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Alpha218 10/01/18 10:10:22 PM #1:	https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-fight.html NEW HAVEN As an undergraduate student at Yale, Brett M. Kavanaugh was involved in an altercation at a local bar during which he was accused of throwing ice on another patron, according to a police report. The incident, which occurred in September 1985 during Mr. Kavanaughs junior year, resulted in Mr. Kavanaugh and four other men being questioned by the New Haven Police Department. Mr. Kavanaugh was not arrested, but the police report stated that a 21-year-old man accused Mr. Kavanaugh of throwing ice on him for some unknown reason. A witness to the fight said that Chris Dudley, a Yale basketball player who is friends with Mr. Kavanaugh, then threw a glass that hit the 21-year-old man in the ear, according to the police report, which was obtained by The New York Times. The report said that the victim, Dom Cozzolino, was bleeding from the right ear and was treated at a hospital. A detective was notified of the incident at 1:20 a.m. Mr. Dudley denied the accusation, according to the report. For his part, speaking to the officers, Mr. Kavanaugh did not want to say if he threw the ice or not, the police report said. The report referred to the altercation, which occurred at a bar called Demerys, as an assault. It did not say whether anyone was arrested, and there is no indication that charges were filed. The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Monday. Mr. Dudley did not respond to phone and email messages. Reached by text message, Mr. Cozzolino declined to comment. he outlines of the incident were first referred to in a statement issued on Sunday by Chad Ludington, one of Judge Kavanaughs college classmates and a member of the Yale basketball team. On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the mans face, Mr. Ludington said in the statement. Mr. Ludington, a professor at North Carolina State University, said he came forward because he believed Judge Kavanaugh had mischaracterized the extent of his drinking at Yale. Mr. Ludington said that he had been in touch with the F.B.I. He said that the altercation happened after a UB40 concert on Sept. 25, when he and a group of people went to Demerys and were drinking pints. At one point, they were sitting near a man who, they thought, resembled Ali Campbell, the lead singer of UB40. Were trying to figure out if its him, he said. When the man noticed Mr. Ludington, Mr. Kavanaugh and the others looking at him, he objected and told them to stop it, adding an expletive, Mr. Ludington said. Mr. Kavanaugh cursed, he said, and then threw his beer at the guy. The guy swung at Brett, Mr. Ludington continued. At that point, Mr. Dudley took his beer and smashed it into the head of the guy, who by now had Brett in an embrace. I then tried to pull Chris back, and a bunch of other guys tried to pull the other guy back. I dont know what Brett was doing in the melee, but there was blood, there was glass, there was beer and there was some shouting, and the police showed up. Demerys, which closed in 1994, was a well-known bar that served big slices of pizza and cheap beer, especially after 9 p.m. It drew a crowd that included older Yalies and younger ones with good fake IDs, according to thepolitic.org. Mr. Dudley, who after Yale went on to the N.B.A. and was the Republican nominee for governor of Oregon in 2010, has spoken out in support of Judge Kavanaughs Supreme Court nomination and disputed reports that he drank excessively. Several Yale classmates, including a former roommate and Mr. Ludington, have described Judge Kavanaugh as sometimes aggressive when he was drinking. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: nothing :( <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:909797705] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-fight.html <quote>NEW HAVEN As an undergraduate student at Yale, Brett M. Kavanaugh was involved in an altercation at a local bar during which he was accused of throwing ice on another patron, according to a police report. The incident, which occurred in September 1985 during Mr. Kavanaughs junior year, resulted in Mr. Kavanaugh and four other men being questioned by the New Haven Police Department. Mr. Kavanaugh was not arrested, but the police report stated that a 21-year-old man accused Mr. Kavanaugh of throwing ice on him for some unknown reason. A witness to the fight said that Chris Dudley, a Yale basketball player who is friends with Mr. Kavanaugh, then threw a glass that hit the 21-year-old man in the ear, according to the police report, which was obtained by The New York Times. The report said that the victim, Dom Cozzolino, was bleeding from the right ear and was treated at a hospital. A detective was notified of the incident at 1:20 a.m. Mr. Dudley denied the accusation, according to the report. For his part, speaking to the officers, Mr. Kavanaugh did not want to say if he threw the ice or not, the police report said. The report referred to the altercation, which occurred at a bar called Demerys, as an assault. It did not say whether anyone was arrested, and there is no indication that charges were filed. The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Monday. Mr. Dudley did not respond to phone and email messages. Reached by text message, Mr. Cozzolino declined to comment. he outlines of the incident were first referred to in a statement issued on Sunday by Chad Ludington, one of Judge Kavanaughs college classmates and a member of the Yale basketball team. On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the mans face, Mr. Ludington said in the statement. Mr. Ludington, a professor at North Carolina State University, said he came forward because he believed Judge Kavanaugh had mischaracterized the extent of his drinking at Yale. Mr. Ludington said that he had been in touch with the F.B.I. He said that the altercation happened after a UB40 concert on Sept. 25, when he and a group of people went to Demerys and were drinking pints. At one point, they were sitting near a man who, they thought, resembled Ali Campbell, the lead singer of UB40. Were trying to figure out if its him, he said. When the man noticed Mr. Ludington, Mr. Kavanaugh and the others looking at him, he objected and told them to stop it, adding an expletive, Mr. Ludington said. Mr. Kavanaugh cursed, he said, and then threw his beer at the guy. The guy swung at Brett, Mr. Ludington continued. At that point, Mr. Dudley took his beer and smashed it into the head of the guy, who by now had Brett in an embrace. I then tried to pull Chris back, and a bunch of other guys tried to pull the other guy back. I dont know what Brett was doing in the melee, but there was blood, there was glass, there was beer and there was some shouting, and the police showed up. Demerys, which closed in 1994, was a well-known bar that served big slices of pizza and cheap beer, especially after 9 p.m. It drew a crowd that included older Yalies and younger ones with good fake IDs, according to thepolitic.org. Mr. Dudley, who after Yale went on to the N.B.A. and was the Republican nominee for governor of Oregon in 2010, has spoken out in support of Judge Kavanaughs Supreme Court nomination and disputed reports that he drank excessively. Several Yale classmates, including a former roommate and Mr. Ludington, have described Judge Kavanaugh as sometimes aggressive when he was drinking.