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BeantownHero 08/22/18 6:23:06 PM #1:	He admits to violating campaign finance law in this Fox interview http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/commenting-the-hush-money-payoffs-trump-makes-matters-worse/amp?__twitter_impression=true Instead let's focus on how incriminating the president's on-camera comments were. First, Trump told reporters on camera in April that he didn't know about the payment to Stormy Daniels. Today he said largely the opposite, which raises the question of why he found it necessary to lie four months ago. Second, asked about the payments to the women, Trump said he learned about them "later on." That also appears to be a lie: we've all heard the recording of then-candidate Trump talking about the Karen McDougal payoff in September 2016. But the key phase in the excerpt of today's interview was Trump, in the context of explaining where the hush-money came from, conceding, "It came from me." The president has a habit of volunteering incriminating information for no apparent reason. It happened last year when he told NBC News' Lester Holt that he fired former FBI Director James Comey over the investigation into the Russia scandal; it happened again last week when Trump contradicted the White House line on why he revoked former CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance; and it arguably happened again in today's interview. Trump is convinced the core question is whether campaign funds were used to finance the payoff. But that's wrong. The controversy is about whether Trump made an undisclosed payment to an alleged former mistress in order to affect the outcome of the campaign. The whole point -- what makes this a scandal -- is that Trump and his lawyer conspired to execute their scheme in secret, circumventing the law. The president and his "fixer" made a campaign-related expenditure from a non-campaign account, outside of campaign-finance laws. Because Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, he thinks he's making things better for himself by saying he paid the hush-money instead of using campaign funds. What the president doesn't understand is that this makes things worse. --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:907367309] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>He admits to violating campaign finance law in this Fox interview http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/commenting-the-hush-money-payoffs-trump-makes-matters-worse/amp?__twitter_impression=true Instead let's focus on how incriminating the president's on-camera comments were. First, Trump told reporters on camera in April that he didn't know about the payment to Stormy Daniels. Today he said largely the opposite, which raises the question of why he found it necessary to lie four months ago. Second, asked about the payments to the women, Trump said he learned about them "later on." That also appears to be a lie: we've all heard the recording of then-candidate Trump talking about the Karen McDougal payoff in September 2016. But the key phase in the excerpt of today's interview was Trump, in the context of explaining where the hush-money came from, conceding, "It came from me." The president has a habit of volunteering incriminating information for no apparent reason. It happened last year when he told NBC News' Lester Holt that he fired former FBI Director James Comey over the investigation into the Russia scandal; it happened again last week when Trump contradicted the White House line on why he revoked former CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance; and it arguably happened again in today's interview. Trump is convinced the core question is whether campaign funds were used to finance the payoff. But that's wrong. The controversy is about whether Trump made an undisclosed payment to an alleged former mistress in order to affect the outcome of the campaign. The whole point -- what makes this a scandal -- is that Trump and his lawyer conspired to execute their scheme in secret, circumventing the law. The president and his "fixer" made a campaign-related expenditure from a non-campaign account, outside of campaign-finance laws. Because Trump doesn't know what he's talking about, he thinks he's making things better for himself by saying he paid the hush-money instead of using campaign funds. What the president doesn't understand is that this makes things worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/22/18 6:23:38 PM #2:	shrug Better than Hillary <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:907367346] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>shrug Better than Hillary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 08/22/18 6:24:15 PM #3:	I think a lot of them have invested so much energy supporting him to this point that they cant let go. Sunk cost fallacy and all. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:907367387] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>I think a lot of them have invested so much energy supporting him to this point that they cant let go. Sunk cost fallacy and all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pauIie 08/22/18 6:24:52 PM #5:	because it triggers the libs --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:907367416] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>because it triggers the libs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWing 08/22/18 6:24:57 PM #6:	Idiocy, insecurity, and librulz tears <cite>BWing posted [p:907367420] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>Idiocy, insecurity, and librulz tears</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 08/22/18 6:27:13 PM #7:	https://rockatee.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Id-rather-be-A-Russian-than-Democrat-shirt.jpg --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:907367545] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>https://rockatee.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Id-rather-be-A-Russian-than-Democrat-shirt.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 08/22/18 6:28:33 PM #8:	X-Pac_Heat posted... shrug Better than Hillary No. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| ESO: @Ultima_Vyse RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/99 FISH/ 96/99 Cooking <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:907367622] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote>shrug Better than Hillary</quote> No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/22/18 6:30:01 PM #9:	Because it doesn't negate the good he's done for the country, especially the economy and growth. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:907367720] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>Because it doesn't negate the good he's done for the country, especially the economy and growth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWing 08/22/18 6:30:41 PM #10:	Funbazooka posted... the good he's done Oh wait, you're serious <cite>BWing posted [p:907367759] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>the good he's done</quote> Oh wait, you're serious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 08/22/18 6:31:27 PM #11:	https://www.truthbrary.org/ --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:907367806] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>https://www.truthbrary.org/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 08/22/18 6:32:53 PM #12:	pauIie posted... because it triggers the libs Pretty much. I mean one might not have to like or support the bloke. Like I don't really give a damn who the President is. But it's still fun to see self righteous Liberal types get all broken up about it. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:907367886] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>because it triggers the libs</quote> Pretty much. I mean one might not have to like or support the bloke. Like I don't really give a damn who the President is. But it's still fun to see self righteous Liberal types get all broken up about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/22/18 6:34:57 PM #13:	BWing posted... Funbazooka posted... the good he's done Oh wait, you're serious You'll need more emoticons than that to convince anyone. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:907368002] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>the good he's done</quote> Oh wait, you're serious </quote> You'll need more emoticons than that to convince anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SideshowBob311 08/22/18 6:37:29 PM #14:	Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot. --- "Whether or not you can handle it, you have just heard another statement of the TRUTH." [WoT] - [Evil Republican] <cite>SideshowBob311 posted [p:907368140] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 08/22/18 6:40:05 PM #15:	SideshowBob311 posted... Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot. you're crazy if you think hes getting a nomination through while this is happening --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:907368290] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot.</quote> you're crazy if you think hes getting a nomination through while this is happening</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 08/22/18 6:40:18 PM #16:	No idea why people actually like him. But, he was chosen in 2016, out of two options, of which he seemed by far the less evil at the time, and very arguably still does, even if the margin of difference has greatly decreased. And until 2020, he's almost certianly staying there, like it or not, no matter how much you complain. Come 2020, that's the time to talk about getting him out and someone better in. If the Democrats don't provide a good candidate (and I'll bet they won't, but who knows), then it's going to be more important than ever to remind people of the 3rd party option and persuade them it's viable (because it is, if enough people agree that it is and thus vote for it). --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:907368297] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>No idea why people actually like him. But, he was chosen in 2016, out of two options, of which he seemed by far the less evil at the time, and very arguably still does, even if the margin of difference has greatly decreased. And until 2020, he's almost certianly staying there, like it or not, no matter how much you complain. Come 2020, that's the time to talk about getting him out and someone better in. If the Democrats don't provide a good candidate (and I'll bet they won't, but who knows), then it's going to be more important than ever to remind people of the 3rd party option and persuade them it's viable (because it is, if enough people agree that it is and thus vote for it).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 08/22/18 6:40:20 PM #17:	SideshowBob311 posted... Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot. How so? Is there going to be a purge on the sitting Republican justices until eventually republicans stop running for SCOTUS? If not then I don't see it happening. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:907368301] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot.</quote> How so? Is there going to be a purge on the sitting Republican justices until eventually republicans stop running for SCOTUS? If not then I don't see it happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 08/22/18 6:41:41 PM #18:	FrisbeeDude posted... SideshowBob311 posted... Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot. you're crazy if you think hes getting a nomination through while this is happening You kidding? The entire GOP would happily sell their seats to get Trump another court pick. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:907368377] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot.</quote> you're crazy if you think hes getting a nomination through while this is happening</quote> You kidding? The entire GOP would happily sell their seats to get Trump another court pick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 08/22/18 6:46:00 PM #19:	P4wn4g3 posted... FrisbeeDude posted... SideshowBob311 posted... Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot. you're crazy if you think hes getting a nomination through while this is happening You kidding? The entire GOP would happily sell their seats to get Trump another court pick. Plus the Democrats have no way of stopping this. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:907368639] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't get me wrong, he's pretty near the bottom of the "people I would have liked in the White House" list, but at least there's going to be two good Supreme Court justices as a consolation prize for putting up with this loud idiot.</quote> you're crazy if you think hes getting a nomination through while this is happening</quote> You kidding? The entire GOP would happily sell their seats to get Trump another court pick.</quote> Plus the Democrats have no way of stopping this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 08/22/18 6:48:56 PM #20:	Nothing matters when your upsetting the other side. This is the state of politics now. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:907368806] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>Nothing matters when your upsetting the other side. This is the state of politics now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 08/22/18 6:50:00 PM #21:	He hasn't done anything yet to make me stop supporting him. --- CE's source of sagely advice #BLM <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:907368879] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>He hasn't done anything yet to make me stop supporting him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trevor_Belmont 08/22/18 6:50:23 PM #22:	Funbazooka posted... the good he's done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0" data-time=" --- Bah weep Granah Weep Nini Bong Switch FC: SW-3150-0817-3331 Feel free to send an invite if you want. <cite>Trevor_Belmont posted [p:907368910] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote> the good he's done</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 08/22/18 6:58:24 PM #23:	I don't fully support him, but at least he does this to liberals who have zero gun education, but think they're qualified to decide gun laws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2R2btO4MEo" data-time=" --- House music owns. <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:907369416] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>I don't fully support him, but at least he does this to liberals who have zero gun education, but think they're qualified to decide gun laws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2R2btO4MEo" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 08/22/18 6:59:04 PM #24:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Sunk cost fallacy this and sticking it to the libs --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:907369477] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>Sunk cost fallacy</quote> this and sticking it to the libs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/22/18 8:14:28 PM #25:	Hexenherz posted... X-Pac_Heat posted... shrug Better than Hillary No. Ya <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:907373983] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>X-Pac_Heat posted...</cite> <quote>shrug Better than Hillary</quote> No.</quote> Ya</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 08/22/18 8:16:39 PM #26:	Show me a modern presidential candidate who hasn't broken campaign finance law. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 5 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:907374104] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>Show me a modern presidential candidate who hasn't broken campaign finance law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 08/22/18 8:23:22 PM #27:	right wing nationalism isn't frequently the most coherent nor logical of ldelogies --- "A superhero in the flesh, even at my worst I'm the best"-Big KRIT <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:907374446] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>right wing nationalism isn't frequently the most coherent nor logical of ldelogies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWing 08/22/18 8:25:20 PM #28:	voldothegr8 posted... Show me a modern presidential candidate who hasn't broken campaign finance law. Obama broke it by not filing on time. Trump broke it by conspiring to cover up his illicit affair by funneling money. Oh, and not filing on time. <cite>BWing posted [p:907374558] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Show me a modern presidential candidate who hasn't broken campaign finance law.</quote> Obama broke it by not filing on time. Trump broke it by conspiring to cover up his illicit affair by funneling money. Oh, and not filing on time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/22/18 8:39:09 PM #29:	If we had a viable candidate who was willing to stand up against the direction our country was headed (bad trade deals, bad immigration policies, high taxes, too many regulations, poor infrastructure, etc) then I would have probably voted for them over Trump---but we didn't have that. Just more of the same mediocrity. Literally Jeb was going to be a front runner until Trump came along (YUCK!) Trump was the only person who stood out, and he's done a great job at keeping his promises and working hard to fulfill others. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:907375404] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote>If we had a viable candidate who was willing to stand up against the direction our country was headed (bad trade deals, bad immigration policies, high taxes, too many regulations, poor infrastructure, etc) then I would have probably voted for them over Trump---but we didn't have that. Just more of the same mediocrity. Literally Jeb was going to be a front runner until Trump came along (YUCK!) Trump was the only person who stood out, and he's done a great job at keeping his promises and working hard to fulfill others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BWing 08/22/18 8:41:11 PM #30:	Capn Circus posted... great job at keeping his promises He still has yet to drain the Swamp he installed <cite>BWing posted [p:907375504] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>great job at keeping his promises</quote> He still has yet to drain the Swamp he installed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X-Pac_Heat 08/22/18 8:47:28 PM #31:	BWing posted... He still has yet to drain the Swamp he installed That wasn't his promise. <cite>X-Pac_Heat posted [p:907375858] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote>He still has yet to drain the Swamp he installed</quote> That wasn't his promise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 08/22/18 8:49:16 PM #32:	voldothegr8 posted... Show me a modern presidential candidate who hasn't broken campaign finance law. This seems slightly more significant than a paperwork error --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:907375948] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Show me a modern presidential candidate who hasn't broken campaign finance law.</quote> This seems slightly more significant than a paperwork error</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slimfizzle2 08/22/18 8:50:05 PM #33:	BWing posted... Capn Circus posted... great job at keeping his promises He still has yet to drain the Swamp he installed But he did lock Hillary up. And don't get me started on his majestic wall he built with Mexico's money --- Solomon Grundy wants Pants Too! <cite>slimfizzle2 posted [p:907375983] in How can an... [t:76927788]...</cite> <quote><cite>BWing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>great job at keeping his promises</quote> He still has yet to drain the Swamp he installed</quote> But he did lock Hillary up. And don't get me started on his majestic wall he built with Mexico's money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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