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Obellisk
11/02/18 12:03:53 PM
#251:


With all the power and confirmable being thrown around I fear a strong scum team this game.
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 12:04:41 PM
#252:


turbopuns2 posted...
Is scum in a hurry to spend two nights killing FFNut?


I wasn't suggesting scum would waste a kill on FFNut. That's silly. I just meant two nights worth of resources.

I reject the notion that scum always has a "useless" power. Information gathering roles are not useless.
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htaeD
11/02/18 12:09:41 PM
#253:


Oh. I see how that sentence works now.
Honestly scum probably wont waste resources right away if only because the role is no threat to them (as opposed to a doc or cop)

(Also in my experience, scanning roles on scum lose their use fast.)
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KanzarisKelshen
11/02/18 12:23:02 PM
#254:


Hey guys, sorry for the radio silence, my computer is bricked over a windows update atm

I'll read over the topic at work in like an hourish. Just wanted to let y'all know I'm here and know the topic exists.
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greengravy294
11/02/18 12:34:08 PM
#255:


Wow this game started in a hurry

I havent read anything beyond the top of page 6 so maybe i should read the start huh
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 12:35:01 PM
#256:


I look forward to gravy's assessment.
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Obellisk
11/02/18 12:41:29 PM
#257:


If only Han showed up right now too... The coincidence would be too much.
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greengravy294
11/02/18 12:50:35 PM
#258:


Well I am currently naked, wet, and in the midst of drying off

If you want a tldr then that will suffice otherwise assessments will have to wait after phone calls =(
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htaeD
11/02/18 12:51:14 PM
#259:


Obellisk posted...
If only Han showed up right now too... The coincidence would be too much.


I dont get it
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Obellisk
11/02/18 12:56:27 PM
#260:


htaeD posted...
Obellisk posted...
If only Han showed up right now too... The coincidence would be too much.


I dont get it


There were three people yet to show.

Kanz gravy and Han.
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htaeD
11/02/18 12:57:13 PM
#261:


Ah
Han clearly is scum then
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Obellisk
11/02/18 12:57:37 PM
#262:


greengravy294 posted...
Well I am currently naked, wet, and in the midst of drying off


I'm aroused.
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Obellisk
11/02/18 12:58:00 PM
#263:


htaeD posted...
Ah
Han clearly is scum then


I mean, could it possibly mean anything else?
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 1:16:58 PM
#264:


Chris has suggested we lynch me today because town wouldn't lose anything.

Anyone want to agree or disagree with this plan?
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FFnut
11/02/18 1:29:13 PM
#265:


Corrik posted...
Also FFnut is probably idiotic town. Now scum just uses a worthless ability on you night 1 and blows ur power for the game.

Better than town using a useful ability on me night 1 and blowing my power for the game. And with everyone going "OMG SO PRO-TOWN" after my analysis post I was pretty much doc-bait anyway. I'd rather have scum blow an extra ability use, regardless of how relatively useless it may be, than have town be the ones to blow my power and an ability use.

turbopuns2 posted...
Chris has suggested we lynch me today because town wouldn't lose anything.

Anyone want to agree or disagree with this plan?

I'm not wholly against it, but we're not even a third of a way through D1, so we should at least see what shakes out. Especially since our last three Ultimates have yet to participate very much.

Plus, I'm not entirely sure I trust you about how your power works yet. Gonna go back and review some more later today.
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Obellisk
11/02/18 1:30:37 PM
#266:


turbopuns2 posted...
Chris has suggested we lynch me today because town wouldn't lose anything.

Anyone want to agree or disagree with this plan?


With my horrible math and thinking on scenarios where it's a 4 or 5 man scum team I think we actually gain a day if we lynch you and keep your vote.

So in that respect I think it's a good idea. That's assuming it lasts all game.

However if we have a better lynch than you I think we should aim for something scummier.

Mind you chris thinks you scum so really it's a win win for him assuming he's town.

With all that said, would scum chris want to risk a lynch on someone who doesn't benefit his team?

Town points for Chris at the moment.
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htaeD
11/02/18 1:31:28 PM
#267:


Hmm.
If you are town... being townconfirmed probably wont make scum automatically kill you, because of your role.
And if you are scum, we kill scum anyway.

Its a decent fallback plan.
That said, no need to lock the day down already.
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htaeD
11/02/18 1:33:01 PM
#268:


Sbell, I am not sure why you'd award Chris points for that when he locked on to Puns before Puns even revealed his claim
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benjamin3740
11/02/18 1:35:28 PM
#269:


What are you fools doing?! Wasting your time looking for some kind of scum Mastermind? It doesn't matter WHO you kill. All that matters is graduation!

