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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 4:45:35 PM
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I can't say what this is in regards to because I'll get modded. God forbid people be allowed to know what the trolls actually believe and say, because telling the truth about them is harassment. The preferable alternative is to allow the decent posters of the board to be constantly pestered by their plethora of alts, constantly spamming troll posts and harassing decent people. God forbid you protect US from THEM. God forbid you foster an environment where we can create a community without having to constantly be on guard for divisive elements trying turn everything to shit.

I wonder why GameFAQs is slowly dying...
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TiamatLover
11/08/18 4:46:21 PM
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What if I told you that you can explain what they're saying without actually showing the exact quotes, full of slurs and whatnot, and you probably won't get suspended in that case?
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FightingFefnir
11/08/18 4:46:33 PM
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davyheinz
11/08/18 4:46:54 PM
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I agree with you.
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Alpha218
11/08/18 4:47:05 PM
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What are they supposed to do, ban them for something they said on discord? Thats not how it works bro.

They DO get moderated when they slip up and bring that garbage here.

Theres nothing to be upset over.
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Middle hope
11/08/18 4:47:41 PM
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You can always leave if you dont like it
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Axiom
11/08/18 4:47:43 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
What if I told you that you can explain what they're saying without actually showing the exact quotes, full of slurs and whatnot, and you probably won't get suspended in that case?

You'd be wrong. Hairistotle got modded for simply saying he saw it
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CornBarn
11/08/18 4:47:48 PM
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Which users were involved?
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C_Pain
11/08/18 4:48:28 PM
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imagine needing protection from trolls
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Burgess
11/08/18 4:48:33 PM
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Let us act like pieces of shit because these people are pieces of shit
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andel
11/08/18 4:48:57 PM
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they are bottom feeding trolls and this is the kind of reaction they want. just make a mental note of what kind of people they are and if they bring that shit here mark em and they will get taken care of

those kinds of people are the same types that make 1000s of alts when banned anyway and have no life, just treat them accordingly
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RebelElite791
11/08/18 4:49:08 PM
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Burgess posted...
Let us act like pieces of shit because these people are pieces of shit

How is sage said these terrible things acting like a piece of shit?

Thats some peak centrist bullshit there my man
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Funkydog
11/08/18 4:51:33 PM
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Yeah, I get that harassment in general isn't something to tolerate, but outing people with racist ideology is hardly the same thing. Being utterly draconian on the matter just lets them breed and fester on the site and ultimately only makes the place worse for everyone else.

People like them do not deserve to be free from suffering from their deplorable beliefs and should suffer for it. These ones in particular show no willing to change or even listen to others and so allowing them a platform and protection is pointless. The site has no obligation to protect "everybody" when those beliefs that end up being protected are abhorrent to any person with a basic set of morals and decency.

If people go overboard, sure, moderate them I guess. But I fail to see what the issue is in just presenting factual information for others to know they are disgusting human beings.
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Alpha218
11/08/18 4:55:27 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Yeah, I get that harassment in general isn't something to tolerate, but outing people with racist ideology is hardly the same thing. Being utterly draconian on the matter just lets them breed and fester on the site and ultimately only makes the place worse for everyone else.

People like them do not deserve to be free from suffering from their deplorable beliefs and should suffer for it. These ones in particular show no willing to change or even listen to others and so allowing them a platform and protection is pointless. The site has no obligation to protect "everybody" when those beliefs that end up being protected are abhorrent to any person with a basic set of morals and decency.

If people go overboard, sure, moderate them I guess. But I fail to see what the issue is in just presenting factual information for others to know they are disgusting human beings.

Nobodys main has posted the removed threads. Its almost like they knew what was going to happen when they posted them. Because they blantantly break the sites rules posting them (in more than one way, btw)
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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 4:56:53 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
What are they supposed to do, ban them for something they said on discord? Thats not how it works bro.

They DO get moderated when they slip up and bring that garbage here.

Theres nothing to be upset over.

All three of them should have been perma'd from stuff they've done on here a long time ago. How many times do you let a fox kill your chickens before you get your gun? How many 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 8th chances do you give? And how much effort do you go in protecting the user base FROM THEM compared to how much you protect them? Shouldn't the users be allowed to know the shit they talk about? Why does their behavior deserve to be covered up?
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FightingFefnir
11/08/18 4:57:28 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Yeah, I get that harassment in general isn't something to tolerate, but outing people with racist ideology is hardly the same thing.

