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JonThePenguin
11/02/18 3:15:30 PM
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ChaosTonyV4
11/02/18 3:15:54 PM
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Ashe
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JonThePenguin
11/02/18 3:18:47 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Ashe

I like that Bob is included.
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Punnyz
11/02/18 3:19:42 PM
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So the "leaks" for Overwatch were debunked too

lulz
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Snake5555555555
11/02/18 3:27:29 PM
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Ashe looks so fun! Great design too.
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Anagram
11/02/18 3:29:11 PM
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I admit to laughing once when the robot sweat oil.
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KommunistKoala
11/02/18 3:31:23 PM
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https://playoverwatch.com/en-gb/heroes/ashe/
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swordz9
11/02/18 3:34:06 PM
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So amazing. So hype. I want it all now
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Anagram
11/02/18 3:34:22 PM
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Also, I don't know why you'd introduce a new character with a short of her getting completely defeated. Although "incompetent cowgirl who thinks she's awesome" would be a fantastic character concept.
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Punnyz
11/02/18 3:45:33 PM
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so are we supposed to know who that robot chick was
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JonThePenguin
11/02/18 3:47:06 PM
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Punnyz posted...
so are we supposed to know who that robot chick was

Her names Echo, and from what Kaplan said onstage shes likely to be a hero sometime down the road.
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swordz9
11/02/18 3:49:25 PM
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I thought it was Athena?
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Punnyz
11/02/18 3:58:40 PM
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Anagram posted...
Also, I don't know why you'd introduce a new character with a short of her getting completely defeated. Although "incompetent cowgirl who thinks she's awesome" would be a fantastic character concept.

That was McCree's character short

not her introductory trailer

she was not incompetent in her introductory trailer
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11/02/18 4:00:52 PM
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Punnyz posted...
That was McCree's character short

not her introductory trailer

she was not incompetent in her introductory trailer

It's the first thing we see of her in canon. When I watched the short, I assumed the new character would be one of the Omnics, I was surprised to see it was her.

It's not like the Genji short where he defeats Hanzo, this is her with like six minions getting easily beaten by McCree after he announces his presence. If they made her a joke on purpose it would be funny, but I get the feeling I'm reading this wrong.
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JonThePenguin
11/02/18 4:05:13 PM
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swordz9 posted...
I thought it was Athena?

Just for you I went back and double-checked myself in the Twitch archive. Definitely Echo, he said it three or four times.
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swordz9
11/02/18 4:09:01 PM
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Oh, I didnt see any of the stuff other than what they added to their twitter so I missed all the in between commentary. I just assumed it was Athena when McCree said say hi to the monkey for me. Also I want BOB to be playable. His design is amazing
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Punnyz
11/02/18 5:12:20 PM
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Anagram posted...

It's the first thing we see of her in canon. When I watched the short, I assumed the new character would be one of the Omnics, I was surprised to see it was her.

the first thing we see Reaper and widow do in canon is get their asses kicked by a 14 year old kid
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Punnyz
11/02/18 5:20:17 PM
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Rewatching the short

Yea, bob looks pretty longingly at the crate when he opens it

He thought that robot chick was fine as hell

and yea, Bob is awesome

So is Ashe actually
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Punnyz
11/02/18 5:21:05 PM
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also I like how McCree is definitely going out of his way to not kill the humans

but the Omnic sniper? nah he fucking dies.
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Punnyz
11/02/18 5:23:45 PM
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So yea, the "Sentient" citizen omnics, such as Zenyatta, can perma die despite being robots

but this short establishes that they CAN be rebuilt, as long as their heads are intact

kinda interesting
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Punnyz
11/02/18 5:28:43 PM
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But yea, her style is interesting because shes like, a half sniper. Like how Brig is half a tank or half a healer
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Grand Kirby
11/02/18 5:41:24 PM
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Looks another character for people to be terrible with and never switch off.
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swordz9
11/02/18 5:43:01 PM
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Did they happen to say when the cereal will be sold in stores?
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JonThePenguin
11/02/18 5:57:23 PM
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Anagram
11/02/18 9:27:10 PM
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Punnyz posted...
the first thing we see Reaper and widow do in canon is get their asses kicked by a 14 year old kid

Didn't the fourteen year-old have Tracer, Winston, and the element of surprise?
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SuperNiceDog
11/02/18 9:28:10 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Ashe looks so fun! Great design too.


wait isn't that a league of legends char too?
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Punnyz
11/02/18 9:32:57 PM
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from what I remember, The *"leak" said the new hero was a guy thats been shown before in a comic and a still of his portrait has been in one of the videos IIRC, he has the sides of his head shaved.