[2] Puns - Chris, Corrik
[1] FD - Puns
[1] Pirate - FD
[1] Corrik - Pirate
[0] Chris - (Pirate)

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turbopuns2
11/02/18 1:38:26 PM
#270:


benjamin3740 posted...
What are you fools doing?! Wasting your time looking for some kind of scum Mastermind?


benjamin3740 posted...
[2] Puns - Chris, Corrik


Clearly the host is trying to tell us something~~
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Obellisk
11/02/18 1:38:35 PM
#271:


htaeD posted...
Sbell, I am not sure why you'd award Chris points for that when he locked on to Puns before Puns even revealed his claim


First few pages of votes can never be relied on for true meaning.

I don't think scum ponders the thought that lynching someone but not removing a vote in game would be beneficial.
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Obellisk
11/02/18 1:39:46 PM
#272:


benjamin3740 posted...
It doesn't matter WHO you kill. All that matters is graduation!


What if there is no scum and we literally keep killing each other till it's down to 1 and puns vote from beyond the grave is the decider...
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 1:40:23 PM
#273:


Scum could ponder lynching someone who they thought might be lying about their role.
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Obellisk
11/02/18 1:42:39 PM
#274:


turbopuns2 posted...
Scum could ponder lynching someone who they thought might be lying about their role.


Well that's true. There are a lot of ifs and buts.
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 1:44:40 PM
#275:


Heh, I was about to say this would be a ridiculous play for me to lie about, buuuut...I would totally do this as scum and dare town to lynch me just for shits and giggles. Especially if there was some way for my scum team to reap some benefit from my death.
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 1:46:09 PM
#276:


htaeD posted...
If you are town... being townconfirmed probably wont make scum automatically kill you, because of your role.


Can you rephrase this?
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:05:05 PM
#277:


Ugh. You guys. This lunch break was almost entirely wasted because nobody is posting.

Grumble grumble grumble...
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greengravy294
11/02/18 2:07:38 PM
#278:


##vote: pirate harris

I feel like hes lying about his role. Call it a hunch. No point disclosing you're vanilla for no reason at all.

Did a fast scan.
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greengravy294
11/02/18 2:10:52 PM
#279:


That said, FFnuts ability claim initially kind of reads to me as something scum may be given. No read otherwise. I believe he is telling the truth about having it however.

If chris has that ability I'll actually kinda laugh since the last time he got gambler he kinda destroyed scum single handedly
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:16:23 PM
#280:


You seriously have nothing to say about me?
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:17:49 PM
#281:


FD you are off the hook, for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: greengravy294
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:20:04 PM
#282:


I typed the full official username so you know it's srsbsnss
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greengravy294
11/02/18 2:22:06 PM
#283:


not much no

i dont have many outstanding thoughts about a death voter or whatever you are. seems like a badly designed role though
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:23:13 PM
#284:


greengravy294 posted...
i dont have many outstanding thoughts about a death voter or whatever you are.


or maybe I'm lying....?
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greengravy294
11/02/18 2:26:01 PM
#285:


dunno

i mean youre asking to be lynched, so that seems rather dumb

i also have on multiple occasions considered running a death role (in my games) but always cut it because its a dumb role. which leads to credence that you might in fact have a dumb role.
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:27:33 PM
#286:


I never asked to be lynched.

It was suggested and I was like "whatever" but I have never once indicated I think that I should be lynched.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/02/18 2:27:45 PM
#287:


OK, have read the game

-Agree Nut reads as town. He just seems too sincere and trying and that kinda posts brings attention to him which is a very stupid scum move to make.

-Don't like the way death said 'Harris is evidently town. I haven't seen how he played in monster mafia but I believe the evidence presented so far'. It feels contradictory - how is taking someone else's word at face value evidential like that?

-Puns/Chris slapfight is a nulltell so far. Wanna see a bit more from it. Speaking of this though...

Hey Chris, let's cut right to the chase. If you're truly reverse day gambler, then trust me and bet your life on me. This is the power move. We know it is, no less. There's no bigger gain for town on day 1 than eliminating the #1 source of Board 8 Special day 1 lynches. I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm ready to get this ball rolling ASAP. Let's make this happen.
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:30:49 PM
#288:


Like, obviously. If you believe I'm honest town, it still makes no sense for me to want to spend day 1 throwing away a possible scum lynch just to confirm my inevitably-will-be-comfirmed-no-matter-what self.

Keep in mind I am toppest tier in B8 history in terms of career mislynch percentage. I am not a town player who ever considers being mislynched a possibility.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/02/18 2:31:33 PM
#289:


turbopuns2 posted...
Like, obviously. If you believe I'm honest town, it still makes no sense for me to want to spend day 1 throwing away a possible scum lynch just to confirm my inevitably-will-be-comfirmed-no-matter-what self.