Le tolerant and inclusive left xdd
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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 4:58:23 PM
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C_Pain posted...
imagine needing protection from trolls

I would rather be able to enjoy the company of people I appreciate or even tolerate on here without assholes slinging shit around constantly. Pardon me for having this terrible flaw.
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Funkydog
11/08/18 4:58:40 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Nobodys main has posted the removed threads. Its almost like they knew what was going to happen when they posted them. Because they blantantly break the sites rules posting them (in more than one way, btw)

I fail to see how that changes anything. Why should these people not have to face the consequences of their beliefs? It's not like anyone is just going to believe "oh these people said some really racist shit" without evidence, as people claim shit on the internet all the time.
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ChainedRedone
11/08/18 4:59:00 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
What are they supposed to do, ban them for something they said on discord? Thats not how it works bro.


That's exactly what they should be doing. That's not how it works? Are you a child? That's exactly how real life works, bro.
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/08/18 4:59:52 PM
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TC, you have an unhealthy obsession with racists. Go outside.
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FightingFefnir
11/08/18 5:00:08 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
That's exactly what they should be doing. That's not how it works? Are you a child? That's exactly how real life works, bro.

Not when they can't even prove someone didn't use a bunch of alts to fabricate it.
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ChainedRedone
11/08/18 5:00:57 PM
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FightingFefnir posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
That's exactly what they should be doing. That's not how it works? Are you a child? That's exactly how real life works, bro.

Not when they can't even prove someone didn't use a bunch of alts to fabricate it.


The mods know full well it was really them.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/08/18 5:00:58 PM
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Itd be great if we could enjoy this site without blatant sacks of shit trolling every topic. But thats not the GameFAQs way for some stupid reason.
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andel
11/08/18 5:01:43 PM
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i don't agree that posting something these guys posted is 'harassment' and thought it was deleted because it contained the n word which the site has a zero tolerance towards
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TiamatLover
11/08/18 5:05:03 PM
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Schrodinger's GameFAQs: When the site both protects racism, and moderates the most ridiculous things under the guise of "racism", at the same time.

It'd be funnier if GameFAQs wasn't literally somehow managing to actually achieve that.
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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 5:06:21 PM
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AssultTank posted...
I haven't seen the screenshots myself, but GameFAQs does not ban people for things said by them on other platforms.

I mean for one, it is easy to fake screenshots. (Not saying this happened here but...)

We have no way to verify if anything said off site was actually said by them, and they aren't bound by our rules off site anyway.

Using things allegedly said by people to attack them is going to be moderated when done on this site as it breaks the rules of this site.

Is enforcing ignorance of their behavior really a better alternative to using someone's words against them in an argument? That seems like a terribly draconian enforcement of rules that really only benefits those who would abuse others.
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Lebronwon
11/08/18 5:06:38 PM
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The leak got archived. It looks legit from what I have seen since that user who said the n-word posted a moderation that only that user would have access to. But it isn't moddable you have to do stuff on gamefaqs to get modded. If you are racist on youtube, FB, reddit, etc that probably won't be held against you on gamefaqs boards.
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ChainedRedone
11/08/18 5:06:43 PM
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AssultTank posted...
I haven't seen the screenshots myself, but GameFAQs does not ban people for things said by them on other platforms.

I mean for one, it is easy to fake screenshots. (Not saying this happened here but...)

We have no way to verify if anything said off site was actually said by them, and they aren't bound by our rules off site anyway.

Using things allegedly said by people to attack them is going to be moderated when done on this site as it breaks the rules of this site.


Pathetic cop-out. Stormfront could literally come to CE but as long as their rhetoric isn't too racist on CE, they're good to go.
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BLAKUboy
11/08/18 5:08:51 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
That seems like a terribly draconian enforcement of rules that really only benefits those who would abuse others.

Correct. There's a reason only shitholes like GameFAQs have these kinds of policies.
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FursonaNonGrata
11/08/18 5:08:59 PM
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I got modded for calling Admiral a clown after he was suspended. The topic I made about it was locked. Coincidentally, another former mod made an explicit rape joke in the same topic but it got locked and deleted after the post was marked.
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VictimComplex
11/08/18 5:10:02 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
The leak got archived. It looks legit from what I have seen since that user who said the n-word posted a moderation that only that user would have access to. But it isn't moddable you have to do stuff on gamefaqs to get modded. If you are racist on youtube, FB, reddit, etc that probably won't be held against you on gamefaqs boards.

