Current Events > Chick-fil-A: "Please don't call us anti-gay"

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Them sticking by the founder's stupidity and their continued donations to backwards organizations. It isn't unfair for people to criticize that and possibly stay away. I won't, but I get it if people do.
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Funbazooka posted...

ZannoL posted...

Chick-Fil-A is honestly overrated trash.

Nope. There's a reason people flock to their chicken in droves.

McD's make more in sales then Chick-Fil-A . Using this logic McDs is better .
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powerman1426 posted...

berlyman101 posted...

I like the place for the same reasons everyone else does. They do some good things, too.

The flak is deserved, though.

I know there was a big thing a while back but what have they done? Donate to religious groups? They aren't open Sundays due to religious beliefs, I guess, so donating to religious causes seems not out of expected. Do they discriminate against people or what? Honest question, not trolling

They donate money to anti-gay groups. They said they would stop, but then they made a later statement that vaguely rescinded their promise, and then we found out they were still actually making anti-gay donations after all.

https://thinkprogress.org/chick-fil-a-still-anti-gay-970f079bf85/

And yeah, the Salvation Army (which is a Protestant Church btw) is an awful charitable organization and doesn't deserve people's attention when there are so many charities (including churches) that don't deservedy have a fully multifaceted "controversies" section on their wikipedia article.

I'm not saying anybody should feel bad if they choose to eat at Chick fil a. Just that Chick Fil A is run by morons and they don't get to whine about being called anti-gay when it's clearly deserved.
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Chick-Fil-A the gay away
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cjsdowg posted...

Funbazooka posted...

ZannoL posted...

Chick-Fil-A is honestly overrated trash.

Nope. There's a reason people flock to their chicken in droves.

McD's make more in sales then Chick-Fil-A . Using this logic McDs is better .

CFA makes far more per store than any other fast food place
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They need to just open outside of colleges.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

The intolorent left.

Liberalism does not suffer tolerance of intolerance.

Get a new cute saying you hack.
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cjsdowg posted...

Funbazooka posted...

ZannoL posted...

Chick-Fil-A is honestly overrated trash.

Nope. There's a reason people flock to their chicken in droves.

McD's make more in sales then Chick-Fil-A . Using this logic McDs is better .

Theres also far more McDs than CFA, lol

Anyway, my campus had a CFA and it was so good! One of the few good places within campus to eat out.
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Have you guys ever heard of Fellowship of Christian Athletes? There's not really any agenda, anti-gay or otherwise, discussed at all. It's mostly just high school athletes bsing and getting a dinner honoring their accomplishments once a year. And as far as I could tell, everyone was invited because there were definitely gay kids there with us.
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I'll still got there.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Good food and great service. If only they could get rid of that religious bullshit like closing on Sundays and having anti-gay execs.

Closing on Sunday is kinda good for the employees.

A guaranteed day off and on a coveted day off like Sunday that is always mega busy for most restaurants
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we all need to get off our windows machines once we find out what BG did with his money.....
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bump

I actively boycott chick fil a. I refuse to eat anywhere that isn't in an area where I currently am at any given time and I've never lived or travelled to a place that had a nearby location that I know of.
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I've only ever gone to their place once in Virginia when I was traveling back from SC, and I honestly don't get what all the hype is for their food. I mean, it was "okay" by fast food standards, but really didn't seem to deserve the heaps of praise it gets. Like, the sandwiches which everyone loses their mind over aren't really any different than shit you can find elsewhere, and their waffle fries aren't anything special. I'd take Popeye's over them any day of the week. Maybe would stop more if there was one closer to me, but the closest is over an hour from my house, and I'm not going that far for any fast food.
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Calling Chick-fil-a anti-gay is such a stretch.

Along with the very questionable sources of products you use every day, do you really think that there aren't progressive organizations which get corporate donations that have morally questionable policies?

Chick-fil-a will serve all people regardless of sexual orientation and don't discriminate in hiring employees either. What more do you want?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Calling Chick-fil-a anti-gay is such a stretch.

Along with the very questionable sources of products you use every day, do you really think that there aren't progressive organizations which get corporate donations that have morally questionable policies?

Chick-fil-a will serve all people regardless of sexual orientation and don't discriminate in hiring employees either. What more do you want?

Why are you equating where money is coming from with where it's going?

If the red cross gets money from Goldman Sachs that's still better than it going to PETA or not to charity at all.
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PETA is a great example.

https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/21-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals/

Companies that have donated to PETA:

Bank of America Foundation
Comedy Central Network
ExxonMobil Corporation
Fannie Mae Foundation
GAP Foundation
GEICO Philanthropic Foundation
Levi Strauss Foundation
New York Times Company Foundation
Pfizer Foundation
Verizon Foundation

The list is not at all up to date, but none of these companies should have ever donate to PETA. I'm not going to stop using any of them because of it, though.
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If They were donating to pro Palestinian groups, I wonder if the same people defending them would still eat their food...
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FrisbeeDude posted...

