything other than disaster for them. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 12/08/18 6:22:19 PM #31: |
I mean we're basically already in a cold war with Russia. Our relations have been bottoming out since at least 2008.
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MakoReizei 12/08/18 6:25:00 PM #32: |
Zikten posted...
why are we always fueding with Iran and talking about war if we are allied to them? wtf and we shouldn't be allied to such a nation They also want to literally nuke Israel. That's why they shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anti-245 12/08/18 6:27:51 PM #33: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Anti-245 posted...mustachedmystic posted...Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time. On top with the worst healthcare system in the global north, wages having stagnated, life expectancy down for the third year, people running to other countries for healthcare and education, student debt about to burst, homelessness increasing, mass shootings everyday... You call this the top? Sure it has military might but that only goes so far. --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PresidentZaphod 12/08/18 6:33:52 PM #34: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba. The Cold War was about communism, not Russia. China is our main adversary now --- Two heads are better than one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/08/18 6:35:45 PM #35: |
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Anti-245 12/08/18 6:36:38 PM #36: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba. The American empire is cracking and will fall in the future so I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anti-245 12/08/18 6:38:33 PM #37: |
PresidentZaphod posted...
mustachedmystic posted...Webmaster4531 posted...I googled "Are Cubans Happy?" because I've heard of a lung cancer vaccine developed in Cuba. That's the proaganda they push. It was really about us imperial power. It's why the U.S. squashed countries that weren't even socialist to get an upper hand. --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anti-245 12/08/18 6:40:58 PM #38: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
mustachedmystic posted...Anti-245 posted...mustachedmystic posted...Waste billions supporting a country on the other side of the world, just to show up America? Why the hell not? It worked so well for you last time. It's incredible how Russia rebounded after Yeltsin destroyed their economy in the 90s with American support. And Cuba does have the best doctors in Latin America so much that Americans are willing to break their own laws to go there for treatment. --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 12/08/18 6:43:04 PM #39: |
Russia didn't really rebound that well, they are just sitting on a jackpot of natural resources that they barely know what to do with besides "collect and sell".
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Anti-245 12/08/18 6:45:22 PM #40: |
Hexenherz posted...
Russia didn't really rebound that well, they are just sitting on a jackpot of natural resources that they barely know what to do with besides "collect and sell". That's because the oligarchs control their economy. It's better than what happened under Yeltsin though. Funny, oligarchs gained more control in the U.S. and now the Americans are feeling the same heat they put on another group of people. --- Life in the DoB. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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