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Caution998
09/18/18 2:14:04 PM
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https://www.eonline.com/news/969478/bert-and-ernie-are-a-gay-couple-says-sesame-street-writer

The streets are talking when it comes to Bert and Ernie's relationship.

Ever since Sesame Street started in 1969, fans of all ages have grown to love two of the original characters.

But in a new interview, Sesame Street writer Mark Saltzman confirmed the two are a gay couple.

"I remember one time that a column from The San Francisco Chronicle, a preschooler in the city turned to mom and asked 'are Bert & Ernie lovers?' And that, coming from a preschooler was fun. And that got passed around, and everyone had their chuckle and went back to it. And I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert & Ernie, they were," Mark shared with Queerty. "I didn't have any other way to contextualize them."

Mark explained that the duo is a reflection of his own same-sex relationship with film editor Arnold Glassman. He joked that he was Ernie while Arnold was Bert.

"I was already with Arnie when I came to Sesame Street. So I don't think I'd know how else to write them, but as a loving couple," he explained. "I wrote sketchesArnie's OCD would create friction with how chaotic I was. And that's the Bert & Ernie dynamic."

"I will say that I would never have said to the head writer, 'oh, I'm writing this, this is my partner and me.' But those two, Snuffalupagus, because he's the sort of clinically depressed Muppetyou had characters that appealed to a gay audience," Mark continued. "And Snuffy, this depressed person nobody can see, that's sort of Kafka! It's sort of gay closeted too."

Fans may also remember that in July 2013, The New Yorker magazine published an illustration of the two roomies shortly after the Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act.


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green butter
09/18/18 2:15:18 PM
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which one do u think is the bottom
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Kitt
09/18/18 2:15:30 PM
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rikasa
09/18/18 2:16:04 PM
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You know I was ready to moan and groan but hearing that it was based on his own gay relationship is really cute.
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creativerealms
09/18/18 2:16:12 PM
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Oh well everyone always knew that.
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Foppe
09/18/18 2:16:18 PM
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Another thing Simpsons predicted.
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eggcorn
09/18/18 2:16:37 PM
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Caution998 posted...

"I remember one time that a column from The San Francisco Chronicle, a preschooler in the city turned to mom and asked 'are Bert & Ernie lovers?' And that, coming from a preschooler was fun.


fun?
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Lebronwon
09/18/18 2:17:52 PM
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Thought everyone knew this already.
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Behaviorism
09/18/18 2:19:15 PM
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Sam Fisher: "I'm shocked and amazed."
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davyheinz
09/18/18 2:19:30 PM
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Good.
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 2:19:46 PM
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It's all just one writer bullshitting, until PBS (well, HBO now) airs the Bert & Ernie wedding episode.
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eston
09/18/18 2:21:29 PM
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Turbam
09/18/18 2:21:50 PM
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Bert: Ernie, how do I look?
Ernie: With your eyes Bert.
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Annihilated
09/18/18 2:23:18 PM
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rikasa posted...
You know I was ready to moan and groan but hearing that it was based on his own gay relationship is really cute.


I was expecting it to be a retcon too. Good that it's not.
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 2:24:27 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Ha! That that, conservatives!

No. Not yet.

Questionmarktarius posted...
It's all just one writer bullshitting, until PBS (well, HBO now) airs the Bert & Ernie wedding episode.
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ArchiePeck
09/18/18 2:24:43 PM
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Hasn't this been assumed for like 40+ years?
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southcoast09
09/18/18 2:24:47 PM
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Not surprised, but this is just another liberal plot to say take that, conservatives!
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SuperMariano3
09/18/18 2:25:03 PM
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This isn't the Word of God when it comes to these characters. If Frank Oz or Jim Henson relative said they were gay i would believe it. Not some random writer. A different writer said the characters were based on Henson and Oz friendship.

Not that I care either way but this person doesnt really seem to have to do with their origin.
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09/18/18 2:28:08 PM
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Damn_Underscore
09/18/18 2:30:08 PM
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It's literally Sesame Street. They have no sexuality.
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BeyondWalls
09/18/18 2:30:08 PM
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Caution998 posted...
Snuffalupagus, because he's the sort of clinically depressed Muppetyou had characters that appealed to a gay audience," Mark continued. "And Snuffy, this depressed person nobody can see, that's sort of Kafka! It's sort of gay closeted too."

NO. No. Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Esrac
09/18/18 2:31:28 PM
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A gay guy can't think of any other way two contextualize two male roommates and bestfriends that "gay for eachother"?

Just go with every other Heterosexual Life Partner.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeterosexualLifePartners

I don't mind that they've got gay characters and muppets. Or even that they're making these two gay. Though it might reinforce the idea that two guys can't just be really close friends without actually being gay.
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PhazonReborn
09/18/18 2:33:11 PM
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green butter posted...
which one do u think is the bottom

Ernie for sure
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09/18/18 2:36:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 2:38:01 PM
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Esrac posted...
I don't mind that they've got gay characters and muppets. Or even that they're making these two gay. Though it might reinforce the idea that two guys can't just be really close friends without actually being gay.

Generally, any two people who live together are assuming to be fucking. This even predates the alleged moral decay of society.

