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Comfy_Pillow
10/07/18 3:44:43 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6dv6G1FWxk" data-time="


inb4 peeps don't watch and brush it off because crowder
inb4 TC can't inb4
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s0nicfan
10/07/18 3:45:27 PM
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induring TC can't inb4
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NightMarishPie
10/07/18 3:46:02 PM
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Inafter tcs inb4

Lol crowder
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FLUFFYGERM
10/07/18 3:46:03 PM
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inafter induring TC can't inb4
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s0nicfan
10/07/18 3:46:44 PM
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Comfy_Pillow posted...
inb4 TC can't inb4

s0nicfan posted...
induring TC can't inb4

NightMarishPie posted...
Inafter tcs inb4


Excellent work, gentlemen. See you next week.
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slimfizzle2
10/07/18 3:52:06 PM
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Tcduring b4 cant sunk battleship
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MuayThai85
10/07/18 3:57:11 PM
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I lol'd once she realised he knew who Kavanaugh was and got all hysterical and started bawling.
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Doom_Art
10/07/18 4:01:18 PM
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Dunno what the appeal of this guy is

It's not like he's in this for intelligent discussion
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ZMythos
10/07/18 4:01:23 PM
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I havent watched it since crowder isn't worth the click, but what is the definition of rape culture he's using here?

Because if it's just a matter of semantics then you can argue a lot of things don't exist >_>
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Hayame Zero
10/07/18 4:02:54 PM
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He needs to stop doing this with emotion-filled 18-year-old passersby who can't debate.
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Delirious_Beard
10/07/18 4:04:17 PM
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literally steven crowder
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:05:22 PM
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Hayame Zero posted...
He needs to stop doing this with emotion-filled 18-year-old passersby who can't debate.


he mentions this in the video. He says the left doesn't want to debate, which is true for the most part. He even tries to get one of the people talking to send him an e-mail of a professor that would be willing to debate and the dude tries to back out.

That first girl is pretty much what most people do. They just talk about anecdotal evidence and ignore hard data. She didn't even understand how statistics work. He said it's about 1 in 1900 that get raped. And her response was "well I can guarantee you there is more than 1 in 1900 people there that have been raped" like it's a counter to that statistical fact.
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billcom6
10/07/18 4:06:26 PM
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I can't believe nobody can get this close minded moron to change his mind!!!
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Doom_Art
10/07/18 4:07:11 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
He says the left doesn't want to debate

Implying he wants to debate?

He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.
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Tmaster148
10/07/18 4:07:56 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
he mentions this in the video. He says the left doesn't want to debate, which is true for the most part. He even tries to get one of the people talking to send him an e-mail of a professor that would be willing to debate and the dude tries to back out.


It's more like he doesn't want an actual debate in the first place and people aren't interested wasting their time with him.
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:08:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
He says the left doesn't want to debate

Implying he wants to debate?

He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.


I'm glad you can read his mind. Use that power for good.

Tmaster148 posted...

It's more like he doesn't want an actual debate in the first place and people aren't interested wasting their time with him.


BS. His videos get millions of views. Would be a great chance for progressives to actually articulate that their views in a way that doesn't make them seem hysterical or based on raw emotion versus statistics.
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Doom_Art
10/07/18 4:09:46 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
I'm glad you can read his mind.

I don't need to read his mind when I can just look at how he acts and behaves lol

Dude clearly isn't interested in arguing in good faith, and isn't interested in having his mind changed
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SuperMedz3
10/07/18 4:10:29 PM
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Delirious_Beard
10/07/18 4:10:32 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
Doom_Art posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
He says the left doesn't want to debate

Implying he wants to debate?

He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.


I'm glad you can read his mind. Use that power for good.


you must not be familiar with this dude

that's his entire schtick
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ZMythos
10/07/18 4:10:36 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
His definition seems to be "society promotes or condones rape"

And see, that's a big distinction to make here.

To other people, rape culture means that there is discourse around rape that treats it as a less serious thing than it is, or that excuses sexual harassment/assault in many cases.

