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KamenRiderBlade
10/01/18 1:32:26 PM
#102:


DeadSite posted...
And then took several years to implement multitasking, etc
It took Apple how many years to implement Copy & Paste?
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DeadSite
10/01/18 1:33:21 PM
#103:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
DeadSite posted...
And then took several years to implement multitasking, etc
It took Apple how many years to implement Copy & Paste?

Friendly reminder too they didn't even launch with picture messaging lmao
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 2:27:28 PM
#104:


Coffeebeanz posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Probably because Apple sets the popular trends (no headphone jack, dual camera, notch, etc) that they're worried their phones will either not pick up or drop

Maybe one day they'll realize iOS is just way better than default Android at several key things


Like what


-App background management
-Data backup via iCloud or iTunes (you're at the mercy of Google's servers in comparison)
-Standby time (still remember my Samsung phones draining 20% in an hour for no reason)
-Integrated iCloud/photo library (you use Google Photos on Android or risk losing stuff on the local gallery)
-Native tablet apps (compared to blown up Android phone apps)
-Handoff, Continuity, universal copy/paste and AirDrop being genuinely useful features that benefit those who are part of the Apple ecosystem and even those who only have one device
-Being able to delete stock apps (whereas on most Androids you can only disable them)

But sure, tell me about the ideal Android experience, which involves flashing a custom kernel and installing a stock ROM, overclocking the CPU and installing a third-party launcher, and rooting the phone before you can even do all that. Totally worth it so your icons can look a little different than others and your widgets can be on the home screen instead of a swipe away.

TouchWiz still fucking sucks too

Don't even get me started on privacy lmao

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/07/03/samsung-phones-sending-pictures-to-contacts-without-users-knowing.html

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/circuitbreaker/2018/7/2/17528076/samsung-phones-text-rcs-update-messages

Hope they don't find my dick pics either
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DeadSite
10/01/18 2:30:59 PM
#105:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
-App background management

Wrong

AvantgardeAClue posted...
-Data backup via iCloud or iTunes (you're at the mercy of Google's servers in comparison)

iTunes will literally delete your purchases

AvantgardeAClue posted...
-Standby time (still remember my Samsung phones draining 20% in an hour for no reason)

This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

AvantgardeAClue posted...
-Integrated iCloud/photo library (you use Google Photos on Android or risk losing stuff on the local gallery)

AvantgardeAClue posted...
Don't even get me started on privacy lmao


Yeah that worked out for all those celebrities

AvantgardeAClue posted...
-Being able to delete stock apps (whereas on most Androids you can only disable them)

You can do this on most Androids, actually, you're just so fixated on Samsung for some reason
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green butter
10/01/18 2:33:52 PM
#106:


DeadSite posted...
This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

idk dude. i have a 2 year iphone 7 and even though the battery isnt that great anymore, if i dont touch the phone the battery pretty much doesnt drain. there have been times ive forgotten to plug it in before bed and when i wake up the battery has only dropped like 2%. i know this is anecdotal but i've noticed this across a bunch of my iphones over the years
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DeadSite
10/01/18 2:34:30 PM
#107:


green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

idk dude. i have a 2 year iphone 7 and even though the battery isnt that great anymore, if i dont touch the phone the battery pretty much doesnt drain. there have been times ive forgotten to plug it in before bed and when i wake up the battery has only dropped like 2%

Ok same for my two year old Pixel.
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green butter
10/01/18 2:36:42 PM
#108:


DeadSite posted...
green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

idk dude. i have a 2 year iphone 7 and even though the battery isnt that great anymore, if i dont touch the phone the battery pretty much doesnt drain. there have been times ive forgotten to plug it in before bed and when i wake up the battery has only dropped like 2%

Ok same for my two year old Pixel.

yea but we are talking about iphones here
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DeadSite
10/01/18 2:37:31 PM
#109:


green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

idk dude. i have a 2 year iphone 7 and even though the battery isnt that great anymore, if i dont touch the phone the battery pretty much doesnt drain. there have been times ive forgotten to plug it in before bed and when i wake up the battery has only dropped like 2%

Ok same for my two year old Pixel.

yea but we are talking about iphones here

Ok but the guy was talking about standby time relative to Androids.
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 2:37:38 PM
#110:


iTunes will literally delete your purchases


https://www.macobserver.com/analysis/apple-isnt-deleting-itunes-movies/

https://www.extremetech.com/internet/277238-apple-didnt-delete-movies-from-customers-itunes-account