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/01/18 10:14:51 PM #2:	Wait, did he have a fake id? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909797925] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Wait, did he have a fake id?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 10/01/18 10:16:27 PM #3:	He likes beer. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:909798021] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>He likes beer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 10/01/18 10:18:07 PM #4:	what was he doing in a bar when he was underage --- wu-tang is the cd that I travel with <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:909798113] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>what was he doing in a bar when he was underage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/01/18 10:18:38 PM #5:	I wonder why, if this is so important, this wasn't reported about by the national media after any of his previous FIVE FBI investigations? I mean, it's public record. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909798150] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>I wonder why, if this is so important, this wasn't reported about by the national media after any of his previous FIVE FBI investigations? I mean, it's public record.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 10/01/18 10:19:02 PM #6:	Fake news. George Soros fabricated the 1985 police report on behalf of the Clintons. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:909798187] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Fake news. George Soros fabricated the 1985 police report on behalf of the Clintons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/01/18 10:19:29 PM #7:	darkjedilink posted... I wonder why, if this is so important, this wasn't reported about by the national media after any of his previous FIVE FBI investigations? How do you think those investigations work? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909798209] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder why, if this is so important, this wasn't reported about by the national media after any of his previous FIVE FBI investigations?</quote> How do you think those investigations work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 10/01/18 10:21:32 PM #8:	This is it ~~Trump's~~ done. 72 hours. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:909798330] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>This is it Trump's done. 72 hours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/01/18 10:21:45 PM #9:	Anteaterking posted... darkjedilink posted... I wonder why, if this is so important, this wasn't reported about by the national media after any of his previous FIVE FBI investigations? How do you think those investigations work? I would assume that an FBI background check involves checking public record for police reports involving the person in question. I would assume that because that's literally the easiest part of an FBI background check. Of which he's had 5 of. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909798338] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder why, if this is so important, this wasn't reported about by the national media after any of his previous FIVE FBI investigations?</quote> How do you think those investigations work?</quote> I would assume that an FBI background check involves checking public record for police reports involving the person in question. I would assume that because that's literally the easiest part of an FBI background check. Of which he's had 5 of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaptorLC 10/01/18 10:21:47 PM #10:	Anteaterking posted... Wait, did he have a fake id? From what I can tell, it probably wouldn't have been necessary. Kavanaugh was 20 in 1985, and while Connecticut raised the drinking age from 20 to 21 that year, they had a grandfather clause for people who were already 20. --- Never trust a snake. <cite>RaptorLC posted [p:909798339] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Wait, did he have a fake id?</quote> From what I can tell, it probably wouldn't have been necessary. Kavanaugh was 20 in 1985, and while Connecticut raised the drinking age from 20 to 21 that year, they had a grandfather clause for people who were already 20.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jukester 10/01/18 10:22:36 PM #11:	Freddie_Mercury posted... what was he doing in a bar when he was underage It wasn't as strict in the 80s as it is today. He could have been let in without needing a fake, or maybe he had one. Either way of course it's not right for someone who's trying to be a SC judge. And yeah, being born in February of 1965, he was only 20, just a few months shy of 21. Also in 1985, the drinking age was raised from 19 to 21, so it's very feasible there were many hold-out bars and states to adopt the new age. But that also means Kavanaugh was legally allowed to drink in 1984, so he was one of the rare few who was legally allowed to drink up until they made the change to 21. --- "i am making Jerky that some day will be sold in every store in America Very few of you are good enough for my jerky" - krosser, Last of the great smu <cite>jukester posted [p:909798384] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Freddie_Mercury posted...