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JonThePenguin 11/02/18 3:15:30 PM #1: |
Shows a bit of the next hero.
Gameplay trailer for Ashe: Also a trailer for Lucio-Ohs Ashe profile: https://playoverwatch.com/en-gb/heroes/ashe/ --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 11/02/18 3:15:54 PM #2: |
Ashe
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JonThePenguin 11/02/18 3:18:47 PM #3: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Ashe I like that Bob is included. --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 11/02/18 3:19:42 PM #4: |
So the "leaks" for Overwatch were debunked too
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Snake5555555555 11/02/18 3:27:29 PM #5: |
Ashe looks so fun! Great design too.
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Anagram 11/02/18 3:29:11 PM #6: |
I admit to laughing once when the robot sweat oil.
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KommunistKoala 11/02/18 3:31:23 PM #7: |
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swordz9 11/02/18 3:34:06 PM #8: |
So amazing. So hype. I want it all now
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Anagram 11/02/18 3:34:22 PM #9: |
Also, I don't know why you'd introduce a new character with a short of her getting completely defeated. Although "incompetent cowgirl who thinks she's awesome" would be a fantastic character concept.
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Punnyz 11/02/18 3:45:33 PM #10: |
so are we supposed to know who that robot chick was
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JonThePenguin 11/02/18 3:47:06 PM #11: |
Punnyz posted...
so are we supposed to know who that robot chick was Her names Echo, and from what Kaplan said onstage shes likely to be a hero sometime down the road. --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 11/02/18 3:49:25 PM #12: |
I thought it was Athena?
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Punnyz 11/02/18 3:58:40 PM #13: |
Anagram posted...
Also, I don't know why you'd introduce a new character with a short of her getting completely defeated. Although "incompetent cowgirl who thinks she's awesome" would be a fantastic character concept. That was McCree's character short not her introductory trailer she was not incompetent in her introductory trailer --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 11/02/18 4:00:52 PM #14: |
Punnyz posted...
That was McCree's character short It's the first thing we see of her in canon. When I watched the short, I assumed the new character would be one of the Omnics, I was surprised to see it was her. It's not like the Genji short where he defeats Hanzo, this is her with like six minions getting easily beaten by McCree after he announces his presence. If they made her a joke on purpose it would be funny, but I get the feeling I'm reading this wrong. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JonThePenguin 11/02/18 4:05:13 PM #15: |
swordz9 posted...
I thought it was Athena? Just for you I went back and double-checked myself in the Twitch archive. Definitely Echo, he said it three or four times. --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 11/02/18 4:09:01 PM #16: |
Oh, I didnt see any of the stuff other than what they added to their twitter so I missed all the in between commentary. I just assumed it was Athena when McCree said say hi to the monkey for me. Also I want BOB to be playable. His design is amazing
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Punnyz 11/02/18 5:12:20 PM #17: |
Anagram posted...
the first thing we see Reaper and widow do in canon is get their asses kicked by a 14 year old kid --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 11/02/18 5:20:17 PM #18: |
Rewatching the short
Yea, bob looks pretty longingly at the crate when he opens it He thought that robot chick was fine as hell and yea, Bob is awesome So is Ashe actually --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 11/02/18 5:21:05 PM #19: |
also I like how McCree is definitely going out of his way to not kill the humans
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Punnyz 11/02/18 5:23:45 PM #20: |
So yea, the "Sentient" citizen omnics, such as Zenyatta, can perma die despite being robots
but this short establishes that they CAN be rebuilt, as long as their heads are intact kinda interesting --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 11/02/18 5:28:43 PM #21: |
But yea, her style is interesting because shes like, a half sniper. Like how Brig is half a tank or half a healer
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Grand Kirby 11/02/18 5:41:24 PM #22: |
Looks another character for people to be terrible with and never switch off.
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swordz9 11/02/18 5:43:01 PM #23: |
Did they happen to say when the cereal will be sold in stores?
