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PIITB415
11/04/18 6:40:26 PM
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Or is it more of a per person basis?
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_Squirtle_
11/04/18 6:41:07 PM
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per person

certain aspects of certain cultures don't help though
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Menardii
11/04/18 6:41:13 PM
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TiamatLover
11/04/18 6:41:42 PM
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Ethnicities, no. Cultures, yes. But there are always exceptions in individuals, to the general trend of any culture.
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tennisdude818
11/04/18 6:43:28 PM
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Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.
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PIITB415
11/04/18 6:44:14 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Which would you say are the least productive?
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SaithSayer
11/04/18 6:45:11 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.

Surely not any of the early ones, though. How can you encourage and embrace laziness without it leading to your people starving to death?
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Kazi1212
11/04/18 6:45:19 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Which would you say are the least productive?


I would put Italian up there. People of Souther Italy lives in such great weather all year around that they can just take naps during the day
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Guide
11/04/18 6:46:50 PM
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Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.
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TiamatLover
11/04/18 6:48:14 PM
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Guide posted...
Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.

Australia couldn't do anything to fix their problems because Australia is a fictional place that doesn't actually exist so it can't do anything.
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/04/18 6:50:43 PM
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TiamatLover posted...
Guide posted...
Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.

Australia couldn't do anything to fix their problems because Australia is a fictional place that doesn't actually exist so it can't do anything.

I so wish this were true. Then we wouldnt have to deal with the insufferable posts from @Rika_Furude
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 6:52:02 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
per person

certain aspects of certain cultures don't help though


Racist.

TiamatLover posted...
Ethnicities, no. Cultures, yes. But there are always exceptions in individuals, to the general trend of any culture.


Racist.

tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Racist.

Kazi1212 posted...
PIITB415 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...

Which would you say are the least productive?


I would put Italian up there. People of Souther Italy lives in such great weather all year around that they can just take naps during the day


Racist.

PIITB415 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Which would you say are the least productive?


Id tell you but that would be racist lol.
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SaithSayer
11/04/18 6:54:50 PM
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LOL
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Guide
11/04/18 6:56:19 PM
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EdgeMaster posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
per person

certain aspects of certain cultures don't help though


Racist.

TiamatLover posted...
Ethnicities, no. Cultures, yes. But there are always exceptions in individuals, to the general trend of any culture.


Racist.

tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Racist.

Kazi1212 posted...
PIITB415 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...

Which would you say are the least productive?


I would put Italian up there. People of Souther Italy lives in such great weather all year around that they can just take naps during the day


Racist.


You make no sense at all. You think this is what the left does, call everyone racist, but you're the only one promoting this attitude.
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SaithSayer
11/04/18 6:59:01 PM
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He could just be making fun of how people try to constantly shut others down by implying they're racist over every little thing.
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 7:04:14 PM
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Guide posted...
EdgeMaster posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
per person

certain aspects of certain cultures don't help though


Racist.

TiamatLover posted...
Ethnicities, no. Cultures, yes. But there are always exceptions in individuals, to the general trend of any culture.


Racist.

tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Racist.

Kazi1212 posted...
PIITB415 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...

Which would you say are the least productive?


I would put Italian up there. People of Souther Italy lives in such great weather all year around that they can just take naps during the day


Racist.


You make no sense at all. You think this is what the left does, call everyone racist, but you're the only one promoting this attitude.


Uhhm alright....

I could tell you that certain cultures and groups of people dont exactly hold being successful in academics in high regard or that certain cultures still wouldnt have developed a fucking wheel.

Would that be facts or racism?

Also your sarcasm detector is broken.
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Colorahdo
11/04/18 7:06:34 PM
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When I lived in Bolivia they couldn't believe how much or hard Americans work.

In Bolivia you just show up somewhere in the morning, not at a specific time, and if you get sidetracked you just don't show up at all.

Doing simple errands has its own word because you never know if the people you need are at work that day or not, so you gotta wait around all day long

It really changed my view of work culture. I don't think being a hard worker if necessarily a good thing
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Bishop9800
11/04/18 7:08:33 PM
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EdgeMaster posted...