Keep in mind I am toppest tier in B8 history in terms of career mislynch percentage. I am not a town player who ever considers being mislynched a possibility.


What does this mean

that you top the charts in terms of being mislynched or that you are the ultimate correct lyncher?
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greengravy294
11/02/18 2:31:53 PM
#290:


'asking to be lynched' is figuratively speaking

assuming you are a death voter and die (and are town), the actual net loss of votes is 0. so lynching you at any point besides mylo/lylo is probably risk free. which means if you are scum, this is rather incredibly dumb. towns can become complacent and thus "oh, well, i have no better idea lets lynch the guy that claims once dead he still can play" and then its like "oh ok" and then it happens and etc
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Obellisk
11/02/18 2:33:03 PM
#291:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm ready to get this ball rolling ASAP.


So you haven't run out of gum yet?
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htaeD
11/02/18 2:33:22 PM
#292:


Obellisk posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
It doesn't matter WHO you kill. All that matters is graduation!


What if there is no scum and we literally keep killing each other till it's down to 1 and puns vote from beyond the grave is the decider...


A true dangan ronpa game would have nobody start as scum, and each night there is one player who chooses to make a kill on his own.
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:33:29 PM
#293:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Hey Chris, let's cut right to the chase. If you're truly reverse day gambler, then trust me and bet your life on me. This is the power move. We know it is, no less. There's no bigger gain for town on day 1 than eliminating the #1 source of Board 8 Special day 1 lynches. I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm ready to get this ball rolling ASAP. Let's make this happen.


LOL
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htaeD
11/02/18 2:34:58 PM
#294:


turbopuns2 posted...
htaeD posted...
If you are town... being townconfirmed probably wont make scum automatically kill you, because of your role.


Can you rephrase this?


Sorry.
I mean that scum usually just kills whoever gets confirmed by a gambler the next night.
But with a role like you claimed, scum doesnt benefit much from killing it because they can still talk and vote.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/02/18 2:35:31 PM
#295:


Obellisk posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm ready to get this ball rolling ASAP.


So you haven't run out of gum yet?


Nah, got half a pack with me still. Splitting my time between both until I run out.
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htaeD
11/02/18 2:36:45 PM
#296:


greengravy294 posted...
not much no

i dont have many outstanding thoughts about a death voter or whatever you are. seems like a badly designed role though


We sorta had the same role two games ago. Only that one faded out after a day
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turbopuns2
11/02/18 2:39:20 PM
#297:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
What does this mean

that you top the charts in terms of being mislynched or that you are the ultimate correct lyncher?


What I mean is I've played mafia here since 2010, quite actively, and I've been lynched as town exactly 3 times (but really just 2).

One (the one that doesn't count) was a horrible game where it was MyLo and town was so inactive that scum felt confident enough to just pile onto any ol' townie right before deadline because we didn't consolidate our votes. Hardly counts as a "mislynch" considering 0 town voted me.

One was a final 3 where the other guy just got overcome by paranoia.

One was a day 1 where I had a legit brain fart and made a "perspective slip" because I interchanged the word town with scum or something to that effect, and people couldn't get over it.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/02/18 2:40:49 PM
#298:


OK, that makes sense

What do you think about Corrik puns? What's your take on him?
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htaeD
11/02/18 2:41:52 PM
#299:


-Don't like the way death said 'Harris is evidently town. I haven't seen how he played in monster mafia but I believe the evidence presented so far'. It feels contradictory - how is taking someone else's word at face value evidential like that?


Thats a pretty gross mutilation of my actual sentence there, Kanz.

I did use the word 'evidently'. But I use that word like I use 'apparently'. As in 'apparently harris reacted way different in monster mafia'
I may be using the wrong word there.
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htaeD
11/02/18 2:42:48 PM
#300:


turbopuns2 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
What does this mean

that you top the charts in terms of being mislynched or that you are the ultimate correct lyncher?


What I mean is I've played mafia here since 2010, quite actively, and I've been lynched as town exactly 3 times (but really just 2).

One (the one that doesn't count) was a horrible game where it was MyLo and town was so inactive that scum felt confident enough to just pile onto any ol' townie right before deadline because we didn't consolidate our votes. Hardly counts as a "mislynch" considering 0 town voted me.

One was a final 3 where the other guy just got overcome by paranoia.

One was a day 1 where I had a legit brain fart and made a "perspective slip" because I interchanged the word town with scum or something to that effect, and people couldn't get over it.


I somehow feel like I was responsible for at least two of those, for good or bad.
lol
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