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darkjedilink 09/28/18 1:35:37 PM #51:	rikasa posted... right, you just don't believe women should come forward with their sexual ASSAULT stories. I don't believe someone who changes their story, names people who say the party didn't happen as witnesses, and can't identify the YEAR it happened, should be taken at their word. No prosecutor in America can even get a search warrant based on the facts of this case. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909608236] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>right, you just don't believe women should come forward with their sexual ASSAULT stories.</quote> I don't believe someone who changes their story, names people who say the party didn't happen as witnesses, and can't identify the YEAR it happened, should be taken at their word. No prosecutor in America can even get a search warrant based on the facts of this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 1:37:49 PM #52:	pinky0926 posted... _Goggalor_ posted... pinky0926 posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. What is your opinion of the accusers? Because the exact same people who are shouting about damning an innocent man without evidence also tend to be quite comfortable to call every single one of these women a bunch of lying money-grubbing whores. I don't know if they're lying or telling the truth. No one does because it's just "he said/she said" at this point. Right but as someone else said, the standard for what a court needs to prove is not the same standard required to form a personal opinion about a guy. If you want to convict someone of a crime you need evidence. You don't need evidence to make a cautionary opinion about whether a person is fit for an extremely important job when 3 unrelated people have made a damning statement about his character. Consider how much evidence your employer would need to make sure the reference you got from a previous employer was true or not, and maybe you can appreciate why it doesn't actually matter. In Ford's case, she doesn't know when it happened, every person she named said that the party in question didn't happen (including her best friend at the time), her story has changed numerous times over the past month, AND she gets a polygraph while on vacation (about something she supposedly didn't want to come forward about, and she doesn't remember who paid for it). Are you really suggesting NONE of that raises any red flags to you? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909608365] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> What is your opinion of the accusers? Because the exact same people who are shouting about damning an innocent man without evidence also tend to be quite comfortable to call every single one of these women a bunch of lying money-grubbing whores.</quote> I don't know if they're lying or telling the truth. No one does because it's just "he said/she said" at this point.</quote> Right but as someone else said, the standard for what a court needs to prove is not the same standard required to form a personal opinion about a guy. If you want to convict someone of a crime you need evidence. You don't need evidence to make a cautionary opinion about whether a person is fit for an extremely important job when 3 unrelated people have made a damning statement about his character. Consider how much evidence your employer would need to make sure the reference you got from a previous employer was true or not, and maybe you can appreciate why it doesn't actually matter.</quote> In Ford's case, she doesn't know when it happened, every person she named said that the party in question didn't happen (including her best friend at the time), her story has changed numerous times over the past month, AND she gets a polygraph while on vacation (about something she supposedly didn't want to come forward about, and she doesn't remember who paid for it). Are you really suggesting NONE of that raises any red flags to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 1:41:03 PM #53:	_Goggalor_ posted... LightHawKnight posted... If only they would allow an investigation. Agreed. That is what's needed for both sides. Investigate what? She doesn't know where it happened, she doesn't know when it happened, and every person she says was at the party says they weren't at the party, including her best friend. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909608565] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>If only they would allow an investigation.</quote> Agreed. That is what's needed for both sides.</quote> Investigate what? She doesn't know where it happened, she doesn't know when it happened, and every person she says was at the party says they weren't at the party, including her best friend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 09/28/18 2:00:27 PM #54:	_Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:909609689] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 2:01:08 PM #55:	Sir Will posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS. So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909609726] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS.</quote> So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 09/28/18 2:02:58 PM #56:	darkjedilink posted... I don't believe someone who changes their story, names people who say the party didn't happen as witnesses, and can't identify the YEAR it happened, should be taken at their word. And if you'd say that about Ford, you'd say that about any accusation. You're either listing reasons that are blatantly untrue ("witnesses say it didn't happen") or are irrelevant (not every detail is remembered). --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:909609828] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I don't believe someone who changes their story, names people who say the party didn't happen as witnesses, and can't identify the YEAR it happened, should be taken at their word.</quote> And if you'd say that about Ford, you'd say that about any accusation. You're either listing reasons that are blatantly untrue ("witnesses say it didn't happen") or are irrelevant (not every detail is remembered).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/28/18 2:03:45 PM #57:	darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS. So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel? You don't know these things for certain. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:909609884] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS.</quote> So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel?</quote> You don't know these things for certain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 2:09:04 PM #58:	rikasa posted... darkjedilink posted... I don't believe someone who changes their story, names people who say the party didn't happen as witnesses, and can't identify the YEAR it happened, should be taken at their word. And if you'd say that about Ford, you'd say that about any accusation. You're either listing reasons that are blatantly untrue ("witnesses say it didn't happen") or are irrelevant (not every detail is remembered). Had her best friend said 'yeah, I remember that party, and Kavanaugh was there,' her story would have weight. Except her best friend said she never went to this party. That means Ford's story has one hole. As a matter of fact, every person she claimed was there explicitly said they weren't, so either the party didn't happen, or she got the only details she offered about that night wrong - every one of them. When I was sexually assaulted as a child, I took years to report it, so I'm not going there. I will admit that I don't remember every detail, but I know the year, the month, my age, and the people present in the house actually remember being there. I was 7, and can remember that. She was 'around' 15, but can't? Come the fuck on, bruh. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909610201] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I don't believe someone who changes their story, names people who say the party didn't happen as witnesses, and can't identify the YEAR it happened, should be taken at their word.</quote> And if you'd say that about Ford, you'd say that about any accusation. You're either listing reasons that are blatantly untrue ("witnesses say it didn't happen") or are irrelevant (not every detail is remembered).</quote> Had her best friend said 'yeah, I remember that party, and Kavanaugh was there,' her story would have weight. Except her best friend said she never went to this party. That means Ford's story has one hole. As a matter of fact, every person she claimed was there explicitly said they weren't, so either the party didn't happen, or she got the only details she offered about that night wrong - every one of them. When I was sexually assaulted as a child, I took years to report it, so I'm not going there. I will admit that I don't remember every detail, but I know the year, the month, my age, and the people present in the house actually remember being there. I was 7, and can remember that. She was 'around' 15, but can't? Come the fuck on, bruh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 09/28/18 2:10:06 PM #59:	_Goggalor_ posted... pinky0926 posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. What is your opinion of the accusers? Because the exact same people who are shouting about damning an innocent man without evidence also tend to be quite comfortable to call every single one of these women a bunch of lying money-grubbing whores. I don't know if they're lying or telling the truth. No one does because it's just "he said/she said" at this point. <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:909610272] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> What is your opinion of the accusers? Because the exact same people who are shouting about damning an innocent man without evidence also tend to be quite comfortable to call every single one of these women a bunch of lying money-grubbing whores.</quote> I don't know if they're lying or telling the truth. No one does because it's just "he said/she said" at this point.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 09/28/18 2:11:01 PM #60:	darkjedilink posted... When I was sexually assaulted as a child, I took years to report it, so I'm not going there. I will admit that I don't remember every detail, but I know the year, the month, my age, and the people present in the house actually remember being there. Good lord. This is the most hypocritical thing I've ever read in my life. I can only assume that your trauma is why you're reacting to this so irrationally. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:909610329] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>When I was sexually assaulted as a child, I took years to report it, so I'm not going there. I will admit that I don't remember every detail, but I know the year, the month, my age, and the people present in the house actually remember being there. </quote> Good lord. This is the most hypocritical thing I've ever read in my life. I can only assume that your trauma is why you're reacting to this so irrationally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 09/28/18 2:11:22 PM #61:	Kineth posted... MrPeppers posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... davyheinz posted... _Goggalor_ posted... davyheinz posted... Pretending to be too logical for opinions is one of the weirdest and dumbest gimmicks I have seen yet. Why would you have strong beliefs about things you can't prove? That's fucking idiotic. Why do you not know what an opinion is? Opinions dont have to be based on strong beliefs or be unchanging. It's like the same people who don't think they have biases or that they don't let it shape how they feel, or as if it's wrong for some reason This is probably an unnecessary statement, but we all have our implicit biases. Simply acknowledging your biases does not remove their influence either. While true, it does engender authenticity and trust as the listener will have a better idea of where the differences in opinion might originate from. Agreed. I have nothing else of substance to contribute lol --- https://imgur.com/SGkkbF0 <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:909610350] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrPeppers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>davyheinz posted...</cite> <quote>Pretending to be too logical for opinions is one of the weirdest and dumbest gimmicks I have seen yet.</quote> Why would you have strong beliefs about things you can't prove? That's fucking idiotic.</quote> Why do you not know what an opinion is? Opinions dont have to be based on strong beliefs or be unchanging.</quote> It's like the same people who don't think they have biases or that they don't let it shape how they feel, or as if it's wrong for some reason</quote> This is probably an unnecessary statement, but we all have our implicit biases. Simply acknowledging your biases does not remove their influence either.</quote> While true, it does engender authenticity and trust as the listener will have a better idea of where the differences in opinion might originate from.