I could tell you that certain cultures and groups of people dont exactly hold being successful in academics in high regard or that certain cultures still wouldnt have developed a fucking wheel.


Then tell us, stop bullshittin
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Guide
11/04/18 7:08:44 PM
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I get that you meant to be sarcastic, but your timing and point of response were just awful. It just comes off as promotion of a dumb thing for the sake of promotion of a dumb thing.

Certain cultures? Sure, that's facts. Good luck proving the other stuff though, especially the vagueness of "groups of people".
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PIITB415
11/04/18 7:09:15 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
When I lived in Bolivia they couldn't believe how much or hard Americans work.

In Bolivia you just show up somewhere in the morning, not at a specific time, and if you get sidetracked you just don't show up at all.

Doing simple errands has its own word because you never know if the people you need are at work that day or not, so you gotta wait around all day long

It really changed my view of work culture. I don't think being a hard worker if necessarily a good thing


Similar to my friend currently working in France. The French labor laws make it very difficult to fire someone so most people as lazy AF.
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tennisdude818
11/04/18 7:10:52 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Obviously not all cultures encourage the same work ethic.


Which would you say are the least productive?


Modern Greece has to be up there. Also, my wife spent some time in Fiji and said that place was extremely laid back. Looking at pictures of the place, its no wonder why. Its probably why Okinawa is more laid back that Tokyo.
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 7:12:38 PM
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Guide posted...


Certain cultures? Sure, that's facts. Good luck proving the other stuff though, especially the vagueness of "groups of people".


Trick question, its both. Facts are racist in case you havent heard and thats exactly why we arent going to have this discussion.
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Guide
11/04/18 7:15:04 PM
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I mean, they're not racist. It's just people use certain facts and conflate them with bullshit.

I don't think I've ever seen someone here list the black crime statistic without using it to bolster some blatantly racist concept that isn't factual at all.
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nemu
11/04/18 7:15:08 PM
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Yes, cultural attitudes can greatly affect how the individuals in the culture act. I really don't think ethnicity really affects anything at all beyond maybe extremely minor differences stemming in how different races evolved way back to handle their ways of life thousands of years ago.
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Raikuro
11/04/18 7:19:04 PM
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"less driven" is a bit of a vague and loaded statement. There's nothing wrong with valuing family time over working yourself to death.
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Colorahdo
11/04/18 7:25:28 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
Colorahdo posted...
When I lived in Bolivia they couldn't believe how much or hard Americans work.

In Bolivia you just show up somewhere in the morning, not at a specific time, and if you get sidetracked you just don't show up at all.

Doing simple errands has its own word because you never know if the people you need are at work that day or not, so you gotta wait around all day long

It really changed my view of work culture. I don't think being a hard worker if necessarily a good thing


Similar to my friend currently working in France. The French labor laws make it very difficult to fire someone so most people as lazy AF.


Its lazy to work-brainwashed Americans. They spend way more time with their family there, no one is shaming them for being a "bad worker"

Just different values. Would you sacrifice nothing running on time for twice as much time with your loved ones? I would
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Guide
11/04/18 7:28:48 PM
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Yeah, that's another thing I often fail to catch on initial reading. These kinds of topics, whether deliberately or not, are often loaded. There's also this perspective of materialism as objective superiority.
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PIITB415
11/04/18 7:29:22 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
PIITB415 posted...
Colorahdo posted...
When I lived in Bolivia they couldn't believe how much or hard Americans work.

In Bolivia you just show up somewhere in the morning, not at a specific time, and if you get sidetracked you just don't show up at all.

Doing simple errands has its own word because you never know if the people you need are at work that day or not, so you gotta wait around all day long

It really changed my view of work culture. I don't think being a hard worker if necessarily a good thing


Similar to my friend currently working in France. The French labor laws make it very difficult to fire someone so most people as lazy AF.


Its lazy to work-brainwashed Americans. They spend way more time with their family there, no one is shaming them for being a "bad worker"

Just different values. Would you sacrifice nothing running on time for twice as much time with your loved ones? I would


I agree that the work to life ratio is extremely poor in America however, the salary i have where I am (bay area) cannot be met in those countries.
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SaithSayer
11/04/18 7:30:53 PM
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40 hours a week is just fine for work. That's the standard before overtime starts.
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TheMikh
11/04/18 7:33:00 PM
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It's absolutely an individual thing.
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pikachupwnage
11/04/18 7:36:53 PM
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Both.