Apparently he had an attack where he throws a net on you and uses electricity and he works for Talon. I think he was gonna be their tank

but what made the leak TOTALLY unbelievable IMO is that apparently they were gonna announce non-event PVE campaigns you have to unlock with coins

but yea, obviously none of this happened so just lawl leaks in general m i rite guise
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SuperNiceDog
11/02/18 10:34:26 PM
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too bad D.Va's 2nd round match wasn't today. She would win for sure.
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11/03/18 12:45:13 AM
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Original versions of Ashe
https://imgur.com/zLLGwe4
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Punnyz
11/03/18 12:51:20 AM
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we could've had that black beauty?

Blizzard are a bunch of cowards
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Anagram
11/03/18 1:07:17 AM
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Punnyz posted...
we could've had that black beauty?

Blizzard are a bunch of cowards

I like her lasso, it seems more interesting than dynamite.
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Snake5555555555
11/03/18 2:31:52 AM
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SuperNiceDog posted...
Snake5555555555 posted...
Ashe looks so fun! Great design too.


wait isn't that a league of legends char too?


Yup
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Grand Kirby
11/03/18 3:09:14 AM
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Also, McCree could have really used that mobility move that she has.
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Punnyz
11/03/18 2:15:42 PM
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yea, considering hes a hitscan expected to fight Pharah, I agree

rolling doesn't do much against her little explosions
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RyoCaliente
11/03/18 3:58:16 PM
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Anagram posted...
Punnyz posted...
That was McCree's character short

not her introductory trailer

she was not incompetent in her introductory trailer

It's the first thing we see of her in canon. When I watched the short, I assumed the new character would be one of the Omnics, I was surprised to see it was her.

It's not like the Genji short where he defeats Hanzo, this is her with like six minions getting easily beaten by McCree after he announces his presence. If they made her a joke on purpose it would be funny, but I get the feeling I'm reading this wrong.


Yes, easily beaten. It definitely wasn't down to them having dropped a belt of grenades near him (which they had looted, meaning there was no way for her to prepare against it). She really got her ass handed to her, ho boy.
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Mac Arrowny
11/03/18 4:16:09 PM
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Looking at the information, they didn't decide to make her playable until after they finished the short. She was supposed to be someone for McCree to wreck.
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Punnyz
11/04/18 11:15:54 AM
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People are already speculating shes gonna make prematch planning even more of a pain

"We need a tank"

"*Picks Ashe*
Bob is a tank*"
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swordz9
11/04/18 11:19:12 AM
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Dynamite looks like a really good ability. Honestly looks better damage wise than her gun from the gameplay I saw.
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CoolCly
11/05/18 1:13:20 AM
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Anagram posted...
Original versions of Ashe
https://imgur.com/zLLGwe4


This isn't really true. It's more accurate to say these are early versions of Ashe. Not original versions.

I went to the LoreCraft panel at Blizzcon and they talked about a lot of different ways they come up with the stories and characters in the different games. One of the things they talked about was the creation of the McCree cinematic.

One of the earliest things they did was go to a concept artist and asked him to do some story boarding art to plan out what the cinematic would even be about. They just wanted a McCree cinematic.

So the first thing this guy did was come up with an expression for McCree's attitude. He had several thoughts and attempts and eventually came up with this.

https://imgur.com/TilJuUEg

This really sold McCrees even measured yet laid back demeanor really well. All of his art afterwards reflected this attitude. It's why McCree is just so cool in this cinematic. I could post pictures of the other concept art but eh. It's stuff like slicing the pie or grabbing his hat or shooting someone with his revolver. It's all done with that same even keel attitude

Next after developing this tone, he needed McCree's opponents. They didn't exist yet. They didn't mention this, but I think the only mandate for this was for Echo to show up at the end. Everything else was up to them. So one of the guys asking the artist for this said "lets try a big omnic and maybe a woman as a foil to McCree???" and the guy came up with this:

https://imgur.com/eCS0z5u

This is the very first original drawing of the Deadlock gang, including Ashe and Bob.

