Current Events > Crazy racist white man arrested after pulling gun on black teens at McDonalds.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/us/mcdonalds-minnesota-gun-white-man.html

A white man displayed a gun during an argument with a group of mostly Somali-American teenagers at a McDonalds in Minnesota after he wrongly suggested they were using welfare assistance to pay for their food, members of the group said.

The confrontation with the man, which was partly captured on a video that has been widely circulated on Twitter, occurred on Monday at a McDonalds restaurant in Eden Prairie, Minn., a suburb southwest of Minneapolis, and ended without any shots fired or injuries sustained.

On Wednesday, the Eden Prairie police arrested Lloyd Edward Johnson, 55, under probable cause for second-degree assault, the city said in a statement. Mr. Johnson was being held at the Hennepin County Adult Detention Center. Joyce Lorenz, a spokeswoman for the city, said on Thursday that the Hennepin County attorney would decide whether to file any charges.

For Jihan Abdullahi, 17, one of the teenagers in the group, the confrontation was a shocking instance of racism that left her scared but thankful that things did not turn out worse.

Someone could easily have died, Jihan said in an interview on Wednesday. Anybody could easily have died.

Jihan said she and some friends were doing homework at a library on Monday when, just before 8 p.m., they decided to head to a nearby McDonalds.

This is the McDonalds we go to every day, Jihan said. Its our hangout spot.

Jihan said she and a friend tried to pay for an order of Cinnamon Melts with Apple Pay, the mobile payment app, but the system didnt work.

Thats when the man started to complain that he wanted them to hurry up, she said. Then, as they were passing him after leaving the line, he asked them if they were using electronic benefits transfer cards, which are like debit cards for welfare benefits, to pay for their food.

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Jihan said that she asked him if he had said that because she and her friends were black, and that the man said yes.

A verbal argument escalated between the man and the teenagers before the man put his hands in his pockets, Jihan said, adding, He told everybody to back up.

The next few moments were captured on the cellphone video. The video shows the man pointing at the group and yelling as he backs out of the restaurant. Then the group suddenly scatters, shouting that the man has a gun. Jihan said she saw him waving a black handgun around.

After the man left the McDonalds, the video shows, a restaurant employee used expletives to tell the teenagers to leave the restaurant, despite a bystanders pleas not to put the teenagers in more danger.

Another employee, who was also recorded in a second video, told the group that the gun had been pulled for a reason.

Jihan said she hoped that McDonalds would train its workers to respond better in such situations.

The encounter has raised anger at the treatment of the teenagers by both the restaurants employees and the man, and has been characterized as a hate incident by the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. The state is home to more than 46,000 Somali-born residents and their children.

Paul Ostergaard, the owner and operator of the Eden Prairie McDonalds franchise location, said in a statement that he was taking the matter seriously.

Nothing is more important than the safety and security of our customers and employees, he said.

Yet another instance of hate crimes against black people.
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He told everybody to back up.

The next few moments were captured on the cellphone video. The video shows the man pointing at the group and yelling as he backs out of the restaurant.

After the man left the McDonalds, the video shows, a restaurant employee used expletives to tell the teenagers to leave the restaurant

Another employee, who was also recorded in a second video, told the group that the gun had been pulled for a reason.

something tells me we aren't getting the full story
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He looks exactly like you'd think he would look
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Lmao and of course we have tehdud in here armed and ready to defend the poor psycho racist
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ModLogic posted...

something tells me we aren't getting the full story

I posted the video. Find what you think is missing.
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The employees that forced the kids to go outside, possibly to a waiting gunman, deserve firing or worse
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The guy is a butthole but they shouldn't have threatened him physically.
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do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?
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ModLogic posted...

do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?

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Kazi1212 posted...

ModLogic posted...

do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?

huh???
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I dunno, Im just rolling with it.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Jihan said that she asked him if he had said that because she and her friends were black, and that the man said yes.

*facepalm*
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Kazi1212 posted...

ModLogic posted...

do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?

That's kind of a weird assumption to run with. What are you using to conclude that his exit was blocked?
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I'm just here to see who will defend this, and I'm not disappointed
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Oh yay. A racist incident involving people from a travel ban country.

Look for Commander Cheeto to tweet about this at 5AM.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

ModLogic posted...

do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?

That's kind of a weird assumption to run with. What are you using to conclude that his exit was blocked?

the video you yourself posted of the gang standing in front of the door he was trying to walk out of?
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ModLogic trying to prove he's just as racist as the guy in this story

ModLogic posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

ModLogic posted...

do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?

That's kind of a weird assumption to run with. What are you using to conclude that his exit was blocked?

the video you yourself posted of the gang standing in front of the door he was trying to walk out of?

The teens were so emotionally scarred by the incident you can hear laughing in the background in one of the videos posted.
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ModLogic posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

ModLogic posted...

do you have the footage before the part where 6 or 7 guys was blocking the guy from exiting?