Exactly. That's why three moderation screencaps, one from each of them, were posted. It proves the authenticity
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A_Good_Boy
11/08/18 5:11:27 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
What are they supposed to do, ban them for something they said on discord? Thats not how it works bro.

They DO get moderated when they slip up and bring that garbage here.

Theres nothing to be upset over.

They weren't just saying bad words though. They were account sharing and coordinating campaigns to harass people. Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof, and considering that these dudes go through accounts like toilet paper, and the mods and admins can actually see this, it's disgusting that they tolerate it. The users of this site shouldn't have to tolerate being harassed just because the people that are doing the harassment are coordinating their activities offsite.
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TheGoldenEel
11/08/18 5:11:35 PM
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Users should be banned when it is public knowledge that they are racist tbqh. Theres no reason to allow users like that here

Its gross how often there are users here whose gimmick is dancing around the written rules about that kind of stuff.

For example a certain user who would always go into topics about certain women and talk about how he doesnt find them attractive. Yes hes not blatantly breaking the rules but we all know what they mean and it shouldnt be tolerated
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prettyprincess
11/08/18 5:13:05 PM
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itd be very easy to never engage them again but people like being a part of callout culture so I imagine theyll keep driving 500s
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FursonaNonGrata
11/08/18 5:14:05 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Users should be banned when it is public knowledge that they are racist tbqh. Theres no reason to allow users like that here

Its gross how often there are users here whose gimmick is dancing around the written rules about that kind of stuff.

For example a certain user who would always go into topics about certain women and talk about how he doesnt find them attractive. Yes hes not blatantly breaking the rules but we all know what they mean and it shouldnt be tolerated


Its very likely that the majority of mods either agree with these racist sentiments or are so sheltered that they believe its just harmless personal opinion and dont consider it racist.
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FightingFefnir
11/08/18 5:14:57 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.
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DrizztLink
11/08/18 5:15:25 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
For example a certain user who would always go into topics about certain women and talk about how he doesnt find them attractive. Yes hes not blatantly breaking the rules but we all know what they mean and it shouldnt be tolerated

Klanda's too busy talking to himself these days to come here.
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ChainedRedone
11/08/18 5:15:59 PM
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FightingFefnir posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.


Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?
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DrizztLink
11/08/18 5:17:03 PM
#43:


ChainedRedone posted...
FightingFefnir posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.


Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?

He is one of them.
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Pogo_Marimo
11/08/18 5:17:29 PM
#44:


DrizztLink posted...
TheGoldenEel posted...
For example a certain user who would always go into topics about certain women and talk about how he doesnt find them attractive. Yes hes not blatantly breaking the rules but we all know what they mean and it shouldnt be tolerated

Klanda's too busy talking to himself these days to come here.

Careful, if you talk mention his fantasy world of Sonic Fanfiction that he's created in some dark corner of GameFAQs, talking about the information he volunteers to this site could be seen as harassment.
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VictimComplex
11/08/18 5:18:11 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
FightingFefnir posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.


Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?

That's SageHarpuia. He's defending himself. Despite admitting to it earlier and claiming it was "ironic".

Even Complete_Idi0t made fun of him for that one.

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BLAKUboy
11/08/18 5:18:12 PM
#46:


ChainedRedone posted...
Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?

That's Sage.
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ChainedRedone
11/08/18 5:18:14 PM
#47:


DrizztLink posted...
ChainedRedone posted...
FightingFefnir posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.


Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?

He is one of them.


Ah, is he hypno? Sage? Can't be caution because caution admitted to being wrong.

Edit: Ah ok guys. He's sage.
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TiamatLover
11/08/18 5:18:18 PM
#48:


ChainedRedone posted...
FightingFefnir posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.


Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?


Stating "there isn't proof that can legally be obtained by GameFAQs" isn't defending their actions; it's just saying GameFAQs isn't in a position to do much about it.
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FightingFefnir
11/08/18 5:18:48 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
FightingFefnir posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Shit like that shouldn't be tolerated if there's proof

Which there isn't without getting records from Discord, who can't give out that information to just anyone.


Why are you defending them so hard, even when they admitted to it? Are they your lovers or something?

Yes.
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FightingFefnir
11/08/18 5:20:15 PM
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Oh noes someone stated a fact about why GameFAQs can't do something outside their power he's obviously defending someone
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