Who's your primary news source, Linus Tech Tips?
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 2:39:20 PM
#111:


DeadSite posted...
green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

idk dude. i have a 2 year iphone 7 and even though the battery isnt that great anymore, if i dont touch the phone the battery pretty much doesnt drain. there have been times ive forgotten to plug it in before bed and when i wake up the battery has only dropped like 2%

Ok same for my two year old Pixel.

yea but we are talking about iphones here

Ok but the guy was talking about standby time relative to Androids.


https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/04/17/watch-iphone-x-vs-galaxy-s9-plus-battery-life-compared

The first test was relatively simple, measuring how much battery would be consumed overnight on both phones, if they were left alone with no apps running. They were charged to 100 percent, all background apps were closed, and the two smartphones were left in the office until the following morning.

Approximately 16 hours later, the Galaxy S9 Plus said it was at 85 percent capacity, but oddly the iPhone X read it was at 99 percent charge.

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Coffeebeanz
10/01/18 2:44:49 PM
#112:


Glad to see the iPhone is better than Android at not being used.
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DeadSite
10/01/18 2:48:00 PM
#113:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
DeadSite posted...
green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
green butter posted...
DeadSite posted...
This isn't even close to true on the new iPhones and hasn't been true since like the 6

idk dude. i have a 2 year iphone 7 and even though the battery isnt that great anymore, if i dont touch the phone the battery pretty much doesnt drain. there have been times ive forgotten to plug it in before bed and when i wake up the battery has only dropped like 2%

Ok same for my two year old Pixel.

yea but we are talking about iphones here

Ok but the guy was talking about standby time relative to Androids.


https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/04/17/watch-iphone-x-vs-galaxy-s9-plus-battery-life-compared

The first test was relatively simple, measuring how much battery would be consumed overnight on both phones, if they were left alone with no apps running. They were charged to 100 percent, all background apps were closed, and the two smartphones were left in the office until the following morning.

Approximately 16 hours later, the Galaxy S9 Plus said it was at 85 percent capacity, but oddly the iPhone X read it was at 99 percent charge.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

Again, your fixation with Samsung is strange
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archedsoul
10/01/18 3:55:07 PM
#114:


Avantgarde is right. Androids phones pretty much always leak. My pixel is leaking battery right now during standby and it was factory reset on Friday.

pogo_rabid posted...
archedsoul posted...
Every phone has these issue every release.

So does every car, however there's a reason why some recalls are more egregious than others.

Make an attempt to see through your fanboyism. Deflection and salt isn't gonna help apple make a better product, it just helps them get away with things that hurt the consumer.

Lmao at recall levels.

Since you seem to know the exact failure rates, please give us a source.

And I'm not a fanboy. Read the fucking topic I linked. I have Android and annoyed by Google going backwards and ripping features out that were working perfectly fine. A legitimate issue.

Maybe you should take your own fanboy advice.
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Coffeebeanz
10/01/18 5:06:36 PM
#115:


iPhone owners really don't have a lot of room to talk in regards to battery life. My iPhone 6 had without question the worst battery life of any phone I've ever owned.
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LockeMonster
10/01/18 5:17:13 PM
#116:


Coffeebeanz posted...
iPhone owners really don't have a lot of room to talk in regards to battery life. My iPhone 6 had without question the worst battery life of any phone I've ever owned.

Every other phone released then had even worst battery life. I know because I had them. Most Androids were giving 3-4 hours SOT till the S8 and Pixel era of stuff started coming out. iPhone 6 was around 5-6 hours. Androids have dramatically improved battery, but they were shit till very recently.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/01/18 5:20:43 PM
#117:


My iPhone 6 Plus had damn good battery life so long as I didn't use it.
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LockeMonster
10/01/18 5:23:41 PM
#118:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
My iPhone 6 Plus had damn good battery life so long as I didn't use it.

That's why SOT is the accurate way to tell, which you never reveal.

Always some shit like "my phone lasts 2 days".
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KamenRiderBlade
10/01/18 5:25:27 PM
#119:


Honestly, we need to do the Lord of the Rings Trilogy test for Screen On Time.

