Current Events > Study of Elizabeth Warren's DNA supports her claim of Native American ancestor.

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Darkman124 posted...

seems probable that the change was made on request of someone above her seeking PR candy, likely as a result of some personal conversations about her experiences growing up with family members who told her they were native american. globe article gave additional info on the subject about her personal reasons as well. certainly makes sense that someone would be more open about family history right after that family dies. i talked more about my dad at work after he died than before.

I can see that being the cause, if not scholarships. Those are really the only 2 reasons that seem plausible, though. As for the other globe article, I don't think a reasonable person would change their ethnicity at their job based on being a tiny percent that ethnicity even IF a family member had recently passed.
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s0nicfan posted...

I can see that being the cause, if not scholarships.

Well, scholarships specifically have been eliminated as a possibility.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

Warren, who graduated from the University of Houston in 1970 and got her law degree from Rutgers University in 1976, did not seek to take advantage of affirmative action policies during her education, according documents obtained by the Associated Press and The Boston Globe. On the application to Rutgers Law School she was asked, "Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?'' "No," she replied.

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Darkman124 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

I can see that being the cause, if not scholarships.

Well, scholarships specifically have been eliminated as a possibility.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

Warren, who graduated from the University of Houston in 1970 and got her law degree from Rutgers University in 1976, did not seek to take advantage of affirmative action policies during her education, according documents obtained by the Associated Press and The Boston Globe. On the application to Rutgers Law School she was asked, "Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?'' "No," she replied.

@TheKentster
Still waiting for your sources disputing what Darkman said, madfoot
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s0nicfan posted...

I can see that being the cause, if not scholarships. Those are really the only 2 reasons that seem plausible, though. As for the other globe article, I don't think a reasonable person would change their ethnicity at their job based on being a tiny percent that ethnicity even IF a family member had recently passed.

Part of this is that you're somewhat conflating her DNA with her family history. If I rank the groups that I share heritage with by blood, I get a different ordered list than when I list by which heritages my family most references in our traditions, cooking, etc.
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So shes a racist who believes in the one drop rule? Okay.

Edit: lmao the news about this has been updated to say shes actually 1/1024th native american instead of the already-ridiculous 1/512th.
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TheKentster posted...

ledbowman posted...

TheKentster posted...

taking advantage of something meant to be for a minority group

Like what

Scholarships. Getting accepted into Rutgers. It was based on her claim of being Native American. Everyone knows this. This goes back so long ago, way before Trump. I don't know why y'all are acting like that never happened now. You sound like Trump trying to backpedal!

It was listed as her ethnicity. She did not apply for any minority benefits or entitlements. We have a stone cold paper trail of evidence that supports this.

OR we can baselessly assume the word of a guy who wasn't even around about an event he didn't witness almost 50 years ago is fact.

Up to you.
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The right has such a hard dick for this because they think the left will cannibalize itself on this.
Don't play their game.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

TheKentster posted...

ledbowman posted...

TheKentster posted...

taking advantage of something meant to be for a minority group

Like what

Scholarships. Getting accepted into Rutgers. It was based on her claim of being Native American. Everyone knows this. This goes back so long ago, way before Trump. I don't know why y'all are acting like that never happened now. You sound like Trump trying to backpedal!

It was listed as her ethnicity. She did not apply for any minority benefits or entitlements. We have a stone cold paper trail of evidence that supports this.

OR we can baselessly assume the word of a guy who wasn't even around about an event he didn't witness almost 50 years ago is fact.

Up to you.

That's madfoot by the way. You'd get more intelligent political discourse from a squirrel
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Tyranthraxus posted...

It was listed as her ethnicity.

as a note, her ethnicity was listed as white everywhere until several years after she was hired by harvard law
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Unbreakable posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

TheKentster posted...

ledbowman posted...

TheKentster posted...

taking advantage of something meant to be for a minority group

Like what

Scholarships. Getting accepted into Rutgers. It was based on her claim of being Native American. Everyone knows this. This goes back so long ago, way before Trump. I don't know why y'all are acting like that never happened now. You sound like Trump trying to backpedal!

It was listed as her ethnicity. She did not apply for any minority benefits or entitlements. We have a stone cold paper trail of evidence that supports this.

OR we can baselessly assume the word of a guy who wasn't even around about an event he didn't witness almost 50 years ago is fact.

Up to you.

