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Antifar 11/01/18 2:55:02 PM #1:	https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/north-dakota-native-americans-votes-stolen.html On Oct. 14, Dion Jackson mailed in an absentee ballot application for the upcoming election. Jackson, an enrolled member of the Spirit Lake Tribe who lives on the Spirit Lake Reservation in North Dakota, is an American who is qualified to vote. But on Oct. 22, he received a letter explaining that his application had been rejected. The street address that Jackson had listedthe one that appears on his state-issued IDwas invalid, the letter explained. If he did not take further action, he would not be allowed to vote in the midterm election. There is no street sign identifying Jacksons street. There is no number on his house. A state database identifies his street as Unknown2. Jackson would not be permitted to vote because, according to the state, he has no real address. Jacksons struggle is currently playing out across North Dakota. A stringent new law that requires all voters to prove their residential street address has placed an immense burden on Native Americans in the state. Many live on rural reservations in houses with no residential address, rendering them incapable of casting a ballot. Earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to block a lower court decision upholding this rule, over a pointed dissent by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Now Native American voters are back in court, asking a federal judge to grant them relief. This time, they arent just arguing that the law makes voting more onerous. Theyve demonstrated that the law may make it impossible for them to vote at all. ... For decades, North Dakotans could vote with a valid residential or mailing address, which allowed rural tribal voters to use their P.O. Box as identification. After Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp triumphed in 2012 by fewer than 3,000 votes, Republicans altered the law. Heitkamp won with strong support from Native Americans, so the GOP passed legislation that targeted their access to the franchise. The new law compels voters to present an ID at the polls that lists their current residential (not mailing) addressor, if voting by absentee ballot, provide one that corresponds to a state database. U.S. District Judge Daniel L. Hovland blocked that requirement in April, citing its discriminatory and burdensome impact on Native Americans. He noted that if the law takes full effect in November, it will prevent about 5,000 Native American voters from casting a ballot. Yet the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reversed Hovland by a 21 vote in September, allowing the state to enforce its residential street address rule for most voters. At the end of its opinion, however, the majority signaled that it was open to more limited relief: If any resident of North Dakota lacks a current residential street address and is denied an opportunity to vote on that basis, it wrote, the courthouse doors remain open. The plaintiffs in this latest lawsuit take the majority at its word. Using maps, photographs, and GPS, they explain the bind that North Dakota has placed them in. There are no street signs to identify the roads on which their houses are located. In some instances, the state has given them conflicting information about their residential address. Consider these quandaries: Leslie and Clark Peltier are enrolled members of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians who live on reservation trust land. Their rural home has no address. During the 2012 election, a county representative assigned them the address 10296 40th Ave. NE, with no town or ZIP code. When they obtained drivers licenses, the state identified their town as Belcourt, North Dakota, 58316. But the secretary of states database lists their town as St. John, North Dakota, 58369. They cannot vote unless they resolve this discrepancyyet they have no apparent way of doing so. ...continued --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:911603334] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/north-dakota-native-americans-votes-stolen.html <quote>On Oct. 14, Dion Jackson mailed in an absentee ballot application for the upcoming election. Jackson, an enrolled member of the Spirit Lake Tribe who lives on the Spirit Lake Reservation in North Dakota, is an American who is qualified to vote. But on Oct. 22, he received a letter explaining that his application had been rejected. The street address that Jackson had listedthe one that appears on his state-issued IDwas invalid, the letter explained. If he did not take further action, he would not be allowed to vote in the midterm election. There is no street sign identifying Jacksons street. There is no number on his house. A state database identifies his street as Unknown2. Jackson would not be permitted to vote because, according to the state, he has no real address. Jacksons struggle is currently playing out across North Dakota. A stringent new law that requires all voters to prove their residential street address has placed an immense burden on Native Americans in the state. Many live on rural reservations in houses with no residential address, rendering them incapable of casting a ballot. Earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to block a lower court decision upholding this rule, over a pointed dissent by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Now Native American voters are back in court, asking a federal judge to grant them relief. This time, they arent just arguing that the law makes voting more onerous. Theyve demonstrated that the law may make it impossible for them to vote at all. ... For decades, North Dakotans could vote with a valid residential or mailing address, which allowed rural tribal voters to use their P.O. Box as identification. After Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp triumphed in 2012 by fewer than 3,000 votes, Republicans altered the law. Heitkamp won with strong support from Native Americans, so the GOP passed legislation that targeted their access to the franchise. The new