Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 458: WWE going under.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

XIII_rocks posted...

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1048684422990585856?s=19

In other news:
Damn

Have so many fuming takes on WWEs relationship with them that arent for this topic

But they are appropriate here!

Fuck your propaganda broadcast WWE

When I saw your post in the politics topic I kind of expected a full out rant here
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Im a sucker for family drama storylines. I loved Eddie and Rey for Dominick custody

so this Joe and AJ angle has gotten great to me. I love serial stalker joe
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Bryan/Miz was awful. That has to be a botched finish.
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ViviffTheMobile posted...

Bryan/Miz was awful. That has to be a botched finish.

This was the spoiler I saw on instagram, I think its to continue things
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ScareChan posted...

I loved Eddie and Rey for Dominick custody

o_O
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Domminiick running in to save rey and eddie about to beat the shit out of domminick was great

and it was a really good ladder match too

joe and aj just okay. I feel like they are holding back in ring. Which I dont get since apparently AJ and Bryan is next?
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riott squad is still bae

ronda looking good still. Match was okay

cruiserweight match was okay had some nice spots, but would say just okay
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https://twitter.com/madking1981/status/1048803964832157696?s=21

NEVER FORGET
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They referenced Richie on Impact this week and I will admit I laughed pretty hard given the context (which was the silliest "ceasefire" angle in a while, but in a good way almost).
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wwe wishes they could have the drama that ufc just had

please find a way
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Panthera posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

XIII_rocks posted...

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1048684422990585856?s=19

In other news:
Damn

Have so many fuming takes on WWEs relationship with them that arent for this topic

But they are appropriate here!

Fuck your propaganda broadcast WWE

When I saw your post in the politics topic I kind of expected a full out rant here

Its just absurd that they take propaganda money from such an awful government. Ridiculously shitty, even.

Doing a show there is not the issue. Being paid blood money to paint a pretty picture of them is reprehensible.

I know it doesnt mean shit since Im paying for the Network still, but I wont be watching Crown Jewel. I just cant justify it.
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what happened in UFC? I keep seeing people freak out about it
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From what I read, Khabib won via submission, and jumped the cage to attack some of McGregors people. Then 3 of Khabibs guys jumped in and went after McGregor while that was happening.

I dont watch UFC or anything so I have no idea how accurate that is, thats what I read though.
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RaidenGarai posted...

From what I read, Khabib won via submission, and jumped the cage to attack some of McGregors people. Then 3 of Khabibs guys jumped in and went after McGregor while that was happening.

I dont watch UFC or anything so I have no idea how accurate that is, thats what I read though.

Based on the clips I saw, it's 100% accurate. If nothing happens to Khabib, then UFC is an absolute joke
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They'll make them fight in Hell in a Cell to prevent it from happening again.

Then Brock Lesnar shows up.
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So either a bunch of people are getting long suspensions or UFC is about to lose it's legitimacy as a sports league.
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Maniac64 posted...

So either a bunch of people are getting long suspensions or UFC is about to lose it's legitimacy as a sports league.

Not too long, though.

It's bad business for them to not book a rematch here.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I know it doesnt mean shit since Im paying for the Network still, but I wont be watching Crown Jewel. I just cant justify it.

god, this is a load of shit. cancel. you can't justify turning your tv on for 3 hours but you can justify giving this company $10 a month? what the fuck does that even mean

STElNER posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I know it doesnt mean shit since Im paying for the Network still, but I wont be watching Crown Jewel. I just cant justify it.

god, this is a load of shit. cancel. you can't justify turning your tv on for 3 hours but you can justify giving this company $10 a month? what the fuck does that even mean

Seriously. If you've become convinced that WWE is a shitty company (which they most certainly are), get rid of the Network and use other means to watch the shows you want.
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STElNER posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I know it doesnt mean shit since Im paying for the Network still, but I wont be watching Crown Jewel. I just cant justify it.

god, this is a load of shit. cancel. you can't justify turning your tv on for 3 hours but you can justify giving this company $10 a month? what the fuck does that even mean

I dont mean Im not watching out of protest. I mean I morally dont want to watch it.
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NBIceman posted...

STElNER posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I know it doesnt mean shit since Im paying for the Network still, but I wont be watching Crown Jewel. I just cant justify it.

god, this is a load of shit. cancel. you can't justify turning your tv on for 3 hours but you can justify giving this company $10 a month? what the fuck does that even mean

Seriously. If you've become convinced that WWE is a shitty company (which they most certainly are), get rid of the Network and use other means to watch the shows you want.

I cant justify pirating things that are available for purchase either. The Network is more than worth the price.
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you can not want to watch the show because it will be a sickening piece of garbage propaganda which as a fan is not fun to watch at all, or in fact for any number of reasons or for no reason at all. but to announce that you morally can't bear to watch it, but you'll still pay the company anyway, means less than nothing

I cant justify pirating things that are available for purchase either. The Network is more than worth the price.

I normally can't either, but WWE has made themselves a special case with their repeated scumbaggery.
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STElNER posted...

you can not want to watch the show because it will be a sickening piece of garbage propaganda which as a fan is not fun to watch at all, or in fact for any number of reasons or for no reason at all. but to announce that you morally can't bear to watch it, but you'll still pay the company anyway, means less than nothing

I know. I said as much.
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well it actually means that you see the problem but think the entertainment provided by the network is more important

nice

Jakyl25 posted...

I dont mean Im not watching out of protest. I mean I morally dont want to watch it.

Lmao

Inclined to agree with Steiner here
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He morally opposes one business decision but still finds enough content on the network to be worth his money

Its pretty simple and Im not sure whats wrong with that
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HashtagSEP posted...