If They were donating to pro Palestinian groups, I wonder if the same people defending them would still eat their food...

This is not a good argument. Would you stop using a company if you found out they donated to a pro-Israeli group? I would hope not.

You're just pointing out how dumb the anti- Chickfila movement is.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If They were donating to pro Palestinian groups, I wonder if the same people defending them would still eat their food...

This is not a good argument. Would you stop using a company if you found out they donated to a pro-Israeli group? I would hope not.

You're just pointing out how dumb the anti- Chickfila movement is.

make it pro Muslim groups then
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If They were donating to pro Palestinian groups, I wonder if the same people defending them would still eat their food...

This is not a good argument. Would you stop using a company if you found out they donated to a pro-Israeli group? I would hope not.

You're just pointing out how dumb the anti- Chickfila movement is.

make it pro Muslim groups then

Same response but make pro-Israeli pro-Christian
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Good, their food is overrated anyways
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Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If They were donating to pro Palestinian groups, I wonder if the same people defending them would still eat their food...

This is not a good argument. Would you stop using a company if you found out they donated to a pro-Israeli group? I would hope not.

You're just pointing out how dumb the anti- Chickfila movement is.

make it pro Muslim groups then

Same response but make pro-Israeli pro-Christian

If those Muslim groups held anti american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Muslims could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?
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People WANT it to be a problem in "other markets" but the truth is people fill up the entire parking lot and 2 blocks down the road waiting in line at chick fil a every day even in massively liberal states
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ZannoL posted...

Chick-Fil-A is honestly overrated trash.

Theyre okay but I mostly use them for chicken nuggets.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Like, the sandwiches which everyone loses their mind over aren't really any different than s*** you can find elsewhere

I've been saying exactly this for years, and people flip their shit when they hear it and react like it's some blatantly obvious and malicious lie.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

If those Muslim groups held anti american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Muslims could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

If those Christian groups held pro american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Christians could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

Yes, it would.
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codey posted...

Have you guys ever heard of Fellowship of Christian Athletes? There's not really any agenda, anti-gay or otherwise, discussed at all. It's mostly just high school athletes bsing and getting a dinner honoring their accomplishments once a year. And as far as I could tell, everyone was invited because there were definitely gay kids there with us.

Ive been trying to say this all topic but no one wants to address it. They see a group with the word Christian in it and immediately call it anti gay. It is what it is.
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Wetterdew posted...

The religious organization, which seeks to utilize athletes and coaches to spread Christian teachings, imparts a strongly anti-LGBTQ message. Staff and volunteers with the organization have been required to adhere to a strict sexual purity policy, prohibiting any homosexual acts, even for married couples. The group takes the view that, The Bible is clear in teaching on sexual sin including sex outside of marriage and homosexual acts. Neither heterosexual sex outside of marriage nor any homosexual act constitute an alternative lifestyle acceptable to God.

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Webmaster4531 posted...

Wetterdew posted...

The religious organization, which seeks to utilize athletes and coaches to spread Christian teachings, imparts a strongly anti-LGBTQ message. Staff and volunteers with the organization have been required to adhere to a strict sexual purity policy, prohibiting any homosexual acts, even for married couples. The group takes the view that, The Bible is clear in teaching on sexual sin including sex outside of marriage and homosexual acts. Neither heterosexual sex outside of marriage nor any homosexual act constitute an alternative lifestyle acceptable to God.

So have you ever been to a meeting? Or are you just gonna take some blog writer's word for it
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WaterLink posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Wetterdew posted...

The religious organization, which seeks to utilize athletes and coaches to spread Christian teachings, imparts a strongly anti-LGBTQ message. Staff and volunteers with the organization have been required to adhere to a strict sexual purity policy, prohibiting any homosexual acts, even for married couples. The group takes the view that, The Bible is clear in teaching on sexual sin including sex outside of marriage and homosexual acts. Neither heterosexual sex outside of marriage nor any homosexual act constitute an alternative lifestyle acceptable to God.

So have you ever been to a meeting? Or are you just gonna take some blog writer's word for it

It's in the leadership application.

http://fcaaustin.org/Websites/fcaaustin/files/Content/1538783/FCA_Student_Leader_Application.pdf
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Wetterdew posted...

The religious organization, which seeks to utilize athletes and coaches to spread Christian teachings, imparts a strongly anti-LGBTQ message. Staff and volunteers with the organization have been required to adhere to a strict sexual purity policy, prohibiting any homosexual acts, even for married couples. The group takes the view that, The Bible is clear in teaching on sexual sin including sex outside of marriage and homosexual acts. Neither heterosexual sex outside of marriage nor any homosexual act constitute an alternative lifestyle acceptable to God.