I mean, it's commonplace to hear variants of "I'm going to rape you" on gaming and social media, and you hear a lot excuses and victim blaming for sexual harassment.

Even for the Kavanaugh stuff, there was a lot of this. This isn't even about the lack of evidence. I've seen dozens of posts on social media (and here on CE...) where people claimed that Kavanaugh couldn't have raped Ford because Ford was unattractive. That's a pretty terrible thing to say, and could easily fit into many peoples' lens of what Rape Culture is.
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:10:50 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Dude clearly isn't interested in arguing in good faith, and isn't interested in having his mind changed


you are very similar to the first girl in the video
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Tmaster148
10/07/18 4:12:05 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
BS. His videos get millions of views. Would be a great chance for progressives to actually articulate that their views in a way that doesn't make them seem hysterical or based on raw emotion versus statistics.


So what? It's still a waste of time to argue with a guy who has no interest in anything you have to say in the first place.
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averagejoel
10/07/18 4:12:14 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
Doom_Art posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
He says the left doesn't want to debate

Implying he wants to debate?

He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.


I'm glad you can read his mind. Use that power for good.

Tmaster148 posted...

It's more like he doesn't want an actual debate in the first place and people aren't interested wasting their time with him.


BS. His videos get millions of views. Would be a great chance for progressives to actually articulate that their views in a way that doesn't make them seem hysterical or based on raw emotion versus statistics.

you don't need to be able to read minds to know that his is already made up
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Comfy_Pillow
10/07/18 4:13:04 PM
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ZMythos posted...

To other people, rape culture means that there is discourse around rape that treats it as a less serious thing than it is, or that excuses sexual harassment/assault in many cases.

I mean, it's commonplace to hear variants of "I'm going to rape you" on gaming and social media, and you hear a lot excuses and victim blaming for sexual harassment.


you also hear like "I'm going to kill you/your family" on gaming and social media but you wouldn't say we're a society that treats murder as less serious than it is.
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ZMythos
10/07/18 4:14:15 PM
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Comfy_Pillow posted...

you also hear like "I'm going to kill you/your family" on gaming and social media but you wouldn't say we're a society that treats murder as less serious than it is.

Well considering how many mass shootings happen in the US and the lack of any action taken to stop it I'd actually argue that we don't take murder serious enough, either.
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:14:35 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
BS. His videos get millions of views. Would be a great chance for progressives to actually articulate that their views in a way that doesn't make them seem hysterical or based on raw emotion versus statistics.


So what? It's still a waste of time to argue with a guy who has no interest in anything you have to say in the first place.


So why should anybody debate progressives who say rape culture is real since it's clearly not based on facts and statistics?
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billcom6
10/07/18 4:15:29 PM
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The fact that people still ask "What was she wearing?" when a woman gets raped is all the proof needed to show that some form of "rape culture" exists.
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averagejoel
10/07/18 4:16:52 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
BS. His videos get millions of views. Would be a great chance for progressives to actually articulate that their views in a way that doesn't make them seem hysterical or based on raw emotion versus statistics.


So what? It's still a waste of time to argue with a guy who has no interest in anything you have to say in the first place.


So why should anybody debate progressives who say rape culture is real since it's clearly not based on facts and statistics?

why are reactionaries so obsessed with debate as though it makes them like the pinnacle of intellectual endeavor
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King_Hellebuyck
10/07/18 4:17:53 PM
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Where does his 1 in 1900 stat come from? Thats significantly lower than any number Ive heard that accounts for unreported rapes.
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billcom6
10/07/18 4:18:50 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Where does his 1 in 1900 stat come from? Thats significantly lower than any number Ive heard that accounts for unreported rapes.

Not to mention that literally everybody agrees that rape is an under reported crime.
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:19:44 PM
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billcom6 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Where does his 1 in 1900 stat come from? Thats significantly lower than any number Ive heard that accounts for unreported rapes.

Not to mention that literally everybody agrees that rape is an under reported crime.


lots of crimes are under reported

still convicted at similar rates
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King_Hellebuyck
10/07/18 4:22:04 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
billcom6 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Where does his 1 in 1900 stat come from? Thats significantly lower than any number Ive heard that accounts for unreported rapes.