</cite> <quote>what was he doing in a bar when he was underage </quote> It wasn't as strict in the 80s as it is today. He could have been let in without needing a fake, or maybe he had one. Either way of course it's not right for someone who's trying to be a SC judge. And yeah, being born in February of 1965, he was only 20, just a few months shy of 21. Also in 1985, the drinking age was raised from 19 to 21, so it's very feasible there were many hold-out bars and states to adopt the new age. But that also means Kavanaugh was legally allowed to drink in 1984, so he was one of the rare few who was legally allowed to drink up until they made the change to 21.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/01/18 10:23:00 PM #12:	darkjedilink posted... I would assume that an FBI background check involves checking public record for police reports involving the person in question. I would assume that because that's literally the easiest part of an FBI background check. Of which he's had 5 of. I'm saying, why do you think the national media would get a hold of this just because the FBI investigated it? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909798402] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I would assume that an FBI background check involves checking public record for police reports involving the person in question. I would assume that because that's literally the easiest part of an FBI background check. Of which he's had 5 of.</quote> I'm saying, why do you think the national media would get a hold of this just because the FBI investigated it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 10/01/18 10:27:31 PM #13:	Anteaterking posted... darkjedilink posted... I would assume that an FBI background check involves checking public record for police reports involving the person in question. I would assume that because that's literally the easiest part of an FBI background check. Of which he's had 5 of. I'm saying, why do you think the national media would get a hold of this just because the FBI investigated it? I'm curious because they've clearly never cared about his past, despite working with the Bush administration in a known manner, and apparently courting some controversy at the time, yet it's only now an issue that he was involved in a bar fight 33 years ago. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909798645] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I would assume that an FBI background check involves checking public record for police reports involving the person in question. I would assume that because that's literally the easiest part of an FBI background check. Of which he's had 5 of.</quote> I'm saying, why do you think the national media would get a hold of this just because the FBI investigated it?</quote> I'm curious because they've clearly never cared about his past, despite working with the Bush administration in a known manner, and apparently courting some controversy at the time, yet it's only now an issue that he was involved in a bar fight 33 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:29:42 PM #14:	It's only an issue because it's clear the investigation with Ford's accusation isn't going to yield enough convincing evidence (unless you don't need convincing, I suppose) So him being a drunk frat boy is the new thing --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909798755] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>It's only an issue because it's clear the investigation with Ford's accusation isn't going to yield enough convincing evidence (unless you don't need convincing, I suppose) So him being a drunk frat boy is the new thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/01/18 10:31:49 PM #15:	This man is OUT OF CONTROL --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:909798851] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>This man is OUT OF CONTROL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:33:49 PM #16:	We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909798942] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 10/01/18 10:33:55 PM #17:	looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. Essentially, "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge." --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:909798952] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 <quote>Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. Essentially, "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge."</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 10/01/18 10:35:55 PM #18:	prince_leo posted... looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge." Please make a new thread I would but I'd rather not have the same people come into my topic and post the same tired "defense" of him again --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: nothing :( <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:909799053] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 <quote>Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge."</quote></quote> Please make a new thread I would but I'd rather not have the same people come into my topic and post the same tired "defense" of him again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:36:38 PM #19:	prince_leo posted... looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge." That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909799084] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 <quote>Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge."</quote></quote> That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/01/18 10:37:54 PM #20:	s0nicfan posted... We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"? Yeah they're really reaching now. A week ago all the liberals here were saying "he's a violent rapist monster" now after Rachel Mitchell released her report stating that the evidence did not support Dr. Ford's testimony, this is the level they've sunk to. It's pathetic. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:909799140] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"?</quote> Yeah they're really reaching now. A week ago all the liberals here were saying "he's a violent rapist monster" now after Rachel Mitchell released her report stating that the evidence did not support Dr. Ford's testimony, this is the level they've sunk to. It's pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/01/18 10:38:02 PM #21:	s0nicfan posted... We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"? Coffeebeanz posted... So him being a drunk frat boy is the new thing Can either of you hold more than one story in your head at a time? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909799145] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"?