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emblem boy 11/01/18 9:15:57 PM #51:	monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... That would be pretty terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But I don't think it would change my belief in the principle that the state should not kill people, especially when any threat they pose has already been contained. Even if I personally wanted revenge, it should not be the role of the state to deal it out. It changes nothing. some people gain comfort knowing that the person who brutally killed their loved one is dead. and at that point that's what matters, not the life of some monster. why not leave it up to the relatives of the dead. It's not up to the state to give them that type of benefit. They can do their own dirty work(not that I support that either) --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:911631397] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote> Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. </quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... </quote> That would be pretty terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But I don't think it would change my belief in the principle that the state should not kill people, especially when any threat they pose has already been contained. Even if I personally wanted revenge, it should not be the role of the state to deal it out. It changes nothing.</quote> some people gain comfort knowing that the person who brutally killed their loved one is dead. and at that point that's what matters, not the life of some monster. why not leave it up to the relatives of the dead.</quote> It's not up to the state to give them that type of benefit. They can do their own dirty work(not that I support that either)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 11/01/18 9:19:25 PM #52:	Firm yes. --- \|)\|_ \|_\_/\|)\|_\|)\| - RE expert44 \|\\|__ \|__/\\| \|__\|\_\| This is RE expert44 (b^.^b)Have a nice day... <cite>Middle hope posted [p:911631639] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>Firm yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 11/01/18 9:21:27 PM #53:	In theory yes. In practice, no. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. I came here to laugh at you. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:911631783] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>In theory yes. In practice, no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
omega cookie 11/01/18 9:22:48 PM #54:	All premeditated violent crime should carry a minimum of fifteen to life, and a maximum of the death penalty. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog FFBE: 885,063,087 - Orlandeau - 931 ATK <cite>omega cookie posted [p:911631888] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>All premeditated violent crime should carry a minimum of fifteen to life, and a maximum of the death penalty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/01/18 10:17:47 PM #55:	Anisoptera posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... Murderers get put into maximum security with other murderers and aren't treated very nicely. The food is bad and they have very little freedom. They are hardly ever safe and death would be a release. Yeah it's a real shit hole I hear. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:911635744] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anisoptera posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> Murderers get put into maximum security with other murderers and aren't treated very nicely. The food is bad and they have very little freedom. They are hardly ever safe and death would be a release.</quote> Yeah it's a real shit hole I hear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/01/18 10:18:53 PM #56:	alt_no_1_loves posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... That would be pretty terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But I don't think it would change my belief in the principle that the state should not kill people, especially when any threat they pose has already been contained. Even if I personally wanted revenge, it should not be the role of the state to deal it out. It changes nothing. Hard to say until it happens to you. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:911635823] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> That would be pretty terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But I don't think it would change my belief in the principle that the state should not kill people, especially when any threat they pose has already been contained. Even if I personally wanted revenge, it should not be the role of the state to deal it out. It changes nothing.</quote> Hard to say until it happens to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forlorn_Ass 11/01/18 10:20:43 PM #57:	There are people that do very bad things that I'd like to see put to death but the fact that it's possible to execute an innocent person prevents me from supporting the death penalty. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Forlorn_Ass posted [p:911635944] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>There are people that do very bad things that I'd like to see put to death but the fact that it's possible to execute an innocent person prevents me from supporting the death penalty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fus647 11/01/18 10:21:22 PM #58:	sure <cite>fus647 posted [p:911635986] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/01/18 10:21:23 PM #59:	No. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:911635987] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 11/02/18 5:58:44 AM #60:	monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion. <cite>knutjob posted [p:911653088] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 11/02/18 6:22:39 AM #61:	Funkydog posted... That's not what justice should be about ultimately. What that is, is providing revenge and a justice system needs to be more "detached" to ensure it can act fairly and not simply on emotion. Please explain how the system is ever fair even under the most strict and punitive scenarios, considering that murderers fulfill their sentence with food, clothing, medical care, recreational activities, work and education opportunities, visitation rights and shelter, and are sometimes given freedom through parole, even though their victims are dead (i.e. permanently gone). The system is not fair to victims and their families, so let's stop pretending it is or that it will ever be. Keep in mind how difficult it is to even get an arrest that leads to a conviction. The only reason why I'm not 100 percent in favor of executing certain criminals is because there are the rare cases of an innocent man going to prison. If we had an error-free system, I would not care about these pond scum prisoners and I bet many people would feel the same. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:911653570] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>That's not what justice should be about ultimately. What that is, is providing revenge and a justice system needs to be more "detached" to ensure it can act fairly and not simply on emotion.</quote> Please explain how the system is ever fair even under the most strict and punitive scenarios, considering that murderers fulfill their sentence with food, clothing, medical care, recreational activities, work and education opportunities, visitation rights and shelter, and are sometimes given freedom through parole, even though their victims are dead (i.e. permanently gone). The system is not fair to victims and their families, so let's stop pretending it is or that it will ever be. Keep in mind how difficult it is to even get an arrest that leads to a conviction. The only reason why I'm not 100 percent in favor of executing certain criminals is because there are the rare cases of an innocent man going to prison. If we had an error-free system, I would not care about these pond scum prisoners and I bet many people would feel the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hulkasaurusrex 11/02/18 6:34:57 AM #62:	Yes and before any of you say no i would like to point you towards a little place called live leaks enjoy. <cite>Hulkasaurusrex posted [p:911653824] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>Yes and before any of you say no i would like to point you towards a little place called live leaks enjoy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/02/18 9:56:13 AM #63:	knutjob posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion. Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:911660075] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion.</quote> Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 11/02/18 9:58:05 AM #64:	Yeah, just not all the legal loopholes that let inmates cartwheel through the courts for 20 years to delay it and waste taxpayer dollars. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:911660149] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, just not all the legal loopholes that let inmates cartwheel through the courts for 20 years to delay it and waste taxpayer dollars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 11/02/18 10:06:49 AM #65:	I think I support it in theory, but not the way it's done in the US. If it takes 30 years to apply it and costs much more than a life sentence, it's pointless. I don't want to pay to house and feed a child murderer for the rest of his/her life. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:911660504] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>I think I support it in theory, but not the way it's done in the US. If it takes 30 years to apply it and costs much more than a life sentence, it's pointless. I don't want to pay to house and feed a child murderer for the rest of his/her life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hulkasaurusrex 11/02/18 10:12:54 AM #66:	There are people in this world who would rape a baby there are also people who find them. I dont think we deal with certain people properly. <cite>Hulkasaurusrex posted [p:911660761] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>There are people in this world who would rape a baby there are also people who find them. I dont think we deal with certain people properly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thecrazyfrog 11/02/18 10:41:16 AM #67:	Only if - The suspect can be proven to have committed the crime. The suspect is unremorseful and cannot be changed in a significant enough way that they earn the right to be released back into society. Unfortunately both of these areas have a landslide of possibilities within them which could lead to errors and I don't think this will ever change. <cite>thecrazyfrog posted [p:911662100] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>Only if - The suspect can be proven to have committed the crime. The suspect is unremorseful and cannot be changed in a significant enough way that they earn the right to be released back into society. Unfortunately both of these areas have a landslide of possibilities within them which could lead to errors and I don't think this will ever change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 11/02/18 10:44:09 AM #68:	Yes, but I think direct video evidence or a large amount of reputable witnesses should be required before it is handed down. If there is any doubt whatsoever, life should be the maximum. <cite>nemu posted [p:911662258] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>Yes, but I think direct video evidence or a large amount of reputable witnesses should be required before it is handed down. If there is any doubt whatsoever, life should be the maximum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drumiester 11/02/18 10:47:21 AM #69:	A lifetime in prison is far more satisfying than a quick death --- Currently Playing: Sonic Mania I Love Sasha Banks and Lana! <cite>Drumiester posted [p:911662434] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>A lifetime in prison is far more satisfying than a quick death</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 11/02/18 11:34:05 AM #70:	Cocytus posted... knutjob posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion. Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes. Feels over reals? <cite>knutjob posted [p:911665105] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion.</quote> Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes.</quote> Feels over reals?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/02/18 12:53:05 PM #71:	knutjob posted... Cocytus posted... knutjob posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion. Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes. Feels over reals? Feelings aren't valid? <cite>Cocytus posted [p:911669886] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion.</quote> Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes.</quote> Feels over reals?</quote> Feelings aren't valid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 11/02/18 2:09:57 PM #72:	Nazanir posted... Here is the thing: if you go by the "eye for an eye" philosophy, everyone will end up blind. Actually, no. "Eye for an eye" just means that you believe in treating others the way they treat you or that you want to be treated. If you don't want others hurting you, don't hurt others. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:911674721] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>Here is the thing: if you go by the "eye for an eye" philosophy, everyone will end up blind.</quote> Actually, no. "Eye for an eye" just means that you believe in treating others the way they treat you or that you want to be treated. If you don't want others hurting you, don't hurt others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 11/02/18 2:46:19 PM #73:	Cocytus posted... knutjob posted... Cocytus posted... knutjob posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion. Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes. Feels over reals? Feelings aren't valid? I think the law and justice should be objective. <cite>knutjob posted [p:911677211] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion.</quote> Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes.</quote> Feels over reals?</quote> Feelings aren't valid?</quote> I think the law and justice should be objective.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/02/18 2:54:07 PM #74:	knutjob posted... Cocytus posted... knutjob posted... Cocytus posted... knutjob posted... monkmith posted... alt_no_1_loves posted... Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder. guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion... This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion. Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes. Feels over reals? Feelings aren't valid? I think the law and justice should be objective. I do too, I'm just saying we shouldn't negate emotions as being inert or invalid. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:911677810] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cocytus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote><cite>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote><cite>alt_no_1_loves posted...</cite> <quote>Completely opposed to the death penalty in all cases. Once the state has a person in custody, there's no way to view executing them as anything but murder. And I don't think states should be in the business of murder.</quote> guy rapes and murders your daughter, dose it to a couple dozen others, i bet you'd change your opinion...</quote> This isn't an argument but rather a worthless appeal to emotion.</quote> Appeal to emotions is still a tactical argument, it can trump reason sometimes.</quote> Feels over reals?</quote> Feelings aren't valid?</quote> I think the law and justice should be objective.</quote> I do too, I'm just saying we shouldn't negate emotions as being inert or invalid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GS4Life 11/02/18 3:05:42 PM #75:	I support the idea but unless it's a mass shooter or something caught in the act it's hard to have absolute proof. --- -Grove Street 4 Life- If you were able would you go change the past to mend a faux pas with one last chance <cite>GS4Life posted [p:911678626] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote>I support the idea but unless it's a mass shooter or something caught in the act it's hard to have absolute proof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 11/02/18 3:08:00 PM #76:	GS4Life posted... I support the idea but unless it's a mass shooter or something caught in the act it's hard to have absolute proof. That's kind of my standard too, caught in the act, blatantly obvious. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:911678791] in Do you sup... [t:77158670]...</cite> <quote><cite>GS4Life posted...</cite> <quote>I support the idea but unless it's a mass shooter or something caught in the act it's hard to have absolute proof.</quote> That's kind of my standard too, caught in the act, blatantly obvious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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