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FrisbeeDude
10/04/18 6:39:41 PM
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https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/04/san-francisco-police-black-residents-aclu-lawsuit?__twitter_impression=true

San Francisco police exclusively targeted black residents during undercover drug arrests as part of a pattern of racial profiling, according to a new lawsuit.

Police in the California city, where only 6% of the population is black, worked with federal authorities to arrest 37 people, all of whom were black, for selling small amounts of drugs, the American Civil Liberties Union of Northern California said in a complaint announced Thursday. During the operations, one undercover officer was caught on camera declining to buy drugs from an Asian woman and waiting to buy from a black woman, who was later prosecuted.

The suit focused on San Francisco police collaborations with the US Drug Enforcement Administration and federal prosecutors in 2013 and 2014, but the ACLU has alleged that the discriminatory policing and harassment of black people in the city has continued.

me again how racial bias has infected the San Francisco police departments ability to administer equal enforcement of the law, Novella Coleman, an ACLU staff attorney, said in an interview.

The allegations are striking given how rapidly the African American population has declined in San Francisco, a city that has a serious housing crisis amid a booming tech economy. The city and state also have also developed a huge marijuana industry while reports over the years have repeatedly shown that black residents in San Francisco are disproportionately targeted for marijuana and other drug arrests.

In one video included in the complaint, an officer involved in the undercover operations was caught saying fucking BMs, an apparent reference to the police code for black males, while surveillance footage zoomed in on a group of black people. An undercover officer also approached a black woman to buy drugs and told the woman that he had purposefully avoided buying from an Asian chick, the suit said.

In the Tenderloin, the neighborhood where the arrests occurred, surveys have suggested that only half of the people who sell drugs are black, the ACLU said.

A federal public defender representing some of the accused people later argued in court that the police department had singled out black people, leading a district judge to conclude there was substantial evidence suggestive of racially selective enforcement.


Run the black people outta your city, then get your police to zero in on those who remain anyway they can.
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Dusk_
10/04/18 6:40:47 PM
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Lol the guardian.
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 6:42:58 PM
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It's fucked up that the cops didn't arrest the Asian chick but I don't get how you can sympathize with criminals being arrested solely because they are black.

Harrasing innocent black guys is fucked up but if they arrested 37 drug dealers who really were drug dealers, why is it not okay to arrest them because they are black? They deal drugs.

What are they supposed to do? Let them go until they arrest more Filipino criminals first?
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ManBeast462
10/04/18 6:43:37 PM
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So much for the biggest SJW city on Earth.
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 6:44:27 PM
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isn't the first rule here "others got away with it isn't an excuse"
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joestarrr
10/04/18 6:44:46 PM
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 6:47:35 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

UR being deliberately dense for the sake of being a contrarian? Why I never!

You didn't answer my question and then call me a dense contrarian.

Such hypocrisy
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gunplagirl
10/04/18 6:49:56 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It's fucked up that the cops didn't arrest the Asian chick but I don't get how you can sympathize with criminals being arrested solely because they are black.

Harrasing innocent black guys is fucked up but if they arrested 37 drug dealers who really were drug dealers, why is it not okay to arrest them because they are black? They deal drugs.

What are they supposed to do? Let them go until they arrest more Filipino criminals first?

They knew what she was doing but refused to arrest her on the basis of race

Conversely, they only enforced the law when the criminals are black aka upon the basis of race

A police department that does not enforce the law equally but instead only upon the basis of race isn't actually enforcing the law but rather they're using the law to punish black people
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nemu
10/04/18 6:52:14 PM
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The police should definitely be disciplined, but it's not like they're arresting innocent people. Don't see what recourse the criminals should have against them. Unless there is more to the story I'm not seeing, should be both sides are punished because none did the right thing.
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 6:52:53 PM
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racist or not, criminals aren't the people to fight for

i doubt they're running out black college students
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unpleasant_milk
10/04/18 6:55:42 PM
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Dusk_ posted...
Lol the guardian.

This
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Blue_Inigo
10/04/18 6:58:14 PM
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Rick-C137 posted...
racist or not, criminals aren't the people to fight for

i doubt they're running out black college students

What a stupid ass post

As is UR's
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 6:58:24 PM
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gunplagirl posted...

They knew what she was doing but refused to arrest her on the basis of race

Conversely, they only enforced the law when the criminals are black aka upon the basis of race

A police department that does not enforce the law equally but instead only upon the basis of race isn't actually enforcing the law but rather they're using the law to punish black people

But the people they arrested were breaking the law....

You want them to let them go?

I fully agree that it was sexist to not arrest the chick and they should have done that. But I can't join you in being outraged that the police successfully arrested 37 drug dealers.

