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SwayM
11/12/18 5:24:44 PM
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Pretty boring
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Lordgold666
11/12/18 5:28:19 PM
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Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without
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Roxborough4Ever
11/12/18 5:33:05 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


no dude, if you can't play with the items you don't have any "skill"
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PiOverlord
11/12/18 5:33:54 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


no dude, if you can't play with the items you don't have any "skill"

A person who can beat you without items will kill you with items.
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Lordgold666
11/12/18 5:35:00 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


no dude, if you can't play with the items you don't have any "skill"

I dont have any skill in smash bros either way

Just sayin, i can whoop my boys who play this religiously whenever i get lucky w an item spawn

I never win w items disabled
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Polycosm
11/12/18 5:41:26 PM
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Playing Smash without items is like eating a pepperoni pizza. There are more exciting pizzas out there-- supreme, meat-lovers, bbq, pesto and garlic, etc-- but sometimes you get a craving for the classic and you just want to savor it in its purest form.
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s0nicfan
11/12/18 5:44:07 PM
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And in this analogy some toppings randomly cause the pizza to explode right before you take a bite.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
11/12/18 5:44:41 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


no dude, if you can't play with the items you don't have any "skill"

I dont have any skill in smash bros either way

Just sayin, i can whoop my boys who play this religiously whenever i get lucky w an item spawn

I never win w items disabled

So you agree that it's more fun with items?
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K181
11/12/18 5:45:24 PM
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A good cheese pizza is good from time to time.

And by time to time, I mean Fridays in Lent when you remember and care about that and feel like having pizza that day.
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AlisLandale
11/12/18 5:46:07 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


So can an unskilled person with items beat a skilled person without items? Mhmm? Lol
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K181
11/12/18 5:49:36 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
people still do lent

K181 posted...
A good cheese pizza is good from time to time.

And by time to time, I mean Fridays in Lent when you remember and care about that and feel like having pizza that day.

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K181
11/12/18 5:58:07 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
people still care about that


Poster: here's an especially narrow circumstance when you can like something, obviously to emphasize that liking something is almost never okay.
Other poster: dur, people do that?
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Pancake
11/12/18 5:59:48 PM
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the opposite is true. items-on smash is literally the bland cheese pizza you get from a catering company. it's made so nobody gets upset, but everyone gets pizza.

a beer analogy might be better. items-on is bud light. items-free is kentucky breakfast stout.
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Alpha218
11/12/18 6:00:02 PM
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Playing Smash with items is like eating a pizza with toppings... except the toppings are pineapple
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Notti
11/12/18 6:09:43 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Playing Smash with items is like eating a pizza with toppings... except the toppings are pineapple


s0nicfan posted...
And in this analogy some toppings randomly cause the pizza to explode right before you take a bite.


Ya, I'd go with this.

Lordgold666 posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


no dude, if you can't play with the items you don't have any "skill"

I dont have any skill in smash bros either way

Just sayin, i can whoop my boys who play this religiously whenever i get lucky w an item spawn

I never win w items disabled


Yup. And that's definitely why some people don't like it.

Random OPness.
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Southernfatman
11/12/18 6:10:39 PM
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Games aren't about having fun. They're about showing who is the better competitor. How am I supposed to show off my awesome skills with items?
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PiOverlord
11/12/18 6:14:04 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Games aren't about having fun. They're about showing who is the better competitor. How am I supposed to show off my awesome skills with items?

This is with the assumption that playing without items is not fun, which is not true for many.
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Pancake
11/12/18 6:17:43 PM
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Games aren't about having fun. They're about showing who is the better competitor. How am I supposed to show off my awesome skills with items?

i really don't understand why competitive play is so threatening to you and so many others.
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Roxborough4Ever
11/12/18 6:34:31 PM
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next you'll be saying crap like "only this one flat stage counts" because in accordance with being too unskilled to use the items you also don't know map meta
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Southernfatman
11/12/18 6:36:43 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
This is with the assumption that playing without items is not fun, which is not true for many.


Pancake posted...
i really don't understand why competitive play is so threatening to you and so many others.


It's not threatening. I just roll my eyes at a certain subset of people taking video games like Smash Brothers of all things so seriously.
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EdgeMaster
11/12/18 6:43:25 PM
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SwayM posted...
Pretty boring


Hairistotle posted...
weird analogy but i agree that smash is p much only fun with items


Found the scrubs.

AlisLandale posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


So can an unskilled person with items beat a skilled person without items? Mhmm? Lol


It rarely happens. Youd get thrashed by a skilled player with items on and complain that its horseshit you lost because they throw stuff off stage at you and you werent clever enough to pick up a crate and instead jabbed it. Only for it to kill you instantly.

Funny because the OP is absolutely wrong. Its real boring when I dont have to work for kills and something else kills you because you suck so bad. Plus fighting off stage and and doing long combos off good reads is fun.

Stupid shit like killing you as Marth with dthrow > fsmash because you suck so bad you cant tech (if you did that combo is 100% survivable at any percent lol) is boring.
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PiOverlord
11/12/18 6:43:56 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
PiOverlord posted...
This is with the assumption that playing without items is not fun, which is not true for many.


Pancake posted...
i really don't understand why competitive play is so threatening to you and so many others.


It's not threatening. I just roll my eyes at a certain subset of people taking video games like Smash Brothers of all things so seriously.

