Board 8 > Danganronpa M - CHAPTER 1: Part 2

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Dark Young Link posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Then you have a life

My computer bricked earlier and if work had not been super sedate today I wouldn't have been able to post until around this hour. This is like the worst reason to suspect someone ever when so little time has passed.

Kanz, two things.

1. My reason for thinking Han is scum is not sorely due to him being away for so long.

2. Consider how Han entered the game.

He didn't come here and say "Hey, sorry I've been away. I'm catching up now."

No, instead he went "Hey, I only read the 1st page but I want to vote up this player."

The game has two pages, and you're telling me you're going to instant vote someone on page 1 when you have no idea how 95% of the game went?

And instead of actually going back, and giving your thoughts about what happened in a way that shows you're interested in the game(Which more than likely will convince anyone who suspects you due to your lack of activity to feel better about you).... you counter vote someone and give next to zero explanation as to why you think someone is town/scum.

Han being away for so long is suspicions, but his reaction to being pressured is what makes him scum in my eyes. That isn't a town mentality.

Han always does this though. Like...it's not a towntell or scumtell, when he is away and catches up he posts from the hip and then has a summary of his thoughts at the end after he's done reading.
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Dark Young Link posted...

1. My reason for thinking Han is scum is not sorely due to him being away for so long.

That's literally all you said.

2. Consider how Han entered the game.

He didn't come here and say "Hey, sorry I've been away. I'm catching up now."

No, instead he went "Hey, I only read the 1st page but I want to vote up this player."

The game has two pages, and you're telling me you're going to instant vote someone on page 1 when you have no idea how 95% of the game went?

DYL... I am the best Scumhunter on this board. I frequently hit Scum with literally their first post of the game.

And instead of actually going back, and giving your thoughts about what happened in a way that shows you're interested in the game(Which more than likely will convince anyone who suspects you due to your lack of activity to feel better about you)....

Here's what fucking gets me - for one, nobody should suspect me for lack of activity. Anybody who does that is a shit player and I would hope that this community doesn't still have players who think someone is Scum for not having seen the game yet.

For TWO, you're trying to tell me what to do to convince people to not think I'm Scummy? Bitch, I'm Town. And I have a better mislynch rate than puns. I am very very very swayed by you having that mindset though.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Neablis posted...

And honestly han has the most reads in the thread now.

You seriously call those "reads"?

I could pull better out of my rear in 5 minutes. It's hardly better than Zyx going "I don't know" about the whole game.

And? See If he can back them up just the same way you would be challenged on it, I would hope.

And when did your scum read on han change from mainly time related to mainly reaction based really?

*Ding Dong Dong Ding*

A BODY HAS BEEN DISCOVERED!

Neablis: Wait, what?!
Monokuma: Everyone please come to the shower room!

All of the students ran into the Shower room where they found.DoomTheGyarados, lying dead in a pool of his own blood.

Corrik: Who would do such a thing.
Monokuma: The murder was committed by one of you!!! Im so proud!
Obellisk: So thenthat person who killed Chrisgets to leave?
Monokuma: Not yet! I SAID you would have to kill and not get caught. You see, when someone kills, they become known as the BLACKENED. And to determine who is the Blackened, a CLASS TRIAL will be held!
Johnbob: A trial to bring the killer to justice huh?
Monokuma: At the end of the trial, you will cast votes on who you think the Blackened is. If you get it wrong, the Blackened goes free and the rest of you will all be PUNISHED!
DarkYoungLink: Woah, thats horrible! How do you expect us to find the blackened?!
Monokuma: I dunno! Use your time well. Investigate the murder scene and avenge your friend!
Forceful Dragon: Hm alright Ill examine the body.


DoomTheGyarados was Killed. He was the ULTIMATE MAFIA PLAYER (Town)

While many institutions do not recognize Mafia as an official sport, and thus do not recognize Mafia talent, we at Hopes Peak Academy are proud to recruit you! You are recognized in the Mafia community as one of the best in the world, and we would love for you to share your talent with a wider audience, by teaching other Hopes Peak students how the game is played. They hope to meet you soon!

