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NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:09:22 AM #1:	For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here is the controversial article in question that Bill Maher wrote after Stan Lee's death. http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-blog.com/index/2018/11/16/adulting I think Bill Maher is implying that childish comic book movies becoming so popular with adults is showing that American culture has become puerile and dumbed down. I mean, he has a point; Comic book movies in fact do feel childish and it seems compared to other genres people are much more willing to overlook poor writing in comic books on the merit that its a comic book movie and they can do what they want. For example, in Spiderman 3 some dumb looking guy falls into some sand machine or whatever so he becomes an invincible sand man...cool story bro. That might be OK for a kids' story but the problem is these movies are extremely popular with adults and I think that shows Americans are caring less and less about subjects and ideas which require critical thinking and just want to hear whatever supports their biases and makes them feel good. Its not just Spiderman 3, the powers behind all of these super heroes are really poorly explained. Like with Captain America they give him tons of steroids but anyone who knows anything about anabolic steroids knows they can't be used long term without serious side effects and you can't just take them once and reap the benefits of them forever. I understand the "serum" they gave him isn't supposed to be the same thing but the fact that they don't explain what it is or how it works is literary laziness that only comic books seem to be able to get away with. I think he is right, only a country where people think comic books are important could elect a president like Donald Trump. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912673001] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here is the controversial article in question that Bill Maher wrote after Stan Lee's death. http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher-blog.com/index/2018/11/16/adulting I think Bill Maher is implying that childish comic book movies becoming so popular with adults is showing that American culture has become puerile and dumbed down. I mean, he has a point; Comic book movies in fact do feel childish and it seems compared to other genres people are much more willing to overlook poor writing in comic books on the merit that its a comic book movie and they can do what they want. For example, in Spiderman 3 some dumb looking guy falls into some sand machine or whatever so he becomes an invincible sand man...cool story bro. That might be OK for a kids' story but the problem is these movies are extremely popular with adults and I think that shows Americans are caring less and less about subjects and ideas which require critical thinking and just want to hear whatever supports their biases and makes them feel good. Its not just Spiderman 3, the powers behind all of these super heroes are really poorly explained. Like with Captain America they give him tons of steroids but anyone who knows anything about anabolic steroids knows they can't be used long term without serious side effects and you can't just take them once and reap the benefits of them forever. I understand the "serum" they gave him isn't supposed to be the same thing but the fact that they don't explain what it is or how it works is literary laziness that only comic books seem to be able to get away with. I think he is right, only a country where people think comic books are important could elect a president like Donald Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 11/19/18 11:10:54 AM #2:	explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way? --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:912673095] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaulJenkins 11/19/18 11:12:09 AM #3:	NovigradDrunk posted... only a country where people think comic books are important could elect a president like Donald Trump. i cant take this seriously --- Raul <cite>RaulJenkins posted [p:912673153] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>only a country where people think comic books are important could elect a president like Donald Trump. </quote> i cant take this seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 11/19/18 11:12:54 AM #4:	You complain about bad writing, and go straight to their powers dont make sense? Once you know anything about a subject, all fiction about that subject is clearly bulshitting. The realism of the mechanics are very rarely the point. You had a good premise but you gotta delete this and try again with a better argument --- Since I'm not popular, I'll post on GameFAQs. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:912673192] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>You complain about bad writing, and go straight to their powers dont make sense? Once you know anything about a subject, all fiction about that subject is clearly bulshitting. The realism of the mechanics are very rarely the point. You had a good premise but you gotta delete this and try again with a better argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/19/18 11:13:49 AM #5:	Bill Maher can go to hell He said that shit on the very day Stan Lee died. Fuck him <cite>Zikten posted [p:912673245] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>Bill Maher can go to hell He said that shit on the very day Stan Lee died. Fuck him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 11/19/18 11:14:07 AM #6:	You realize Bill Mahr is trolling and saying edgy shit to russle jimmies and stay relevant right? Neil Gaiman said it best More people cared about Stan Lees death than care about Bill Maher alive. <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:912673263] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>You realize Bill Mahr is trolling and saying edgy shit to russle jimmies and stay relevant right? Neil Gaiman said it best More people cared about Stan Lees death than care about Bill Maher alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 11/19/18 11:14:08 AM #7:	Dont feed the alt --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:912673264] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>Dont feed the alt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/19/18 11:14:15 AM #8:	A person made millions happy during his lifetime and had an inarguably humongous impact on global popular culture and as a result people are sad after he died. Let's complain about it! That's just being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag even by Maher's standards. He's just sad that his second rate career will be forgotten well within a generation of his death while Lee's will probably be remembered for generations to come. