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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 3:00:40 PM
#151:


And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.
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PostCrisisJ2
11/30/18 3:03:01 PM
#152:


fair if true
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 3:20:55 PM
#153:


Dash_Harber posted...
And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~ A quote modern Leftists have long abandoned.
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 3:21:56 PM
#154:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~ A quote modern Leftists have long abandoned.


There is a difference between talking and harassment.
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A_Good_Boy
11/30/18 3:21:56 PM
#155:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~ A quote modern Leftists have long abandoned.

I don't want to be ethnically cleansed. Why do right wingers always want to fault me for that?
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 3:22:21 PM
#156:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~ A quote modern Leftists have long abandoned.


No one should defend a Nazi's ideology.
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Fony
11/30/18 3:23:24 PM
#157:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~ A quote modern Leftists have long abandoned.


So how do you feel about NFL players kneeling.
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Bio1590
11/30/18 3:27:57 PM
#158:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
And here come the clowns looking to defend literal Nazis with a ton of 'its his right to harass people' and 'what about antifa?!?!' comments. Carrying on the tradition of Nazi propaganda, I guess.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~ A quote modern Leftists have long abandoned.

I'm pretty sure our parents/grandparents/great-grandparents (there's a range of ages here) decided that didn't apply to Nazism.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 3:28:35 PM
#159:


Tmaster148 posted...

No one should defend a Nazi's ideology.


I don't defend flat Earth conspiracies or anti-vaxxer rhetoric, but I don't deny their right to say it. No one has defended Nazism here. They are defending free expression. Defending free expression is independent of what's being expressed.

Fony posted...
So how do you feel about NFL players kneeling.


I don't care all the whole subject was a distraction caused for the idiot in the executive office.
The players can kneel.
The organization can react how they want.
I personally am for police reforms but some of the incidents they're upset about were probably justified.
I'm also in favor of flag burning being legal. (Not that I connect the anthem to the flag, that always confused me.)
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CapnMuffin
11/30/18 3:29:39 PM
#160:


Punch The Nazis For Gods Sake
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 3:29:51 PM
#161:


Bio1590 posted...
I'm pretty sure our parents/grandparents/great-grandparents (there's a range of ages here) decided that didn't apply to Nazism.


We didn't declare war on Germany until they declared on us, after we declared on Japan for their sneak attack. They literally started it and used violence first. Unless this idiot attacked a Polish student first, what the fuck are you on about?
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Giant_Aspirin
11/30/18 3:31:39 PM
#162:


iClockwork posted...
More people endorsing violence instead of letting the kid look like a fool.


why does it often seem like you're defending-but-not-quite-defending these sorts of people?
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darkphoenix181
11/30/18 3:43:00 PM
#163:


I don't think a dude dressed in nazi uniform, unless it is like for a play or movie, is free expression.

Problem is punching them, unless for self defense, is wrong. What should happen is the police escort them out of public and in this case the school authorities.

Because a society that advocates violence against different opionions will ironically lead to fascim ( nazism). Atm the people punching might not be the government, but when this becomes the norm it becomes ok for the govt to take part too. Eventually the mob opinion becomes law to make the mob happy.

Why does it not qualify? Because it makes people want to act out in violence.

But it does lead to an interesting question.
Lets say there was this wild progressive idea that made people angry enough to be violent.
Say a guy preaches about white privilege in an area with loada of white people and those people want to act out in violence.
Does that make talking about white privilege not free speech?
If some white dude decks the man, is it really fair next just becauae he was of a minority voice and opinion against an agitated mob?

I think people who think this is defending nazis have problems with empathy and putting the shoe on the other foot. Nazism is bad, but what standard are we setting by callinf violence like this fair?
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theAteam
11/30/18 3:50:21 PM
#164:


Forget the fact he's wearing a nazi uniform.

If I went out on the street and harassed people and called them the n-word I'd get my face punched in as well.

This has always been the way things are.
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Funbazooka
11/30/18 3:52:46 PM
#165:


Did they arrest the violent thug?
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DrizztLink
11/30/18 3:55:16 PM
#166:


eston posted...
DrizztLink posted...
I do believe it has something to do with the whole "Dig a bigass hole, shoot a bunch of Jews, make a nice cozy mass grave" part of the Nazi playbook.