As the ULTIMATE MAFIA PLAYER, the other students will rely on your skills. You cannot afford to make any miscalculations in this killing game, for you are their only beacon of hope. You will have to demonstrate your confidence in your skills by using THE OFFICIAL BOOK OF CONFIRMED TOWN. You may add a player to it by posting

THE OFFICIAL BOOK OF CONFIRMED TOWN
<BOLD>Player Name</BOLD>

You may post in this format as many times as you want, but you may only add ONE player each day. Once a player is added, they cannot be removed. During night time, if the player added to your list was indeed Town, the host will mod-confirm them town to you in a PM. If that player added was scum, your despair in being incorrect will overwhelm you and you will show up dead the next day. Flavor will not indicate whether this was the way you died or not. Your power is not affected by Godfathers, framers, millers, etc. The player that is mod-confirmed town will be confirmed town.

Monokuma: Heyyy.you look ...different. Did you get new glasses?
Sheep: *shrugs*
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Neablis posted...

Could you tell me about your John read or why you feel that way?

His enthusiasm is almost garish and Scum tend to be more reserved, since everything they say can and will be used against them.
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oh bye chris
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well rip

that sure was a thing alright
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

That's literally all you said.

Literally incorrect.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

DYL... I am the best Scumhunter on this board. I frequently hit Scum with literally their first post of the game.

The "best" Scumhunter throws a kneejerk counter vote? I don't care about your status because there's no reason to believe you're town this game. Maybe give an argument that's worth a damn instead of getting so worked up.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Here's what fucking gets me - for one, nobody should suspect me for lack of activity. Anybody who does that is a shit player and I would hope that this community doesn't still have players who think someone is Scum for not having seen the game yet.

Indeed. It's what you did with your activity that's suspect.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Bitch, I'm Town.

Show me.
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So if I'm reading that correctly, Chris guessing wrong would kill him during night phase instead of day phase. So... scum had a way to kill during day without revealing?
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Dark Young Link posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

That's literally all you said.

Literally incorrect.

Dark Young Link posted...

Had to double check to see if Han posted before. Nearly 24 hours

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I've only read page 1

##Unvote: Sheep
##Vote: Han

Dark Young Link posted...

No I'm voting for you for having been gone for nearly an entire day, and you failed to use any of that time to read anything besides the joking phase of the game.
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Dark Young Link posted...

You had nearly an entire 24 hours to read. You're telling me you're just now beginning to play the game?

Either you're Scum or illiterate.
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I'm really curious who Chris targeted

Han I like. Maybe because he's butting heads with DYL though idk
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LIVING

1. HanOfTheNekos
2. FFNut
3. DarkYoungLink
4. Pirate_Harris
5. Obelisk
6. Neablis
7. Johnbob
8. Turbopuns2
10. KanzarisKelshin
11. Zyxyz0
12. Htaed
13. Sheep
14. Forceful_Dragon
15. Doopliss_Power
16. Corrik

DEAD

DK1. DoomTheGyarados, ULTIMATE MAFIA PLAYER - TOWN Day Hider



[4] Han - Corrik, DYL, Doopliss, Obellisk
[2] Corrik - Pirate, Sheep
[1] Puns - Chris, (Corrik), (Han)
[1] Sheep - Puns, (DYL)
[1] Johnbob - Kanz
[1] DYL - Han
[0] Pirate - (FD), (Sheep)
[0] FD - (Puns)
[0] Chris - (Pirate)
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Dark Young Link posted...

So if I'm reading that correctly, Chris guessing wrong would kill him during night phase instead of day phase. So... scum had a way to kill during day without revealing?

oh wait shit you're right
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Johnbobb posted...

I'm really curious who Chris targeted

Han I like. Maybe because he's butting heads with DYL though idk

He targeted FD John

Unless I missed another instance of bold, that's it

So FD, whatchu got to say in your defense?
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woah when did that many people get on Han
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Dark Young Link posted...

Indeed. It's what you did with your activity that's suspect.

I read the game, gave reads (as I read!), and voted.

If you are Town and think that's suspect, then you probably shouldn't be signing up for games.

I'm going to bed. I expect at the very least a DYL claim in the morning.
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Just an observation, firstly SBell knee jerk voting han for being in a list and vanishing makes me worry about him a bit more with everything that is going on in thread atm.

Secondly Link, your argument is sort of becoming sort of strange in how it is growing and changing.

You start and argue with us about han activity making him scum. You do mention his reaction being interesting in initial scum read granted. And it feels like once that tactic didn't get traction you slipped into saying his reaction is the main reason which isn't true with the context of the thread.

