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ledbowman
11/26/18 12:43:31 AM
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Hi Alexandria, would you like to debate @benshapiro? Ill be happy to moderate and donate all proceeds to the charity of your choice. https://t.co/nPMvSIYO3n

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1066869824066744321?s=19

It's gettin sad.
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Bio1590
11/26/18 12:47:14 AM
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Is this how desperate Shapiro is at this point to get the attention he craves?
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JediMasterTrump
11/26/18 12:48:54 AM
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AOC is shook.
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FrisbeeDude
11/26/18 12:49:24 AM
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I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.
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Sativa_Rose
11/26/18 12:50:16 AM
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It's because she literally said something about how conservatives were afraid to debate ideas or something, I am trying to find the tweet.
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008Zulu
11/26/18 12:50:32 AM
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What does he want to debate?
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Sativa_Rose
11/26/18 12:51:01 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.
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CommonStar
11/26/18 12:54:20 AM
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What happened to Dave Rubin, he used to be sane.
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ledbowman
11/26/18 12:56:03 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

He's still a right wing asshole.
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FrisbeeDude
11/26/18 12:56:06 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.



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au_gold
11/26/18 12:57:54 AM
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Im sure it would be a great debate.
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Bio1590
11/26/18 1:00:23 AM
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CommonStar posted...
What happened to Dave Rubin, he used to be sane.

He sold himself out to people like the Koch brothers
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Sativa_Rose
11/26/18 1:01:02 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

He's still a right wing asshole.

Fine, but sticking the label "alt-right" on anything conservative people dislike has been really annoying. He is a traditional conservative.
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ledbowman
11/26/18 1:03:03 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

He's still a right wing asshole.

Fine, but sticking the label "alt-right" on anything conservative people dislike has been really annoying. He is a traditional conservative.

He wrote for a site that asked Nazis to edit their stories for them so I see why he has that reputation.
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Manocheese
11/26/18 1:07:21 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
It's because she literally said something about how conservatives were afraid to debate ideas or something, I am trying to find the tweet.

Liberals like to ignore this part of the story. Here's how it went:

Cortez: "Conservatives are afraid to debate me!"
Shapiro: "I'm not afraid. I'll debate you."
Cortez: "STOP CATCALLING ME!"
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Bio1590
11/26/18 1:09:50 AM
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Manocheese posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
It's because she literally said something about how conservatives were afraid to debate ideas or something, I am trying to find the tweet.

Liberals like to ignore this part of the story. Here's how it went:

Cortez: "Conservatives are afraid to debate me!"
Shapiro: "I'm not afraid. I'll debate you."
Cortez: "STOP CATCALLING ME!"

Well that's a gross oversimplification of how it went
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ledbowman
11/26/18 1:11:29 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

He's still a right wing asshole.

Admit you're wrong before moving on. If you just quickly jump to "he's still a right wing asshole", it makes you look petty.

You could at least start with a "my bad".

Why would I say "my bad?"
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BillyKidd
11/26/18 1:12:04 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


it's not bait. It's showing that they don't really care about other people or charities they talk about.
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Sativa_Rose
11/26/18 1:17:40 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

He's still a right wing asshole.

Fine, but sticking the label "alt-right" on anything conservative people dislike has been really annoying. He is a traditional conservative.

He wrote for a site that asked Nazis to edit their stories for them so I see why he has that reputation.


He resigned from Breitbart all the way back in early 2016 before the Republican primary was even over because he thought they were starting to cross the line. That was over 2 years ago now, and well before that information had even come out.
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ledbowman
11/26/18 1:17:51 AM
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@totalnerdken you should admit you were wrong before moving on.
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ledbowman
11/26/18 1:19:18 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
ledbowman posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

He's still a right wing asshole.

Fine, but sticking the label "alt-right" on anything conservative people dislike has been really annoying. He is a traditional conservative.

He wrote for a site that asked Nazis to edit their stories for them so I see why he has that reputation.


