Current Events > CNN defends Antifa. Again.

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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:15:55 PM
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tl;dw: CNN legal analyst says Antifa is a "african-american organization" like BLM and that it's racist to oppose them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6fFWBzvXNY" data-time="


Like bitch I have never seen a black person in an Antifa rally. Every time one of those creeps gets unmasked they're always some douchey white suburbanite college student.
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Muffinz0rz
08/30/18 10:18:20 PM
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X-Pac_Heat
08/30/18 10:18:55 PM
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CNN is going to instigate a race war with this shit, I swear to god
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prince_leo
08/30/18 10:20:17 PM
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Lets be clear also about whats going on here, Toobin said in a panel discussion with Wolf Blitzer. The theme here is, Im Donald Trump and Ill protect you from the scary black people. Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization, and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.

This is about black versus white. This is about Donald Trumps appeal to racism and it just happens all the time. And we never say itwe dont say it enough for what it is, but thats whats going on here, he added.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-warning-antifa-violence-after-midterms-was-about-scary-black-people-1093848

so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation, he's saying Trump was using it instead of saying black people
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TomNook20
08/30/18 10:20:53 PM
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DarkTransient
08/30/18 10:21:28 PM
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Literally no one thinks Antifa are a black organisation tho. It's literally just CNN racebaiting.

If they said the same about BLM, they may have a point. While you only have to look up a few rally photos to realise BLM, too, is predominantly white; it's at least understandable that you might think it's a black movement.
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silentwing26x
08/30/18 10:21:46 PM
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CNN needs to be shut down before they instigate a race war.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:22:06 PM
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prince_leo posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-warning-antifa-violence-after-midterms-was-about-scary-black-people-1093848

so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation, he's saying Trump was using it instead of saying black people

Yeah, a domestic terrorist group consisting almost entirely of white people is code for "black people".

They're not even trying to hide their race-baiting anymore.
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Yazarogi
08/30/18 10:22:21 PM
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No one in this thread watched the video or even heard the words the guy said.
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TomNook20
08/30/18 10:23:22 PM
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prince_leo posted...
so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation

prince_leo posted...
Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization

Stop Giulianing.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:24:13 PM
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Yazarogi posted...
No one in this thread watched the video or even heard the words the guy said.

He said Antifa is a black organization.

It is not.
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DarkTransient
08/30/18 10:24:39 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
prince_leo posted...
so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation

prince_leo posted...
Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization

Stop Giulianing.


He's not contradicting himself in any way there. He's saying it's perceived as (but is not actually) a black organisation.

The issue isn't self-contradiction, it's that the claim Antifa are perceived as a black organisation is complete bullshit.
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VipaGTS
08/30/18 10:25:17 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
prince_leo posted...
so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation

prince_leo posted...
Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization

Stop Giulianing.

"and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players."

so what prince_leo said was right. I like how you completely didn't quote the context that came in the VERY NEXT LINE....Yet, you cry all day about "fake news"....practice what you preach, for once.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:25:59 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
"and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players."

Except it's not
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TomNook20
08/30/18 10:27:16 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
The issue isn't self-contradiction, it's that the claim Antifa are perceived as a black organisation is complete bullshit.

Yes and that's not what leo said.
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hockeybub89
08/30/18 10:27:45 PM
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Wait. Is Trump seriously trying to scare people into voting Republican by warning of unrest if they lose? Imagine if Obama did that.
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VipaGTS
08/30/18 10:28:07 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
VipaGTS posted...
"and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players."

Except it's not

Has nothing to do with my post. I was calling him out for doing what he's in this topic crying about. I don''t agree with the guy on CNN.
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TomNook20
08/30/18 10:29:40 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
TomNook20 posted...
prince_leo posted...
so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation

prince_leo posted...
Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization

Stop Giulianing.

"and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players."

so what prince_leo said was right. I like how you completely didn't quote the context that came in the VERY NEXT LINE....Yet, you cry all day about "fake news"....practice what you preach, for once.