They weren't just big ass holes he was digging, they were trenches like what the soldiers fought in

Bigass hole was a bit of a euphemism.

I think trench-like holes were also used.

I'll need to look into it, but I feel like I read it in a survivor's memoir.

Night, maybe?
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:01:41 PM
#167:


clearaflagrantj posted...

Guess I'm removing the "cool d00d" tag I have for you.

Seriously man? Why die on this fucking hill.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 4:04:56 PM
#168:


darkphoenix181 posted...
I don't think a dude dressed in nazi uniform, unless it is like for a play or movie, is free expression.


Well you're wrong.
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iClockwork
11/30/18 4:22:30 PM
#169:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
why does it often seem like you're defending-but-not-quite-defending these sorts of people?

Becasue perpetuating and normalizing violence is objectively worse than some dumb fuck 18 year olds opinion.
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LightningAce11
11/30/18 4:23:41 PM
#170:


He's still not a victim even after getting punched.
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apocalyptic_4
11/30/18 4:26:00 PM
#171:


iClockwork posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
why does it often seem like you're defending-but-not-quite-defending these sorts of people?

Becasue perpetuating and normalizing violence is objectively worse than some dumb fuck 18 year olds opinion.


Why do you people who defend nazism boil down their rhetoric to "opinions" and "point of view"
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Bishop9800
11/30/18 4:26:15 PM
#172:


iClockwork posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
why does it often seem like you're defending-but-not-quite-defending these sorts of people?

Becasue perpetuating and normalizing violence is objectively worse than some dumb fuck 18 year olds opinion.


Would you say the same thing if it was reversed?
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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:26:20 PM
#173:


Kineth posted...
Guess I'm removing the "cool d00d" tag I have for you.

Seriously man? Why die on this fucking hill.

My argument is simple: it is never okay to escalate to physical violence except in self defense. The little Nazi didn't assault the black kid as far as I can see, the black kid sucker punched him.
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Bishop9800
11/30/18 4:27:59 PM
#174:


clearaflagrantj posted...
My argument is simple: it is never okay to escalate to physical violence except in self defense. The little Nazi didn't assault the black kid as far as I can see, the black kid sucker punched him.


So if someone was disrespecting your wife/girlfriend, kids or whatever, what would you do? (Just curious)
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:28:52 PM
#175:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
Guess I'm removing the "cool d00d" tag I have for you.

Seriously man? Why die on this fucking hill.

My argument is simple


No. You're simple. You probably have a pink rosy background in your head as you get high on your own farts with this moral high ground fantasy where Nazis are willing to listen to people.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/30/18 4:28:53 PM
#176:


I don't have time to read the whole topic, but how many usual suspects have posted shit like "ViOLeNcE iSn'T oKaY eVeN iF gUy iS raCiSt NaZi" or other such nonsense so far?
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DarkChozoGhost
11/30/18 4:29:54 PM
#177:


clearaflagrantj posted...
My argument is simple: it is never okay to escalate to physical violence except in self defense.

Wrong.
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Bishop9800
11/30/18 4:30:03 PM
#178:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't have time to read the whole topic, but how many usual suspects have posted shit like "ViOLeNcE iSn'T oKaY eVeN iF gUy iS raCiSt NaZi" or other such nonsense so far?


Take a guess.......
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 4:32:23 PM
#179:


Bishop9800 posted...

Would you say the same thing if it was reversed?


So if someone was disrespecting your wife/girlfriend or whatever, what would you do? (Just curious)


Why do you ask dumb questions, do you literally not understand their/our position well enough to extrapolate?

I'll spoon feed you the answers, 1. Yes, and 2. if I was goaded into violence, I would take the legal punishment like a man.

This is sort of why we don't allow victims to be on the jury.
Biases, subject/objectivity, etc etc etc
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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:33:15 PM
#180:


Kineth posted...
No. You're simple.

Good one

Bishop9800 posted...
So if someone was disrespecting your wife/girlfriend, kids or whatever, what would you do? (Just curious)

Tell them to go fuck themselves.