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JonThePenguin 11/02/18 5:57:23 PM #24: |
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Anagram 11/02/18 9:27:10 PM #25: |
Punnyz posted...
the first thing we see Reaper and widow do in canon is get their asses kicked by a 14 year old kid Didn't the fourteen year-old have Tracer, Winston, and the element of surprise? --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperNiceDog 11/02/18 9:28:10 PM #26: |
Snake5555555555 posted...
Ashe looks so fun! Great design too. wait isn't that a league of legends char too? --- GJ BK_Sheikah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 11/02/18 9:32:57 PM #27: |
from what I remember, The *"leak" said the new hero was a guy thats been shown before in a comic and a still of his portrait has been in one of the videos IIRC, he has the sides of his head shaved.
Apparently he had an attack where he throws a net on you and uses electricity and he works for Talon. I think he was gonna be their tank but what made the leak TOTALLY unbelievable IMO is that apparently they were gonna announce non-event PVE campaigns you have to unlock with coins but yea, obviously none of this happened so just lawl leaks in general m i rite guise --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperNiceDog 11/02/18 10:34:26 PM #28: |
too bad D.Va's 2nd round match wasn't today. She would win for sure.
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Anagram 11/03/18 12:45:13 AM #29: |
Original versions of Ashe
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Punnyz 11/03/18 12:51:20 AM #30: |
we could've had that black beauty?
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Anagram 11/03/18 1:07:17 AM #31: |
Punnyz posted...
we could've had that black beauty? I like her lasso, it seems more interesting than dynamite. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snake5555555555 11/03/18 2:31:52 AM #32: |
SuperNiceDog posted...
Snake5555555555 posted...Ashe looks so fun! Great design too. Yup --- If the suspense doesn't kill you, something else will! http://tinyurl.com/zqwzc9a - https://i.imgtc.com/3qwvxhc.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 11/03/18 3:09:14 AM #33: |
Also, McCree could have really used that mobility move that she has.
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Punnyz 11/03/18 2:15:42 PM #34: |
yea, considering hes a hitscan expected to fight Pharah, I agree
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RyoCaliente 11/03/18 3:58:16 PM #35: |
Anagram posted...
Punnyz posted...That was McCree's character short Yes, easily beaten. It definitely wasn't down to them having dropped a belt of grenades near him (which they had looted, meaning there was no way for her to prepare against it). She really got her ass handed to her, ho boy. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 11/03/18 4:16:09 PM #36: |
Looking at the information, they didn't decide to make her playable until after they finished the short. She was supposed to be someone for McCree to wreck.
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Punnyz 11/04/18 11:15:54 AM #37: |
People are already speculating shes gonna make prematch planning even more of a pain
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swordz9 11/04/18 11:19:12 AM #38: |
Dynamite looks like a really good ability. Honestly looks better damage wise than her gun from the gameplay I saw.