The guy asking for the art was like "ok, first of all, the robot with the hat is obviously great. The skull guy is cool but a little generic. But give me more about this woman."

So artist came up with more art

https://imgur.com/a/lfXD9al

They loved this stuff. She looks awesome. But there's a couple problems. First is that she's a little too vampire huntery. Very Van Helsing. Not quite as much into the western feel as she should be. But also a big problem is that she actually looks very similar to Reaper in overall style and in silhouette. If you saw one of them running by in a scene it would be a bit tough to tell which it is. I see that a lot here.

So the artist tried again, with the image Anagram linked.

https://imgur.com/zLLGwe4

Top left was *too* Westerny. She looks like a female version of McCree, which isn't quite what they wanted. Bottom left was too punk. Top middle is awesome but too white. They said they were gonna put that in their back pocket to use some day in the future.

I don't remember what they said about the right two. They are kinda close to how she ended up though. Maybe they said it was too close to Reaper again or something.

They iterated a little more and got to her final design and started animating the short and she was really coming to life. The art team was really loving her. So when it came to VA time they wanted someone really strong. There was a bit of elaboration of the process but I'll skip it - ultimately they ended up with Jennifer Hale who is a top tier voice actress (one of my favourites, tbh). They got her in teh room with Matt Mercer and it was awesome.

Then at some point in this process, the gameplay team saw what was going on with Ashe and were like "who the fuck is that????" and just started creating their own content for her... .and then she ended up being the next hero.
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CoolCly
11/05/18 1:15:47 AM
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I thought that was really fun insight into the design process.. Hearing the entire design process for her started as just a byproduct of making a McCree cinematic... and everyone involved just liked her more and more and added on to her more and more until somehow she became the next hero.

For the record, this is one of Bob's earliest character designs and his final design

https://imgur.com/a/FOegUp9

He barely changed at ALL

even in that original drawing his elements are really coming through

Ashe went through some iteration but Bob was an immediate home run.
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CoolCly
11/06/18 1:46:46 AM
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well I thought it was cool
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Grand Kirby
11/06/18 5:12:01 AM
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B.O.B. is so wonderful. I love how he flies away like Superman when the ult is over, how he slumps over depressed when Sombra hacks him, and apparently he waves back if you wave hello to him.
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ChaosTonyV4
11/06/18 9:55:09 AM
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CoolCly posted...
well I thought it was cool


I did too, thanks for the writeup.
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Grand Kirby
11/06/18 5:40:03 PM
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B.O.B. can also contest points by himself. He's the teammate I always wanted.
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Punnyz
11/06/18 5:46:29 PM
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Grand Kirby posted...
B.O.B. can also contest points by himself. He's the teammate I always wanted.

I really hope he'll be his own hero with Ashe backing him up
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CoolCly
11/07/18 12:26:33 PM
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Fun fact about McCree: his voice actor Matt Mercer was one of the judges for the talent contest, and he was delightful.

The other guests were Panser (TradeChat youtuber) and another woman in an Amazon cosplay I didn't recognize. After every cosplay or video or performance they'd basically be like "that was soooo good! like ... it was amazing! I loved it!""

Then Matt's turn to comment would come and he'd offer personalized insight like "as a Renaissance Fair guy myself, your song really captured the fun and camaraderie of hanging out with your friends at the inn" or "the editing in this video was really Scott Pilgrimesque, well done pulling off such a unique style" or "as someone who has cosplayed as Arthas, the detail on that armour is incredible. it's so difficult to make each piece so memorable." He'd also throw in some jokes and personal stories and just totally killed it.

Honestly it was comical how hard he was carrying that panel.

He also used the McCree voice really sparingly which I appreciated. Darin De Paul, the voice of Reinhardt, was the host of the contest and he throws that voice out non fucking stop. He was entertaining in his own way but man he takes things too far.

But Matt Mercer is the bomb.
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