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KamikazePotato 11/15/18 11:33:42 PM #351: |
I think the Peru votes were estimated at being like 80-15 in MMX's favor last time Luster ran the numbers.
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LapisLazuli 11/15/18 11:33:47 PM #352: |
I don't know how to post on Reddit.
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Lopen 11/15/18 11:34:18 PM #353: |
Wait did BlAcK_TuRtLE pick Weaker over Lloyd back in the day because it'd explain so much
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ShatteredElysium 11/15/18 11:34:24 PM #354: |
creativename posted...
Regarding the Peru VPN stuff - while the Peru percent may indicate the attempted VPN stuffing attempts worked, thats not necessarily the case. The issue is that Peru votes heavily one way in every match though. At least that's what Luster said when he brought it up. Like we aren't talking 60/40s here, it was like 80-90 from what Luster said. I'm sure he can provide more details So it isn't that they were necessarily stuffing for MMX as they are doing it in every match for one character or another. It's just weird and this is the first match where it was close enough to matter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 11/15/18 11:35:13 PM #355: |
Lopen that is a quality typo can i use it in the future
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INTERWEBUSER 11/15/18 11:35:17 PM #356: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
At this point who fucking cares, yet another contest has been ruined by the rally crew. Even with the registered voter bonus, these contests are impossible to run in 2018, with all the porno subreddits and shitty Twitch streamers that offer an endless pool of votes for the degenerates on Board 8 like ExTha and Leon. Agreed, the basement dwelling perverts are pathetic people. The best way to snuff out rallies is to just hide the percentages until the next poll has started --- PLAYSTATION 4: Best Console Ever | ROCKSTAR: Best Developer Ever Trolling (v.): Posting an opinion that differs from yours ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 11/15/18 11:35:37 PM #357: |
i don't know when i'd use it but i'm sure we'll get like wesker vs. pichu down the line
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creativename 11/15/18 11:35:48 PM #358: |
ZenOfThunder posted...
Its funny how everyone focuses on the Tifa hentai rallies that got no upvotes or views and not the fairly successful MMX rally or exthas actual tifa rally So it may not have been the hentai rallies, but some other ExTha rally? What other rally was this, and how did the threads compare in upvotes and comments? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 11/15/18 11:37:10 PM #359: |
creativename posted...
So it may not have been the hentai rallies, but some other ExTha rally? Alright so I made my rally on the FF subreddit in the early afternoon. At some point (AFTER 5pm) someone linked to it on the FF Record Keeper subreddit. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/15/18 11:38:21 PM #360: |
Also Tifa was dominating across Europe, Asia and Australia
I know they represent a smaller portion of the site's traffic and it was bed time for some of those areas, but still it starts to add up eventually. America got a big chunk of its registered user votes out of the way in the first 7-8 hours anyway --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShatteredElysium 11/15/18 11:38:23 PM #361: |
haloiscoolisbak posted...
I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off And this is why I don't feel the Tifa rallies were unfair. I'd understand if MMX wasn't being rallied and the Tifa rally swinging it for her but if not for the MMX rally in the first place, Tifa likely wins without rallying. The Tifa rallies were basically retaliation to the MMX rally that was substantial. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/15/18 11:38:50 PM #362: |
KamikazePotato posted...