No he's not. Antifa is not a black organisation and no one other than Jeffery toobles thinks they are. I can't believe people actually try to defend this shit.
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Darmik
08/30/18 10:29:50 PM
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prince_leo posted...
Lets be clear also about whats going on here, Toobin said in a panel discussion with Wolf Blitzer. The theme here is, Im Donald Trump and Ill protect you from the scary black people. Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization, and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.

This is about black versus white. This is about Donald Trumps appeal to racism and it just happens all the time. And we never say itwe dont say it enough for what it is, but thats whats going on here, he added.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-warning-antifa-violence-after-midterms-was-about-scary-black-people-1093848

so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation, he's saying Trump was using it instead of saying black people


Do you think Mal will ever make a topic that doesn't require further information, more context and clarification?

Me neither.
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BWing
08/30/18 10:30:01 PM
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I really don't get how you people can support Trump and complain about other's lies. You know how many lies he told today at his safespace jerkfest alone?
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DarkTransient
08/30/18 10:31:02 PM
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Darmik posted...
prince_leo posted...
Lets be clear also about whats going on here, Toobin said in a panel discussion with Wolf Blitzer. The theme here is, Im Donald Trump and Ill protect you from the scary black people. Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization, and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.

This is about black versus white. This is about Donald Trumps appeal to racism and it just happens all the time. And we never say itwe dont say it enough for what it is, but thats whats going on here, he added.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-warning-antifa-violence-after-midterms-was-about-scary-black-people-1093848

so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation, he's saying Trump was using it instead of saying black people


Do you think Mal will ever make a topic that doesn't require further information, more context and clarification?

Me neither.


Uh, the guy's still very much defending Antifa too. But leave it to leftists to be like "we shot down one claim, that means the entire thing doesn't matter".
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:31:42 PM
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BWing posted...
I really don't get how you people can support Trump and complain about other's lies. You know how many lies he told today at his safespace jerkfest alone?

"B-B-B-BUT TRUMP"

Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.
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Darmik
08/30/18 10:32:00 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Darmik posted...
prince_leo posted...
Lets be clear also about whats going on here, Toobin said in a panel discussion with Wolf Blitzer. The theme here is, Im Donald Trump and Ill protect you from the scary black people. Antifa is widely perceived as an African-American organization, and this is just part of the same story of LeBron James and Don Lemon and Maxine Waters and the NFL players and the UCLA basketball players.

This is about black versus white. This is about Donald Trumps appeal to racism and it just happens all the time. And we never say itwe dont say it enough for what it is, but thats whats going on here, he added.

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-warning-antifa-violence-after-midterms-was-about-scary-black-people-1093848

so he isn't saying Antifa is a black organisation, he's saying Trump was using it instead of saying black people


Do you think Mal will ever make a topic that doesn't require further information, more context and clarification?

Me neither.


Uh, the guy's still very much defending Antifa too. But leave it to leftists to be like "we shot down one claim, that means the entire thing doesn't matter".


Darmik posted...
Do you think Mal will ever make a topic that doesn't require further information, more context and clarification?

Me neither.

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VipaGTS
08/30/18 10:32:00 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
No he's not. Antifa is not a black organisation and no one other than Jeffery toobles thinks they are. I can't believe people actually try to defend this shit.

Yes, i agree, but prince_leo was not contradicting himself. he was explaining what the guy on CNN was ACTUALLY saying, whether you agree with him or not, providing context for it...you went ahead and deleted that context to try and make it look like leo was contradicting himself. Like i said, practice what you preach. if you hate fake news then don't edit context out of quotes because they go against your narrative. You're doing what the same news station you hate is doing. grow up.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:32:24 PM
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Darmik posted...
Do you think Mal will ever make a topic that doesn't require further information, more context and clarification?

Me neither.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Yeah, a domestic terrorist group consisting almost entirely of white people is code for "black people".

They're not even trying to hide their race-baiting anymore

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Antifar
08/30/18 10:33:25 PM
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I don't read it as a defense of Antifa, but sort of a hamfisted attempt to tie Antifa in with Trump's racism, which I don't think quite belongs. The simpler, more straightforward critique is that Trump's whole shtick is selling himself as a culture warrior against (almost always inflated) threats of immigrants, crime, PC culture, etc. And that, for obvious reasons, antifa actions aren't really correlated with the electoral success of the Democratic Party.
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BWing
08/30/18 10:33:32 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
I really don't get how you people can support Trump and complain about other's lies. You know how many lies he told today at his safespace jerkfest alone?