law compels voters to present an ID at the polls that lists their current residential (not mailing) addressor, if voting by absentee ballot, provide one that corresponds to a state database. U.S. District Judge Daniel L. Hovland blocked that requirement in April, citing its discriminatory and burdensome impact on Native Americans. He noted that if the law takes full effect in November, it will prevent about 5,000 Native American voters from casting a ballot. Yet the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reversed Hovland by a 21 vote in September, allowing the state to enforce its residential street address rule for most voters. At the end of its opinion, however, the majority signaled that it was open to more limited relief: If any resident of North Dakota lacks a current residential street address and is denied an opportunity to vote on that basis, it wrote, the courthouse doors remain open. The plaintiffs in this latest lawsuit take the majority at its word. Using maps, photographs, and GPS, they explain the bind that North Dakota has placed them in. There are no street signs to identify the roads on which their houses are located. In some instances, the state has given them conflicting information about their residential address. Consider these quandaries: Leslie and Clark Peltier are enrolled members of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians who live on reservation trust land. Their rural home has no address. During the 2012 election, a county representative assigned them the address 10296 40th Ave. NE, with no town or ZIP code. When they obtained drivers licenses, the state identified their town as Belcourt, North Dakota, 58316. But the secretary of states database lists their town as St. John, North Dakota, 58369. They cannot vote unless they resolve this discrepancyyet they have no apparent way of doing so. ...continued</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burgess 11/01/18 2:55:29 PM #2:	It's not even real. --- Burgess [Z?] ...follow the Mod that failed. "All that typing made me have to crap."~Dark Magic Vixen <cite>Burgess posted [p:911603363] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>It's not even real.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 11/01/18 2:56:01 PM #3:	Fuck you, North Dakota. -Former North Dakota resident --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:911603402] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Fuck you, North Dakota. -Former North Dakota resident</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 11/01/18 2:56:24 PM #4:	Antifar posted... For decades, North Dakotans could vote with a valid residential or mailing address, which allowed rural tribal voters to use their P.O. Box as identification. After Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp triumphed in 2012 by fewer than 3,000 votes, Republicans altered the law. Heitkamp won with strong support from Native Americans, so the GOP passed legislation that targeted their access to the franchise. The new law compels voters to present an ID at the polls that lists their current residential (not mailing) addressor, if voting by absentee ballot, provide one that corresponds to a state database. Oh those crafty republicans --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:911603439] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>For decades, North Dakotans could vote with a valid residential or mailing address, which allowed rural tribal voters to use their P.O. Box as identification. After Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp triumphed in 2012 by fewer than 3,000 votes, Republicans altered the law. Heitkamp won with strong support from Native Americans, so the GOP passed legislation that targeted their access to the franchise. The new law compels voters to present an ID at the polls that lists their current residential (not mailing) addressor, if voting by absentee ballot, provide one that corresponds to a state database.</quote> Oh those crafty republicans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unimpressed 11/01/18 2:56:55 PM #5:	Antifar posted... After Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp triumphed in 2012 by fewer than 3,000 votes, Republicans altered the law. Heitkamp won with strong support from Native Americans, so the GOP passed legislation that targeted their access to the franchise This is absolutely ridiculous that it's allowed to occur --- By Whining <cite>Unimpressed posted [p:911603480] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>After Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp triumphed in 2012 by fewer than 3,000 votes, Republicans altered the law. Heitkamp won with strong support from Native Americans, so the GOP passed legislation that targeted their access to the franchise</quote> This is absolutely ridiculous that it's allowed to occur</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 11/01/18 2:57:42 PM #6:	Only in the south... --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:911603539] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Only in the south...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 11/01/18 2:59:19 PM #7:	The new Jim Crow <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:911603642] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>The new Jim Crow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/01/18 3:00:14 PM #8:	So they got butthurt and undermined the voting population difference that saw a Democrat elected? Yikes. --- Washable toilet paper. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:911603701] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>So they got butthurt and undermined the voting population difference that saw a Democrat elected? Yikes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 11/01/18 3:00:44 PM #9:	Were_Wyrm posted... Only in the south... i c wut u did thar --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:911603743] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Were_Wyrm posted...</cite> <quote>Only in the south...