In my mind physical violence is like mutually assured destruction with nuclear bombs. Once someone decides to use a nuke, all bets are off. You can do anything you want to the point before assaulting someone, once you assault or hit someone, you turn the confrontation into a violent, physical one.

And for fuck's sake, if I did decide to hit someone, I wouldn't sucker punch them, that's a pussy move.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 4:34:00 PM
#181:


Kineth posted...
where Nazis are willing to listen to people.


We don't need them to listen or conform.
We need them to obey the law.

Are you really suggesting that it's okay to punch them simply because you can reason them to your side?
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:36:01 PM
#182:


You forgot the part where you're getting high on your own farts with your moral high ground bullshit.

But Nazi apologists don't listen either, do they.
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DarkChozoGhost
11/30/18 4:37:15 PM
#183:


clearaflagrantj posted...
In my mind physical violence is like mutually assured destruction with nuclear bombs.

Well, your opinion is skewed. It is not aligned with what is moral or ethical.
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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:39:15 PM
#184:


Kineth posted...
You forgot the part where you're getting high on your own farts with your moral high ground bullshit.

But Nazi apologists don't listen either, do they.

All I'm seeing here is "us vs them," "kill all [X]," etc. etc.

We going to ignore the fact that the kid is posting selfie videos with a German flag along with a Soviet flag? He's not even consistent, clearly some deranged kid with a mental illness, punching him isn't going to fix that, just going to make him shoot up his school.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 4:39:38 PM
#185:


Kineth posted...
You forgot the part where you're getting high on your own farts with your moral high ground bullshit.


Says that guy screeching his virtue against a stupid kid.
"GAMEFAQS, I NEED YOU ALL TO KNOW, IM VERY MUCH AGAINST NAZIS."
Yeah we fucking all are, however we don't all adopt their tactics. Some of us have managed to keep our values.

But Nazi apologists don't listen either, do they.


Nor Trump supporters, Commies, people that think Hillary is literally a satan-lizard, most identitarians.
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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:40:52 PM
#186:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
In my mind physical violence is like mutually assured destruction with nuclear bombs.

Well, your opinion is skewed. It is not aligned with what is moral or ethical.

We have different value systems then. All I know is mine is the one aligned with the US Constitution and the laws of the land, meanwhile yours is the one that will end up with one or both of you in a hospital/prison cell. Life isn't like the movies, you're not Arnold Schwarzenegger, you can't go around punching people.
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:42:43 PM
#187:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
You forgot the part where you're getting high on your own farts with your moral high ground bullshit.

But Nazi apologists don't listen either, do they.

All I'm seeing here is "us vs them," "kill all [X]," etc. etc.


I'm a black guy. Yes, it is us vs. them. I'm sorry that I don't get to think that I can be on the same side as a Nazi because I share the same skin tone as them, but you're not being original with this shit and my opinion of you is rapidly declining. You think I haven't heard these stupid fucking arguments before already? You think you're teaching people anything? Stop smelling your own farts, jfc.
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Bishop9800
11/30/18 4:43:47 PM
#188:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Tell them to go fuck themselves.

In my mind physical violence is like mutually assured destruction with nuclear bombs. Once someone decides to use a nuke, all bets are off. You can do anything you want to the point before assaulting someone, once you assault or hit someone, you turn the confrontation into a violent, physical one.

And for fuck's sake, if I did decide to hit someone, I wouldn't sucker punch them, that's a pussy move.


Ok, now I see wassup.... Thanks for the explanation

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Womp womp, womp womp.


I asked him, not you. Please shut the hell up when grown folks are talking and stay in a kid's place. Thank you.
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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:43:58 PM
#189:


Kineth posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
You forgot the part where you're getting high on your own farts with your moral high ground bullshit.

But Nazi apologists don't listen either, do they.

All I'm seeing here is "us vs them," "kill all [X]," etc. etc.


I'm a black guy. Yes, it is us vs. them. I'm sorry that I don't get to think that I can be on the same side as a Nazi because I share the same skin tone as them, but you're not being original with this shit and my opinion of you is rapidly declining. You think I haven't heard these stupid fucking arguments before already? You think you're teaching people anything? Stop smelling your own farts, jfc.