FFS Han, you've wasted this much time bitching about me and you've yet to given a single solid argument for anyone being town/scum. I don't want one sentence lines, I don't want kneejerk reactions.

I want full fucking reads, with actual fucking explanations.

Or, just keep insulting me.
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Neablis posted...

Just an observation, firstly SBell knee jerk voting han for being in a list and vanishing makes me worry about him a bit more with everything that is going on in thread atm.

This is very true and I would be completely satisfied with an SBell lynch too.

But if I die tonight, then you guys better fucking listen to what I said and not completely ignore me like you all did in Dance With Dragons Mafia.
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Dark Young Link posted...

FFS Han, you've wasted this much time bitching about me and you've yet to given a single solid argument for anyone being town/scum. I don't want one sentence lines, I don't want kneejerk reactions.

I want full fucking reads, with actual fucking explanations.

Or, just keep insulting me.

I did give reads. You apparently can't even read.

peace y'all
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

Johnbobb posted...

I'm really curious who Chris targeted

Han I like. Maybe because he's butting heads with DYL though idk

He targeted FD John

Unless I missed another instance of bold, that's it

So FD, whatchu got to say in your defense?

wait look at Chris' flavor again

using the ## isn't how he adds a town player, it's some weird LIST OF CONFIRMED TOWN post

and he wouldn't find out if he was right until night

unless something was done wrong it seems like he was lying about both the target and the result
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Johnbobb posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Johnbobb posted...

I'm really curious who Chris targeted

Han I like. Maybe because he's butting heads with DYL though idk

He targeted FD John

Unless I missed another instance of bold, that's it

So FD, whatchu got to say in your defense?

wait look at Chris' flavor again

using the ## isn't how he adds a town player, it's some weird LIST OF CONFIRMED TOWN post

and he wouldn't find out if he was right until night

unless something was done wrong it seems like he was lying about both the target and the result

Pretty sure the mod PM is wrong because he's marked as 'day hider'

so, y'know, he'd die instantly during day.
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Johnbobb posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Johnbobb posted...

I'm really curious who Chris targeted

Han I like. Maybe because he's butting heads with DYL though idk

He targeted FD John

Unless I missed another instance of bold, that's it

So FD, whatchu got to say in your defense?

wait look at Chris' flavor again

using the ## isn't how he adds a town player, it's some weird LIST OF CONFIRMED TOWN post

and he wouldn't find out if he was right until night

unless something was done wrong it seems like he was lying about both the target and the result

Per flavour this is correct no info was gained because of a day vig or strongarm or something.

would it be ok to get host confirmation if Chris' FD post was an actual use of the power?

it seems like that's the kind of thing we'd ask Monokuma
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Neablis posted...

Secondly Link, your argument is sort of becoming sort of strange in how it is growing and changing.

You start and argue with us about han activity making him scum. You do mention his reaction being interesting in initial scum read granted. And it feels like once that tactic didn't get traction you slipped into saying his reaction is the main reason which isn't true with the context of the thread.

Okay let me walk you through this.

1. I vote him up when I realize he hasn't been around for 22 hours. No explanation for why he hasn't even attempted to read until just then. and he further decides to vote in ignorance. For all he knows, puns was day vigged. He wouldn't know!

2. His reaction to me voting him is to counter vote me, and to suggest he thought I was "probably town that says scummy things"(A rather safe stance).

3. He then further states that Harris is "the most obvious Town I've ever seen" and that me suspecting him made me scum even before my vote on him(Where he said I was "probably town")

HanOfTheNekos posted...

But really, Harris by page 3 is the most obvious Town I've ever seen and you casting slight shade on him made me sure you're Scum before this shitty ass vote on me.

No explanation for the town read on Harris. And if he thought I was scum for my interaction with Harris on page 3....

Why did he call me "Probably town" in his previous post? The one where he acknowledged I voted for him?

He then continues to give no real information while complaining about me. He'd rather spend time bickering with me than getting his thoughts in order.

It reads a lot like someone who's mad at being pressured, and someone who doesn't want to be questioned.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I did give reads. You apparently can't even read.

"X is Scum" "Y is Town" are one liners, not actual reads that explain your thoughts.

We're lynching Han day 1.
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Yeah what the fuck, why is Chris dead.

The flavor indicates his action resolved at night, at which point I would be mod confirmed as town.

But now he's dead.
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I'm back. Sorry lady and I started an episode of AHS.