Arresting 37 drug dealers is to be commended.
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Blue_Dream87
10/04/18 7:05:55 PM
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Rick-C137 posted...
racist or not, criminals aren't the people to fight for

i doubt they're running out black college students


Acting like college students don't sell drugs

And I like how people miss the point. Arresting 37 people who broke the law? Nothing intrinsically wrong. When they're all black and it's shown they passed up other races? That's just profiling and punishing a single race. Not how cops should operate
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 7:08:11 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Acting like college students don't sell drugs

And I like how people miss the point. Arresting 37 people who broke the law? Nothing intrinsically wrong. When they're all black and it's shown they passed up other races? That's just profiling and punishing a single race. Not how cops should operate


I'm not convinced it was race rather than sex.

But either way the outrage should be that they let the chick go, not that 37 drug dealers got busted

No one should give a fuck that 37 drug dealers got busted. It's wrong that you even care about their race or sex, it shouldn't matter.

The lawsuit is a dumb one
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DarkTransient
10/04/18 7:09:24 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Rick-C137 posted...
racist or not, criminals aren't the people to fight for

i doubt they're running out black college students


Acting like college students don't sell drugs

And I like how people miss the point. Arresting 37 people who broke the law? Nothing intrinsically wrong. When they're all black and it's shown they passed up other races? That's just profiling and punishing a single race. Not how cops should operate


This, pretty much. This is blatant racism, however you look at it. I'm not saying "all cops are racist". I am saying "this specific case was racism". (And half of CE can probably tell you that I'm the last person who'd accuse things of being "racist" over nothing.)

But if they are truly guilty, the fact that their arrest was racially motivated doesn't justify letting them off. It justifies disciplinary action against the officers who refused to arrest those of other races, up to and including (especially for the one who let a dealer off) firing.
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:10:45 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not convinced it was race rather than sex.

um it says an asian woman was passed up and a black woman was bought from

and it was only shown they passed up one asian woman, show me some proof they've never arrested anyone besides a black person for drug dealing
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andel
10/04/18 7:11:34 PM
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no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:12:25 PM
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and racial profiling isn't racism

if a store was robbed by a chinese guy 20 months in a row you're gonna say "hey we should put more resources in this area and less in this area"
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darkprince45
10/04/18 7:15:34 PM
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andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 7:16:37 PM
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Rick-C137 posted...

um it says an asian woman was passed up and a black woman was bought from

Watch the video before you comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7vp2em25Zc" data-time="


The Asian woman asked him. He said he wanted the "good shit" and then the black woman swooped in to sell him shit.

It wan't like he bought drugs from the Asian chick and then didn't arrest her. OR ran away from her to chase down black guys to arrest.

I think the reason they let the Asian chick off was because shes a chick, didn't actually sell anything and only selling weed.

A man would get arrested for that, a chick wont.

Which I agree is wrong. But people feigning outrage that the dealers got arrested are crazy. Be outraged about the criminals who aren't arrested.

andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

I agree in theory but the law is the law.

You can't go "I don't like drug laws so I am going to deal drugs and then whine when I get arrested."

Oppose the law, write to your congressmen, protest. Don't just ignore laws you don't like
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DarkTransient
10/04/18 7:16:41 PM
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andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors


Depends on the drug.
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andel
10/04/18 7:17:37 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic


luckily i dont care about your ass backwards opinion lol
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 7:18:16 PM
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andel posted...
darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic


luckily i dont care about your ass backwards opinion lol

I'd say ignoring the law is a backwards opinions
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andel
10/04/18 7:19:02 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
andel posted...
darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic


luckily i dont care about your ass backwards opinion lol

I'd say ignoring the law is a backwards opinions


you would be wrong
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/18 7:19:12 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Let them go until they arrest more Filipino criminals first?


What is it with you and Filipinos? Every time you UnfairRepresent-argue about anything where race is part of the discussion, you bring up Filipinos specifically in some context or another. Do you dislike them or something?
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 7:20:30 PM
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I don't recall ever mentioning Filipinos before. Other than maybe an interesting news article about one here and there potentially.

But nice deflection. Almost made people not notice that you ducked the question and made no points
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:20:39 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I think the reason they let the Asian chick off was because shes a chick

and the black woman isn't a chick?

quit trying to muddy the issue, it was about race

but i say too bad

don't deal drugs, you have no right to complain
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WaterLink
10/04/18 7:21:28 PM
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This is a city that puts all the blacks on the other side of a giant bridge. Who's surprised.
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 7:21:37 PM
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Rick-C137 posted...

and the black woman isn't a chick?


Why ignore the rest of the post and then ask this question?

quit trying to muddy the issue, it was about race


What's your proof for that?

Not that it matters either way.
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VipaGTS
10/04/18 7:21:58 PM
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ManBeast462 posted...
So much for the biggest SJW city on Earth.

Its almost like your ignorant notions about the city based on infowars and other websites werent true. Shocker.
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darkprince45
10/04/18 7:22:10 PM
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Are you guys crazy? Do you know the effect of black market drugs?