We can test how long it lasts with screen on by seeing how far it gets through the entire Lord of The Rings Trilogy Extended Edition + Hobbit Trilogy Extended Edition.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/01/18 5:33:55 PM
#120:


Also, IMO, charging speed is just as important as battery life. I can appreciate a device that can last me over day, but that's kind of negated if I need 2-3 hours to bring it back to 100%. Wireless charging is nice, but I don't use it much personally since I hear it's harder on the battery long-term.
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Coffeebeanz
10/01/18 5:41:32 PM
#121:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Also, IMO, charging speed is just as important as battery life. I can appreciate a device that can last me over day, but that's kind of negated if I need 2-3 hours to bring it back to 100%. Wireless charging is nice, but I don't use it much personally since I hear it's harder on the battery long-term.


The only reason I can tolerate my Note 8's kinda mediocre battery life is because it goes from 0 to 100% in less than an hour.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/01/18 5:46:45 PM
#122:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Also, IMO, charging speed is just as important as battery life. I can appreciate a device that can last me over day, but that's kind of negated if I need 2-3 hours to bring it back to 100%. Wireless charging is nice, but I don't use it much personally since I hear it's harder on the battery long-term.


The only reason I can tolerate my Note 8's kinda mediocre battery life is because it goes from 0 to 100% in less than an hour.

I can wake up at 5 AM with a 15% charge and be set at 100% by the time I head out of the house at 6:30 AM. Can't beat that, unless you have a OnePlus device with Dash Charge.
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 5:49:34 PM
#123:


Coffeebeanz posted...
iPhone owners really don't have a lot of room to talk in regards to battery life. My iPhone 6 had without question the worst battery life of any phone I've ever owned.


And the Galaxy S3 was so bad I had to carry two batteries just to get through the day, go figure

Coffeebeanz posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Also, IMO, charging speed is just as important as battery life. I can appreciate a device that can last me over day, but that's kind of negated if I need 2-3 hours to bring it back to 100%. Wireless charging is nice, but I don't use it much personally since I hear it's harder on the battery long-term.


The only reason I can tolerate my Note 8's kinda mediocre battery life is because it goes from 0 to 100% in less than an hour.


Fast charging to match the fast draining amirite

Meanwhile according to my iPhone X I got nearly 10 hours of screen on time in the past day

Y'all love to only post sources when it cranks up the reassurance huh
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halomonkey1_3_5
10/01/18 5:50:39 PM
#124:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I can wake up at 5 AM with a 15% charge and be set at 100% by the time I head out of the house at 6:30 AM. Can't beat that, unless you have a OnePlus device with Dash Charge.

why would you not just charge your phone overnight
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LockeMonster
10/01/18 5:52:33 PM
#125:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Also, IMO, charging speed is just as important as battery life. I can appreciate a device that can last me over day, but that's kind of negated if I need 2-3 hours to bring it back to 100%. Wireless charging is nice, but I don't use it much personally since I hear it's harder on the battery long-term.

That doesn't even make sense. If the phone is lasting over a day, you can charge when you sleep unless you're sleeping less than 2-3 hours. You shouldn't be letting the battery get below 50% as degradation gets worse and worse the lower you take it.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/01/18 5:53:14 PM
#126:


halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I can wake up at 5 AM with a 15% charge and be set at 100% by the time I head out of the house at 6:30 AM. Can't beat that, unless you have a OnePlus device with Dash Charge.

why would you not just charge your phone overnight

The battery is supposed to stop charging after it reaches 100%, but my tinfoil hat self doesn't buy that. I know that 1.5 hours is what I need at most to charge a dead battery and I have more than enough time for that each morning.
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 5:53:19 PM
#127:


halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I can wake up at 5 AM with a 15% charge and be set at 100% by the time I head out of the house at 6:30 AM. Can't beat that, unless you have a OnePlus device with Dash Charge.

why would you not just charge your phone overnight


Because that would make sense

He's the only one I've ignored ITT for a reason

Also fast charging is harsher on the battery than any other form of charging, just saying
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LockeMonster
10/01/18 6:00:35 PM
#128:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Also, IMO, charging speed is just as important as battery life. I can appreciate a device that can last me over day, but that's kind of negated if I need 2-3 hours to bring it back to 100%. Wireless charging is nice, but I don't use it much personally since I hear it's harder on the battery long-term.