</quote> Agreed. I have nothing else of substance to contribute lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 2:11:34 PM #62:	Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS. So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel? You don't know these things for certain. Don't know what? That no evidence of her accusation was offered? That nobody corroborates any part of her story, not even her best friend? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909610364] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS.</quote> So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel?</quote> You don't know these things for certain.</quote> Don't know what? That no evidence of her accusation was offered? That nobody corroborates any part of her story, not even her best friend?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 09/28/18 2:24:40 PM #63:	they said they don't remember the party, not that it didn't happen. Ford's friend believes that she is telling the truth --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:909611149] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>they said they don't remember the party, not that it didn't happen. Ford's friend believes that she is telling the truth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 2:30:18 PM #64:	rikasa posted... darkjedilink posted... When I was sexually assaulted as a child, I took years to report it, so I'm not going there. I will admit that I don't remember every detail, but I know the year, the month, my age, and the people present in the house actually remember being there. Good lord. This is the most hypocritical thing I've ever read in my life. I can only assume that your trauma is why you're reacting to this so irrationally. What's irrational about not taking someone who's story has changes, and all witnesses say the party didn't happen, as gospel? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909611479] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>When I was sexually assaulted as a child, I took years to report it, so I'm not going there. I will admit that I don't remember every detail, but I know the year, the month, my age, and the people present in the house actually remember being there. </quote> Good lord. This is the most hypocritical thing I've ever read in my life. I can only assume that your trauma is why you're reacting to this so irrationally.</quote> What's irrational about not taking someone who's story has changes, and all witnesses say the party didn't happen, as gospel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 09/28/18 2:35:40 PM #65:	darkjedilink posted... Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS. So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel? You don't know these things for certain. Don't know what? That no evidence of her accusation was offered? That nobody corroborates any part of her story, not even her best friend? I think I misread one of your posts in this topic and was assuming that you were doing what others users have been doing on making speculative statements on the veracity of what's going on. I looked back and realized you're simply pointing out problematic elements of the accusation. So my bad on the false assertion/accusation. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:909611804] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS.</quote> So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel?</quote> You don't know these things for certain.</quote> Don't know what? That no evidence of her accusation was offered? That nobody corroborates any part of her story, not even her best friend?</quote> I think I misread one of your posts in this topic and was assuming that you were doing what others users have been doing on making speculative statements on the veracity of what's going on. I looked back and realized you're simply pointing out problematic elements of the accusation. So my bad on the false assertion/accusation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 2:37:28 PM #66:	Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... Kineth posted... darkjedilink posted... Sir Will posted... _Goggalor_ posted... This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh. This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS. So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel? You don't know these things for certain. Don't know what? That no evidence of her accusation was offered? That nobody corroborates any part of her story, not even her best friend? I think I misread one of your posts in this topic and was assuming that you were doing what others users have been doing on making speculative statements on the veracity of what's going on. I looked back and realized you're simply pointing out problematic elements of the accusation. So my bad on the false assertion/accusation. That's all I've been doing. Thanks. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909611917] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>This whole Kavanaugh thing really makes me think a lot of people believe in the former, which is pretty messed up tbh.</quote> This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful position in the country FFS.</quote> So an unproven accusation should be taken as gospel?</quote> You don't know these things for certain.</quote> Don't know what? That no evidence of her accusation was offered? That nobody corroborates any part of her story, not even her best friend?</quote> I think I misread one of your posts in this topic and was assuming that you were doing what others users have been doing on making speculative statements on the veracity of what's going on. I looked back and realized you're simply pointing out problematic elements of the accusation. So my bad on the false assertion/accusation.</quote> That's all I've been doing. Thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 09/28/18 3:48:21 PM #67:	darkjedilink posted... _Goggalor_ posted... LightHawKnight posted... If only they would allow an investigation. Agreed. That is what's needed for both sides. Investigate what? She doesn't know where it happened, she doesn't know when it happened, and every person she says was at the party says they weren't at the party, including her best friend. Have a show investigation. Do something other than nothing. Wouldn't hurt to find more witnesses and get something. It literally can't hurt Kavanaugh, cause it is that old and hard to prove anything. If he didn't do it, then he should be fine with it. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:909615772] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>If only they would allow an investigation.</quote> Agreed. That is what's needed for both sides.</quote> Investigate what? She doesn't know where it happened, she doesn't know when it happened, and every person she says was at the party says they weren't at the party, including her best friend.