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:912673271] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>A person made millions happy during his lifetime and had an inarguably humongous impact on global popular culture and as a result people are sad after he died. Let's complain about it! That's just being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag even by Maher's standards. He's just sad that his second rate career will be forgotten well within a generation of his death while Lee's will probably be remembered for generations to come.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 11/19/18 11:14:28 AM #9:	If you're still watching capeshit in 2018 there's no hope for you anyway that was a good blog post XD --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:912673287] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>If you're still watching capeshit in 2018 there's no hope for you anyway that was a good blog post XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/19/18 11:14:42 AM #10:	tl;dr "Stop liking what I don't like!!" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:912673300] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr "Stop liking what I don't like!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 11/19/18 11:15:28 AM #11:	The Trent posted... explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way? Paul Newmans the Hustler and the color of money is more true to life, relevant and meaningful then spidey dude.....and if it has to be explained too you 'why' then you'll just never get it.....stick to world of Warcraft and dbz dude, the adults are talking. --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:912673338] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote>explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way?</quote> Paul Newmans the Hustler and the color of money is more true to life, relevant and meaningful then spidey dude.....and if it has to be explained too you 'why' then you'll just never get it.....stick to world of Warcraft and dbz dude, the adults are talking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/19/18 11:16:13 AM #12:	Roxborough4Ever posted... The Trent posted... explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way? Paul Newmans the Hustler and the color of money is more true to life, relevant and meaningful then spidey dude.....and if it has to be explained too you 'why' then you'll just never get it.....stick to world of Warcraft and dbz dude, the adults are talking. Mythology is not true to life. It's not supposed to be <cite>Zikten posted [p:912673380] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote>explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way?</quote> Paul Newmans the Hustler and the color of money is more true to life, relevant and meaningful then spidey dude.....and if it has to be explained too you 'why' then you'll just never get it.....stick to world of Warcraft and dbz dude, the adults are talking.</quote> Mythology is not true to life. It's not supposed to be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 11/19/18 11:16:15 AM #13:	I wonder if this is a new acco- Yep. --- https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/LkrRVe2 https://imgur.com/Dp03g3y Born to Ill <cite>Kitt posted [p:912673383] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if this is a new acco- Yep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:16:39 AM #14:	The Trent posted... explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way? Because they always follow certain tropes and cliches that are deliberately dumbed down and simplistic which make them feel more appropriate towards kids. As far as I know there has never been a literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912673401] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote>explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way?</quote> Because they always follow certain tropes and cliches that are deliberately dumbed down and simplistic which make them feel more appropriate towards kids. As far as I know there has never been a literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/19/18 11:17:30 AM #15:	One is only mature when they stop caring about looking mature. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:912673447] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>One is only mature when they stop caring about looking mature.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:18:21 AM #16:	Bill Maher isn't trashing on Stan Lee here in my opinion, he's trashing on adults who refuse to grow up and still consider comic books to be serious literature when they're obviously meant for kids who aren't well read enough to see how silly they are. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912673478] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>Bill Maher isn't trashing on Stan Lee here in my opinion, he's trashing on adults who refuse to grow up and still consider comic books to be serious literature when they're obviously meant for kids who aren't well read enough to see how silly they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:20:02 AM #17:	Zikten posted... Roxborough4Ever posted... The Trent posted... explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way? Paul Newmans the Hustler and the color of money is more true to life, relevant and meaningful then spidey dude.....and if it has to be explained too you 'why' then you'll just never get it.....stick to world of Warcraft and dbz dude, the adults are talking. Mythology is not true to life. It's not supposed to be That doesn't relieve writers of their responsibility to incorporate logic in the world's they create. Most of these comic book stories take place in a universe which is similar enough to our own and thus should be bound by the same rules, yet nothing is properly explained and nothing makes sense. Basically, anything goes. People can have witch powers, turn into green giants, take steroids with no side effects, and have magic suits with infinite power. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912673570] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Trent posted...</cite> <quote>explain how comic books differ from mythological type stories in any tangible way?</quote> Paul Newmans the Hustler and the color of money is more true to life, relevant and meaningful then spidey dude.....and if it has to be explained too you 'why' then you'll just never get it.....stick to world of Warcraft and dbz dude, the adults are talking.</quote> Mythology is not true to life. It's not supposed to be</quote> That doesn't relieve writers of their responsibility to incorporate logic in the world's they create. Most of these comic book stories take place in a universe which is similar enough to our own and thus should be bound by the same rules, yet nothing is properly explained and nothing makes sense. Basically, anything goes. People can have witch powers, turn into green giants, take steroids with no side effects, and have magic suits with infinite power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 11/19/18 11:20:09 AM #18:	Listening to Bill maher rambling is childish and yet --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Square Enix Defense Force <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:912673573] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>Listening to Bill maher rambling is childish and yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/19/18 11:20:31 AM #19:	NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:912673588] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 11/19/18 11:21:13 AM #20:	New user(7) --- It's the internet, quit your crying <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:912673622] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>New user(7)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 11/19/18 11:21:14 AM #21:	NovigradDrunk posted... I think Bill Maher is implying that childish comic book movies becoming so popular with adults is showing that American culture has become puerile and dumbed down. I mean, he has a point; Comic book movies in fact do feel childish and it seems compared to other genres people are much more willing to overlook poor writing in comic books on the merit that its a comic book movie and they can do what they want. imagine thinking that your choice in mass market pop culture garbage elevates you in any way above someone else --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:912673624] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>I think Bill Maher is implying that childish comic book movies becoming so popular with adults is showing that American culture has become puerile and dumbed down. I mean, he has a point; Comic book movies in fact do feel childish and it seems compared to other genres people are much more willing to overlook poor writing in comic books on the merit that its a comic book movie and they can do what they want. </quote> imagine thinking that your choice in mass market pop culture garbage elevates you in any way above someone else</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 11/19/18 11:21:43 AM #22:	I still don't get how the infinity snap works. He could snap his fingers and every woman in the world dies. Otherwise there's some mechanism that chooses who lives and dies and I want to know more about that --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:912673651] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>I still don't get how the infinity snap works. He could snap his fingers and every woman in the world dies. Otherwise there's some mechanism that chooses who lives and dies and I want to know more about that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Harpuia 11/19/18 11:21:54 AM #23:	It's all that fluoride they're putting in the water <cite>Harpuia posted [p:912673663] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>It's all that fluoride they're putting in the water</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/19/18 11:22:36 AM #24:	NovigradDrunk posted... Bill Maher isn't trashing on Stan Lee here in my opinion, he's trashing on adults who refuse to grow up and still consider comic books to be serious literature when they're obviously meant for kids who aren't well read enough to see how silly they are. Who are these people? Comic readership is pitifully tiny, not even 1% of the adult population. And of that tiny subset, only a small subset are some kind of pathetic comic book nerd stereotype. The vast majority have fond memories as kids reading comic books or from cartoons based on Lee's works or on the biggest entertainment franchise ever based on his works. And of movies, dumb action blockbusters have been huge for generations. Big whoop, popcorn flicks make money. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:912673705] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Maher isn't trashing on Stan Lee here in my opinion, he's trashing on adults who refuse to grow up and still consider comic books to be serious literature when they're obviously meant for kids who aren't well read enough to see how silly they are.</quote> Who are these people? Comic readership is pitifully tiny, not even 1% of the adult population. And of that tiny subset, only a small subset are some kind of pathetic comic book nerd stereotype. The vast majority have fond memories as kids reading comic books or from cartoons based on Lee's works or on the biggest entertainment franchise ever based on his works. And of movies, dumb action blockbusters have been huge for generations. Big whoop, popcorn flicks make money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 11/19/18 11:22:59 AM #25:	I've said it before. Donald Trump wasn't elected by a country that considers comic books important. Donald Trump was elected by a country that considers sports important. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:912673728] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>I've said it before. Donald Trump wasn't elected by a country that considers comic books important. Donald Trump was elected by a country that considers sports important.