"B-B-B-BUT TRUMP"

Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.

It's not B-b-b-b-b-but Trump when the topic is talking about him.

But seriously, it's like you're criticizing a glass of water for being too salty while gleefully slurping up the ocean
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FursonaNonGrata
08/30/18 10:34:23 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
CNN is going to instigate a race war with this shit, I swear to god


silentwing26x posted...
CNN needs to be shut down before they instigate a race war.


Always weird when two random ppl bring up the exact same fearmongering talking point. Y'all read this on the_donald or Stormfront?
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TomNook20
08/30/18 10:35:03 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Yes, i agree, but prince_leo was not contradicting himself. he was explaining what the guy on CNN was ACTUALLY saying, whether you agree with him or not, providing context for it...you went ahead and deleted that context to try and make it look like leo was contradicting himself. Like i said, practice what you preach. if you hate fake news then don't edit context out of quotes because they go against your narrative. You're doing what the same news station you hate is doing. grow up

Reading his post again I see what you mean, I misunderstood it the first time. But holy shit dude get off your fucking high horse. You can say that's not what he meant without going on some insane tirade.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:35:06 PM
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BWing posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
I really don't get how you people can support Trump and complain about other's lies. You know how many lies he told today at his safespace jerkfest alone?

"B-B-B-BUT TRUMP"

Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.

It's not B-b-b-b-b-but Trump when the topic is talking about him.

But seriously, it's like you're criticizing a glass of water for being too salty while gleefully slurping up the ocean

Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.

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Antifar
08/30/18 10:35:36 PM
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For CNN to instigate anything, people under 60 would have to watch them.
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VipaGTS
08/30/18 10:37:43 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Yes, i agree, but prince_leo was not contradicting himself. he was explaining what the guy on CNN was ACTUALLY saying, whether you agree with him or not, providing context for it...you went ahead and deleted that context to try and make it look like leo was contradicting himself. Like i said, practice what you preach. if you hate fake news then don't edit context out of quotes because they go against your narrative. You're doing what the same news station you hate is doing. grow up

Reading his post again I see what you mean, I misunderstood it the first time. But holy shit dude get off your fucking high horse. You can say that's not what he meant without going on some insane tirade.

Because just as much as you hate misrepresentation and misquoting from places like CNN, i find it annoying as well. And this isn't the first time I've seen you make a post like that. I'd just for once like for the people who claim to be against this stuff actually not partake in it. the fact that you do it to shows you just use it as a distraction rather than trying to actually have a discussion.
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BWing
08/30/18 10:38:02 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
I really don't get how you people can support Trump and complain about other's lies. You know how many lies he told today at his safespace jerkfest alone?

"B-B-B-BUT TRUMP"

Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.

It's not B-b-b-b-b-but Trump when the topic is talking about him.

But seriously, it's like you're criticizing a glass of water for being too salty while gleefully slurping up the ocean

Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.

The way he lies and inflates the threat level of MS 13 in his fear mongering could be equated to this, yeah.
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AmericaTheBrave
08/30/18 10:38:18 PM
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CNN is a terrible network that will do anything for ratings. They are trying to tie Antifa into racism because racism gets the biggest ratings for them.

You'd think the fact that active domestic terrorists operating on US soil and getting away with it would be a juicy enough story, but apparently not.
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TomNook20
08/30/18 10:39:51 PM
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VipaGTS posted...

Because just as much as you hate misrepresentation and misquoting from places like CNN, i find it annoying as well. And this isn't the first time I've seen you make a post like that. I'd just for once like for the people who claim to be against this stuff actually not partake in it. the fact that you do it to shows you just use it as a distraction rather than trying to actually have a discussion

Yeah right. I misunderstood a post, people pointed out, i went back reread it and admitted I was wrong. What the fuck are you going on about? Stop trying to argue for the sake of arguing.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:40:19 PM
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BWing posted...
The way he lies and inflates the threat level of MS 13 in his fear mongering could be equated to this, yeah.