</quote> Have a show investigation. Do something other than nothing. Wouldn't hurt to find more witnesses and get something. It literally can't hurt Kavanaugh, cause it is that old and hard to prove anything. If he didn't do it, then he should be fine with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 09/28/18 3:56:33 PM #68:	bevan306 posted... they said they don't remember the party, not that it didn't happen. Ford's friend believes that she is telling the truth Ford said they were there. Her supposed corroborating witnesses say they weren't there. That's a contradiction. They contradict Ford's testimony. It calls Ford's allegation and testimony into question. Prosecutor Reportedly Said She Wouldnt Charge Kavanaugh http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/28/rachel-mitchell-not-prosecute-kavanaugh-blasey-ford/ The sex crimes prosecutor tasked with questioning Christine Blasey Ford during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Judge Brett Kavanaugh told Republican senators on Thursday that Fords claims and the lack of corroborative evidence were not strong enough to take the case to a courtroom. Arizona prosecutor Rachel Mitchell spoke at a late-night Thursday meeting with the Republican caucus, where she briefed all 51 GOP members, according to The Washington Post. Based on the evidence presented during the hearing, Mitchell reportedly said that she would not have prosecuted Kavanaugh. (RELATED: Kavanaugh Breaks Down While Talking About His Dad) Mitchell spelled it out and was clear with senators that she could not take this anywhere near a courtroom, a source told Fox News. In fact, Mitchell reportedly said she would not even pursue a search warrant. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:909616212] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>bevan306 posted...</cite> <quote>they said they don't remember the party, not that it didn't happen. Ford's friend believes that she is telling the truth</quote> Ford said they were there. Her supposed corroborating witnesses say they weren't there. That's a contradiction. They contradict Ford's testimony. It calls Ford's allegation and testimony into question. Prosecutor Reportedly Said She Wouldnt Charge Kavanaugh http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/28/rachel-mitchell-not-prosecute-kavanaugh-blasey-ford/ The sex crimes prosecutor tasked with questioning Christine Blasey Ford during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Judge Brett Kavanaugh told Republican senators on Thursday that Fords claims and the lack of corroborative evidence were not strong enough to take the case to a courtroom. Arizona prosecutor Rachel Mitchell spoke at a late-night Thursday meeting with the Republican caucus, where she briefed all 51 GOP members, according to The Washington Post. Based on the evidence presented during the hearing, Mitchell reportedly said that she would not have prosecuted Kavanaugh. (RELATED: Kavanaugh Breaks Down While Talking About His Dad) Mitchell spelled it out and was clear with senators that she could not take this anywhere near a courtroom, a source told Fox News. In fact, Mitchell reportedly said she would not even pursue a search warrant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 3:59:46 PM #69:	LightHawKnight posted... darkjedilink posted... _Goggalor_ posted... LightHawKnight posted... If only they would allow an investigation. Agreed. That is what's needed for both sides. Investigate what? She doesn't know where it happened, she doesn't know when it happened, and every person she says was at the party says they weren't at the party, including her best friend. Have a show investigation. Do something other than nothing. Wouldn't hurt to find more witnesses and get something. It literally can't hurt Kavanaugh, cause it is that old and hard to prove anything. If he didn't do it, then he should be fine with it. So, waste more time and money for literally no reason? And how are we going to find 'more witnesses?'. Ford's the only person who remembers the party in question, and she can't decide how many people were there. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909616395] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>If only they would allow an investigation.</quote> Agreed. That is what's needed for both sides.</quote> Investigate what? She doesn't know where it happened, she doesn't know when it happened, and every person she says was at the party says they weren't at the party, including her best friend.</quote> Have a show investigation. Do something other than nothing. Wouldn't hurt to find more witnesses and get something. It literally can't hurt Kavanaugh, cause it is that old and hard to prove anything. If he didn't do it, then he should be fine with it.</quote> So, waste more time and money for literally no reason? And how are we going to find 'more witnesses?'. Ford's the only person who remembers the party in question, and she can't decide how many people were there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 09/28/18 4:17:22 PM #70:	no again, they said they don't remember the party in question, not that they weren't there. It would contradict her testimony if the party happened last week, but not if it happened 30 years ago. This is not a difficult point to grasp --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:909617398] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>no again, they said they don't remember the party in question, not that they weren't there. It would contradict her testimony if the party happened last week, but not if it happened 30 years ago. This is not a difficult point to grasp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 09/28/18 4:21:57 PM #71:	bevan306 posted... no again, they said they don't remember the party in question, not that they weren't there. It would contradict her testimony if the party happened last week, but not if it happened 30 years ago. This is not a difficult point to grasp So you're arguing that these witnesses have faulty memories? But Ford's memory must be right... because, well just because? Interesting. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:909617638] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>bevan306 posted...