</quote> <cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>So him being a drunk frat boy is the new thing</quote> Can either of you hold more than one story in your head at a time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 10/01/18 10:38:52 PM #22:	s0nicfan posted... That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it. sorry if that wasn't clear, it's paraphrasing several paragraphs into one sentence --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:909799188] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it. </quote> sorry if that wasn't clear, it's paraphrasing several paragraphs into one sentence</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:39:01 PM #24:	prince_leo posted... looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge." Probably should make it clear that you completely made up that quote. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909799194] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 <quote>Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge."</quote></quote> Probably should make it clear that you completely made up that quote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:39:13 PM #25:	Anteaterking posted... s0nicfan posted... We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"? Coffeebeanz posted... So him being a drunk frat boy is the new thing Can either of you hold more than one story in your head at a time? You seem to think that you can make a mountain out of a molehill if you put enough of them in one place. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909799202] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>We're now at "he once poured a drink with ice on a guy in college"?</quote> <cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>So him being a drunk frat boy is the new thing</quote> Can either of you hold more than one story in your head at a time?</quote> You seem to think that you can make a mountain out of a molehill if you put enough of them in one place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:41:17 PM #26:	s0nicfan posted... prince_leo posted... looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge." That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it. prince_leo posted... s0nicfan posted... That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it. sorry if that wasn't clear, it's paraphrasing several paragraphs into one sentence What a disingenuous fuck. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909799303] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>looks bad imo not as bad as this though: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915566 <quote>Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public which means he lied under testimony. "I know what I did, you know what I did, so here's what I want you to say if what I did becomes public knowledge."</quote></quote> That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it.</quote> <cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>That quote isn't in that article, unless I missed it. </quote> sorry if that wasn't clear, it's paraphrasing several paragraphs into one sentence</quote> What a disingenuous fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 10/01/18 10:41:34 PM #27:	Literally can't see the forest from the trees. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:909799320] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Literally can't see the forest from the trees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:42:05 PM #28:	sorry if that wasn't clear, it's paraphrasing several paragraphs into one sentence If your definition of paraphrasing is literally making shit up --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909799346] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>sorry if that wasn't clear, it's paraphrasing several paragraphs into one sentence If your definition of paraphrasing is literally making shit up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:42:38 PM #29:	Kineth posted... Literally can't see the forest from the trees. There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909799372] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Literally can't see the forest from the trees.</quote> There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 10/01/18 10:43:40 PM #30:	s0nicfan posted... Kineth posted... Literally can't see the forest from the trees. There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell. I didn't post that at anyone so I'll take your participation as the admission of fault that you're never gonna give. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:909799441] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Literally can't see the forest from the trees.</quote> There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell.</quote> I didn't post that at anyone so I'll take your participation as the admission of fault that you're never gonna give.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:45:52 PM #32:	Kineth posted... s0nicfan posted... Kineth posted... Literally can't see the forest from the trees. There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell. I didn't post that at anyone so I'll take your participation as the admission of fault that you're never gonna give. I hope you're not a lawyer. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909799548] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Literally can't see the forest from the trees.</quote> There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell.</quote> I didn't post that at anyone so I'll take your participation as the admission of fault that you're never gonna give.</quote> I hope you're not a lawyer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhyGiveUp 10/01/18 10:46:55 PM #33:	s0nicfan posted... Kineth posted... Literally can't see the forest from the trees. There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell. Kavanaugh is still a perjurer --- Be Wonderful <cite>WhyGiveUp posted [p:909799605] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Literally can't see the forest from the trees.</quote> There's no forest. You've got your face buried in some pine needles and you can swear there must be one because of the smell.