I think the Peru votes were estimated at being like 80-15 in MMX's favor last time Luster ran the numbers. Seems reasonable given everything we know about Mega Man performance in South America. With all these comments about 'they did the math' I was expecting a 200-10 number to be what raised suspicions. Why would anyone go through the trouble of stuffing votes, but stop at 30 or so? If you assume Tifa naturally got those 15 votes, and based on everything we know, MM going 80-20 in South America is realistic, how many of those 80 votes are people claiming were 'stuffed'? --- BKSheikah, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/15/18 11:39:02 PM #363: |
I mean when both sides have rallies all you can do is just fold your hands and not enjoy it at all
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Lopen 11/15/18 11:39:44 PM #364: |
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Lopen that is a quality typo can i use it in the future Haha that's awesome. My phone is truly smart sometimes --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/15/18 11:40:40 PM #365: |
ShatteredElysium posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off Everyone keeps quoting this '1.7k views' number, but what does that actually mean? THere were only 52 comments, and 176 upvotes. Even if you assume a 100% conversion on the upvotes, that doesn't account for the 500 or so rally votes Tifa brought in from the hentai subs. --- BKSheikah, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 11/15/18 11:41:31 PM #366: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Everyone keeps quoting this '1.7k views' number, but what does that actually mean? THere were only 52 comments, and 176 upvotes. Even if you assume a 100% conversion on the upvotes, that doesn't account for the 500 or so rally votes Tifa brought in from the hentai subs. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO okay now I know you're trolling because my rally thread on the FF subreddit had 19 upvotes when I last checked it. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroicSpiderPig 11/15/18 11:41:35 PM #367: |
Just to be clear, aren't the Peru stuffer and the VPN stuffer different issues? I think people are mistakenly conflating them. The possible VPN stuffer was brought up fairly early (Monika Vs. Wario maybe) and the Peru thing is from Draven's match.
Not sure that Peru's results in this last match really point to anything though. 86.36% seems like a low number for a stuffing inflected result. Cirno's number when she was caught for example was 99.95 or something like that. Peru has to have a low enough voting base that even tens of MMX votes should be throwing things off by more. --- Yesmar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 11/15/18 11:41:38 PM #368: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Why would anyone go through the trouble of stuffing votes, but stop at 30 or so? If you're doing something as basic as using a VPN the ip pool isn't limitless --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/15/18 11:42:25 PM #369: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off My point was MMX benefitted from rallies first They drew first blood. --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/15/18 11:42:55 PM #370: |
the real point is Mega Man X is a fraud
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creativename 11/15/18 11:43:17 PM #371: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
HaRRicH posted...I voted Tifa > MMX and don't mind her hurting my bracket. The way she won is worth a laugh too. It's just disappointment in ExTha backtracking on how he feels about rallies. What match was this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 11/15/18 11:43:42 PM #372: |
okay so when leon gloated about FRAUDS it led to squall getting slaughtered
who is ready for the boss > snake --- https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/15/18 11:43:59 PM #373: |
creativename posted...
What match was this? The Joker/Claire match in round 1. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/15/18 11:44:34 PM #374: |
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
okay so when leon gloated about FRAUDS it led to squall getting slaughtered Tifa is the only joy I have left --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 11/15/18 11:44:43 PM #375: |
creativename posted...
What match was this? Red vs. Sora --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 11/15/18 11:44:55 PM #376: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Tifa is the only joy I have left Luigi sends his regards --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/15/18 11:45:49 PM #377: |
oh right I forgot there was a rally argument in that match too LOL
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WarThaNemesis2 11/15/18 11:45:54 PM #378: |
LeonhartFour posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...okay so when leon gloated about FRAUDS it led to squall getting slaughtered well it sounds like for all his SJW commenting, BT is Antifa --- https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/15/18 11:46:07 PM #379: |
Also, you can assume I think with some certainty basically every rally thread upvoter definitely also bothered to vote for MMX you're looking at 176 votes at the absolute minimum. Then from the 1.7k views it could have been hundreds more
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ShatteredElysium 11/15/18 11:46:39 PM #380: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off When you look at the individual updates towards the end, it is clear both sides were benefitting from rallies. They were both getting substantially more votes in the final 2 hours than they did in their previous matches whereas they should have been getting less due facing stronger opposition. You're saying Tifa got 500 extra votes and acting like MMX didn't get similar amounts. You don't go from 20-30 vote updates against Isabelle/Ocelot to 50-60 vote updates against Tifa in the same time frame without outside help. They both got a ton of help down the stretch. Maybe Tifa got more than MMX during that stretch but there was periods earlier in the day where MMX was benefitting from the substantial rally and Tifa was not since her rallies started at the end of the match. So it likely evens out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/15/18 11:50:56 PM #381: |
ShatteredElysium posted...
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...ShatteredElysium posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off 1) Stronger characters naturally bring in higher votals, so comparing the per update votes to Round 1/2 blowouts is meaningless 2) Close matches also naturally bring in higher votals 3) The MMX 'rally' was posted early this morning, when Tifa was still rolling strong. There weren't any MMX rallies posted towards the end of the match, if we assume the hentai perverts had a 70-30 bias towards Tifa, we can assume that MMX was en route to a 300-400 vote win before that kicked in --- BKSheikah, my hat is off to you. Welcome to the Guru Champions Club lol xstats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativename 11/15/18 11:51:32 PM #382: |
Lopen posted...
