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sobergermanguy 12/03/18 12:26:51 PM #1:	Since Cloud is going to steamroll the character battle I mean, it's always been the most overrated FF. But it's unplayable in 2018 imo --- You choc-blocked me, bro <cite>sobergermanguy posted [p:913469032] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>Since Cloud is going to steamroll the character battle I mean, it's always been the most overrated FF. But it's unplayable in 2018 imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/03/18 12:27:48 PM #2:	It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:913469077] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Milkman5 12/03/18 12:28:17 PM #4:	I tried to play the game when it came out on PS3 and it was really boring. I stopped pretty early on. Same thing with Xenogears. The gameplay for a lot of PS1 Square games were so boring. Literally just selecting the same attack over and over and over and over in a menu. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:913469097] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>I tried to play the game when it came out on PS3 and it was really boring. I stopped pretty early on. Same thing with Xenogears. The gameplay for a lot of PS1 Square games were so boring. Literally just selecting the same attack over and over and over and over in a menu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 12/03/18 12:29:28 PM #5:	sobergermanguy posted... I mean, it's always been the most overrated FF. Thats FF6. Its aged fine btw, and Im saying this as someone who didnt play FF7 until 2012 --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:913469144] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, it's always been the most overrated FF.</quote> Thats FF6. Its aged fine btw, and Im saying this as someone who didnt play FF7 until 2012</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gafemage 12/03/18 12:31:31 PM #7:	Conflict posted... Gafemage posted... sobergermanguy posted... I mean, it's always been the most overrated FF. Thats FF6. Its aged fine btw, and Im saying this as someone who didnt play FF7 until 2012 FF7 is definitely more overrated than 6 FF6 is more universally liked since FF7 has so many detractors, and imo FF6 is also a worse game. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:913469241] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sobergermanguy posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, it's always been the most overrated FF.</quote> Thats FF6. Its aged fine btw, and Im saying this as someone who didnt play FF7 until 2012</quote> FF7 is definitely more overrated than 6</quote> FF6 is more universally liked since FF7 has so many detractors, and imo FF6 is also a worse game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 12/03/18 12:32:41 PM #8:	I loved Chrono Trigger so it's not like I don't like traditional RPGs Just something about the gameplay in trigger made it so much more fun than FF7 and Xenogears <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:913469290] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>I loved Chrono Trigger so it's not like I don't like traditional RPGs Just something about the gameplay in trigger made it so much more fun than FF7 and Xenogears</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HenryAllbright 12/03/18 12:33:53 PM #10:	MC_BatCommander posted... It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well. This....because you got to use your imagination as if you were reading a comic book or an interactive novel or something. It was more artistic. As the FF games got more realistic graphics and voice acting, they lost all their magic. Everything got all cringe-worthy. So many JRPG fans thinking "THIS is what the developer have decided to do with all these technological advancements? Why?' --- All points of view and perspectives exist for a reason. There is no such thing as evil. <cite>HenryAllbright posted [p:913469337] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well.</quote> This....because you got to use your imagination as if you were reading a comic book or an interactive novel or something. It was more artistic. As the FF games got more realistic graphics and voice acting, they lost all their magic. Everything got all cringe-worthy. So many JRPG fans thinking "THIS is what the developer have decided to do with all these technological advancements? Why?'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 12/03/18 12:35:21 PM #11:	It aged just fine. I think its stupid how Square plans to improve the remake by implementing the combat systems of the newer games. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Magic the Gathering: Arena <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:913469408] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>It aged just fine. I think its stupid how Square plans to improve the remake by implementing the combat systems of the newer games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 12/03/18 12:36:05 PM #12:	the jrpg genre in general aged very poorly imo --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:913469445] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>the jrpg genre in general aged very poorly imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright 12/03/18 12:36:28 PM #13:	Milkman5 posted... Literally just selecting the same attack over and over and over and over in a menu. This is exactly what modern day JRPGS lack. They try to be all special with their battle system, but they just wind up being needlessly tedious. As a result, battles have too much shit going on in them...numbers flying around everywhere, characters doing multiple attacks at the same time. It's just unnecessarily cluttered. --- All points of view and perspectives exist for a reason. There is no such thing as evil. <cite>HenryAllbright posted [p:913469460] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Milkman5 posted...</cite> <quote>Literally just selecting the same attack over and over and over and over in a menu.</quote> This is exactly what modern day JRPGS lack. They try to be all special with their battle system, but they just wind up being needlessly tedious. As a result, battles have too much shit going on in them...numbers flying around everywhere, characters doing multiple attacks at the same time. It's just unnecessarily cluttered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PostCrisisJ2 12/03/18 12:38:02 PM #14:	the graphics aged like milk, but the game itself is still fine --- RIP Stephen Hawking 1942-2018 <cite>PostCrisisJ2 posted [p:913469530] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>the graphics aged like milk, but the game itself is still fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 12/03/18 12:38:13 PM #15:	HenryAllbright posted... MC_BatCommander posted... It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well. This....because you got to use your imagination as if you were reading a comic book or an interactive novel or something. It was more artistic. As the FF games got more realistic graphics and voice acting, they lost all their magic. Everything got all cringe-worthy. So many JRPG fans thinking "THIS is what the developer have decided to do with all these technological advancements? Why?' You know, I had this same thought the other day. Not to say ALL new games are "bad", because they're not, but I had this thought. It seems like back then, when developers had to go the extra mile to make up for the lack of graphics...things...were better. I agree. There was a magic there. You nailed it. It's imagination. --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:913469545] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>HenryAllbright posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well.