Mainly individual but lets not pretend like some cultures/sub-cultures don't have some differences on average in this.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/04/18 7:43:33 PM
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some demographics think they're entitled to things they never worked for themselves, but that's just people for you.

some demographics think they should be at the front of the line based on arbitrary social status. they can be dirt poor, be far from educated and not be actively working to improve, but still feel more entitled than the person busting their ass to escape that very status. only to be told what to do with their money/status by the underachiever who does diddly squat.
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Guide
11/04/18 7:46:38 PM
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I contest that you can generalize a whole demographic that way, unless you're using the term "demographic" in a very specific way that categorizes personalities instead of ethnic groups.
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ThyCorndog
11/04/18 7:46:51 PM
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races and ethnicities don't behave in particular ways, as proven by the fact that no 50 year segment of history of any country behaves identical to the previous 50 years or the 50 years that follow. cultures change and adapt and human behavior on any large scale always comes down to that
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/04/18 7:49:03 PM
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Guide posted...
I contest that you can generalize a whole demographic that way, unless you're using the term "demographic" in a very specific way that categorizes personalities instead of ethnic groups.


I'm using it in a way to where "if the shoe fits, wear it." apply it where it fits.
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 7:50:07 PM
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Guide posted...
I mean, they're not racist. It's just people use certain facts and conflate them with bullshit.

I don't think I've ever seen someone here list the black crime statistic without using it to bolster some blatantly racist concept that isn't factual at all.


Thats good you realize that, seriously.

The black crime statistic is real but no one is gonna mention it because it should be common knowledge and doesnt be really add much to a conversation or they get called racist.

Facts can be unpleasant or hard to hear but it doesnt make someone saying them racist. Many people have a hard time deciphering that.

It isnt racist to say (or it shouldnt be lol) Africa is behind the rest of the world in economic development. Some would say well yeah but colonization and stuff my response is lol no, the countries that were colonized are the most developed ones. Countries like Ethiopia were never colonized and have plenty of problems first world nations dont suffer from, like famine, or that some nations really fucked themselves due to stupid decisions, like Zimbabwe, and colonialism had no part in their downfall.

I dont have an agenda to push nor am I trying to prove anything, its just an explanation of how things came to be with facts to support it.

But no, those are some uncomfortable facts so its racist
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Rika_Furude
11/04/18 7:52:52 PM
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@0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
TiamatLover posted...
Guide posted...
Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.

Australia couldn't do anything to fix their problems because Australia is a fictional place that doesn't actually exist so it can't do anything.

I so wish this were true. Then we wouldnt have to deal with the insufferable posts from @Rika_Furude

Maybe you shouldnt make insufferable posts yourself...
Since you are so clearly upset, promise never to harass me ever again and apologise for your past harassment...
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/04/18 8:00:04 PM
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what do Black crime statistics look like when you separate regular crimes from the crimes involving the civil war between gangs?

when a false narrative needs to be preserved, some details get left out.
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Kazi1212
11/04/18 8:05:04 PM
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Are gang war related crimes considered a different category of crimes than other violent crimes like assault or armed robbery?
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 8:08:17 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what do Black crime statistics look like when you separate regular crimes from the crimes involving the civil war between gangs?

when a false narrative needs to be preserved, some details get left out.


Fugitives, repeat offenders and gangs commit almost all violent crime in the US.

So idk take away any gang related crime and theres not much left.

Example: Vermont, a state with incredibly lax gun laws where everyone has 6+ guns and nearly 0 homicides a year...

Just something to think about.
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 8:10:12 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Are gang war related crimes considered a different category of crimes than other violent crimes like assault or armed robbery?


Drug trafficking, homicide, rape, home invasion. There no actual gang war crimes.

They basically commit every heinous crime besides treason.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/04/18 8:35:51 PM
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EdgeMaster posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Are gang war related crimes considered a different category of crimes than other violent crimes like assault or armed robbery?


