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The Nintendo Master
11/28/18 2:08:42 AM
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Kirby's Dream Land -> Kirby's Dream Land 2
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TheDeadMoon
11/28/18 2:26:18 AM
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AvantgardeAClue
11/28/18 2:41:09 AM
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Oh yeah

Virtua Fighter 1 to Virtua Fighter 2 was so good they used the first game's models in a before/after transition to the new graphics
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/28/18 2:47:06 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
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Goldeneye to Perfect Dark

ehh, I don't feel like it was THAT much of a jump in graphics

It was, but Perfect Dark required the 64 Expansion Pak. Not sure it should count for the purposes of this topic tbh
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Kineth
11/28/18 2:49:46 AM
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Shadow Hearts --> Shadow Hearts: Covenant

Oh, in regards to graphics?

Super Mario Land -> Super Mario Land 2
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 2:53:25 AM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Chewster posted...
Goldeneye to Perfect Dark

ehh, I don't feel like it was THAT much of a jump in graphics

It was, but Perfect Dark required the 64 Expansion Pak. Not sure it should count for the purposes of this topic tbh

it does. I didn't read the fine print that it was all inclusive of all greater and bettererness in the sequel
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 2:54:10 AM
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Kineth posted...
Oh, in regards to graphics?

nay, I was just jumping the gun and assuming it was only graphics
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cmiller4642
11/28/18 3:01:33 AM
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Final Fantasy IV to Final Fantasy VI
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spikethedevil
11/28/18 3:13:48 AM
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Saints Row 1 -> Saints Row 2.
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Lunar_Savage
11/28/18 3:38:12 AM
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Halo ---> Halo 2

Improved graphics and online play were fantastic leaps for the fps genre at the time.
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mooreandrew58
11/28/18 4:30:27 AM
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Metal gear solid 4 to 5. Not talking story here just graphics and gameplay. Maybe I missed a lot of later last gen games but 5 to me looked like a current gen game but it also came out on last gen consoles
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mooreandrew58
11/28/18 4:32:29 AM
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Darmik posted...
Splinter Cell 1 to Chaos Theory looks like an entire new generation leap

Hitman 2 to Blood Money was also on the same generation but I dunno how well the PS2/Xbox version ran. IIRC it held up well

Gears of War 1 to 3 is also a large leap. By the time 3 hits you've got better visuals, a much larger scale and 4 player coop.

Uncharted 1 is just okay. Uncharted 2 is one of the best cinematic shooters of the generation.

Crash Bandicoot 2 is a massive leap from 1 as well.


Blood money played beautifully on PS2 only thing I remember liking more about the port to the gen after was I believe they added in visual wounds on people you shot or rather blood spots at least.
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EffectAndCause
11/28/18 4:44:28 AM
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EffectAndCause posted...
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 -> Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4

I think you are the only person to ever put THPS4 over THPS3.


Why would he be?

THPS3 was great but THPS4/THUG were peak of the franchise

THUG was great, but what did THPS4 bring to the table?


You just admitted youve never played it, which explains so much.
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SSJKirby
11/28/18 12:10:57 PM
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Timesplitters 1 to timesplitters 2 was pretty huge
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catboy0_0
11/28/18 12:12:02 PM
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Makeveli_lives
11/28/18 12:13:39 PM
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Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 2
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aki_sora
11/28/18 12:16:11 PM
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Dmc to dmc 3
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DevsBro
11/28/18 12:19:41 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Assassins creed 1 -> assassins creed 2

And then again with Rev to 3 tbh
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XXmiznatorXX
11/28/18 12:21:08 PM
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Yeah, Crash 1 to Crash 2 was pretty big. The original game still doesn't look bad today 21 years later.

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DevsBro
11/28/18 12:23:21 PM
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EffectAndCause posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Conflict posted...
sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
EffectAndCause posted...
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 -> Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4

I think you are the only person to ever put THPS4 over THPS3.


Why would he be?

THPS3 was great but THPS4/THUG were peak of the franchise

THUG was great, but what did THPS4 bring to the table?


You just admitted youve never played it, which explains so much.