That's madfoot by the way. You'd get more intelligent political discourse from a squirrel

Be careful with that tho. Squirrels are the shadow government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AHCm0urak" data-time="
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Bloodychess posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

- DNC got rid of super-delegates

wait really?

when did that happen?

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/25/641725402/dnc-set-to-reduce-role-of-superdelegates-in-presidential-nominating-process

The Democratic National Committee dramatically reduced the power and influence of "superdelegates" in selecting the party's presidential nominee at its summer meeting in Chicago on Saturday, ahead of what's expected to be a wide-open Democratic field in 2020.

DNC members voted on a proposal to take away the role of elected officials and other party dignitaries in selecting a nominee at the Democratic convention leaving it up to delegates selected in primaries and caucuses only unless the process becomes deadlocked.

Opponents of the move stood down and the measures were adopted in a voice vote. A DNC panel overwhelmingly approved the move earlier this summer.

The reforms adopted also encourage states that hold presidential caucuses, run by state parties, to switch to primaries, administered by state and local election officials. They require states with caucuses to provide for absentee participation, citing barriers to participation ranging from military service to child care to disability.

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Let me just say this: this is dumb and pointless. Everyone outside of his fan base knows Donald Trump is a race-baiting hypocrite, and pointing that out accomplishes nothing and will convince no one of anything.

So, weve established that Elizabeth Warren is 1/1024th Native American? She is so white Richard Spencer is expected to endorse her.
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So she is 1/1024 Native American. That seems like a low percentage to be trying to make your racial identity. Isn't supposed to be 1/4 to be considered Native American or something like that.
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@Lebronwon posted...

trying to make your racial identity.

in what way
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Doom_Art posted...

@Lebronwon posted...

trying to make your racial identity.

in what way

I never really paid attention to this but I am guessing the reason she is releasing this info is someone said she isn't Native American. So this is her proof.
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Hairistotle posted...

i was previously unaware of this debacle and i am curious as to what benefits she took advantage of

@TheKentster
Come on madfoot, you keep regurgitating alt right talking points. Time to share your sources
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MFW I'm a minority now.
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Lebronwon posted...

I never really paid attention to this

Oh okay then lol
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Hairistotle posted...

are we just gonna continue to make fun of her for doing something we asked her to do

Don't forget Trump welching on his promise
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Lebronwon posted...

So she is 1/1024 Native American.

No. She is has as much as 1/32 to 1/1024 according to the test. 1/32 is what she's been claiming all along. Now you know.
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Hairistotle posted...

are we just gonna continue to make fun of her for doing something we asked her to do

Yes.
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ClockworkHare posted...

So is she like 1/36 or something less?

Might as well not even bring it up then.
Because the typical amount to qualify for tribal status in most regions is at least 1/4.
And there's a lot of Native Americans who agree with those rules.

Too many people 1/8 or less running around claiming they got some "Apache/Cherokee/Blackfoot princess/chief ancestor" and don't have any real association to modern tribal affairs at all...

Hate Trump, but also admit that Warren is full of shit. Don't double down on supporting her claims just because you hate Trump. That's a stupid reason to believe her crap.

To be fair Trump is the one who made it a thing and wanted her to take a DNA test to prove it. Of course now hes acting like he never said anything about that but what else is new?
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Unbreakable posted...

Hairistotle posted...

are we just gonna continue to make fun of her for doing something we asked her to do

Don't forget Trump welching on his promise

I agree with this. He should write her a check for 1/1024 of $1 million.
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1/1024 is minuscule.

About 12% of European Americans have at least 1% Native American ancestry, but that doesn't make them a Native American or a minority. Warren have way less than 1% and having such a tiny fraction doesn't make her Native American. I'm sure there are many whites with at least 1% African ancestry, but you don't see them claiming to be black.

She's a joke at this point. This DNA test just proves her to be even a bigger joke than we expected.
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Hairistotle posted...

did she make a big deal out of it

This is what I want to know. Did she bring it up on the campaign trail earlier in her political career, for example?
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For everyone saying she's a joke: how?

She never used any benefits for Native Americans.

She's not the one who has brought this up constantly.

She did this to prove a point against a giant bigot.

And why do you care if it's important to their family that they have a single Native American ancestor? Maybe in their family they find that culturally significant and like to celebrate it because of all the horrible things that have happened to Native Americans in this country. What is it to you? Who cares what percentage she is? She's not try to get benefits for having the ancestor. That's already been proven false and literally no one in this topic had been able to post proof supporting it.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Hairistotle posted...

did she make a big deal out of it

This is what I want to know. Did she bring it up on the campaign trail earlier in her political career, for example?