</quote> i c wut u did thar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 11/01/18 3:01:19 PM #10:	I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:911603791] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsAnIndependent 11/01/18 3:02:14 PM #11:	Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election --- Biased to truth and justice <cite>AsAnIndependent posted [p:911603863] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unimpressed 11/01/18 3:02:57 PM #12:	AsAnIndependent posted... Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years --- By Whining <cite>Unimpressed posted [p:911603910] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election</quote> Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 11/01/18 3:03:01 PM #13:	BLAKUboy posted... I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback. They aren't long term thinkers. And even if this does work longterm they only invite violence as they silence the voices of the people. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:911603913] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback.</quote> They aren't long term thinkers. And even if this does work longterm they only invite violence as they silence the voices of the people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/01/18 3:03:21 PM #14:	Its so fucked up how disenfranchising voters is an ingrained part of the Republican Party. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:911603942] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Its so fucked up how disenfranchising voters is an ingrained part of the Republican Party.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsAnIndependent 11/01/18 3:03:30 PM #15:	Unimpressed posted... AsAnIndependent posted... Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years yes democrats have always said its unfair --- Biased to truth and justice <cite>AsAnIndependent posted [p:911603953] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unimpressed posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election</quote> Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years</quote> yes democrats have always said its unfair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/01/18 3:03:52 PM #16:	BLAKUboy posted... I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback. In their minds the name of the game is making it so the Dems never get power again That was the whole point with their plan to gerrymander themselves into power after winning in 2010 --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:911603973] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback.</quote> In their minds the name of the game is making it so the Dems never get power again That was the whole point with their plan to gerrymander themselves into power after winning in 2010</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 11/01/18 3:05:11 PM #17:	AsAnIndependent is a 4 karma alt fyi. Probably one of the usual suspects who has their main on lock atm. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:911604050] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>AsAnIndependent is a 4 karma alt fyi. Probably one of the usual suspects who has their main on lock atm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/01/18 3:06:09 PM #18:	AsAnIndependent posted... Unimpressed posted... AsAnIndependent posted... Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years yes democrats have always said its unfair Well I don't like "all-or-nothing". It needs to be proportional in some fashion to the voting population. Instead Florida gets a 1% margin and 29 votes go to one candidate. It's nonsense. We should not be a pivotal electoral state when our population is firmly swing. --- Washable toilet paper. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:911604117] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unimpressed posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election</quote> Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years</quote> yes democrats have always said its unfair</quote> Well I don't like "all-or-nothing". It needs to be proportional in some fashion to the voting population. Instead Florida gets a 1% margin and 29 votes go to one candidate. It's nonsense. We should not be a pivotal electoral state when our population is firmly swing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unimpressed 11/01/18 3:06:30 PM #19:	AsAnIndependent posted... Unimpressed posted... AsAnIndependent posted... Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years yes democrats have always said its unfair https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/electoral-college-favors-republicans-democrats-geographically-concentrated/ That's a strongly right website --- By Whining <cite>Unimpressed posted [p:911604144] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unimpressed posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds a lot like wanting to get rid of the electoral college after losing a presidential election</quote> Stop being disingenuous, people have wanted to do away with the EC for years and years</quote> yes democrats have always said its unfair</quote> https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/electoral-college-favors-republicans-democrats-geographically-concentrated/ That's a strongly right website</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsAnIndependent 11/01/18 3:09:02 PM #20:	https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/08/birthright-citizenship-not-mandated-by-constitution/ Hm it is right --- Biased to truth and justice <cite>AsAnIndependent posted [p:911604315] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/08/birthright-citizenship-not-mandated-by-constitution/ Hm it is right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/01/18 3:10:36 PM #21:	Solid Sonic posted... So they got butthurt and undermined the voting population difference that saw a Democrat elected? Yikes. Red states have been doing this ever since 2011 after the red tsunami in 2010. It started as payback for minorities voting in Barack HUSSEIN Obama. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:911604432] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>So they got butthurt and undermined the voting population difference that saw a Democrat elected? Yikes.</quote> Red states have been doing this ever since 2011 after the red tsunami in 2010. It started as payback for minorities voting in Barack HUSSEIN Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 3:10:46 PM #22:	The election should not be allowed to proceed in North Dakota until this is settled in a court of law. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911604443] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>The election should not be allowed to proceed in North Dakota until this is settled in a court of law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