</cite> <quote>no again, they said they don't remember the party in question, not that they weren't there. It would contradict her testimony if the party happened last week, but not if it happened 30 years ago. This is not a difficult point to grasp</quote> So you're arguing that these witnesses have faulty memories? But Ford's memory must be right... because, well just because? Interesting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 09/28/18 4:28:06 PM #72:	no I'm not arguing that she's right or wrong (personally I believe her, but that's just my impression). Just making a small point because you kept repeating something silly --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:909617949] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>no I'm not arguing that she's right or wrong (personally I believe her, but that's just my impression). Just making a small point because you kept repeating something silly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 09/28/18 4:28:47 PM #73:	Depends on the political party of the accused. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:909617998] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>Depends on the political party of the accused.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 09/28/18 4:30:51 PM #74:	It's not even just a "she said vs he said" situation It's a she said vs MULTIPLE people who contradict her allegation situation --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:909618132] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>It's not even just a "she said vs he said" situation It's a she said vs MULTIPLE people who contradict her allegation situation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 09/28/18 4:32:10 PM #75:	Most of CE has major issues anyway --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:909618207] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>Most of CE has major issues anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/28/18 4:59:05 PM #76:	Funbazooka posted... But Ford's memory must be right... because, well just because? Well no, not just because. Specifically because she went through something extremely traumatic, whereas for the others the night in question was completely unremarkable. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909619734] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>But Ford's memory must be right... because, well just because?</quote> Well no, not just because. Specifically because she went through something extremely traumatic, whereas for the others the night in question was completely unremarkable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 09/28/18 5:05:08 PM #77:	The burden of proof should and aught to always be on the accuser. A man should have to do nothing to prove his innocence except let the truth come out. Sadly today it seems all you need to is say he sexually assaulted me and now the accused is faced with the burden of proof which is half ass backwards and takes us back a 1000 years to a time where many confessed to crimes, and who could blame them, confessions were better than torture. But in an era where liberals have lost their minds in their anti Trump frenzy, Trump is guilty until proven more guilty. Kavanaugh will never be innocent in the eyes of liberals and it is a waste of time and effort to try and convince them <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:909620106] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>The burden of proof should and aught to always be on the accuser. A man should have to do nothing to prove his innocence except let the truth come out. Sadly today it seems all you need to is say he sexually assaulted me and now the accused is faced with the burden of proof which is half ass backwards and takes us back a 1000 years to a time where many confessed to crimes, and who could blame them, confessions were better than torture. But in an era where liberals have lost their minds in their anti Trump frenzy, Trump is guilty until proven more guilty. Kavanaugh will never be innocent in the eyes of liberals and it is a waste of time and effort to try and convince them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 09/28/18 5:05:15 PM #78:	It seems like she is telling what she believes is the truth from her perspective. However it is possible to be mistaken. I don't believe she is intentionally lying, but the lack of third party verification leaves it plausible she is mistaken. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:909620117] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>It seems like she is telling what she believes is the truth from her perspective. However it is possible to be mistaken. I don't believe she is intentionally lying, but the lack of third party verification leaves it plausible she is mistaken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 09/28/18 5:59:06 PM #79:	scar the 1 posted... Well no, not just because. Specifically because she went through something extremely traumatic That's your assumption. Putting the cart before the horse and circular logic. "How do we know Ford's memory of trauma is correct?" "Because she went through something traumatic" --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:909623081] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Well no, not just because. Specifically because she went through something extremely traumatic</quote> That's your assumption. Putting the cart before the horse and circular logic. "How do we know Ford's memory of trauma is correct?" "Because she went through something traumatic"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/28/18 6:28:26 PM #80:	scar the 1 posted... Funbazooka posted... But Ford's memory must be right... because, well just because? Well no, not just because. Specifically because she went through something extremely traumatic, whereas for the others the night in question was completely unremarkable. If her memory must be correct because of her trauma, how come she doesn't remember how she got there, or how she got back? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909624646] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>But Ford's memory must be right... because, well just because?</quote> Well no, not just because. Specifically because she went through something extremely traumatic, whereas for the others the night in question was completely unremarkable.</quote> If her memory must be correct because of her trauma, how come she doesn't remember how she got there, or how she got back?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/29/18 3:11:32 AM #81:	Ok, so let me clarify. It's not that it has to be correct or 100% accurate because of the trauma. It's that it's perfectly plausible for the witnesses to not remember because the night was uneventful to them, while at the same time it's plausible for dr. Ford to remember, because it was a traumatic event. Now if you're trying to fish out and construct some gotcha zinger by disregarding what is known about memory and trauma, have fun. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909646531] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>Ok, so let me clarify. It's not that it has to be correct or 100% accurate because of the trauma. It's that it's perfectly plausible for the witnesses to not remember because the night was uneventful to them, while at the same time it's plausible for dr. Ford to remember, because it was a traumatic event. Now if you're trying to fish out and construct some gotcha zinger by disregarding what is known about memory and trauma, have fun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:16:07 AM #82:	scar the 1 posted... Ok, so let me clarify. It's not that it has to be correct or 100% accurate because of the trauma. It's that it's perfectly plausible for the witnesses to not remember because the night was uneventful to them, while at the same time it's plausible for dr. Ford to remember, because it was a traumatic event. Now if you're trying to fish out and construct some gotcha zinger by disregarding what is known about memory and trauma, have fun. I'm not trying to construct a gotcha. I'm trying to point out that the only details about the entire event that we have are names, and not one single other person can recall said party. That goes beyond a less-than-perfectly-accurate memory - that suggests a zero-percent-accurate memory. It suggests that her memory, and therefore her entire accusation, carries less weight than of everyone else asked about it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909646639] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok, so let me clarify. It's not that it has to be correct or 100% accurate because of the trauma. It's that it's perfectly plausible for the witnesses to not remember because the night was uneventful to them, while at the same time it's plausible for dr. Ford to remember, because it was a traumatic event. Now if you're trying to fish out and construct some gotcha zinger by disregarding what is known about memory and trauma, have fun.</quote> I'm not trying to construct a gotcha. I'm trying to point out that the only details about the entire event that we have are names, and not one single other person can recall said party. That goes beyond a less-than-perfectly-accurate memory - that suggests a zero-percent-accurate memory. It suggests that her memory, and therefore her entire accusation, carries less weight than of everyone else asked about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/29/18 3:18:19 AM #83:	Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909646683] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:19:28 AM #84:	scar the 1 posted... Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma When you make an accusation, you don't get a free pass due to trauma. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909646713] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma</quote> When you make an accusation, you don't get a free pass due to trauma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/29/18 3:19:51 AM #85:	This from the guy who thinks a black guy following police orders should be gunned down. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:909646720] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>This from the guy who thinks a black guy following police orders should be gunned down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:20:20 AM #86:	cjsdowg posted... This from the guy who thinks a black guy following police orders should be gunned down. Who said that? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909646731] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>This from the guy who thinks a black guy following police orders should be gunned down.</quote> Who said that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/29/18 3:20:59 AM #87:	darkjedilink posted... scar the 1 posted... Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma When you make an accusation, you don't get a free pass due to trauma. Free pass? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909646746] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma</quote> When you make an accusation, you don't get a free pass due to trauma.</quote> Free pass?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/29/18 3:22:17 AM #88:	how about undetermined until innocent OR guilty? why does it have to be guilty or innocent first --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909646779] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>how about undetermined until innocent OR guilty? why does it have to be guilty or innocent first</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:26:41 AM #89:	scar the 1 posted... darkjedilink posted... scar the 1 posted... Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma When you make an accusation, you don't get a free pass due to trauma. Free pass? Your suggesting that her horrendous memory of the event in question shouldn't be used to question the veracity of her claims. That makes zero sense. When the only thing she remembers of her alleged sexual assault other than the fact that she was assaulted is full names of people at the party (a party absolutely nobody remembers attending), there's no legitimate reason to believe that she could not possibly have gotten the identities of the people attending wrong. It is not an uncommon occurrence to mistake an attacker's identity, especially if you don't know your attacker. If you're going to admit her memory is faulty, you HAVE to accept the possibility that she's mistaken about her attacker being Kavanaugh. If you're open to the possibility that she's mistaken about Kavanaugh, then you can't simultaneously claim her memory of Kavanaugh being her attacker cannot be questioned. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909646874] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Well you're certainly disregarding the way memory works in trauma</quote> When you make an accusation, you don't get a free pass due to trauma.</quote> Free pass?</quote> Your suggesting that her horrendous memory of the event in question shouldn't be used to question the veracity of her claims. That makes zero sense. When the only thing she remembers of her alleged sexual assault other than the fact that she was assaulted is full names of people at the party (a party absolutely nobody remembers attending), there's no legitimate reason to believe that she could not possibly have gotten the identities of the people attending wrong. It is not an uncommon occurrence to mistake an attacker's identity, especially if you don't know your attacker. If you're going to admit her memory is faulty, you HAVE to accept the possibility that she's mistaken about her attacker being Kavanaugh. If you're open to the possibility that she's mistaken about Kavanaugh, then you can't simultaneously claim her memory of Kavanaugh being her attacker cannot be questioned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/29/18 3:33:57 AM #90:	No, I'm suggesting that remembering some things extremely clearly while having little memory about other details is consistent with experiencing a traumatic event. I acknowledge that the lack of details makes her case weaker, but implying that because she doesn't remember everything it's likely that she misremembers the things that are etched in her brain is, well, ignorant. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909647017] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>No, I'm suggesting that remembering some things extremely clearly while having little memory about other details is consistent with experiencing a traumatic event. I acknowledge that the lack of details makes her case weaker, but implying that because she doesn't remember everything it's likely that she misremembers the things that are etched in her brain is, well, ignorant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:36:40 AM #91:	scar the 1 posted... No, I'm suggesting that remembering some things extremely clearly while having little memory about other details is consistent with experiencing a traumatic event. I acknowledge that the lack of details makes her case weaker, but implying that because she doesn't remember everything it's likely that she misremembers the things that are etched in her brain is, well, ignorant. More ignorant than suggesting that she's literally the only person who remembers this party, and the names of the people who attended (despite never having met hardly anyone there), and NOTHING ELSE, and suggesting otherwise makes you a sexist incel? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909647074] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>No, I'm suggesting that remembering some things extremely clearly while having little memory about other details is consistent with experiencing a traumatic event. I acknowledge that the lack of details makes her case weaker, but implying that because she doesn't remember everything it's likely that she misremembers the things that are etched in her brain is, well, ignorant.</quote> More ignorant than suggesting that she's literally the only person who remembers this party, and the names of the people who attended (despite never having met hardly anyone there), and NOTHING ELSE, and suggesting otherwise makes you a sexist incel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 09/29/18 3:42:29 AM #92:	This is the first time I've ever heard of alleged sexual assault victims losing large parts of their memories from trauma, unless say they were violently injured and actually suffered documented brain injuries. Because I've heard of that. But this is a new meme altogether. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:909647173] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>This is the first time I've ever heard of alleged sexual assault victims losing large parts of their memories from trauma, unless say they were violently injured and actually suffered documented brain injuries. Because I've heard of that. But this is a new meme altogether.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 09/29/18 3:45:40 AM #93:	_Goggalor_ posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... _Goggalor_ posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... _Goggalor_ posted... There is no yes or no answer to the question if you're being objective. Do you find her accusations credible? Why are you having such a hard time answering a simple question? Because logic dictates you don't have an opinion either way on something you can't prove. Sure you can. You can have an opinion based on anything. You don't know the facts without being able to prove it, but opinions are subjective and open to error. Do you think she was lying under oath? I'm not going to continue to go in circles with you. I myself don't hold opinions on things I can't imperically prove. It's the same logic as not having an opinion either way on the existence of a deity. Yes you do, you just don't admit it. You naturally form an opinion on everything, you're just choosing to ignore it. And dude, you can't have an opinion on something that's proven... It isnt your opinion that 2+2=4. Opinions are subjective conclusions when the objective truth is unknown. And again, you formed an opinion on Ford's accusations and testimony whether you wanted to or not. Contrary to what most people think, you don't actually choose what you believe or not. You can put it a front of what you want to believe, or what you want people to think you believe, but what you actually believe to be true is determined by how your brain processes the relevant information. And you have no say in that. TL;DR Don't be scared to answer a simple question. You have an opinion on the subject whether you like it or not, don't be scared to tell us what you think. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:909647237] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Goggalor_ posted...</cite> <quote>There is no yes or no answer to the question if you're being objective. </quote> Do you find her accusations credible? Why are you having such a hard time answering a simple question?</quote> Because logic dictates you don't have an opinion either way on something you can't prove.</quote> Sure you can. You can have an opinion based on anything. You don't know the facts without being able to prove it, but opinions are subjective and open to error. Do you think she was lying under oath?</quote> I'm not going to continue to go in circles with you. I myself don't hold opinions on things I can't imperically prove. It's the same logic as not having an opinion either way on the existence of a deity.</quote> Yes you do, you just don't admit it. You naturally form an opinion on everything, you're just choosing to ignore it. And dude, you can't have an opinion on something that's proven... It isnt your opinion that 2+2=4. Opinions are subjective conclusions when the objective truth is unknown. And again, you formed an opinion on Ford's accusations and testimony whether you wanted to or not. Contrary to what most people think, you don't actually choose what you believe or not. You can put it a front of what you want to believe, or what you want people to think you believe, but what you actually believe to be true is determined by how your brain processes the relevant information. And you have no say in that. TL;DR Don't be scared to answer a simple question. You have an opinion on the subject whether you like it or not, don't be scared to tell us what you think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:47:54 AM #94:	Funbazooka posted... This is the first time I've ever heard of alleged sexual assault victims losing large parts of their memories from trauma, unless say they were violently injured and actually suffered documented brain injuries. Because I've heard of that. But this is a new meme altogether. Google "suppressed memories." It is by no means universal, but it is not uncommon for people who are raped or sexually assaulted to have those memories suppressed due to the mental and emotional trauma. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909647276] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>This is the first time I've ever heard of alleged sexual assault victims losing large parts of their memories from trauma, unless say they were violently injured and actually suffered documented brain injuries. Because I've heard of that. But this is a new meme altogether.</quote> Google "suppressed memories." It is by no means universal, but it is not uncommon for people who are raped or sexually assaulted to have those memories suppressed due to the mental and emotional trauma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 09/29/18 3:50:21 AM #95:	darkjedilink posted... More ignorant than suggesting that she's literally the only person who remembers this party, and the names of the people who attended (despite never having met hardly anyone there), and NOTHING ELSE, and suggesting otherwise makes you a sexist incel? She explained this herself, nothing extraordinary happened to anyone else at this party, so they wouldn't remember it 30 years later. She would. Funbazooka posted... This is the first time I've ever heard of alleged sexual assault victims losing large parts of their memories from trauma, unless say they were violently injured and actually suffered documented brain injuries. Because I've heard of that. But this is a new meme altogether. I think it's more likely she lost parts of her memory the same way we all forget things that happened decades ago. The fact that she does accurately remember somethings proves that something happened to her to cause these details to be burned into her memory. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:909647318] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> More ignorant than suggesting that she's literally the only person who remembers this party, and the names of the people who attended (despite never having met hardly anyone there), and NOTHING ELSE, and suggesting otherwise makes you a sexist incel?</quote> She explained this herself, nothing extraordinary happened to anyone else at this party, so they wouldn't remember it 30 years later. She would. <cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>This is the first time I've ever heard of alleged sexual assault victims losing large parts of their memories from trauma, unless say they were violently injured and actually suffered documented brain injuries. Because I've heard of that. But this is a new meme altogether.</quote> I think it's more likely she lost parts of her memory the same way we all forget things that happened decades ago. The fact that she does accurately remember somethings proves that something happened to her to cause these details to be burned into her memory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 09/29/18 3:58:02 AM #96:	Well, regardless I don't understand how the absence of a memory backs up an accusation. Believing her story is largely dependent on her recollection, of which there is little. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:909647461] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote>Well, regardless I don't understand how the absence of a memory backs up an accusation. Believing her story is largely dependent on her recollection, of which there is little.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 09/29/18 3:58:34 AM #97:	Funbazooka posted... Well, regardless I don't understand how the absence of a memory backs up an accusation. Believing her story is largely dependent on her recollection, of which there is little. Agreed. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:909647472] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Well, regardless I don't understand how the absence of a memory backs up an accusation. Believing her story is largely dependent on her recollection, of which there is little.</quote> Agreed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vicedungwinsgam 09/29/18 3:59:25 AM #98:	pinky0926 posted... What is your opinion of the accusers? Because the exact same people who are shouting about damning an innocent man without evidence also tend to be quite comfortable to call every single one of these women a bunch of lying money-grubbing whores. spotted the foid --- gee <cite>vicedungwinsgam posted [p:909647491] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>What is your opinion of the accusers? Because the exact same people who are shouting about damning an innocent man without evidence also tend to be quite comfortable to call every single one of these women a bunch of lying money-grubbing whores.</quote> spotted the foid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 09/29/18 4:02:32 AM #99:	Funbazooka posted... Well, regardless I don't understand how the absence of a memory backs up an accusation. Believing her story is largely dependent on her recollection, of which there is little. It doesn't imo. And she remembers the important parts, which is what you'd expect her to remember if she were being truthful. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:909647543] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Well, regardless I don't understand how the absence of a memory backs up an accusation. Believing her story is largely dependent on her recollection, of which there is little.</quote> It doesn't imo. And she remembers the important parts, which is what you'd expect her to remember if she were being truthful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/29/18 4:24:52 AM #100:	scar the 1 posted... Boofing and Devil's triangle were very obvious lies. Whoa I'm just now seeing all the people that knew and said he was lying about that, as I had no idea and took his word for it. What a fucker. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:909647921] in Guilty unt... [t:77048253]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Boofing and Devil's triangle were very obvious lies.</quote> Whoa I'm just now seeing all the people that knew and said he was lying about that, as I had no idea and took his word for it. What a fucker.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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