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CoolCly 11/05/18 1:13:20 AM #39: |
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Original versions of Ashe This isn't really true. It's more accurate to say these are early versions of Ashe. Not original versions. I went to the LoreCraft panel at Blizzcon and they talked about a lot of different ways they come up with the stories and characters in the different games. One of the things they talked about was the creation of the McCree cinematic. One of the earliest things they did was go to a concept artist and asked him to do some story boarding art to plan out what the cinematic would even be about. They just wanted a McCree cinematic. So the first thing this guy did was come up with an expression for McCree's attitude. He had several thoughts and attempts and eventually came up with this. https://imgur.com/TilJuUEg This really sold McCrees even measured yet laid back demeanor really well. All of his art afterwards reflected this attitude. It's why McCree is just so cool in this cinematic. I could post pictures of the other concept art but eh. It's stuff like slicing the pie or grabbing his hat or shooting someone with his revolver. It's all done with that same even keel attitude Next after developing this tone, he needed McCree's opponents. They didn't exist yet. They didn't mention this, but I think the only mandate for this was for Echo to show up at the end. Everything else was up to them. So one of the guys asking the artist for this said "lets try a big omnic and maybe a woman as a foil to McCree???" and the guy came up with this: https://imgur.com/eCS0z5u This is the very first original drawing of the Deadlock gang, including Ashe and Bob. The guy asking for the art was like "ok, first of all, the robot with the hat is obviously great. The skull guy is cool but a little generic. But give me more about this woman." So artist came up with more art https://imgur.com/a/lfXD9al They loved this stuff. She looks awesome. But there's a couple problems. First is that she's a little too vampire huntery. Very Van Helsing. Not quite as much into the western feel as she should be. But also a big problem is that she actually looks very similar to Reaper in overall style and in silhouette. If you saw one of them running by in a scene it would be a bit tough to tell which it is. I see that a lot here. So the artist tried again, with the image Anagram linked. https://imgur.com/zLLGwe4 Top left was *too* Westerny. She looks like a female version of McCree, which isn't quite what they wanted. Bottom left was too punk. Top middle is awesome but too white. They said they were gonna put that in their back pocket to use some day in the future. I don't remember what they said about the right two. They are kinda close to how she ended up though. Maybe they said it was too close to Reaper again or something. They iterated a little more and got to her final design and started animating the short and she was really coming to life. The art team was really loving her. So when it came to VA time they wanted someone really strong. There was a bit of elaboration of the process but I'll skip it - ultimately they ended up with Jennifer Hale who is a top tier voice actress (one of my favourites, tbh). They got her in teh room with Matt Mercer and it was awesome. Then at some point in this process, the gameplay team saw what was going on with Ashe and were like "who the fuck is that????" and just started creating their own content for her... .and then she ended up being the next hero. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 11/05/18 1:15:47 AM #40: |
I thought that was really fun insight into the design process.. Hearing the entire design process for her started as just a byproduct of making a McCree cinematic... and everyone involved just liked her more and more and added on to her more and more until somehow she became the next hero.
For the record, this is one of Bob's earliest character designs and his final design https://imgur.com/a/FOegUp9 He barely changed at ALL even in that original drawing his elements are really coming through Ashe went through some iteration but Bob was an immediate home run. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 11/06/18 1:46:46 AM #41: |
well I thought it was cool
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Grand Kirby 11/06/18 5:12:01 AM #42: |
B.O.B. is so wonderful. I love how he flies away like Superman when the ult is over, how he slumps over depressed when Sombra hacks him, and apparently he waves back if you wave hello to him.
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ChaosTonyV4 11/06/18 9:55:09 AM #43: |
CoolCly posted...
well I thought it was cool I did too, thanks for the writeup. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 11/06/18 5:40:03 PM #44: |
B.O.B. can also contest points by himself. He's the teammate I always wanted.
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Punnyz 11/06/18 5:46:29 PM #45: |
Grand Kirby posted...
B.O.B. can also contest points by himself. He's the teammate I always wanted. I really hope he'll be his own hero with Ashe backing him up --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 11/07/18 12:26:33 PM #46: |
Fun fact about McCree: his voice actor Matt Mercer was one of the judges for the talent contest, and he was delightful.
The other guests were Panser (TradeChat youtuber) and another woman in an Amazon cosplay I didn't recognize. After every cosplay or video or performance they'd basically be like "that was soooo good! like ... it was amazing! I loved it!"" Then Matt's turn to comment would come and he'd offer personalized insight like "as a Renaissance Fair guy myself, your song really captured the fun and camaraderie of hanging out with your friends at the inn" or "the editing in this video was really Scott Pilgrimesque, well done pulling off such a unique style" or "as someone who has cosplayed as Arthas, the detail on that armour is incredible. it's so difficult to make each piece so memorable." He'd also throw in some jokes and personal stories and just totally killed it. Honestly it was comical how hard he was carrying that panel. He also used the McCree voice really sparingly which I appreciated. Darin De Paul, the voice of Reinhardt, was the host of the contest and he throws that voice out non fucking stop. He was entertaining in his own way but man he takes things too far. But Matt Mercer is the bomb. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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