There's more active members of MS-13 than members of the ANP or KKK, but that doesn't stop CNN from freaking out about them in every segment.
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Antifar
08/30/18 10:40:37 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.


yes
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/20/donald_trump_boston_immigrant_attack_beaten_homeless_hispanic_man_should.html
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FursonaNonGrata
08/30/18 10:41:03 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists?


AmericaTheBrave posted...
You'd think the fact that active domestic terrorists operating on US soil and getting away with it


More weirdly specific (and untrue) talking points
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Nomadic View
08/30/18 10:41:30 PM
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More people are interested in Ancient Aliens than CNN.

Does anyone take CNN seriously anymore?
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BWing
08/30/18 10:41:46 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
The way he lies and inflates the threat level of MS 13 in his fear mongering could be equated to this, yeah.

There's more active members of MS-13 than members of the ANP or KKK, but that doesn't stop CNN from freaking out about them in every segment.

Now you're deflecting after I provided you with an example of Trump's lying. Seriously, you're criticizing the heat of a candle while living on the sun.
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Intro2Logic
08/30/18 10:41:57 PM
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Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.


yes
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/20/donald_trump_boston_immigrant_attack_beaten_homeless_hispanic_man_should.html

Also, isn't the "very fine people" remark in this category too?
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:42:39 PM
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Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.


yes
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/20/donald_trump_boston_immigrant_attack_beaten_homeless_hispanic_man_should.html

I like how they cut out the part of his quote where he denounces the assault.

Lol Slate.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:43:09 PM
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BWing posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
The way he lies and inflates the threat level of MS 13 in his fear mongering could be equated to this, yeah.

There's more active members of MS-13 than members of the ANP or KKK, but that doesn't stop CNN from freaking out about them in every segment.

Now you're deflecting after I provided you with an example of Trump's lying. Seriously, you're criticizing the heat of a candle while living on the sun.

When did he lie about MS-13
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Antifar
08/30/18 10:45:43 PM
#46:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Seriously though, did any of his lies include defending domestic terrorists? Because that's the kind of shit CNN lies about.


yes
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/20/donald_trump_boston_immigrant_attack_beaten_homeless_hispanic_man_should.html

I like how they cut out the part of his quote where he denounces the assault.

Lol Slate.

That's the full quote in the Boston Globe article being cited, ellipses and all. I invite you to try and find a longer version of it.
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BWing
08/30/18 10:45:57 PM
#47:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
BWing posted...
The way he lies and inflates the threat level of MS 13 in his fear mongering could be equated to this, yeah.

There's more active members of MS-13 than members of the ANP or KKK, but that doesn't stop CNN from freaking out about them in every segment.

Now you're deflecting after I provided you with an example of Trump's lying. Seriously, you're criticizing the heat of a candle while living on the sun.

When did he lie about MS-13

First article on Google
https://www.propublica.org/article/ms-13-immigration-facts-what-trump-administration-gets-wrong

Also there's a bit of him talking about ICE having to liberate cities from MS 13 control which is blatantly false.

Seriously, how can you claim to care this much about the truth while supporting a man who changes the truth as most people change their underwear? You're a hypocrite.
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Sephiroth1288
08/30/18 10:50:32 PM
#48:


BWing posted...
First article on Google
https://www.propublica.org/article/ms-13-immigration-facts-what-trump-administration-gets-wrong

Wooow

"1. MS-13 is not conspiring to break immigration law"

Except for how they in fact traffic sex slaves across borders and how a huge percentage of them are illegals themselves?

What a load of crap.
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BWing
08/30/18 10:52:30 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
1. MS-13 is not conspiring to break immigration law"

Well yeah, when you misquote something, you're sure to win.

They're not ORGANIZING
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Doom_Art
08/30/18 10:53:56 PM
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Another day another Maltdown
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Bishop9800
08/30/18 10:55:26 PM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
There's more active members of MS-13 than members of the ANP or KKK, but that doesn't stop CNN from freaking out about them in every segment.


source
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