All signs are pointing to "no". The usual suspects are REEEEing and claiming otherwise yet refusing to post sources.
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Lebronwon posted...

So she is 1/1024 Native American. That seems like a low percentage to be trying to make your racial identity. Isn't supposed to be 1/4 to be considered Native American or something like that.

Does this 1/4 rule also apply to claiming any other Ethnic Heritage Status?
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Hairistotle posted...

did anyone argue that she was significantly native american? or did she just say she had native ancestry? did she make a big deal out of it, or was it other people making the big deal?

I don't know either.

This is really the main issue here.
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Jen0125 posted...

For everyone saying she's a joke: how?

The funniest thing is that the people calling her a joke are Trump cultists, lmao. Talk about hypocrisy, Trump is the biggest joke running.
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Because the typical amount to qualify for tribal status in most regions is at least 1/4.

She's never claimed 1/4 (great great grandmother or so has been her claim throughout) and is not seeking tribal status. She's always based this on the heritage, traditions, and history of her family.
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Hairistotle posted...

are we just gonna continue to make fun of her for doing something we asked her to do

Meanwhile, still no Trump tax returns
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Hairistotle posted...

did anyone argue that she was significantly native american? or did she just say she had native ancestry? did she make a big deal out of it, or was it other people making the big deal?

I don't know either.

This is really the main issue here.

Did anyone make a big deal of it? Yes, her republican opponent for the US Senate, Scott Brown. He lied, and claimed she used it to get hired by Harvard.

His talking point was co-opted by other liars, several of whom are in this thread attempting unsuccessfully to perpetuate that lie.
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Hairistotle posted...

did anyone argue that she was significantly native american? or did she just say she had native ancestry? did she make a big deal out of it, or was it other people making the big deal?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/01/facts-behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/
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Unbreakable posted...

Hairistotle posted...

i was previously unaware of this debacle and i am curious as to what benefits she took advantage of

@TheKentster
Come on madfoot, you keep regurgitating alt right talking points. Time to share your sources

What is madfoot supposed to mean?

hockeybub89 posted...

Hairistotle posted...

are we just gonna continue to make fun of her for doing something we asked her to do

Meanwhile, still no Trump tax returns

Because he knows that his tax returns would show much stronger ties to Russia than he's been claiming.

Once Dems take the House, the HIC will probably get them though.
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Its amazing how deliberately stupid people are being about this subject.

Being part American Indian was part of the history of how her family came to exist. Its not a detail about her day to day life. Its the equivalent of my great grandfather coming to America to escape the Irish potato famine. No one questions me when I identify as Irish American.

She received no benefits from this and its only a story because Harvard Law listed her as a Native American in order to make themselves look more diverse. Thats it.
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Unbreakable posted...

Jen0125 posted...

For everyone saying she's a joke: how?

The funniest thing is that the people calling her a joke are Trump cultists, lmao. Talk about hypocrisy, Trump is the biggest joke running.

It's not even surprising. They'll parrot anything back that is told to them by an illiterate piece of shit that leaves self tanner stains everywhere he touches.
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My woke friends have been attacking the DNA test since its easy pickings to make fun of white people.

Shes not claiming a tribe, respects the tribes choice of inclusion/exclusion and is explaining her ancestry as told by her family.

I appreciated the video, but my woke friends and Trump supporters wont care because nuance isnt something they work in

She is a joke because she claims to be be against Big Business, support universal health care, etc. but then does nothing.

Didn't she announce a bill called the "Business Bill of Rights" or something like that? I don't think anyone's heard of it since it was announced.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

She is a joke because she claims to be be against Big Business, support universal health care, etc. but then does nothing.

Didn't she announce a bill called the "Business Bill of Rights" or something like that? I don't think anyone's heard of it since it was announced.

Did you expect a Republican Congress to pass her bill?
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ledbowman posted...

Lebronwon posted...

So she is 1/1024 Native American.

No. She is has as much as 1/32 to 1/1024 according to the test. 1/32 is what she's been claiming all along. Now you know.

With 8 generations ago (1/256) being stated by the DNA tester as the most probable spot on the family tree. Missed that part, didn't you?
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Hairistotle posted...

why do we think he's madfoot?

Pretty consistent with what angry leg-hand does on his new alts
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