It more or less feels like a stylistic change rather than a mechanical one. Though it did feel like they may have used a different engine too.
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EffectAndCause
11/28/18 12:30:28 PM
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And have fully voiced NPCs all over the place.
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DevsBro
11/28/18 12:34:34 PM
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Conflict posted...
No it's most definitely a mechanical change to go from the time limit layout to an open world game with missions

I would call that stylistic tbh.

Mechanical would be more like the removal of Carplant in favor of riding on cars, or the addition of skitching. Those kinds of changes were kinda scarce compared to the update from 2 to 3 or 4 to UG.
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Balrog0
11/28/18 12:37:52 PM
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Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard
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DeadSite
11/28/18 12:45:59 PM
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Polycosm
11/28/18 12:51:30 PM
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Turok -> Turok 2
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TheMaskedPooper
11/28/18 1:17:16 PM
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Spider-Man --> Spider-Man 2
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Tyranthraxus
11/28/18 1:51:36 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.
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Kineth
11/29/18 4:38:23 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.


Eh, the collision mechanics were better and so was the gameplay, at least, imo. It also allowed for more expansive gameplay with the class system and the graphics.
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neverwin
11/29/18 4:47:23 AM
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Dark Cloud to Dark Cloud 2, like holy shit.
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butthole666
11/29/18 4:53:51 AM
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R&C to Going Commando was pretty massive

Also DOOM II to Quake even though its definitely cheating a bit
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spikethedevil
11/29/18 8:59:50 AM
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Red Alert to Red Alert 2.
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Chewster
11/29/18 9:46:35 AM
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I don't know if PC games should count...
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Balrog0
11/29/18 9:51:47 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.


I said secret of mana not seiken densetsu

They're enormously different in pretty much every way. The first doesn't even have a class system, the story was butchered because of. space and time constraints, etc

The graphics aren't a huge upgrade but they are certainly better
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Tyranthraxus
11/29/18 10:39:01 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.


I said secret of mana not seiken densetsu

They're enormously different in pretty much every way. The first doesn't even have a class system, the story was butchered because of. space and time constraints, etc

The graphics aren't a huge upgrade but they are certainly better


Seiken Densetsu 3 is not Secret of Mana 2. Secret of Mana is already Secret of Mana 2.

What you're essentially saying is Final Fantasy 7 is actually Final Fantasy 4.
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Balrog0
11/29/18 10:43:47 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.


I said secret of mana not seiken densetsu

They're enormously different in pretty much every way. The first doesn't even have a class system, the story was butchered because of. space and time constraints, etc

The graphics aren't a huge upgrade but they are certainly better


Seiken Densetsu 3 is not Secret of Mana 2. Secret of Mana is already Secret of Mana 2.

What you're essentially saying is Final Fantasy 7 is actually Final Fantasy 4.


Idc
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Kineth
11/29/18 11:48:30 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.


I said secret of mana not seiken densetsu

They're enormously different in pretty much every way. The first doesn't even have a class system, the story was butchered because of. space and time constraints, etc

The graphics aren't a huge upgrade but they are certainly better


Seiken Densetsu 3 is not Secret of Mana 2. Secret of Mana is already Secret of Mana 2.

What you're essentially saying is Final Fantasy 7 is actually Final Fantasy 4.


You really don't need to be nitpicking this especially since the topic is about games in a series on the same system.
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Tyranthraxus
11/29/18 1:45:40 PM
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Kineth posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Balrog0 posted...
Secret of mana 1 to 2 is a huge step up in pretty much every regard

1 was on a different system. 2 and 3 are not much different.


I said secret of mana not seiken densetsu

They're enormously different in pretty much every way. The first doesn't even have a class system, the story was butchered because of. space and time constraints, etc

The graphics aren't a huge upgrade but they are certainly better


Seiken Densetsu 3 is not Secret of Mana 2. Secret of Mana is already Secret of Mana 2.

What you're essentially saying is Final Fantasy 7 is actually Final Fantasy 4.


You really don't need to be nitpicking this especially since the topic is about games in a series on the same system.


I already addressed that 2 and 3 are not very different from each other. 3 is a bit graphically improved, has multiple party leads, and the class system replaces weapon orbs but they're basically the same game otherwise.
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Kineth
11/29/18 1:50:40 PM
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I didn't question that. I'm saying it's really unnecessary to nitpick the fact that he didn't mention Final Fantasy Adventures as the first Secret of Mana.
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