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:24:53 AM #26:	Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912673824] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:26:08 AM #27:	rikasa posted... I still don't get how the infinity snap works. He could snap his fingers and every woman in the world dies. Otherwise there's some mechanism that chooses who lives and dies and I want to know more about that You're not supposed to question it, its a COMIC BOOK movie, remember! They don't have to explain things or make sense, got it!? <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912673874] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't get how the infinity snap works. He could snap his fingers and every woman in the world dies. Otherwise there's some mechanism that chooses who lives and dies and I want to know more about that</quote> You're not supposed to question it, its a COMIC BOOK movie, remember! They don't have to explain things or make sense, got it!?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 11/19/18 11:26:22 AM #28:	The biggest reason comic book movies are popular among adults is because they grew up reading the books and they get to see those stories brought to life. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:Paters1 IGN:SuperPattyCakes <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:912673885] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>The biggest reason comic book movies are popular among adults is because they grew up reading the books and they get to see those stories brought to life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayerblade11 11/19/18 11:26:28 AM #29:	NovigradDrunk posted... Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed? <cite>Slayerblade11 posted [p:912673888] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SchoolForAnts 11/19/18 11:26:52 AM #30:	Of course comics and comic book movies are dumb. Its not like slapstick stuff like I Love Lucy, The 3 Stooges, and the like were paragons of intellectual pursuit back in the day. Yeah people now watch a guy in a spider suit beat a CGI villain. So? People back in the day watched a dude in black face overact stuff. <cite>SchoolForAnts posted [p:912673905] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>Of course comics and comic book movies are dumb. Its not like slapstick stuff like I Love Lucy, The 3 Stooges, and the like were paragons of intellectual pursuit back in the day. Yeah people now watch a guy in a spider suit beat a CGI villain. So? People back in the day watched a dude in black face overact stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/19/18 11:26:57 AM #31:	NovigradDrunk posted... Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. What the fuck are you even talking about --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:912673910] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. </quote> What the fuck are you even talking about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/19/18 11:27:05 AM #32:	NovigradDrunk posted... Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. And Dick Tracy and Flash Gordon were both bigger than Fahrenheit 451 when it first came out. Lee isn't the cause of mass pop culture. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:912673920] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> And Dick Tracy and Flash Gordon were both bigger than Fahrenheit 451 when it first came out. Lee isn't the cause of mass pop culture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/19/18 11:27:59 AM #33:	Slayerblade11 posted... NovigradDrunk posted... Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things who would have guessed? The only thing leading to the extinction of books is the internet, and even that won't do it. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:912673976] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>Slayerblade11 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things who would have guessed?</quote> The only thing leading to the extinction of books is the internet, and even that won't do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:29:12 AM #34:	IfGodCouldDie posted... The biggest reason comic book movies are popular among adults is because they grew up reading the books and they get to see those stories brought to life. I find that hard to believe, as a kid comic books were a bit of a niche thing; strictly in the nerd territory that had a small but dedicated fan base. Yet today, comic book movies are the ultimate block busters that everybody watches and loves. I doubt the majority of those people grew up reading comic books. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912674031] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>The biggest reason comic book movies are popular among adults is because they grew up reading the books and they get to see those stories brought to life.</quote> I find that hard to believe, as a kid comic books were a bit of a niche thing; strictly in the nerd territory that had a small but dedicated fan base. Yet today, comic book movies are the ultimate block busters that everybody watches and loves. I doubt the majority of those people grew up reading comic books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 11/19/18 11:29:48 AM #35:	Yeah, idk. That was like the one plot point that sounded interesting in all these movies, the way the infinity snap worked, but apparently they don't go into detail about it at all. Hobbies that have some kind of mastery or ladder to climb are just better. You learn something or you get better at something. If your hobby is just passively consuming the exact same content over and over you don't get to defend it. You can enjoy it but don't defend it --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:912674062] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, idk. That was like the one plot point that sounded interesting in all these movies, the way the infinity snap worked, but apparently they don't go into detail about it at all. Hobbies that have some kind of mastery or ladder to climb are just better. You learn something or you get better at something. If your hobby is just passively consuming the exact same content over and over you don't get to defend it. You can enjoy it but don't defend it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/19/18 11:29:54 AM #36:	the thing I always wonder is wtf was so deep about the sound of music and the other crap we used to like? --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:912674066] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>the thing I always wonder is wtf was so deep about the sound of music and the other crap we used to like?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:30:39 AM #37:	Slayerblade11 posted... NovigradDrunk posted... Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed? The fact that Americans adults find stories for kids more entertaining than thought provoking novels which are meant for adults is exactly what Bill Maher was talking in his blog post. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912674098] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>Slayerblade11 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed?</quote> The fact that Americans adults find stories for kids more entertaining than thought provoking novels which are meant for adults is exactly what Bill Maher was talking in his blog post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/19/18 11:31:02 AM #38:	NovigradDrunk posted... I doubt the majority of those people grew up reading comic books. No, but there's been several generations now who grew up watching reruns of 60s Batman, 70s Wonder Woman, and 80s Hulk, as well as the 90s Batman and X-Men cartoons. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:912674114] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote> I doubt the majority of those people grew up reading comic books. </quote> No, but there's been several generations now who grew up watching reruns of 60s Batman, 70s Wonder Woman, and 80s Hulk, as well as the 90s Batman and X-Men cartoons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 11/19/18 11:31:40 AM #39:	musicals were basically the superhero movies of old. the sound of music is like the best of the best from back then. But musicals were a dime and dozen and milked like crazy by the film execs of the day until the trend just died, both cuz of changing times and massively inflated movie budgets --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:912674144] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>musicals were basically the superhero movies of old. the sound of music is like the best of the best from back then. But musicals were a dime and dozen and milked like crazy by the film execs of the day until the trend just died, both cuz of changing times and massively inflated movie budgets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SchoolForAnts 11/19/18 11:31:42 AM #40:	NovigradDrunk posted... Slayerblade11 posted... NovigradDrunk posted... Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed? The fact that Americans adults find stories for kids more entertaining than thought provoking novels which are meant for adults is exactly what Bill Maher was talking in his blog post. Again, you act as if grown ups didnt watch the 3 stooges or or I love Lucy in the past <cite>SchoolForAnts posted [p:912674150] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Slayerblade11 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed?</quote> The fact that Americans adults find stories for kids more entertaining than thought provoking novels which are meant for adults is exactly what Bill Maher was talking in his blog post.</quote> Again, you act as if grown ups didnt watch the 3 stooges or or I love Lucy in the past</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBiggerWiggle 11/19/18 11:36:58 AM #42:	> 7 karma > 37 active posts --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:912674420] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>> 7 karma > 37 active posts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 11/19/18 11:37:03 AM #43:	whining about comic book movie adoration is such is stupid take. Newsflash: something being popular doesnt preclude one from enjoying other things. It's like bitching about the rise of reality TV. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:912674427] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>whining about comic book movie adoration is such is stupid take. Newsflash: something being popular doesnt preclude one from enjoying other things. It's like bitching about the rise of reality TV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 11/19/18 11:40:48 AM #44:	it's just pretentious like yeah, comic book movies are childish and full of bad writing. that sums up blockbusters for decades it's like comparing a fast food cheeseburger to a 5 star steak. yeah one is better than the other objectively, but that doesn't mean I have shit taste when I crave the greasy burger joint you can like the well written, acted, directed, etc. films with great cinematography at the same time as enjoying a dumb movie with a robot army attacking a city defended by men in tights --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:912674609] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote>it's just pretentious like yeah, comic book movies are childish and full of bad writing. that sums up blockbusters for decades it's like comparing a fast food cheeseburger to a 5 star steak. yeah one is better than the other objectively, but that doesn't mean I have shit taste when I crave the greasy burger joint you can like the well written, acted, directed, etc. films with great cinematography at the same time as enjoying a dumb movie with a robot army attacking a city defended by men in tights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/19/18 11:42:09 AM #45:	FrisbeeDude posted... whining about comic book movie adoration is such is stupid take. Newsflash: something being popular doesnt preclude one from enjoying other things. It's like bitching about the rise of reality TV. There's more reason to complain about reality TV, tbh, just because it's cheaper than making scripted television so during its rise it was actually taking away spots from non-reality television. Superhero movies just compete with other big budget action movies. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:912674689] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>whining about comic book movie adoration is such is stupid take. Newsflash: something being popular doesnt preclude one from enjoying other things. It's like bitching about the rise of reality TV.