</quote> Kavanaugh is still a perjurer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 10/01/18 10:46:58 PM #34:	Coffeebeanz posted... If your definition of paraphrasing is literally making shit up In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News. The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirezs story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story. I mean, you can read between the lines or put your fingers in your ear not to mention that he lied in the hearing Further, the texts show Kavanaugh may need to be questioned about how far back he anticipated that Ramirez would air allegations against him. Berchem says in her memo that Kavanaugh and/or his friends may have initiated an anticipatory narrative as early as July to conceal or discredit Ramirez. Kavanaugh told the Senate Judiciary Committee under oath that the first time he heard of Ramirezs allegation was in the Sept. 23 article in The New Yorker. Kavanaugh was asked by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, when he first heard of Ramirezs allegations. Kavanaugh answered: In the New Yorker story. so even if you want to say I'm completely off base and reading into something that's not, it still looks like perjury --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:909799610] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>If your definition of paraphrasing is literally making shit up </quote> In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News. The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirezs story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story. I mean, you can read between the lines or put your fingers in your ear not to mention that he lied in the hearing Further, the texts show Kavanaugh may need to be questioned about how far back he anticipated that Ramirez would air allegations against him. Berchem says in her memo that Kavanaugh and/or his friends may have initiated an anticipatory narrative as early as July to conceal or discredit Ramirez. Kavanaugh told the Senate Judiciary Committee under oath that the first time he heard of Ramirezs allegation was in the Sept. 23 article in The New Yorker. Kavanaugh was asked by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, when he first heard of Ramirezs allegations. Kavanaugh answered: In the New Yorker story. so even if you want to say I'm completely off base and reading into something that's not, it still looks like perjury</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:48:43 PM #35:	Yeah I'm not seeing the part where he said "we both know I did it" in bold. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909799706] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I'm not seeing the part where he said "we both know I did it" in bold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 10/01/18 10:48:46 PM #36:	Listen man it's not worth arguing with them, they're just going to talk in circles about semantics They are capable of reading the article just like anyone else, they just choose to see what they want to see --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: nothing :( <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:909799709] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Listen man it's not worth arguing with them, they're just going to talk in circles about semantics They are capable of reading the article just like anyone else, they just choose to see what they want to see</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhyGiveUp 10/01/18 10:52:29 PM #38:	So Trumpers want to put in a lying sack of shit, why? To trigger the libs? To salvage Trump's ego? To give Trump a get out of jail free card? --- Be Wonderful <cite>WhyGiveUp posted [p:909799903] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>So Trumpers want to put in a lying sack of shit, why? To trigger the libs? To salvage Trump's ego? To give Trump a get out of jail free card?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/01/18 10:52:29 PM #39:	s0nicfan posted... You seem to think that you can make a mountain out of a molehill if you put enough of them in one place. I think if you take the person who spent the whole hearing building his defense as "I don't have a drinking problem" and then put together a bunch of vignettes of negative situations involving him and alcohol, it lends credence to the idea that he was lying. You're smart enough to recognize that. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:909799904] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to think that you can make a mountain out of a molehill if you put enough of them in one place.</quote> I think if you take the person who spent the whole hearing building his defense as "I don't have a drinking problem" and then put together a bunch of vignettes of negative situations involving him and alcohol, it lends credence to the idea that he was lying. You're smart enough to recognize that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 10/01/18 10:53:18 PM #40:	It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:909799936] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:53:30 PM #41:	WhyGiveUp posted... So Trumpers want to put in a lying sack of shit, why? To trigger the libs? To salvage Trump's ego? To give Trump a get out of jail free card? Do you really think Trump supporters are capable of thinking that hard? --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909799948] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhyGiveUp posted...</cite> <quote>So Trumpers want to put in a lying sack of shit, why? To trigger the libs? To salvage Trump's ego? To give Trump a get out of jail free card?</quote> Do you really think Trump supporters are capable of thinking that hard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:53:53 PM #42:	jborgan posted... It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know. Now this I can get behind. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909799966] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know.</quote> Now this I can get behind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/01/18 10:54:16 PM #43:	Anteaterking posted... s0nicfan posted... You seem to think that you can make a mountain out of a molehill if you put enough of them in one place. I think if you take the person who spent the whole hearing building his defense as "I don't have a drinking problem" and then put together a bunch of vignettes of negative situations involving him and alcohol, it lends credence to the idea that he was lying. You're smart enough to recognize that. I'm also smart enough to realize that finding some stories about how a college kid drank in college doesn't make him an attempted rapist, and that the purpose of this current line of inquiry is to try and claim he lied about how much he drank while being accused of rape to disqualify him on a technicality because they can't prove he raped anyone. You're smart enough to recognize that. This is full "stop him by any means necessary" behavior. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:909799989] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to think that you can make a mountain out of a molehill if you put enough of them in one place.</quote> I think if you take the person who spent the whole hearing building his defense as "I don't have a drinking problem" and then put together a bunch of vignettes of negative situations involving him and alcohol, it lends credence to the idea that he was lying. You're smart enough to recognize that.</quote> I'm also smart enough to realize that finding some stories about how a college kid drank in college doesn't make him an attempted rapist, and that the purpose of this current line of inquiry is to try and claim he lied about how much he drank while being accused of rape to disqualify him on a technicality because they can't prove he raped anyone. You're smart enough to recognize that. This is full "stop him by any means necessary" behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 10/01/18 10:54:46 PM #44:	Coffeebeanz posted... jborgan posted... It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know. Now this I can get behind. So why attack my article? It has nothing to do with Ford??? --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: nothing :( <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:909800018] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know.</quote> Now this I can get behind.</quote> So why attack my article? It has nothing to do with Ford???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 10/01/18 10:55:56 PM #45:	This is getting fucking pathetic. "This scumbag drank in college 33 years ago, how absolutely dare he!" <cite>Vertania posted [p:909800078] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>This is getting fucking pathetic. "This scumbag drank in college 33 years ago, how absolutely dare he!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:56:09 PM #46:	Alpha218 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... jborgan posted... It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know. Now this I can get behind. So why attack my article? It has nothing to do with Ford??? Because being a drunken frat boy really isn't a big deal. Although it does make him dishonest, which is at least something. Although after the Otto Warmbier thing, you'd think the "spoiled white privilege" thing would take a rest for a bit --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909800089] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote>It's almost as if Kavanaugh has a problem with lying and that should be a huge red flag for a possible Supreme Court judge, even if you don't believe Ford. Shocking, I know.</quote> Now this I can get behind.</quote> So why attack my article? It has nothing to do with Ford???</quote> Because being a drunken frat boy really isn't a big deal. Although it does make him dishonest, which is at least something. Although after the Otto Warmbier thing, you'd think the "spoiled white privilege" thing would take a rest for a bit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 10/01/18 10:57:58 PM #47:	Wasn't charged, wasn't arrested, was "questioned." You people really are digging deep, are you. Just get your diapers and tissues ready for when Kavenaugh is confirmed, which he HAS to be, just to make a point against the shit slinging the left has engaged in. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:909800168] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't charged, wasn't arrested, was "questioned." You people really are digging deep, are you. Just get your diapers and tissues ready for when Kavenaugh is confirmed, which he HAS to be, just to make a point against the shit slinging the left has engaged in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 10/01/18 10:58:11 PM #48:	Conflict posted... Coffeebeanz is usually a decent poster but she's been heading downwards as of late she never was. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:909800181] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Coffeebeanz is usually a decent poster but she's been heading downwards as of late</quote> she never was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 10/01/18 10:59:14 PM #49:	Fuparulez posted... Wasn't charged, wasn't arrested, was "questioned." You people really are digging deep, are you. Just get your diapers and tissues ready for when Kavenaugh is confirmed, which he HAS to be, just to make a point against the shit slinging the left has engaged in. Let's be honest here, the GOP getting what it wants isn't any better than the DNC being petty. In fact, it's probably a lot worse. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:909800243] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fuparulez posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't charged, wasn't arrested, was "questioned." You people really are digging deep, are you. Just get your diapers and tissues ready for when Kavenaugh is confirmed, which he HAS to be, just to make a point against the shit slinging the left has engaged in.</quote> Let's be honest here, the GOP getting what it wants isn't any better than the DNC being petty. In fact, it's probably a lot worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 10/01/18 11:00:47 PM #50:	Wtf are you talking about Coffee I don't get you, you're just all over the place with this Nobody mentioned white privilege before you did, and I haven't heard anyone on CE bring it up at all Perjury is a serious crime especially when directed at Congress. You simultaneously think that it's bad and not a big deal if he's a liar You still try to link this to Ford's testimony even though I'm pretty sure the FBI hasn't even interviewed her and this story is completely independent of her --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: nothing :( <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:909800328] in Kavanaugh ... [t:77058863]...</cite> <quote>Wtf are you talking about Coffee I don't get you, you're just all over the place with this Nobody mentioned white privilege before you did, and I haven't heard anyone on CE bring it up at all Perjury is a serious crime especially when directed at Congress. You simultaneously think that it's bad and not a big deal if he's a liar You still try to link this to Ford's testimony even though I'm pretty sure the FBI hasn't even interviewed her and this story is completely independent of her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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