That's kind of a weird assumption to run with. What are you using to conclude that his exit was blocked?

the video you yourself posted of the gang standing in front of the door he was trying to walk out of?

You mean the one that showed that his egress to the door being unobstructed the entire time?

Might want to get those eyes checked broheim.
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I probably should have watched the video before commenting earlier.
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Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.
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Wth@ that chick trying to kick them outside to where the guy with the gun went. Thankfully that other guy had their backs. I actually didn't really think about it until he stepped in.

Also, why are the usual suspects trippin because a white guy was the bad guy in this situation, another white guy had their backs so it cancels out white people being just the bad guys in this one lol
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I can kind of understand the employees wanting them to leave for fear of being caught in the crossfire if he came back. They couldn't just leave the restaurant themselves or they might lose their jobs, so what else could they have done to ensure their own safety? It's still kind of shitty, but still kind of understandable.
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ultimate reaver posted...

The employees that forced the kids to go outside, possibly to a waiting gunman, deserve firing or worse

I would have refused the order. a mcdonalds worker doesn ot have the authority to command me to walk towards a gunman. let him call the cops. I don't care. the cops will deal with the gunman outside if hes still around

Sunburst posted...

Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.

I mean, it was clearly racist. But going by the reactions of the employees, I dont think we can completely discount there may have been physical provocations that might have triggered the escalation for why he pulled his gun out. But I guess well see what happens in court.
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SpiralDrift posted...

I can kind of understand the employees wanting them to leave for fear of being caught in the crossfire if he came back. They couldn't just leave the restaurant themselves or they might lose their jobs, so what else could they have done to ensure their own safety? It's still kind of shitty, but still kind of understandable.

You go above and beyong to not be a hero lol. "I gotta worry about my life, so this group of kids gotta jump in front of this bullet for me"

The dude had already left the place. However, I feel like she might of been acting in the moment and not realizing what she was proposing. She didn't fight back when the dude checked her so she might of just had an eroor of judgement.
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Kazi1212 posted...

Sunburst posted...

Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.

I mean, it was clearly racist. But going by the reactions of the employees, I dont think we can completely discount there may have been physical provocations that might have triggered the escalation for why he pulled his gun out. But I guess well see what happens in court.

In the very same video the employee admitted he said that baselessly.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Sunburst posted...

Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.

I mean, it was clearly racist. But going by the reactions of the employees, I dont think we can completely discount there may have been physical provocations that might have triggered the escalation for why he pulled his gun out. But I guess well see what happens in court.

In the very same video the employee admitted he said that baselessly.

This is the transcript verbatim, let people interpret it as they will:

I said he pulled out for a reason, I didnt say why.

I didnt interpret it as him admitting to saying that baselessly, but hes aware he will escalate the situation further if he divulged his reasons. Thats just my take though. Hopefully he leaves those reasons for the courts to hear.
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It was definitely a messed up thing to do but it might have just been a lizard brain thing.
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Kazi1212 posted...

This is the transcript verbatim, let people interpret it as they will:

I said he pulled out for a reason, I didnt say why.

What does baseless mean to you?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

unobstructed

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I see a very short clip of multiple people going towards a single white dude while he is leaving.

The white dude pushes one of them back and continues to back up.

One of the kids says "What's up" and moves towards the white dude faster.

The white dude reacts by pulling out a gun.

The kid that said what's up and the same one that is approaching immediately backs off.

Fair, next.
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EpicKingdom_ posted...

I see a very short clip of multiple people going towards a single white dude.

The white dude pushes one of them back and continues to back up.

One of the kids says "What's up" and moves towards the white dude faster.

The white dude reacts by pulling out a gun.

The kid that said what's up and the same one that is approaching immediately backs off.

Fair, next.

ok

I didn't watch the video. based on this it sounds like the group wasn't as innocent as they want you to think. everyone involved helped escalate the situation. they all (even the white guy) should have just shut the fuck up and minded their own business

ModLogic posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

unobstructed

You notice how he was able to walk backwards, didn't turn to see where he was going or what was in his way, and without having anything hinder him? What does that mean to you?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

This is the transcript verbatim, let people interpret it as they will:

I said he pulled out for a reason, I didnt say why.

What does baseless mean to you?

Going by the usage in this context, having no reason for saying something. Let me elaborate myself, if youre saying baseless insofar he said theres a reason hen I agree with you, because obviously theres no reason to say that and hence baseless, he even catches himself doing that. What is probably not baseless is his genuine reaction that theres a reason and well have to see what the court rules to make a further assessment if the actual basis of the comment is baseless or not. Does that clarify?
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Sunburst posted...

Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.

I mean, it was clearly racist. But going by the reactions of the employees, I dont think we can completely discount there may have been physical provocations that might have triggered the escalation for why he pulled his gun out. But I guess well see what happens in court.

In the very same video the employee admitted he said that baselessly.