I think there are a few lines to draw when disliking vs liking rallies Id add, is it a counter-rally? I see no problem with small-scale counter rallies. If X rallied first, and neither rally drowned the other, and the votes seem to be legit - who gives a crap? Thats just a fun match. People seem to be conflating different kinds of rallies for the sake of...agendas is the best way I can put it, LOL! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/15/18 11:52:13 PM #383: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...ShatteredElysium posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off How does point 2 work? --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 11/15/18 11:55:21 PM #384: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
we can assume that MMX was en route to a 300-400 vote win before that kicked in There was never ever anything to support X getting more than like 50-100 vote squeaker other than your woeful misunderstanding of how match trends work --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShatteredElysium 11/15/18 11:57:32 PM #385: |
The MMX rally being posted early and being prominent all day just means it got even more visibility and brought in more votes. Rally threads like that on reddit pick up steam from being visible all day. Without it Tifa may have built up a massive lead that MMX was never able to reel back in.
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KamikazePotato 11/15/18 11:58:02 PM #386: |
Jesus tapdancing Christ, is BT still having a meltdown? Is it 2008 again?
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ExThaNemesis 11/16/18 12:00:03 AM #387: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Jesus tapdancing Christ, is BT still having a meltdown? Is it 2008 again? It's like a christmas gift, in that it will continue happening well through the holidays. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativename 11/16/18 12:02:10 AM #388: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
Nanis23 posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...I'm not sure what the worst part of that match was: Awww shnap!! @Nanis23 Perfection. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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abdou 11/16/18 12:02:11 AM #389: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...BlAcK TuRtLe posted...ShatteredElysium posted...haloiscoolisbak posted...I'm definitely not pro rally, but when I saw Tifas lead crumble and a 1.7k viewed MMX reddit rally post appeared, easily the most successful attempt at a rally this contest, all bets were off You really have something against hentai fans don't you? LOL . arguing for hours on gamefaqs about a characters popularity contest but you demean others for looking at hentai, not sure if that's funny or sad. Tifa was rallied and she won as a result, just get over it. Luigi will probably beat her next round. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 11/16/18 12:03:58 AM #390: |
abdou posted...
Luigi will probably beat her next round. but will he really? I think there's a decent chance Tifa picks up a bandwagon as a result of the last couple rounds and she might have beaten Luigi anyway --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 11/16/18 12:04:36 AM #391: |
Luigi will 54-46 Tifa book it
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pjbasis 11/16/18 12:05:30 AM #392: |
Guess that's that for a Vivi upset.
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heroicmario 11/16/18 12:05:34 AM #393: |
Pikachu laying it down, Ganondorf getting revenge for Mario. Im good with these results!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/16/18 12:05:52 AM #394: |
Luigi won't get demolished in Europe at least
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BlAcK TuRtLe 11/16/18 12:05:53 AM #395: |
There's not a chance Luigi wins next round. The Tifa/MMX winner was always going to win that division. Especially now that ExTha knows he can successfully rally hentai websites
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LeonhartFour 11/16/18 12:06:12 AM #396: |
heroicmario posted...
Pikachu laying it down, Ganondorf getting revenge for Mario. Im good with these results! I mean it was partially Ganondorf's fault Mario lost...! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/16/18 12:06:40 AM #397: |
LeonhartFour posted...
abdou posted...Luigi will probably beat her next round. Didn't you have Luigi over Sephiroth in your bracket? --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 11/16/18 12:06:40 AM #398: |
I hate the most vocal proponents of both sides of this argument, so I have no horse.
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Lopen 11/16/18 12:07:04 AM #399: |
Still delusional about MMX's strength
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LeonhartFour 11/16/18 12:07:34 AM #400: |
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Didn't you have Luigi over Sephiroth in your bracket? I do but I always thought Tifa/Luigi could go either way I just thought Luigi's ceiling was higher --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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