The only reason I can tolerate my Note 8's kinda mediocre battery life is because it goes from 0 to 100% in less than an hour.

BTW, this is bullshit. It's not even possible.
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 6:03:13 PM
#129:


https://phandroid.com/2017/09/22/galaxy-note-8-battery-fast-charging-times/

An hour my ass

Where are y'all getting these numbers
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KamenRiderBlade
10/01/18 6:05:21 PM
#130:


LockeMonster posted...
BTW, this is bullshit. It's not even possible.
My older Motorola Moto X Pure Edition has had Turbo Charging built in and it can get to 100% about that fast

https://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/21/moto-x-pure-edition-review/
The Moto X Pure Edition has Turbo Charging, which is Qualcomms Quick Charge 2.0 technology. Motorola is claiming that this is the worlds fastest quick charging phone, probably partly because they are selling it with a Turbo Charger that pushes more juice than other quick charging chargers. In the right scenario, you can technically grab 10 hours worth of power in 15 minutes time. Thats probably more like 2 hours of real usage in 15 minutes, but still, thats a big deal. For a full charge, while I didnt exactly keep track, it certainly seemed like I was grabbing full charges in about an hour.

Ill say it again I wont buy another phone without Quick Charge 2.0 or Turbo Charging or Fast Charging. Its 2015, and it shouldnt take you 3 hours to charge a phone.

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ohnoitschris
10/01/18 6:18:31 PM
#131:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
Dunno why you people care so much about this anyway


Well, fair enough, maybe we should stop discussing thi-

AvantgardeAClue posted...
Highly produced brand new consumer electronics having the few duds that are well within their expected numbers? Brand new software that is experiencing newfound bugs and glitches? Say it ain't so Tim

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcworld.com/article/3297377/android/samsung-galaxy-note-9-android-pie.amp.html

http://amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2018/09/17/samsung-galaxy-note-9-fire-lawsuit

http://piunikaweb.com/2018/09/07/some-galaxy-note-9-users-reporting-speaker-issues-with-their-phone/

Happens to the best of us

Do I really have to explain the point that consumer electronics having duds is not an Apple exclusive thing and therefore assuming so is an even bigger whatabout

Shit, maybe Android is a little out of your league too

Not like you do anything on there besides move icons around on third party launchers and install emulators to play pirated ROMS anyway

TBH I still have haven't forgiven Samsung for getting me pulled aside by the MTA over my Note 7

That was a bigger deal than any of Apple's -gates when you really think about it

Unless you're an Android fanboy or a PC master race type, tell me just exactly why should you care about the resolution if you use the phone for ordinary things like most people do.

We gonna ignore the fact that most people just watch Netflix at 480P or 144P YouTube videos too I guess, there goes that precious resolution to waste

I also think people spend too much time worrying about what the competition is doing, they obviously have more to lose than Apple and therefore will kiss ass to win you over.

Samsung gave you a free Gear Fit 2, year of Netflix or a 200 GB card with a Note 7 purchase back in 2016. Should Apple suddenly include a free Apple Watch or 256GB standard storage or risk being called names by people who don't even use their products? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

I love how the likes of Beanz will only focus on the stuff Apple doesn't currently smack the competition in entirely.

iPads? "Hurr who uses a tablet anyway"
Millions of people, actually.

Apple Watch? "Hurr who uses a smartwatch anyway"
Millions of people, actually. Why do you think everyone besides Samsung gave up on Android Wear lol

OnePlus apparently includes cases with some of their phones. Should all phones come with cases now?

You can fling around the price all you want, but you can get a modern IOS experience in all three areas (phone, tablet, Watch) for under $1000 and that's partially why they control the market so much and why they can afford to take risks in their flagships.

And if someone posts that fucking misinformed Unbox Therapy video again I'm gonna hurl. Some people already narrowed that issue down to a new software feature that locks your phone from being hacked by USB accessories. It has an issue with the timing but lmao if it's some sort of -gate scandal

You may now proceed to ignore everything I just said and go on with your gatekeeping, just trying to enlighten the people willing to listen to reason here

So youre basically just resolved to shitposting when the facts are thrown around

Color me surprised

Probably because Apple sets the popular trends (no headphone jack, dual camera, notch, etc) that they're worried their phones will either not pick up or drop

Maybe one day they'll realize iOS is just way better than default Android at several key things


um

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ohnoitschris
10/01/18 6:20:11 PM
#132:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Glad to see the iPhone is better than Android at not being used.


perfect reply
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 6:21:21 PM
#133:


Just fine thanks

Notice I've turned this topic into a big whataboutism from the Android side once I challenged the shitposting with aspects other than the fucking price tag

ohnoitschris posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Glad to see the iPhone is better than Android at not being used.


perfect reply


It would've been if it wasn't also proving her claims about standby time totally wrong
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DeadSite
10/01/18 6:27:03 PM
#134:


DeadSite posted...