This is the transcript verbatim, let people interpret it as they will:

I said he pulled out for a reason, I didnt say why.

I didnt interpret it as him admitting to saying that baselessly, but hes aware he will escalate the situation further if he divulged his reasons. Thats just my take though. Hopefully he leaves those reasons for the courts to hear.

What makes you automatically give the guy with the gun the benefit of the doubt when you have no context...oh, except that another guy with context was there sticking up for the other people.

I mean, I will give more weight to the adult employees thoughts on the matter they witnessed than the teens who were directly involved in the incident. Maybe thats just me though
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A_Good_Boy posted...

ModLogic posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

unobstructed

You notice how he was able to walk backwards, didn't turn to see where he was going or what was in his way, and without having anything hinder him? What does that mean to you?

yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"
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Damn, I changed my mind about wanting to be in the argument lol. I was referring to the guy who checked the McDonald's worker that had even less to do with the situation. He literally had nothing to gain from speaking up. Except feel good about doing the right thing
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

might of

Lost_All_Senses posted...

might of

Stop it.
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Trash should've got his ass beat
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

might of

Lost_All_Senses posted...

might of

Stop it.

Eh, I take pride in acknowledging that none of us have all the facts. Im not hardheaded and don't think I know everything that happened based of a video with little context. You however, seem to pick a side and not think outside the box you put yourself in.
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Kazi1212 posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Sunburst posted...

Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.

I mean, it was clearly racist. But going by the reactions of the employees, I dont think we can completely discount there may have been physical provocations that might have triggered the escalation for why he pulled his gun out. But I guess well see what happens in court.

In the very same video the employee admitted he said that baselessly.

This is the transcript verbatim, let people interpret it as they will:

I said he pulled out for a reason, I didnt say why.

I didnt interpret it as him admitting to saying that baselessly, but hes aware he will escalate the situation further if he divulged his reasons. Thats just my take though. Hopefully he leaves those reasons for the courts to hear.

What makes you automatically give the guy with the gun the benefit of the doubt when you have no context...oh, except that another guy with context was there sticking up for the other people.

I mean, I will give more weight to the adult employees thoughts on the matter they witnessed than the teens who were directly involved in the incident. Maybe thats just me though

Who'd the cops arrest again? The kids?
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Sunburst posted...

Was this a racist hate crime, or a welfare hate crime? Probably both.

I mean, it was clearly racist. But going by the reactions of the employees, I dont think we can completely discount there may have been physical provocations that might have triggered the escalation for why he pulled his gun out. But I guess well see what happens in court.

In the very same video the employee admitted he said that baselessly.

This is the transcript verbatim, let people interpret it as they will:

I said he pulled out for a reason, I didnt say why.

I didnt interpret it as him admitting to saying that baselessly, but hes aware he will escalate the situation further if he divulged his reasons. Thats just my take though. Hopefully he leaves those reasons for the courts to hear.

What makes you automatically give the guy with the gun the benefit of the doubt when you have no context...oh, except that another guy with context was there sticking up for the other people.

I mean, I will give more weight to the adult employees thoughts on the matter they witnessed than the teens who were directly involved in the incident. Maybe thats just me though

Who'd the cops arrest again? The kids?

Im not sure what that has to do with anything I said, would you mind elaborating? Maybe Im just not getting your point, but thats why courts exist, even if the teens did nothing legally wrong, the man could have his original charge he was arrested with lowered if the witnesses in the incident(the employees) gives any reason for the courts to do so. But again, I may have missed your intent, definitely wouldnt mind a clarification on your point.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Wth

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Thankfully that other guy had their backs.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

a white guy was the bad guy in this situation

Lost_All_Senses posted...

an eroor of judgement.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

doing the right thing

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Eh, I take pride in acknowledging that none of us have all the facts. Im not hardheaded and don't think I know everything that happened based of a video with little context. You however, seem to pick a side and not think outside the box you put yourself in

I thought this was funny.

No comment on the topic at this time.

You couldn't picked of a more obvious way to post stuff out of context. And you didn't even make new context. It's just random sentences....like what's even hapoening right now
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Kazi1212 posted...

Im not sure what that has to do with anything I said, would you mind elaborating? Maybe Im just not getting your point, but thats why courts exist, even if the teens did nothing legally wrong, the man could have his original charge he was arrested with lowered if the witnesses in the incident(the employees) gives any reason for the courts to do so. But again, I may have missed your intent, definitely wouldnt mind a clarification on your point.

You're giving more weight to the testimony of the adults while ignoring that the racist adult was arrested and not the kids.

If the kids really brought this on themselves then why was the racist arrested days later and not the kids? Weird how the cops were able to find enough cause to arrest the racist, whereas the kids don't have a charge for disorderly conduct themselves. Why do you think that is?

What does baseless mean to you again,
I forgot.
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ModLogic posted...

yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.
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