Not to mention that literally everybody agrees that rape is an under reported crime.


lots of crimes are under reported

still convicted at similar rates

You didnt answer my question
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NeverOffended
10/07/18 4:26:26 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Dude clearly isn't interested in arguing in good faith, and isn't interested in having his mind changed


I've seen you say on here that you're interested in genuine debate/conversation a few times so I'm genuinely curious. Why do you think this? Because he makes youtube videos interviewing dumb college kids? He's agreed with a small number of people he's talked to and had parts of his views changed (don't have links to that but I've seen like 2-3 of his videos).


He's just deflecting
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Anteaterking
10/07/18 4:27:04 PM
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Comfy_Pillow posted...
you also hear like "I'm going to kill you/your family" on gaming and social media but you wouldn't say we're a society that treats murder as less serious than it is.


We tend not to attack the possible victims of a murder though.
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Antifar
10/07/18 4:27:34 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Why do you think this? Because he makes youtube videos interviewing dumb college kids?

Because on more than one occasion Crowder has worn a dress to mock trans people. To give just one reason.
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SuperMedz3
10/07/18 4:27:39 PM
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Has one of five CEmen raped?
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King_Hellebuyck
10/07/18 4:28:10 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Comfy_Pillow posted...
you also hear like "I'm going to kill you/your family" on gaming and social media but you wouldn't say we're a society that treats murder as less serious than it is.


We tend not to attack the possible victims of a murder though.

Thats not always true
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Trickfinger
10/07/18 4:29:36 PM
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I keep seeing this video and I facepalm every time

shut the fuck up crowder.
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Anteaterking
10/07/18 4:31:20 PM
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King_Hellebuyck
10/07/18 4:32:23 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats not always true


That's why I said tend.

Your wording makes it seem like its not a common occurrence when it happens essentially every time a black person is killed.

Edit: but that is a separate problem from what youre talking about and I do understand your point
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:33:35 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Anteaterking posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats not always true


That's why I said tend.

Your wording makes it seem like its not a common occurrence when it happens essentially every time a black person is killed.


because his argument is about as solid as jello pudding
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UnfairRepresent
10/07/18 4:34:06 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
_Squirtle_ posted...
He says the left doesn't want to debate

Implying he wants to debate?

He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.

This feels like deflection to me considering your go to reaction towards people who disagree with you is to ignore whatver they say and insult them.

SuperMedz3 posted...
Has one of five CEmen raped?


Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if a few have.

I've seen one or two users back in the day (not on CE) say have they have and there have been several users who have defended rape and sexual assault..

It was only alike a day or two ago that some guy was claiming all men fantasize about raping women and they just lie about it. Then called everyone a liar when they said it was just him.

There are some weird people here.
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TomNook20
10/07/18 4:35:33 PM
#45:


Doom_Art posted...
He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.

The first part is right, the second is bs you just made up.

He's there to debate and promote ideas he believes in.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/07/18 4:36:00 PM
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_Squirtle_ posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Anteaterking posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats not always true


That's why I said tend.

Your wording makes it seem like its not a common occurrence when it happens essentially every time a black person is killed.


because his argument is about as solid as jello pudding

Why did you avoid my question earlier?
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Comfy_Pillow
10/07/18 4:36:20 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
He's not in this with an open mind or willingness to be swayed. He just wants to annoy/piss people off.

The first part is right, the second is bs you just made up.

He's there to debate and promote ideas he believes in.


"he just wants to annoy people by saying true things to them"
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StanZarnack
10/07/18 4:36:43 PM
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hes just peddling his usual far-right drivel where the white man is always the victim (so real victims dont exist), nothing new.
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Questionmarktarius
10/07/18 4:36:58 PM
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_Squirtle_
10/07/18 4:37:56 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Why did you avoid my question earlier?


I didn't because I wasn't responding to you. If you know how quote chains work, you always respond to the last person in the chain, unless you specifically say you're responding to multiple parts.
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