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

Again, your fixation with Samsung is strange
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ohnoitschris
10/01/18 6:49:58 PM
#135:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
Just fine thanks

Notice I've turned this topic into a big whataboutism from the Android side once I challenged the shitposting with aspects other than the fucking price tag


Well... not exactly. You did kinda shoot yourself in the foot when you purposefully misrepresented a point I made, followed by an insult:

ohnoitschris posted...
(...)you can only go as cheaply as a lower-end model without an OLED screen with the pixel density of their eight-year-old iPhone 4. That wouldn't be so bad if it were just $300 or less. But $750. My goodness.


AvantgardeAClue posted...
But lmao@ the guy saying it has iPhone 4 specs. Go to sleep you have school in the morning


Only to have Coffeebeanz nail you on that point, which seemed to set you off into a point-by-point, rageful defense of the iPhone line. Misrepresenting it again with:

AvantgardeAClue posted...
Just fine thanks

Notice I've turned this topic into a big whataboutism from the Android side once I challenged the shitposting with aspects other than the fucking price tag


gives you an even weaker position in the debate, considering anyone can read most of the posts here and see discussion about other aspects of the phones. Just like that post I made that you replied to, mentioning the DPI of the screen.
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ohnoitschris
10/01/18 6:50:23 PM
#136:


When you're in a weak position, it's not the best idea to reply to a neutral post that actually could help your argument:

Coffeebeanz posted...
The only reason I can tolerate my Note 8's kinda mediocre battery life is because it goes from 0 to 100% in less than an hour.


With a trio of taunting, humblebragging, and an arrogant boast:

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Fast charging to match the fast draining amirite

Meanwhile according to my iPhone X I got nearly 10 hours of screen on time in the past day

Y'all love to only post sources when it cranks up the reassurance huh


Oh dear. Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe you should work on your charisma a little bit. Since you're into iPhone so much, why don't you study Steve Jobs' keynotes? Pay attention to how he words his speeches, his speaking patterns, his optimistic tone of voice, even his subtle body language. You can learn quite a lot, and it'll help you if ever you find yourself in a public speaking role.
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Rick-C137
10/01/18 6:52:05 PM
#137:


People care so much about what phone someone else gets

Just admit you're jealous you can't drop 1.5k on a phone.

I can't buy that luxury never-melt ice that cost thousands but you don't see me trying to hate on it
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ohnoitschris
10/01/18 6:53:36 PM
#138:


Here's a personal favorite of mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxWEpp206lg" data-time="


When the iPad was new, it was regarded as "just a big iPod Touch", and considered silly and superfluous. Eight years later, tablets are ubiquitous, and some readers might be reading this very post on one right now. Steve Jobs' clever way of introducing it certainly helped kickstart the marketing for it, as with any of his keynotes. It's only 4 minutes and change, you should check it out.
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LockeMonster
10/01/18 7:16:04 PM
#139:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
LockeMonster posted...
BTW, this is bullshit. It's not even possible.
My older Motorola Moto X Pure Edition has had Turbo Charging built in and it can get to 100% about that fast

https://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/21/moto-x-pure-edition-review/
The Moto X Pure Edition has Turbo Charging, which is Qualcomms Quick Charge 2.0 technology. Motorola is claiming that this is the worlds fastest quick charging phone, probably partly because they are selling it with a Turbo Charger that pushes more juice than other quick charging chargers. In the right scenario, you can technically grab 10 hours worth of power in 15 minutes time. Thats probably more like 2 hours of real usage in 15 minutes, but still, thats a big deal. For a full charge, while I didnt exactly keep track, it certainly seemed like I was grabbing full charges in about an hour.

Ill say it again I wont buy another phone without Quick Charge 2.0 or Turbo Charging or Fast Charging. Its 2015, and it shouldnt take you 3 hours to charge a phone.