I'm a Jew you dumbass
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:45:39 PM
#191:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
You forgot the part where you're getting high on your own farts with your moral high ground bullshit.

But Nazi apologists don't listen either, do they.

All I'm seeing here is "us vs them," "kill all [X]," etc. etc.


I'm a black guy. Yes, it is us vs. them. I'm sorry that I don't get to think that I can be on the same side as a Nazi because I share the same skin tone as them, but you're not being original with this shit and my opinion of you is rapidly declining. You think I haven't heard these stupid fucking arguments before already? You think you're teaching people anything? Stop smelling your own farts, jfc.

I'm a Jew you dumbass


Self-hating Jews are suddenly not a thing? You're never catching me siding with the KKK or dedicating a full day to it either.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 4:50:04 PM
#193:


Kineth posted...
I'm a black guy. Yes, it is us vs. them. I'm sorry that I don't get to think that I can be on the same side as a Nazi because I share the same skin tone as them


What do you think the Nazis stance/policies on blacks was?
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apocalyptic_4
11/30/18 4:53:05 PM
#194:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
Guess I'm removing the "cool d00d" tag I have for you.

Seriously man? Why die on this fucking hill.

My argument is simple: it is never okay to escalate to physical violence except in self defense. The little Nazi didn't assault the black kid as far as I can see, the black kid sucker punched him.


The world wont descend into chaos if everyone operates the way that black kid did towards that nazi kid. This isnt a argument of the morality of escalating a disagreement to assault this is having the common sense not to aggravate people with hatred views.

Let's settle this, how do we stop getting assaulted in public?

hmm let's start by not perpetuating hate speech in public and have a civil open discussion about it in another way
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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:55:14 PM
#195:


Kineth posted...
Self-hating Jews are suddenly not a thing? You're never catching me siding with the KKK or dedicating a full day to it either.

All Jews are self hating sweetheart.

And like I've said countless times in this topic I'm not defending Nazism, that's a pretty weak tactic. The same line of thinking says "all Trump voters are racists," "all conservatives are homophobic," etc.

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11/30/18 4:55:21 PM
#196:


iClockwork posted...
More people endorsing violence instead of letting the kid look like a fool.
I don't think getting punched undid that.
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DrizztLink
11/30/18 4:56:13 PM
#197:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Kineth posted...
Guess I'm removing the "cool d00d" tag I have for you.

Seriously man? Why die on this fucking hill.

My argument is simple: it is never okay to escalate to physical violence except in self defense. The little Nazi didn't assault the black kid as far as I can see, the black kid sucker punched him.


The world wont descend into chaos if everyone operates the way that black kid did towards that nazi kid. This isnt a argument of the morality of escalating a disagreement to assault this is having the common sense not to aggravate people with hatred views.

Let's settle this, how do we stop getting assaulted in public?

hmm let's start by not perpetuating hate speech in public and have a civil open discussion about it in another way

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DrizztLink
11/30/18 4:57:28 PM
#198:


clearaflagrantj posted...
All Jews are self hating sweetheart.

As another Jew:

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clearaflagrantj
11/30/18 4:59:28 PM
#199:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
The world wont descend into chaos if everyone operates the way that black kid did towards that nazi kid. This isnt a argument of the morality of escalating a disagreement to assault this is having the common sense not to aggravate people with hatred views.

Let's settle this, how do we stop getting assaulted in public?

hmm let's start by not perpetuating hate speech in public and have a civil open discussion about it in another way

> Misguided person is raised racist

> His interactions with other races is magnified, specifically negative interactions. His dumbass racism is met with violence

His first instinct isn't "wow I am wrong," it's "wow I was right the whole time, blacks are evil."

Best way to combat racism? Integrate people, let them absorb each other's culture. It's very easy to hate someone when you don't know them, you get to fill in your gaps of knowledge of their character with cheap excuses.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/30/18 5:02:50 PM
#200:


Bishop9800 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't have time to read the whole topic, but how many usual suspects have posted shit like "ViOLeNcE iSn'T oKaY eVeN iF gUy iS raCiSt NaZi" or other such nonsense so far?


Take a guess.......


Hmm, tough to say. Considering many are in time out and a few just got back, and including alts... I'm gonna guess 8.
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