butthole666 11/01/18 3:32:34 PM #23:	Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:911606098] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/01/18 3:33:42 PM #24:	What would "just put some street signs up and numbers on your house, damn, it's not that hard" fall under as a reply? --- Washable toilet paper. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:911606184] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>What would "just put some street signs up and numbers on your house, damn, it's not that hard" fall under as a reply?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 11/01/18 4:23:12 PM #25:	butthole666 posted... Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore I had the same issue in rural rural rural West Virginia. Took 2 days and a single phone call to get figured out, but why do things through the proper legal channels when crying injustice gets you attention and "support"? This is only discrimination against the lazy and entitled. WHAT A TRAGEDY. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:911609847] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore</quote> I had the same issue in rural rural rural West Virginia. Took 2 days and a single phone call to get figured out, but why do things through the proper legal channels when crying injustice gets you attention and "support"? This is only discrimination against the lazy and entitled. WHAT A TRAGEDY.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 4:29:36 PM #26:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... butthole666 posted... Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore I had the same issue in rural rural rural West Virginia. Took 2 days and a single phone call to get figured out, but why do things through the proper legal channels when crying injustice gets you attention and "support"? This is only discrimination against the lazy and entitled. WHAT A TRAGEDY. So, IYO, Native Americans are "lazy and entitled"? --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911610343] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore</quote> I had the same issue in rural rural rural West Virginia. Took 2 days and a single phone call to get figured out, but why do things through the proper legal channels when crying injustice gets you attention and "support"? This is only discrimination against the lazy and entitled. WHAT A TRAGEDY.</quote> So, IYO, Native Americans are "lazy and entitled"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 11/01/18 4:33:17 PM #27:	Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? --- I hath returned. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:911610642] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 4:40:02 PM #28:	RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911611139] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 11/01/18 4:48:44 PM #29:	RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:911611839] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 11/01/18 5:00:39 PM #30:	Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. --- I hath returned. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:911612750] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 5:10:39 PM #31:	RiderofHogs posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911613461] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QwelzaarKane 11/01/18 5:11:49 PM #32:	RiderofHogs posted... Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. You should maybe try reading the OP. At least the last two paragraphs. --- Ain't no love shown but to those who down til we die <cite>QwelzaarKane posted [p:911613548] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote> Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> You should maybe try reading the OP. At least the last two paragraphs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 11/01/18 5:12:12 PM #33:	Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses. Time to get with the times. --- I hath returned. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:911613587] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses.</quote> Time to get with the times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 11/01/18 5:13:03 PM #34:	Solid Sonic posted... So they got butthurt and undermined the voting population difference that saw a Democrat elected? Yikes. Not the only time Republicans have done this. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:911613654] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>So they got butthurt and undermined the voting population difference that saw a Democrat elected? Yikes.</quote> Not the only time Republicans have done this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 5:14:48 PM #35:	RiderofHogs posted... Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses. Time to get with the times. See, funny thing is is that they don't actually need to because the Government in their area isn't run by corrupt pieces of shit. Also, there is zero point in having street names and house numbers when you don't get mail delivered to your house. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911613793] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses.</quote> Time to get with the times.