</quote> There's more reason to complain about reality TV, tbh, just because it's cheaper than making scripted television so during its rise it was actually taking away spots from non-reality television. Superhero movies just compete with other big budget action movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/19/18 11:44:09 AM #46:	prince_leo posted... it's just pretentious like yeah, comic book movies are childish and full of bad writing. that sums up blockbusters for decades it's like comparing a fast food cheeseburger to a 5 star steak. yeah one is better than the other objectively, but that doesn't mean I have shit taste when I crave the greasy burger joint you can like the well written, acted, directed, etc. films with great cinematography at the same time as enjoying a dumb movie with a robot army attacking a city defended by men in tights I mean my take away is more that despite my lowbrow tastes I have no trouble adulting or whatever and I don't see how my lowbrow tastes ought to be put up to scrutiny when everyone else gets a pass --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:912674785] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>it's just pretentious like yeah, comic book movies are childish and full of bad writing. that sums up blockbusters for decades it's like comparing a fast food cheeseburger to a 5 star steak. yeah one is better than the other objectively, but that doesn't mean I have shit taste when I crave the greasy burger joint you can like the well written, acted, directed, etc. films with great cinematography at the same time as enjoying a dumb movie with a robot army attacking a city defended by men in tights</quote> I mean my take away is more that despite my lowbrow tastes I have no trouble adulting or whatever and I don't see how my lowbrow tastes ought to be put up to scrutiny when everyone else gets a pass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 11/19/18 11:45:34 AM #47:	Balrog0 posted... I mean my take away is more that despite my lowbrow tastes I have no trouble adulting or whatever and I don't see how my lowbrow tastes ought to be put up to scrutiny when everyone else gets a pass that's also a good point, my post was more a response to the claim that american culture is dumbing down --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:912674883] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean my take away is more that despite my lowbrow tastes I have no trouble adulting or whatever and I don't see how my lowbrow tastes ought to be put up to scrutiny when everyone else gets a pass</quote> that's also a good point, my post was more a response to the claim that american culture is dumbing down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 11/19/18 11:49:23 AM #48:	NovigradDrunk posted... The fact that they don't explain what it is or how it works is literary laziness that only comic books seem to be able to get away with. Contrast this to Jedi, Harry Potter wizards, It, half the shit in Star Trek -- you're mistaken. Its the entire scifi/fantasy genre, especially ones adapted from books. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:912675096] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that they don't explain what it is or how it works is literary laziness that only comic books seem to be able to get away with.</quote> Contrast this to Jedi, Harry Potter wizards, It, half the shit in Star Trek -- you're mistaken. Its the entire scifi/fantasy genre, especially ones adapted from books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/19/18 11:50:31 AM #49:	prince_leo posted... Balrog0 posted... I mean my take away is more that despite my lowbrow tastes I have no trouble adulting or whatever and I don't see how my lowbrow tastes ought to be put up to scrutiny when everyone else gets a pass that's also a good point, my post was more a response to the claim that american culture is dumbing down yeah I meant my post more as an addon to yours not really meant as disagreement, sorry if that wasn't clear --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:912675153] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean my take away is more that despite my lowbrow tastes I have no trouble adulting or whatever and I don't see how my lowbrow tastes ought to be put up to scrutiny when everyone else gets a pass</quote> that's also a good point, my post was more a response to the claim that american culture is dumbing down</quote> yeah I meant my post more as an addon to yours not really meant as disagreement, sorry if that wasn't clear</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NovigradDrunk 11/19/18 11:50:54 AM #50:	SchoolForAnts posted... NovigradDrunk posted... Slayerblade11 posted... NovigradDrunk posted... Doom_Art posted... NovigradDrunk posted... literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form. I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary. Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed? The fact that Americans adults find stories for kids more entertaining than thought provoking novels which are meant for adults is exactly what Bill Maher was talking in his blog post. Again, you act as if grown ups didnt watch the 3 stooges or or I love Lucy in the past Those weren't as childish as comic book movies. They were humble, light hearted shows that weren't meant to be taken seriously. Comic book movies are highly pretentious and people actually do take them seriously. You didn't see grown men dressing up as Larry, Mo, and Curly the way you see adults dressing up as superheroes today. <cite>NovigradDrunk posted [p:912675167] in I actually... [t:77217644]...</cite> <quote><cite>SchoolForAnts posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Slayerblade11 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NovigradDrunk posted...</cite> <quote>literary equivalent to something like Fahrenheit 451 in comic book form.</quote> I can think of several graphic novels and comic stories that I'd put up with some books</quote> Yet The Avengers is infinitely more well known and popular in American culture than Fahrenheit 451. So much so that book stores are becoming extinct yet Hollywood keeps pumping out this comic book trash and they keep making billions. That is scary.</quote> Fun things sell more and are more appealing than unfun things. Who would have guessed?</quote> The fact that Americans adults find stories for kids more entertaining than thought provoking novels which are meant for adults is exactly what Bill Maher was talking in his blog post.</quote> Again, you act as if grown ups didnt watch the 3 stooges or or I love Lucy in the past</quote> Those weren't as childish as comic book movies. They were humble, light hearted shows that weren't meant to be taken seriously. Comic book movies are highly pretentious and people actually do take them seriously. You didn't see grown men dressing up as Larry, Mo, and Curly the way you see adults dressing up as superheroes today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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