</quote> This....because you got to use your imagination as if you were reading a comic book or an interactive novel or something. It was more artistic. As the FF games got more realistic graphics and voice acting, they lost all their magic. Everything got all cringe-worthy. So many JRPG fans thinking "THIS is what the developer have decided to do with all these technological advancements? Why?'</quote> You know, I had this same thought the other day. Not to say ALL new games are "bad", because they're not, but I had this thought. It seems like back then, when developers had to go the extra mile to make up for the lack of graphics...things...were better. I agree. There was a magic there. You nailed it. It's imagination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 12/03/18 12:38:39 PM #16:	HenryAllbright posted... This is exactly what modern day JRPGS lack. They try to be all special with their battle system, but they just wind up being needlessly tedious. As a result, battles have too much shit going on in them...numbers flying around everywhere, characters doing multiple attacks at the same time. It's just unnecessarily cluttered. I didn't like Bravely Default very much for spoiler reason, but that game has simple rpg gameplay that isn't completely mindless <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:913469564] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>HenryAllbright posted...</cite> <quote>This is exactly what modern day JRPGS lack. They try to be all special with their battle system, but they just wind up being needlessly tedious. As a result, battles have too much shit going on in them...numbers flying around everywhere, characters doing multiple attacks at the same time. It's just unnecessarily cluttered.</quote> I didn't like Bravely Default very much for spoiler reason, but that game has simple rpg gameplay that isn't completely mindless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 12/03/18 12:42:18 PM #17:	I mean, no part of it was ever as great as people gave it credit for. Story, characters, and gameplay all had some notable problems. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:913469750] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>I mean, no part of it was ever as great as people gave it credit for. Story, characters, and gameplay all had some notable problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright 12/03/18 12:43:21 PM #18:	Caution999 posted... HenryAllbright posted... MC_BatCommander posted... It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well. This....because you got to use your imagination as if you were reading a comic book or an interactive novel or something. It was more artistic. As the FF games got more realistic graphics and voice acting, they lost all their magic. Everything got all cringe-worthy. So many JRPG fans thinking "THIS is what the developer have decided to do with all these technological advancements? Why?' You know, I had this same thought the other day. Not to say ALL new games are "bad", because they're not, but I had this thought. It seems like back then, when developers had to go the extra mile to make up for the lack of graphics...things...were better. I agree. There was a magic there. You nailed it. It's imagination. Yup. We got to think in our minds how the characters talked and what all the battle actions and scenes were representing. We listened to a soundtrack and read text. We looked at beautiful backgrounds and cool-looking character models. It was a great experience. Now, all the stuff that we used our imaginations to fill in the gaps have been replaced by some serious cringe-worthy bullshit. It's like that's what the developers had in mind back in the 1990s, but they didn't realize that their actual audience had something much better in their minds when they were filling in those gaps. There's been a massive disconnect. --- All points of view and perspectives exist for a reason. There is no such thing as evil. <cite>HenryAllbright posted [p:913469805] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HenryAllbright posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>It aged just fine, all the Square games that used the pre-rendered backgrounds aged pretty dang well.</quote> This....because you got to use your imagination as if you were reading a comic book or an interactive novel or something. It was more artistic. As the FF games got more realistic graphics and voice acting, they lost all their magic. Everything got all cringe-worthy. So many JRPG fans thinking "THIS is what the developer have decided to do with all these technological advancements? Why?'</quote> You know, I had this same thought the other day. Not to say ALL new games are "bad", because they're not, but I had this thought. It seems like back then, when developers had to go the extra mile to make up for the lack of graphics...things...were better. I agree. There was a magic there. You nailed it. It's imagination.</quote> Yup. We got to think in our minds how the characters talked and what all the battle actions and scenes were representing. We listened to a soundtrack and read text. We looked at beautiful backgrounds and cool-looking character models. It was a great experience. Now, all the stuff that we used our imaginations to fill in the gaps have been replaced by some serious cringe-worthy bullshit. It's like that's what the developers had in mind back in the 1990s, but they didn't realize that their actual audience had something much better in their minds when they were filling in those gaps. There's been a massive disconnect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/03/18 12:58:14 PM #19:	That is like the difference betweem a novel and a movie adaptation. Novels have bad graphics causwe they have no graphics. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:913470586] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>That is like the difference betweem a novel and a movie adaptation. Novels have bad graphics causwe they have no graphics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 12/03/18 1:10:30 PM #20:	Just the overworld character models. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:913471190] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>Just the overworld character models.