</quote> See, funny thing is is that they don't actually need to because the Government in their area isn't run by corrupt pieces of shit. Also, there is zero point in having street names and house numbers when you don't get mail delivered to your house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 11/01/18 5:17:34 PM #36:	Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses. Time to get with the times. See, funny thing is is that they don't actually need to because the Government in their area isn't run by corrupt pieces of shit. Also, there is zero point in having street names and house numbers when you don't get mail delivered to your house. You still need to list where you live for official things, and voting should be one of them. --- I hath returned. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:911613995] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses.</quote> Time to get with the times.</quote> See, funny thing is is that they don't actually need to because the Government in their area isn't run by corrupt pieces of shit. Also, there is zero point in having street names and house numbers when you don't get mail delivered to your house.</quote> You still need to list where you live for official things, and voting should be one of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 11/01/18 5:17:38 PM #37:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... butthole666 posted... Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore I had the same issue in rural rural rural West Virginia. Took 2 days and a single phone call to get figured out, but why do things through the proper legal channels when crying injustice gets you attention and "support"? This is only discrimination against the lazy and entitled. WHAT A TRAGEDY. RiderofHogs posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. Not where my parents live in white as snow wv. Their address, until like 5 years ago, was HC box number. Normal mailbox but short of the zip code, no geographic identifier. It took the county government to assign physical addresses by inveneting street names. My parents home still does not show up on google maps or gps. I do not know how it works in ND but bacl home, it took several years and thr county to do it. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:911614002] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>Literally none of the checks and balances that are supposed to be in place are enforced anymore</quote> I had the same issue in rural rural rural West Virginia. Took 2 days and a single phone call to get figured out, but why do things through the proper legal channels when crying injustice gets you attention and "support"? This is only discrimination against the lazy and entitled. WHAT A TRAGEDY.</quote> <cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> Not where my parents live in white as snow wv. Their address, until like 5 years ago, was HC box number. Normal mailbox but short of the zip code, no geographic identifier. It took the county government to assign physical addresses by inveneting street names. My parents home still does not show up on google maps or gps. I do not know how it works in ND but bacl home, it took several years and thr county to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 5:22:07 PM #38:	RiderofHogs posted... Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Blue_Dream87 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes? PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it. I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses. Time to get with the times. See, funny thing is is that they don't actually need to because the Government in their area isn't run by corrupt pieces of shit. Also, there is zero point in having street names and house numbers when you don't get mail delivered to your house. You still need to list where you live for official things, and voting should be one of them. There's places that allow you to vote using things like your electricity or water bill. Guess where those get mailed to? --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911614332] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Is it hard to do the same shit as before and use PO Boxes?</quote> PO boxes can make fraud easier. Just name your roads and number your houses. Everyone else in the first world has no problems doing it.</quote> I know plenty of people who don't live on reserves and their homes have no official addresses.</quote> Time to get with the times.</quote> See, funny thing is is that they don't actually need to because the Government in their area isn't run by corrupt pieces of shit. Also, there is zero point in having street names and house numbers when you don't get mail delivered to your house.</quote> You still need to list where you live for official things, and voting should be one of them.</quote> There's places that allow you to vote using things like your electricity or water bill. Guess where those get mailed to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 11/01/18 5:22:55 PM #39:	Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned. THEY LITERALLY NEED TO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY THIS TOPIC EXISTS DUDE. Its not like these guys live in teepees. Its 2018. Having a fucking mailing address set up isnt going to kill anyone. Its laziness twisted into.....whatever this "outrage" is about. Racism? Classism? Yeah no. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:911614389] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned.</quote> THEY LITERALLY NEED TO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY THIS TOPIC EXISTS DUDE. Its not like these guys live in teepees. Its 2018. Having a fucking mailing address set up isnt going to kill anyone. Its laziness twisted into.....whatever this "outrage" is about. Racism? Classism? Yeah no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/01/18 5:25:44 PM #40:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned. THEY LITERALLY NEED TO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY THIS TOPIC EXISTS DUDE. Its not like these guys live in teepees. Its 2018. Having a fucking mailing address set up isnt going to kill anyone. Its laziness twisted into.....whatever this "outrage" is about. Racism? Classism? Yeah no. Its amazing watching people like you try to blame the people who are being disenfranchised. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:911614613] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned.</quote> THEY LITERALLY NEED TO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY THIS TOPIC EXISTS DUDE. Its not like these guys live in teepees. Its 2018. Having a fucking mailing address set up isnt going to kill anyone. Its laziness twisted into.....whatever this "outrage" is about. Racism? Classism? Yeah no.</quote> Its amazing watching people like you try to blame the people who are being disenfranchised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 5:26:07 PM #41:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Bio1590 posted... RiderofHogs posted... Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations? Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned. THEY LITERALLY NEED TO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY THIS TOPIC EXISTS DUDE. Its not like these guys live in teepees. Its 2018. Having a fucking mailing address set up isnt going to kill anyone. Its laziness twisted into.....whatever this "outrage" is about. Racism? Classism? Yeah no. They don't, because this law is going to get overturned. And they already have mailing addresses, that's not the issue. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911614641] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote>Is it that hard to create street names and addresses for a reservations?</quote> Why would they if they never needed to and won't need to? This is going to get overturned.</quote> THEY LITERALLY NEED TO NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS WHY THIS TOPIC EXISTS DUDE. Its not like these guys live in teepees. Its 2018. Having a fucking mailing address set up isnt going to kill anyone. Its laziness twisted into.....whatever this "outrage" is about. Racism? Classism? Yeah no.</quote> They don't, because this law is going to get overturned. And they already have mailing addresses, that's not the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/01/18 5:29:51 PM #42:	BLAKUboy posted... I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback. Once they lose their grip on gerrymandering they're done for good. They have to do everything possible to maintain that grip. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:911614923] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>I really just don't understand any of this. Like, Republicans realize they're just making it worse for themselves when Democrats inevitably regain control, right? They're not cementing power, only delaying the inevitable and multiplying the blowback.</quote> Once they lose their grip on gerrymandering they're done for good. They have to do everything possible to maintain that grip.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsAnIndependent 11/01/18 5:52:09 PM #43:	this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils --- Biased to truth and justice <cite>AsAnIndependent posted [p:911616548] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/01/18 6:10:55 PM #44:	More like if they made a law saying you could only use #2 pencils on tests now and there was a test coming up in a couple weeks and you had no opportunity to get #2 pencils. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911617962] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>More like if they made a law saying you could only use #2 pencils on tests now and there was a test coming up in a couple weeks and you had no opportunity to get #2 pencils.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KYOJIROKAGENUMA 11/01/18 6:11:25 PM #45:	AsAnIndependent posted... this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils @AsAnIndependent How is having to use a number 2 pencil anything like this situation? --- Kill anyone who gets in the way... Actually nevermind that... JUST KILL EVERYONE! - Kyojiro Kagenuma - WoTS 2 PSN:kingmalak <cite>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted [p:911617989] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils</quote> @AsAnIndependent How is having to use a number 2 pencil anything like this situation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/01/18 6:32:04 PM #46:	AsAnIndependent posted... this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils You mean its a pointless standard that should have no bearing on a persons ability to vote? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:911619650] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils</quote> You mean its a pointless standard that should have no bearing on a persons ability to vote?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 11/01/18 6:37:49 PM #47:	Perfect example ITT of Republicans defending making it more difficult for their fellow citizens to vote. You guys truly are shameless people --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLH8skGXKw4 WHOOP WHOOP <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:911620101] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote>Perfect example ITT of Republicans defending making it more difficult for their fellow citizens to vote. You guys truly are shameless people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsAnIndependent 11/01/18 7:48:55 PM #48:	KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted... AsAnIndependent posted... this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils @AsAnIndependent How is having to use a number 2 pencil anything like this situation? Its not unreasonable and helps legitimize all votes And its not like this law just sprung up in the last week --- Biased to truth and justice <cite>AsAnIndependent posted [p:911625234] in "Nort... [t:77158433]...</cite> <quote><cite>KYOJIROKAGENUMA posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AsAnIndependent posted...</cite> <quote>this is like complaining if they made a law saying you had to use #number 2 pencils</quote> @AsAnIndependent How is having to use a number 2 pencil anything like this situation?</quote> Its not unreasonable and helps legitimize all votes And its not like this law just sprung up in the last week</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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