He morally opposes one business decision but still finds enough content on the network to be worth his money

Its pretty simple and Im not sure whats wrong with that

i get all that. i, also, wouldn't cancel the network over this (i cancelled the network because cash is tight and i don't enjoy the product enough at the minute). but i also wouldn't morally object to watching the show.

I morally objected to watching the Australia show because it featured Undertaker vs Triple H in 2018.
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STElNER posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

He morally opposes one business decision but still finds enough content on the network to be worth his money

Its pretty simple and Im not sure whats wrong with that

i get all that. i, also, wouldn't cancel the network over this (i cancelled the network because cash is tight and i don't enjoy the product enough at the minute). but i also wouldn't morally object to watching the show.

I would. For the same reason someone might morally object to watching Chris Benoit matches on the network.
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Lopen posted...

I morally objected to watching the Australia show because it featured Undertaker vs Triple H in 2018.

you made the right decision

Yeah but seriously cancel the holy fuck out of the network and stop giving wwe your money
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STElNER posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

He morally opposes one business decision but still finds enough content on the network to be worth his money

Its pretty simple and Im not sure whats wrong with that

i get all that. i, also, wouldn't cancel the network over this (i cancelled the network because cash is tight and i don't enjoy the product enough at the minute). but i also wouldn't morally object to watching the show.

I dont really see the distinction between I cant watch the show morally and I dont want to watch the show because of the gross propaganda.
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because i'm not taking a moral stand, i just don't want to watch it because of its entertainment value.

STElNER posted...

because i'm not taking a moral stand, i just don't want to watch it because of its entertainment value.

When you call the propaganda sickening, you are taking a moral stand on the propaganda IMO
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Spoilers: if everybody had to entirely stop using any product by a company that did one thing that they morally object to, Im pretty sure society would collapse

Its kinda dumb to go oh you morally object to X but still use Y how dumb
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Yeah one gives an inflated sense of importance of the significance of what you're doing. Another is just "they're going to spam us with clips and hype for Saudi Arabia that is gonna drag the entertainment value of the show down."

Like the latter, even though I said it as a joke, really isn't too different than me not wanting to watch the Australia show because it features Hunter vs Taker
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Saudi really are the fucking worst, though my favourite news story of the year is MBS and MBZ bidding against each other - and paying 450 million - for a Da Vinci painting with a 70 mil valuation because they each thought the other bidder was from Qatar

So they're not totally without merit
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I can imagine feeling squicky about a particular show but not enough to throw out the rest of the network, you just shouldn't expect to get virtue signaling points for it or whatever.

Benoit was actually a good example I thought- it is really hard for me to enjoy his old matches even though they were really good, and I'm hazarding a guess that Crown Jewel is not going to have "even though it's really good" going for it. Then again I don't even have the Network anymore, for non-moral reasons.
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HashtagSEP posted...

Spoilers: if everybody had to entirely stop using any product by a company that did one thing that they morally object to, Im pretty sure society would collapse

Its kinda dumb to go oh you morally object to X but still use Y how dumb

yes, i agree with you.

okay everyone in here but sep understands me i'll stop

Tom Bombadil posted...

I can imagine feeling squicky about a particular show but not enough to throw out the rest of the network, you just shouldn't expect to get virtue signaling points for it or whatever.

I dont want any and dont deserve any. I was just giving Panthera the rant he asked for
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Lopen posted...

Yeah one gives an inflated sense of importance of the significance of what you're doing. Another is just "they're going to spam us with clips and hype for Saudi Arabia that is gonna drag the entertainment value of the show down."

Like the latter, even though I said it as a joke, really isn't too different than me not wanting to watch the Australia show because it features Hunter vs Taker

I gotta agree with Jakyl here. If you say the propaganda hurts the entertainment value, then okay. But if you say the propaganda is sickening, youre taking a moral view. The word sickening elevates it to being offensive to you
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STElNER posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Spoilers: if everybody had to entirely stop using any product by a company that did one thing that they morally object to, Im pretty sure society would collapse

Its kinda dumb to go oh you morally object to X but still use Y how dumb

yes, i agree with you.

I know, Im not really referring to you directly. Im just posting in general since others started weighing in
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Also like literally every Network subscriber could cancel and Vince would still be like 20 more Saudi shows because each one is worth twice what the Network brings in each month
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this saudi show is gross but vince doesn't give a shit about if we sub or not so i'm gonna stay subbed to watch everything else.
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....now that's an interesting scenario for TEW or whatever: WWE phasing into a nostalgiafest company for Saudis, leaving a power vaccuum in the US. I assume NJPW wins that war but it'd be fun to play out.
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Although what would be the best precise way to cancel out of protest so that they understood why?

Keep it through Evolution and then cancel the next day, right?
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Jakyl I'm actually interested in why this is a turning point

Like WWE has been rife with workplace bullying, has ties to Trump, appropriates the stories of terminally ill children to get their stars over (Connor/Justin Roberts/Bryan), mocks their dead HoFers with stuff like the Warrior award, lies brazenly to its audience virtually every week, willingly drops the quality of its flagship show to get more money (the switch from 2 to 3 hours), fires people on their wedding day out of either malice or wild incompetence, treats its workers as independent contractors, and sacrifices the quality of its show to satisfy petty vendettas all the time

I agree that the Saudi regime is worse than any of those things, but if you're willing to draw such a stark moral line why on earth haven't you drawn it already? This is a profoundly terrible company.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Although what would be the best precise way to cancel out of protest so that they understood why?

Keep it through Evolution and then cancel the next day, right?

this will just get caught in the heat of people threatening to cancel on twitter because they're sick of RR being pushed down their throats and winning the main event