I'm not Christian at all, and I still went to the banquet dinners. There was a prayer before eating, but there was never any preaching or anything. It was literally just them calling up athletes (of various religions) to hand them awards for their accomplishments on the field and court, then we ate BBQ.

The people running it are probably staunch Christians, which is why they would name their organization that, but they didn't preach their values to anyone there. If they did, I wouldn't be defending them.
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Food is damn good

Webmaster4531 posted...

WaterLink posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Wetterdew posted...

The religious organization, which seeks to utilize athletes and coaches to spread Christian teachings, imparts a strongly anti-LGBTQ message. Staff and volunteers with the organization have been required to adhere to a strict sexual purity policy, prohibiting any homosexual acts, even for married couples. The group takes the view that, The Bible is clear in teaching on sexual sin including sex outside of marriage and homosexual acts. Neither heterosexual sex outside of marriage nor any homosexual act constitute an alternative lifestyle acceptable to God.

So have you ever been to a meeting? Or are you just gonna take some blog writer's word for it

It's in the leadership application.

http://fcaaustin.org/Websites/fcaaustin/files/Content/1538783/FCA_Student_Leader_Application.pdf

Which isnt required to go to meetings, just be a staff member. Once again they never even go into any of that stuff at meetings, it is essentially just another club for HS students who play sports to mingle after school.
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WaterLink posted...

Yes, they're anti-gay but not to the athletes.

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Webmaster4531 posted...

WaterLink posted...

Yes, they're anti-gay but not to the athletes.

So what do they do to harm gays? Because I've been to FCA banquets with gay athletes, and they received the exact same treatment as I did.
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They don't let gays join and if a gay joins they hear anti-gay messaging. It's not complicated.
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codey posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

WaterLink posted...

Yes, they're anti-gay but not to the athletes.

So what do they do to harm gays? Because I've been to FCA banquets with gay athletes, and they received the exact same treatment as I did.

Anti-gay doesn't mean they go out beating up gay people on the weekend.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

codey posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

WaterLink posted...

Yes, they're anti-gay but not to the athletes.

So what do they do to harm gays? Because I've been to FCA banquets with gay athletes, and they received the exact same treatment as I did.

Anti-gay doesn't mean they go out beating up gay people on the weekend.

The plaques they handed out to gay athletes didn't come with anti-gay messages either. The operators might not like gays, but they're not using the organization to discriminate against gays either.
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They are 100% using the organization to spread an anti-gay message. You are entitled to enjoy spending time with the people of that organization. Don't take it personally and accept the facts please
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Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If those Muslim groups held anti american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Muslims could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

If those Christian groups held pro american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Christians could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

Yes, it would.

...what?
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"Please use our business, while accepting the fact we dont condone homosexuality and fund organizations that do not as well"

"No"

"Intolerance! This is why Trump won!"
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If those Muslim groups held anti american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Muslims could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

If those Christian groups held pro american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Christians could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

Yes, it would.

...what?

I took your post and changed a few of the words. I don't know what you're trying to get at, but there are certain things an organization might support (such as a religion or a political party) that doesn't necessarily make them wrong even though you disagree with them.

And a company donating to a certain organization that has nothing to do with the company itself is even less relevant.
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They're still pro animal suffering, so fuck em anyway
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Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

If those Muslim groups held anti american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Muslims could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

If those Christian groups held pro american biases, but totally just held sports camps where even non Christians could hang out and not be subjected those beliefs, would it be ok?

Yes, it would.

...what?

I took your post and changed a few of the words. I don't know what you're trying to get at, but there are certain things an organization might support (such as a religion or a political party) that doesn't necessarily make them wrong even though you disagree with them.

And a company donating to a certain organization that has nothing to do with the company itself is even less relevant.

while it may not make them necessarily wrong, it absolutely is ok to not do business with a company that supports an ideology (anti homosexuality/anti American), even if that support is arguably benign.

notice how this story isnt about people trying to shut down the franchise. It's simply people deciding not to do business with them
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i'm not even saying you have to stop doing business with them

or stop going to FCA or insult people who do

just at least admit that at the top levels of that organization they've explicitly stated that they're anti-gay and you're a member of the group propping them up and giving them power. lie to me all you want but don't lie to yourself. it makes the food taste way better too
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rikasa posted...

They are 100% using the organization to spread an anti-gay message. You are entitled to enjoy spending time with the people of that organization. Don't take it personally and accept the facts please

The facts are that I attended these banquets as an atheist student athlete alongside gay student athletes. The only arguable proselytizing that occurred was a quick prayer before a meal, and there was no preaching nor anti-gay messages stated. Again, if there were, I wouldn't be defending them. The FCA was welcoming of kids from all walks of life and handed out their awards equally.

Like I said, the organizers might be anti-gay, but the organization itself is not being used for any sort of discrimination.
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it's a little sad to me but the vast majority of people cannot face truths they don't like
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