First off.
##unvote

After that dyl exchange I see Han. And I don't think I've ever seen scum Han before.

And what just happened to Chris. His role says he'd die at night and he never actually booked anyone.
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My PM still says town. Did someone day vig Chris? Without posting in the topic?
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Who was online when that happened?
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Well if counts for anything town Chris at least wanted us to believe fd is town.

Hey FD.
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Yo. I'm on lunch for 15 more minutes
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I accidentally left a detail out of the updated player list. It has been corrected

LIVING

1. HanOfTheNekos
2. FFNut
3. DarkYoungLink
4. Pirate_Harris
5. Obelisk
6. Neablis
7. Johnbob
8. Turbopuns2
10. KanzarisKelshin
11. Zyxyz0
12. Htaed
13. Sheep
14. Forceful_Dragon
15. Doopliss_Power
16. Corrik

DEAD

DK1. DoomTheGyarados, ULTIMATE MAFIA PLAYER - TOWN Day Hider
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So, the question is. Day Serial Killer or Dayshot from scum. I think town would have claimed it by now.
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it looks the same and that didn't answer the question

also gravy's been replaced
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My current theory:

Chris was confident I was town, do he fibbed about aspects of his role and pretended to use it.

Scum possesses some form of day kill, they elected to swiftly use it to give the appearance that Chris died when he ##book'D me.

They were not counting on host posting the particulars of Chris' role when he flipped.

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But provided the flip information was accurate we know that Chris did not fully invoke his power.

Which inadvertently confirms me town anyways. If I were on the scum team I would have known he hadn't used it (based on his description of it's usage) and wouldn't go for a plan that would make it seem like he died from targeting me.
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There is a strong change that the person Chris used the book on was scum, and they were worried so they shot him.

Also a strong chance that they thought he was just making it up because they knew they were scum and he claimed they were town.

Also a strong chance they were just town.

Lots of strong chances here.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

If I were on the scum team I would have known he hadn't used

Why would the scum team know this?
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

They were not counting on host posting the particulars of Chris' role when he flipped.

Host said role pms would be posted with deaths.
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Obellisk posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

If I were on the scum team I would have known he hadn't used

Why would the scum team know this?

because Chris said FD was TOWN and also didn't die

if FD was scum he would've known Chris was lying and didn't actually use it
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Corrik posted...

There is a strong change that the person Chris used the book on was scum, and they were worried so they shot him.

I don't think so.

For starters he pretended to use it on me and I am town.

And until he flipped we only know what Chris had said about his role. So the fact the he didn't die immediately was according to Chris proof of me being town.

Scum that knew he was lying would wait to kill him at night. Because then the lack of a day death would indicate one of their own was Town.

Scum that knew he was telling the truth would know I am town and only in that situation does it make sense to eliminate Chris to try to muddle the day.
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Obellisk posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

They were not counting on host posting the particulars of Chris' role when he flipped.

Host said role pms would be posted with deaths.

yeah that's part of why I'm not really buying FD
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Johnbobb posted...

Obellisk posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

If I were on the scum team I would have known he hadn't used

Why would the scum team know this?

because Chris said FD was TOWN and also didn't die

if FD was scum he would've known Chris was lying and didn't actually use it

Oh that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that
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I guess it's also possible it's just Chris fear and Fd is just a red herring.
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Obellisk posted...

Host said role pms would be posted with deaths.

Yeah he said that AFTER someone killed Chris.

We didn't know that before and only had the information Chris had given. Don't be dense.

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Honestly it was probably a mistake for host to provide more than just Chris' role with the flip. Chris gambled when he lied about the workings of his role and scum presumably gambled to make it appear like he died from targeting me. We do not have a right to know the role specifics and it unfairly punishes scum for information being divulged that they couldn't anticipate.

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But hey I'll take the gift since I come out looking like a rose. Thanks host.
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benjamin3740 posted...

GAME SPECIFIC RULES
- When a player dies, their entire role and flavor will be posted in the flip.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Obellisk posted...

Host said role pms would be posted with deaths.

Yeah he said that AFTER someone killed Chris.

benjamin3740 posted...

GAME SPECIFIC RULES
- When a player dies, their entire role and flavor will be posted in the flip.

##Vote: FD
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##vote:fd

Now you sound like salty scum... But why?
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Ahhh.

That makes Chris action make more sense at least.

Anyways back to work. Ciao.
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Why did the game just die?
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