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OldSnakeLiveon8 12/03/18 1:12:15 PM #21:	FF9 is better <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted [p:913471291] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>FF9 is better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sobergermanguy 12/03/18 1:27:28 PM #22:	OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... FF9 is better Is that the one with the monkey kid --- You choc-blocked me, bro <cite>sobergermanguy posted [p:913472155] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>FF9 is better</quote> Is that the one with the monkey kid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/03/18 1:28:12 PM #23:	A good time to say it was when FF8 came out --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:913472197] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>A good time to say it was when FF8 came out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 12/03/18 1:29:47 PM #24:	Lego block graphics certainly haven't aged well, but it's far from being unplayable OldSnakeLiveon8 posted... FF9 is better My man. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:913472278] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>Lego block graphics certainly haven't aged well, but it's far from being unplayable <cite>OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...</cite> <quote>FF9 is better</quote> My man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/03/18 1:29:54 PM #25:	I still don't understand why nobody thought to go redo the early 'legoman' cutscenes around the end of development. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:913472289] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why nobody thought to go redo the early 'legoman' cutscenes around the end of development.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 12/03/18 1:31:44 PM #26:	I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913472401] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 12/03/18 1:32:37 PM #27:	If you honestly think Cloud is gonna steamroll the finals then lol. Link is gonna win yet again. How long have you been on this site? The last time Cloud won was over 10 years ago. Link wins every time there isn't some meme vote or 4chan or tumblr or whatever brigading a character. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:913472444] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>If you honestly think Cloud is gonna steamroll the finals then lol. Link is gonna win yet again. How long have you been on this site? The last time Cloud won was over 10 years ago. Link wins every time there isn't some meme vote or 4chan or tumblr or whatever brigading a character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 12/03/18 1:33:05 PM #28:	P4wn4g3 posted... I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono. FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:913472468] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono.</quote> FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 12/03/18 1:34:41 PM #29:	Questionmarktarius posted... I still don't understand why nobody thought to go redo the early 'legoman' cutscenes around the end of development. I think all the FMVs were outsourced IIRC --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:913472552] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why nobody thought to go redo the early 'legoman' cutscenes around the end of development.</quote> I think all the FMVs were outsourced IIRC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 12/03/18 1:38:24 PM #30:	LordFarquad1312 posted... P4wn4g3 posted... I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono. FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character. Yeah but this is GameFAQs. Crono is more popular here. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913472765] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono.</quote> FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character.</quote> Yeah but this is GameFAQs. Crono is more popular here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright 12/03/18 1:39:36 PM #31:	Some of the cutscenes were transitioned to from the actual gameplay, so that's why some of the cutscenes still have the blocky characters in them. --- All points of view and perspectives exist for a reason. There is no such thing as evil. <cite>HenryAllbright posted [p:913472823] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>Some of the cutscenes were transitioned to from the actual gameplay, so that's why some of the cutscenes still have the blocky characters in them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/03/18 1:40:54 PM #32:	P4wn4g3 posted... LordFarquad1312 posted... P4wn4g3 posted... I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono. FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character. Yeah but this is GameFAQs. Crono is more popular here. Clearly he isn't --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:913472909] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono.</quote> FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character.</quote> Yeah but this is GameFAQs. Crono is more popular here.</quote> Clearly he isn't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 12/03/18 2:51:04 PM #33:	MC_BatCommander posted... P4wn4g3 posted... LordFarquad1312 posted... P4wn4g3 posted... I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono. FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character. Yeah but this is GameFAQs. Crono is more popular here. Clearly he isn't Yeah Idk what's going on --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:913476732] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordFarquad1312 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get why Cloud is beating Crono.</quote> FF7 is more popular, and whatever issues you may have with him, at least Cloud is an actual character.</quote> Yeah but this is GameFAQs. Crono is more popular here.</quote> Clearly he isn't</quote> Yeah Idk what's going on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 12/03/18 2:54:37 PM #34:	I voted for Crono because I liked his image better. If that was the regular Cloud, I would've voted for him probably. --- The best posts, believe me. <cite>Caution999 posted [p:913476917] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>I voted for Crono because I liked his image better. If that was the regular Cloud, I would've voted for him probably.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 12/03/18 2:56:44 PM #35:	The battle system is definitely more simple and boring in those old FF's. The fun in FF7 and FF8 is just doing grinding and prep outside of battle so you can magnificently steamroll the game. Or you can do the complete opposite and try to stay extremely low level/resources to extend the challenge. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:913477042] in This feels... [t:77264316]...</cite> <quote>The battle system is definitely more simple and boring in those old FF's. The fun in FF7 and FF8 is just doing grinding and prep outside of battle so you can magnificently steamroll the game. Or you can do the complete opposite and try to stay extremely low level/resources to extend the challenge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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