He resigned from Breitbart all the way back in early 2016 before the Republican primary was even over because he thought they were starting to cross the line. That was over 2 years ago now, and well before that information had even come out.

I know but he still has the stink on him because Breitbart has always been a racist shithole.
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Tmaster148
11/26/18 1:20:40 AM
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No one should waste their time with shapiro.
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Vicious_Dios
11/26/18 1:20:53 AM
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Easy pickings for Shapiro.
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ledbowman
11/26/18 1:22:34 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
ledbowman posted...
@totalnerdken you should admit you were wrong before moving on.

If you've seen my past posts, I always do this. Always acknowledge where I fucked up.

So, tell me, where did I fuck up here?

I didn't call Shapiro alt-right.
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Darmik
11/26/18 1:28:24 AM
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It's weird how this almost a universal thing with conservative blowhards who have an internet presence.

Probably because it consistently gets their audience something else to whine at.
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Returning_CEmen
11/26/18 1:29:44 AM
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Calling her out on Twitter when she doesn't have one
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ThyCorndog
11/26/18 1:30:18 AM
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socialism = SMASHED
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Darmik
11/26/18 1:35:04 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
Darmik posted...
It's weird how this almost a universal thing with conservative blowhards who have an internet presence.

Probably because it consistently gets their audience something else to whine at.

But Cortez did legit fuck up here. Said she'd debate someone who's conservative then wined about it when the opportunity arose.

I do kind of like her spirit and the ideals she has, but she's a bit of a dumb fuck who doesn't know what she's talking about.


Wasn't it about her actual opposition and not just some internet dickhead?
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DezDroppedFreak
11/26/18 1:37:48 AM
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It would be a shitty debate

You have one who started the annoying conservative commentary trend of speaking quickly to make yourself seem more intelligent than you really are

And you have someone else who at times struggles to even form sentences

Pass
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Bio1590
11/26/18 1:41:53 AM
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Darmik posted...
Wasn't it about her actual opposition and not just some internet dickhead?

Yes and that was obvious to anyone with a brain.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
11/26/18 1:43:21 AM
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Darmik posted...
totalnerdken posted...
Darmik posted...
It's weird how this almost a universal thing with conservative blowhards who have an internet presence.

Probably because it consistently gets their audience something else to whine at.

But Cortez did legit fuck up here. Said she'd debate someone who's conservative then wined about it when the opportunity arose.

I do kind of like her spirit and the ideals she has, but she's a bit of a dumb fuck who doesn't know what she's talking about.


Wasn't it about her actual opposition and not just some internet dickhead?

Yeah I thought she said that about the "opposition", not just any random conservative. Ben isn't even a politician, why should he get her time?
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Blue_Dream87
11/26/18 1:45:15 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Darmik posted...
totalnerdken posted...
Darmik posted...
It's weird how this almost a universal thing with conservative blowhards who have an internet presence.

Probably because it consistently gets their audience something else to whine at.

But Cortez did legit fuck up here. Said she'd debate someone who's conservative then wined about it when the opportunity arose.

I do kind of like her spirit and the ideals she has, but she's a bit of a dumb fuck who doesn't know what she's talking about.


Wasn't it about her actual opposition and not just some internet dickhead?

Yeah I thought she said that about the "opposition", not just any random conservative. Ben isn't even a politician, why should he get her time?


Exactly, but it's mainly those anti-SJWs who want to see Shapiro "own" her so they'll twist and misread anything
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ledbowman
11/26/18 1:52:16 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Darmik posted...
Wasn't it about her actual opposition and not just some internet dickhead?

Yes and that was obvious to anyone with a brain.

I wonder if Sativa and Manocheese will admit they were wrong before moving on.
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BillyKidd
11/26/18 11:22:30 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
Calling her out on Twitter when she doesn't have one


are they not talking about https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018 ?
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Kolibri X
11/26/18 11:25:48 AM
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Can't believe she's still getting cat calls.
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P4wn4g3
11/26/18 11:33:35 AM
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totalnerdken posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Manocheese posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
It's because she literally said something about how conservatives were afraid to debate ideas or something, I am trying to find the tweet.