1. Who knows what drugs you are actually buying, what they're made of, how, if they're spiked

2. This is like a chain starting from the cartel. They are illegally importing drugs from other countries, for dummies to buy and sell. the blood shed and innocent killed to export coke and weed

3. Now here, you have different gangs selling drugs and fighting over who gets to sit where to sell to who. Innocent people die every in gang turf wars that are just walking by. I can go on how detrimental illegally selling narcotics is bad but I guess ya'll are crazy

As a fucking cop where weed is legal. It's the best that's happened. Regulated and controlled
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Ving_Rhames
10/04/18 7:22:43 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Police targeting black Americans? Why I never!

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known2FAIL
10/04/18 7:23:29 PM
#37:


Rick-C137 posted...
and racial profiling isn't racism

if a store was robbed by a chinese guy 20 months in a row you're gonna say "hey we should put more resources in this area and less in this area"


This isn't just racial profiling. It's straight up racism. The film proves its racism. Can't be more clear cut than that
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/18 7:23:33 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
you ducked the question and made no points


I never volunteered to answer any questions from you and without volunteering to answer questions from you, I'm under no obligation to do so, Mr. Duterte...
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:24:06 PM
#39:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Why ignore the rest of the post and then ask this question?

cause it was stupid baseless conjecture

UnfairRepresent posted...
What's your proof for that?

because its what literally happened? you're the one inferring things without proof
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darkprince45
10/04/18 7:24:15 PM
#40:


andel posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
andel posted...
darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic


luckily i dont care about your ass backwards opinion lol

I'd say ignoring the law is a backwards opinions


you would be wrong

Go into a bad of area LA for and hug your local drug dealer. Or better yet since you support selling drugs. Go sell some right next to him. Report the results. Ask him how many kids he's got working for and how many addict he helps fuel their demons
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/18 7:25:10 PM
#41:


darkprince45 posted...
As a fucking cop where weed is legal. It's the best that's happened. Regulated and controlled


I'm glad you redeemed yourself at the end of your post.
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:25:18 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
Rick-C137 posted...
and racial profiling isn't racism

if a store was robbed by a chinese guy 20 months in a row you're gonna say "hey we should put more resources in this area and less in this area"


This isn't just racial profiling. It's straight up racism. The film proves its racism. Can't be more clear cut than that

the film proves the black woman was selling harder drugs than weed

more than likely its not about race
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:25:45 PM
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in any event its definitely not about gender
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andel
10/04/18 7:26:52 PM
#44:


darkprince45 posted...
Are you guys crazy? Do you know the effect of black market drugs?

1. Who knows what drugs you are actually buying, what they're made of, how, if they're spiked

2. This is like a chain starting from the cartel. They are illegally importing drugs from other countries, for dummies to buy and sell. the blood shed and innocent killed to export coke and weed

3. Now here, you have different gangs selling drugs and fighting over who gets to sit where to sell to who. Innocent people die every in gang turf wars that are just walking by. I can go on how detrimental illegally selling narcotics is bad but I guess ya'll are crazy

As a fucking cop where weed is legal. It's the best that's happened. Regulated and controlled


yikes
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andel
10/04/18 7:27:43 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
andel posted...
darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic


luckily i dont care about your ass backwards opinion lol

I'd say ignoring the law is a backwards opinions


you would be wrong

Go into a bad of area LA for and hug your local drug dealer. Or better yet since you support selling drugs. Go sell some right next to him. Report the results. Ask him how many kids he's got working for and how many addict he helps fuel their demons


as i stated involving minors should be illegal, but adults buying/selling drugs should absolutely be legal
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ColdOne666
10/04/18 7:29:06 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It's fucked up that the cops didn't arrest the Asian chick but I don't get how you can sympathize with criminals being arrested solely because they are black.

Harrasing innocent black guys is fucked up but if they arrested 37 drug dealers who really were drug dealers, why is it not okay to arrest them because they are black? They deal drugs.

What are they supposed to do? Let them go until they arrest more Filipino criminals first?


This

Lock up the criminal scum.
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UnfairRepresent
10/04/18 7:30:18 PM
#47:


Rick-C137 posted...


cause it was stupid baseless conjecture

Just like the claim that letting the chick go was racism.

That's pure conjecture.

andel posted...


yikes

How is he wrong?
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darkprince45
10/04/18 7:31:31 PM
#48:


andel posted...
darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
andel posted...
darkprince45 posted...
andel posted...
no one should be arrested for selling drugs unless they are selling them to minors

This is the stupidest post from this topic


luckily i dont care about your ass backwards opinion lol

I'd say ignoring the law is a backwards opinions


you would be wrong

Go into a bad of area LA for and hug your local drug dealer. Or better yet since you support selling drugs. Go sell some right next to him. Report the results. Ask him how many kids he's got working for and how many addict he helps fuel their demons


as i stated involving minors should be illegal, but adults buying/selling drugs should absolutely be legal

By supporting the illegal sales of drugs you support gangs and cartels
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Rick-C137
10/04/18 7:31:47 PM
#49:


UnfairRepresent posted...
That's pure conjecture.

conjecture with merit

unlike your sexism claim since he bought from another woman
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/18 7:32:29 PM
#50:


What's the current over/under for how many posts this topic will get before UnfairRepresent says "and he was never seen again" at the bottom of a post?
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