Then I assume you roll your eyes at people taking anything seriously?
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markconigliaro
11/12/18 6:44:28 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
next you'll be saying crap like "only this one flat stage counts"


No one is going to say that because Final Destination is an unbalanced stage and most competitive players don't even like it.
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DarthAragorn
11/12/18 6:44:55 PM
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I will never understand why people will play Smash but turn off most features of Smash
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HiddenLurker
11/12/18 6:44:58 PM
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High item drop assist tropheys or pokeballs only for some RNG madness.
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PiOverlord
11/12/18 6:45:52 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I will never understand why people will play Smash but turn off most features of Smash

Same reason why anyone does anything they find fun: because they find it fun.
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EdgeMaster
11/12/18 6:54:41 PM
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markconigliaro posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
next you'll be saying crap like "only this one flat stage counts"


No one is going to say that because Final Destination is an unbalanced stage and most competitive players don't even like it.


Hahaha. Good post.
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SwayM
11/12/18 7:05:57 PM
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EdgeMaster posted...
SwayM posted...
Pretty boring


Hairistotle posted...
weird analogy but i agree that smash is p much only fun with items


Found the scrubs.

AlisLandale posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


So can an unskilled person with items beat a skilled person without items? Mhmm? Lol


It rarely happens. Youd get thrashed by a skilled player with items on and complain that its horseshit you lost because they throw stuff off stage at you and you werent clever enough to pick up a crate and instead jabbed it. Only for it to kill you instantly.

Funny because the OP is absolutely wrong. Its real boring when I dont have to work for kills and something else kills you because you suck so bad. Plus fighting off stage and and doing long combos off good reads is fun.

Stupid shit like killing you as Marth with dthrow > fsmash because you suck so bad you cant tech (if you did that combo is 100% survivable at any percent lol) is boring.


Its funny because people like this actually exist
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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/12/18 7:08:02 PM
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I like playing competitively and also getting friends and playing random stages with items.
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Looked gf
11/12/18 7:09:33 PM
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Weird analogy but okay
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Roxborough4Ever
11/12/18 7:11:14 PM
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markconigliaro posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
next you'll be saying crap like "only this one flat stage counts"


No one is going to say that because Final Destination is an unbalanced stage and most competitive players don't even like it.


how is it unbalanced when its like a perfectly symmetrical map? who gets the advantage?
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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/12/18 7:13:14 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
markconigliaro posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
next you'll be saying crap like "only this one flat stage counts"


No one is going to say that because Final Destination is an unbalanced stage and most competitive players don't even like it.


how is it unbalanced when its like a perfectly symmetrical map? who gets the advantage?


Some characters are a lot better with platforms compared to just a flat stage, see Fox vs. Marth in Melee for example, if Marth get's a grab it is basically death for Fox
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kingdrake2
11/12/18 7:14:32 PM
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K181 posted...
A good cheese pizza is good from time to time.

And by time to time, I mean Fridays in Lent when you remember and care about that and feel like having pizza that day.


the only cheese pizza i'll get is the safeway signature select brand (5 cheese) you get extra cheese instead of the toppings it's pretty good only bad thing the pizza doesn't go on sale very often i might get one tonight but i need to prioritize dog treats first (my dog loves hot dogs) she has allergy's so there's only so many things i can give or else she will have the itchy.
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Anteaterking
11/12/18 7:17:24 PM
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Personally, with the people I play with, most items on and stages with unpredictable hazards is what keeps the chances close enough for them to still enjoy the game. Otherwise, I would just beat them in very repetitive ways.
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Metua
11/12/18 7:18:19 PM
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markconigliaro
11/12/18 7:22:38 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
markconigliaro posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
next you'll be saying crap like "only this one flat stage counts"


No one is going to say that because Final Destination is an unbalanced stage and most competitive players don't even like it.


how is it unbalanced when its like a perfectly symmetrical map? who gets the advantage?


It favors characters with projectiles and strong ground games. AngelsNAirwav3s gave the example I was going to use. Melee Fox is great on FD. He's fast, good on the ground, and can fire his blaster at any time without hindrance. I was a Marth main in Melee, I liked being in the air because I had no projectiles and a strong air game. With platforms, I can jump from under you to setup combos, without platforms, I have to work (usually a throw) to get you into the air to then start my combos. If I'm playing against Fox or any other character with projectiles, in order to get in I have to dodge projectile spam. If there were platforms, I have a lot more options to get in.

EDIT: My Melee knowledge is starting to go. I forgot that Marth just dominates FD, and my personal play style (no chaingrabs) is what made me not like FD with him. Fox/Falco are probably second on FD though, for the reasons I said above. But it's very hard to jump in on Marth, and FD makes it so much harder because you can only come in head on. But characters like Samus, who rely on platforms, are gimped hard on FD. Most people agree that battlefield and battlefield-like stages are much more fair than FD.
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CircleOfManias
11/12/18 7:23:01 PM
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If a pizzeria doesn't have a good regular cheese pizza, they're not a good pizzeria. Toppings are just a bonus.
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SwayM
11/13/18 7:13:44 AM
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>competitive smash player
>baffled by items.

Get better?
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awesome999
11/13/18 7:15:43 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Anybody can win w items

Actual skill is required without


no dude, if you can't play with the items you don't have any "skill"

I dont have any skill in smash bros either way

Just sayin, i can whoop my boys who play this religiously whenever i get lucky w an item spawn

I never win w items disabled

Git gud scrub
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elysdeon
11/13/18 7:29:01 AM
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I work at a Mod Pizza and it's shocking how many plain cheese pizzas we sell. I had no idea they were so popular
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