Liberals like to ignore this part of the story. Here's how it went:

Cortez: "Conservatives are afraid to debate me!"
Shapiro: "I'm not afraid. I'll debate you."
Cortez: "STOP CATCALLING ME!"

Well that's a gross oversimplification of how it went

Technically yes, but it's not totally wrong. Cortez was very clearly in the wrong for the whole thing.

This is her third week of congress orientation and these idiots are trying to act superior, because I guess even though they are fossils that have had these jobs forever a young woman with new ideas makes them piss their pants. And frankly the ideas aren't new, they just aren't pushed into congress by corporate America.

Oh and of course add to this that this is the best you get with Republicans.
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C_Pain
11/26/18 11:34:08 AM
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I agree with that.
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Forlorn_Ass
11/26/18 11:39:57 AM
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People still call Shapiro a Nazi? Damn the left just calls anyone they don't agree with racist ...
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Alpha218
11/26/18 11:50:36 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.


Ben Shapiro isn't alt-right, he was actually ranked as the #1 recipient of online harassment from the alt-right one year, 2016 or 2017 I don't remember which.

Please source this claim.
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Laserion
11/26/18 11:52:54 AM
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*Shapiro
*Rubin

Is there an "Elmerado" guy in all this?
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Romulox28
11/26/18 12:00:49 PM
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ben shapiro is pretty much a professional talker and his appeal is towards people who are so devoid of insight that they cannot interpret discussions from any angle other than winner/loser.

look up the gish gallop, that's his primary MO. he rattles off facts and half truths so you don't know where to start, and he has this tone of voice that sounds like he is upset but not really and it throws off people who subconsciously try to match it.

personally i think he would wreck AoC in a "debate" because he is a professional talker and she is not. however i think shapiro has a whole lot more in common with an auctioneer than i do a politician or intellectual
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The Great Muta 22
11/26/18 1:21:11 PM
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1. AOC initially called out her opponent to debate her, not any random conservative online, and Shapiro decided to be his typical dickish self and insert himself into a situation where he has no place to be. If he wants to run for public office in her district then maybe he'd have a point, but right now he doesn't and all it was was red meat for his base.

2. Shapiro's method of gish galloping his way through "debates" isn't worth anyone's time or effort as it will go no where and be utterly unproductive. I really don't know what started this trend on the right to be fucking obsessed with the tactic of just hurling half truths and information at a quick pace at your opposition to "own" them and win the debate, but in a proper discussion it holds utterly no value and is only indicative of someone acting in bad faith.

3. These two, and others, being so utterly obsessed with a random freshman House Rep, regardless of her popularity, isn't healthy. At least Trump is the fucking POTUS so it makes sense to care about him that much, AOC is nothing but one of 435 Reps in the country. And even if you hate her, it's not as if there hasn't been an abundance of random and ridiculous Reps that quickly burn out and fade away. Especially ones serving their first term and aren't really a mainstay in politics yet.

4. Ben Shapiro did write for Breitbart and resigned after Lewandowski assaulted one of the reporters for the site and Breitbart defended him over her. He also used to write for noted fake news site WND and shit like Townhall, where he penned this lovely article talking about "the militant homosexual agenda"

https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2003/08/20/militant-gay-english-on-the-rise-n1334827

English departments around the country have become brainwashing centers for the militant gay movement.


If you pay tuition, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If you pay taxes, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If your child majors in English, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. Tell Billy to major in math.

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Bio1590
11/26/18 2:14:42 PM
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It honestly kills me that this guy's only in his mid-30s so I'm probably going to have to hear about him for a majority of my adult life.
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Tyranthraxus
11/26/18 2:19:16 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
I love the alt right IRL trolls think using a charitable donation is strong enough bait.

History of charity promises made by right wingers are worth as much as the hot air they were made from.

Jack Thompson never paid out even after someone intentionally made a video game just to meet his criteria.
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