Drug trafficking, homicide, rape, home invasion. There no actual gang war crimes.

They basically commit every heinous crime besides treason.


EdgeMaster posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what do Black crime statistics look like when you separate regular crimes from the crimes involving the civil war between gangs?

when a false narrative needs to be preserved, some details get left out.


Fugitives, repeat offenders and gangs commit almost all violent crime in the US.

So idk take away any gang related crime and theres not much left.

Example: Vermont, a state with incredibly lax gun laws where everyone has 6+ guns and nearly 0 homicides a year...

Just something to think about.


sounds like it can definitely be broken down for accuracy, then.
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0AbsoluteZero0
11/04/18 8:37:02 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
@0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
TiamatLover posted...
Guide posted...
Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.

Australia couldn't do anything to fix their problems because Australia is a fictional place that doesn't actually exist so it can't do anything.

I so wish this were true. Then we wouldnt have to deal with the insufferable posts from @Rika_Furude

Maybe you shouldnt make insufferable posts yourself...
Since you are so clearly upset, promise never to harass me ever again and apologise for your past harassment...

Ill gladly do so when you apologize to me first. Youve been instigating a majority of the time recently, brother Rika
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/04/18 8:38:12 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
@0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
TiamatLover posted...
Guide posted...
Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.

Australia couldn't do anything to fix their problems because Australia is a fictional place that doesn't actually exist so it can't do anything.

I so wish this were true. Then we wouldnt have to deal with the insufferable posts from @Rika_Furude

Maybe you shouldnt make insufferable posts yourself...
Since you are so clearly upset, promise never to harass me ever again and apologise for your past harassment...

Ill gladly do so when you apologize to me first. Youve been instigating a majority of the time recently, brother Rika


ITP: Ricky learned Rika is a male.
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Dragonblade01
11/04/18 8:41:47 PM
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Driven to do what? Different cultures drive their citizens to different things.
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EdgeMaster
11/04/18 9:09:50 PM
#48:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
EdgeMaster posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Are gang war related crimes considered a different category of crimes than other violent crimes like assault or armed robbery?


Drug trafficking, homicide, rape, home invasion. There no actual gang war crimes.

They basically commit every heinous crime besides treason.


EdgeMaster posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what do Black crime statistics look like when you separate regular crimes from the crimes involving the civil war between gangs?

when a false narrative needs to be preserved, some details get left out.


Fugitives, repeat offenders and gangs commit almost all violent crime in the US.

So idk take away any gang related crime and theres not much left.

Example: Vermont, a state with incredibly lax gun laws where everyone has 6+ guns and nearly 0 homicides a year...

Just something to think about.


sounds like it can definitely be broken down for accuracy, then.


Theres still armed robberies and other violent crime committed by people without any gang affiliation... then again you could make the argument that the kind of person who would commit armed robberies and violent crimes is the kind of person who would join a gang.

But yeah you could break it down and infer a few things...
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PIITB415
11/04/18 9:51:50 PM
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Rika_Furude
11/04/18 10:11:01 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
@0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
TiamatLover posted...
Guide posted...
Japan could halve its suicide rate just by adopting the siesta.

America could halve its death-by-fat rate just by adopting Japanese school standards for gym.

Australia couldn't do anything to fix their problems because Australia is a fictional place that doesn't actually exist so it can't do anything.

I so wish this were true. Then we wouldnt have to deal with the insufferable posts from @Rika_Furude

Maybe you shouldnt make insufferable posts yourself...
Since you are so clearly upset, promise never to harass me ever again and apologise for your past harassment...

Ill gladly do so when you apologize to me first. Youve been instigating a majority of the time recently, brother Rika

Why do you refuse to apologise? And why did you refuse to stop? And why do you think i should have to apologise to you for retaliating against you (who started everything)? And even though you stated it, why do you think i have to be the first to apologise?
If you arent trolling, i want serious answers to all 4.
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DarkProto05
11/04/18 10:19:43 PM
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It's a problem with gangs. Gang members are violent pricks, not the race of the members as a whole. But you guys love using "facts" to push your sheltered racist opinions.
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