I'm talking about the Note 8 specifically which I have. It's more like an hour and 45. Under an hour is just not possible even with the fastest allowed charger. Coffee is straight up lying. SSJ Goku3 was more accurate, but he shit the bed by going paranoid and proving his lack of understanding of technology.

And I also had the Moto X Pure and it's more like an hour and 20. I actually use my Moto Turbo chargers on most of my devices. The reviewer himself states he didn't keep track and feels like maybe it's an hour.
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KamenRiderBlade
10/01/18 7:19:29 PM
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LockeMonster posted...
And I also had the Moto X Pure and it's more like an hour and 20. I actually use my Moto Turbo chargers on most of my devices. The reviewer himself states he didn't keep track and feels like maybe it's an hour.
I love the Quick Charge Feature =D
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/01/18 7:23:30 PM
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Just admit you're jealous you can't drop 1.5k on a phone.

To be clear, no one is actually buying these devices outright. It's essentially a glorified lease that has you locked into monthly payments for the 24 months or so it takes for you to pay it off.
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ohnoitschris
10/01/18 7:28:12 PM
#142:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Just admit you're jealous you can't drop 1.5k on a phone.

To be clear, no one is actually buying these devices outright. It's essentially a glorified lease that has you locked into monthly payments for the 24 months or so it takes for you to pay it off.


True, and not to mention, carriers and stores have deals on phones all the time. I think Apple has some deal where you pay so much a month for the rest of your life and you can always trade in your phone towards a new one. Also, T-Mobile outright runs buy-one-get-one-free deals occasionally, which effectively cuts the price by half if you have someone else who needs a new phone. Lots of people also get free phones from their employers.

You should always check around to see if you can land a better deal on a new phone, because chances are, there will be one. Especially around Christmastime.
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Rick-C137
10/01/18 7:29:45 PM
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it is always cheaper in the long run to buy something outright

so of course they want you to get on a payment plan, that way you end up spending close to 2000 instead of just 1500
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/01/18 7:33:03 PM
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Yeah, deals are also worth looking into as you can sell off the stuff you don't want to help get some money back after the big expense.
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halomonkey1_3_5
10/01/18 7:34:01 PM
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carriers are so desperate to get people to buy through them that they literally offer day 1 discounts even for iphones now

hell I think Sprint even has a crazy plan where you get an iPhone Xs for "free" if you sign up(you pay $0/mo to lease the phone for like a year)
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AvantgardeAClue
10/01/18 8:22:20 PM
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Oh dear. Maaaaaaaaaaaaybe you should work on your charisma a little bit. Since you're into iPhone so much, why don't you study Steve Jobs' keynotes? Pay attention to how he words his speeches, his speaking patterns, his optimistic tone of voice, even his subtle body language. You can learn quite a lot, and it'll help you if ever you find yourself in a public speaking role.


Oh you poor uninformed lurker

My day job in college for four years was a public speaking role.

I coach high school debate. Judge state and national tournaments from time to time too. Guarantee you can't tell me the difference between a Lincoln-Douglas debate, public forum or Congress debate without looking it up.

Did you forget we're on a message board where just about all of that shit means nothing and therefore is not applicable

So you're probably the last person here who should be lecturing me on public speaking or anything related to it, sorry.

I'm tagging you as my apprentice from now on since clearly you have much to learn

Do yourself a favor and read the whole thread, then you'll know why I don't really try arguing with Beanz seriously anymore; last time I explained in-depth to her she just flip flopped back to the price

So now I just assume her brew
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DeadSite
10/02/18 12:51:20 AM
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AvantgardeAClue
10/02/18 1:18:47 AM
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He literally says it didn't affect him personally
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DeadSite
10/02/18 1:59:47 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
He literally says it didn't affect him personally

And yet he acknowledges that these are problematic and is necessary QA/QC to keep Apple in check.

It's like you actually missed the issue
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AvantgardeAClue
10/02/18 2:10:01 AM
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It's like you actually missed the issue

The issue being that a trillion dollar company is expected to have zero QC issues or face the wrath of tech YouTubers, right?
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DeadSite
10/02/18 2:13:04 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
It's like you actually missed the issue

The issue being that a trillion dollar company is expected to have zero QC issues or face the wrath of tech YouTubers, right?

The dripping irony of this statement is great
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