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eston
09/18/18 2:39:29 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Esrac posted...
A gay guy can't think of any other way two contextualize two male roommates and bestfriends that "gay for eachother"?

Just go with every other Heterosexual Life Partner.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeterosexualLifePartners

I don't mind that they've got gay characters and muppets. Or even that they're making these two gay. Though it might reinforce the idea that two guys can't just be really close friends without actually being gay.

It might not be that he couldnt contextualize male roommates in general, just these two specifically

Yeah he mentioned in the interview that their personalities are very similar to he and his partner
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slimfizzle2
09/18/18 2:41:51 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's all just one writer bullshitting, until PBS (well, HBO now) airs the Bert & Ernie wedding episode.

Bert & Ernie Red wedding

Elmo has gone insane
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TerrifyingRei
09/18/18 2:42:43 PM
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is their fan-name Bernie?
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 2:44:53 PM
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slimfizzle2 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's all just one writer bullshitting, until PBS (well, HBO now) airs the Bert & Ernie wedding episode.

Bert & Ernie Red wedding

Elmo has gone insane

Bullshit.

We all know it's Snuffy who's going to snap and murder everyone.
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Giant_Aspirin
09/18/18 2:57:56 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Not surprised, but this is just another liberal plot to say take that, conservatives!


victim complex in action right here.

and this only holds up if you genuinely believe that conservatives have something against gay people.
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09/18/18 3:00:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 3:01:35 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
This does seem a bit retconny to me....

Because didn't they say a few years ago that they were just friends who live together? Why say that, and then say this? Disorganized bunch of buffoons those Sesame Street people are.

They didn't want to lose sponsors, or whatever the hell the PBS approximation is.
Now that it's on HBO, who the fuck cares?
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FSABot
09/18/18 4:08:56 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/entertainment/bert-and-ernie-not-gay/index.html

Sesame Workshop says they're just "Best Friends"

fenderbender321 posted...
This does seem a bit retconny to me....

Because didn't they say a few years ago that they were just friends who live together? Why say that, and then say this? Disorganized bunch of buffoons those Sesame Street people are.


I think Sesame Street isn't really at the point where they want to promote gay couples to kids, even if that was their original basis for the writing.
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slimfizzle2
09/18/18 9:23:46 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
slimfizzle2 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's all just one writer bullshitting, until PBS (well, HBO now) airs the Bert & Ernie wedding episode.

Bert & Ernie Red wedding

Elmo has gone insane

Bullshit.

We all know it's Snuffy who's going to snap and murder everyone.
"think I'm imaginary now, bitch?!"

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RoboLaserGandhi
09/18/18 9:28:55 PM
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rikasa posted...
You know I was ready to moan and groan but hearing that it was based on his own gay relationship is really cute.

Yeah I was about to say that just because two guys are close friends doesn't mean they're gay and that corrupting the characters this way is regressive, but I guess they were like that from the beginning.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/18/18 9:30:10 PM
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FSABot posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/entertainment/bert-and-ernie-not-gay/index.html

Sesame Workshop says they're just "Best Friends"

fenderbender321 posted...
This does seem a bit retconny to me....

Because didn't they say a few years ago that they were just friends who live together? Why say that, and then say this? Disorganized bunch of buffoons those Sesame Street people are.


I think Sesame Street isn't really at the point where they want to promote gay couples to kids, even if that was their original basis for the writing.


Its definitely NOT the original basis.

Apparently being gay is a choice that someone else makes for you. An older male at that. Hmmm....
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lifeamovie
09/18/18 9:33:00 PM
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Omfg this revisionist sjw bull shit is so fucking stupid
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sktgamer_13dude
09/18/18 9:33:39 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
FSABot posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/entertainment/bert-and-ernie-not-gay/index.html

Sesame Workshop says they're just "Best Friends"

fenderbender321 posted...
This does seem a bit retconny to me....

Because didn't they say a few years ago that they were just friends who live together? Why say that, and then say this? Disorganized bunch of buffoons those Sesame Street people are.


I think Sesame Street isn't really at the point where they want to promote gay couples to kids, even if that was their original basis for the writing.


Its definitely NOT the original basis.

Apparently being gay is a choice that someone else makes for you. An older male at that. Hmmm....

So people are only gay because an older male fucked them and told them theyre gay?

Seems like a shitty worldview.
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dave_is_slick
09/18/18 9:36:32 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Esrac posted...
I don't mind that they've got gay characters and muppets. Or even that they're making these two gay. Though it might reinforce the idea that two guys can't just be really close friends without actually being gay.

Generally, any two people who live together are assuming to be fucking. This even predates the alleged moral decay of society.

See also (naughty words warning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulteZYyWAA8" data-time="

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Vertania
09/18/18 9:38:07 PM
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One Halloween, I had two guys in Bert and Ernie costumes call me a "f**." Always thought that was ironic and funny, but this just makes it even better.
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BoxxY2JosHBK
09/19/18 2:31:34 PM
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Generally, any two people who live together are assuming to be fucking. This even predates the alleged moral decay of society

Lol, this is not a real thing. I really hope you don't actually believe this.
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