Current Events > My ex did something I think is pretty scummy

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Spam_n_eggs posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

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KhanJohnny posted...

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Flockaveli posted...

Youre that long distance open relationship with a college chick guy right?



Also you never answered my question when you first made the topic:

Is she Asian?

Isnt TC one of those guys who post racist stuff all the time?

And he dares have his feelings hurt? Lmao why can you have feelings and deserve empathy and closure when youre cruel to others because of the color of their skin!?

I'm a racial minority myself so I really doubt I'm racist, but maybe so.

Oh yeah the old I am a Saxon from westfalia and therefore a minority in Detroit shtick huh?

I'm literally not white. I don't know what you people want from me. My conservatism is mostly anti-SJW hysteria and opposition to transgender stuff. If you want to call me a bigot about that, feel free. But I'm at least center left on racial and economic issues.

Ok youre Asian got it

the fuck kind of racist stereotyping is this?

this, i'm gonna keep asking till you say yes mentality is so weird. as a person who has had guys repeatedly message me despite me saying no for up to and in 2 cases OVER a year it's like do you think asking me more is making it more likely for me to say yes or are you now pissing me off? if you go to mcdonalds and they say they are out of fries are you gonna ask for fries 6 times till they are like oh haha ya fam we were just seeing how bad you really wanted them here ya go or are you gonna take what you can get or go to a different mcdonalds. further you set up a kind of shitty situation "hey i have your stuff feel free to come and get it you just have to sit through an emotionally draining 15 minute pitch on why you should continue to be in an unsatisfying ldr with 7 week gaps between seeing eachother" honestly dude let her get her shit set up the bedroom/couch for her and then leave her the hell alone for the duration of your stay unless she initiates something.

chocolatemuffin posted...

this, i'm gonna keep asking till you say yes mentality is so weird. as a person who has had guys repeatedly message me despite me saying no for up to and in 2 cases OVER a year it's like do you think asking me more is making it more likely for me to say yes or are you now pissing me off? if you go to mcdonalds and they say they are out of fries are you gonna ask for fries 6 times till they are like oh haha ya fam we were just seeing how bad you really wanted them here ya go or are you gonna take what you can get or go to a different mcdonalds. further you set up a kind of shitty situation "hey i have your stuff feel free to come and get it you just have to sit through an emotionally draining 15 minute pitch on why you should continue to be in an unsatisfying ldr with 7 week gaps between seeing eachother" honestly dude let her get her shit set up the bedroom/couch for her and then leave her the hell alone for the duration of your stay unless she initiates something.

I told her I just wanted to spend those two nights together and have a good time, and try to convince her one last time. I was explicit in telling her that I wouldn't make any further attempts after that.

I really don't see what the big deal is in asking that.

lmao TC is cringe personified

"I'm gonna text you once a week to ask to be with you until you get your stuff from my place. At that point, I'd like to make one less ditch effort to get you back"

I wouldnt have blamed her if she showed up with a police officer to get her stuff holy shit
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Is this your first relationship TC? I ask because the way you're approaching this seems like it. Your logic is pretty close to "This relationship didn't work out and it must be someone's fault, but it can't be mine because I'm a good person. Therefore, it must be her and she must be a bad person."

No one ever said this. I don't blame her for the relationship falling apart. It's in large part my fault.

I don't even blame her for seeing other people because we both know what the other was doing.

I'm just upset that I was upfront with the fact that I was willing to be her friend as she wanted, but i just wanted to spend this little bit of time with her for one last shot, which she could take or leave.

Throwing in your ex's face that you are seeing someone else only a little over a month after the breakup is going to be difficult regardless, but there was just no need to do it right before the last time I'd see her, and when she agreed she wanted to enjoy our little bit of time left together.

Now it's just going to be extremely awkward.

JustMyOpinion posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

JustMyOpinion posted...

Is this your first relationship TC? I ask because the way you're approaching this seems like it. Your logic is pretty close to "This relationship didn't work out and it must be someone's fault, but it can't be mine because I'm a good person. Therefore, it must be her and she must be a bad person."

No one ever said this. I don't blame her for the relationship falling apart. It's in large part my fault.

I don't even blame her for seeing other people because we both know what the other was doing.

I'm just upset that I was upfront with the fact that I was willing to be her friend as she wanted, but i just wanted to spend this little bit of time with her for one last shot, which she could take or leave.

Throwing in your ex's face that you are seeing someone else only a little over a month after the breakup is going to be difficult regardless, but there was just no need to do it right before the last time I'd see her, and when she agreed she wanted to enjoy our little bit of time left together.

Now it's just going to be extremely awkward.

She's only your friend if she agrees to give you another chance to date her? What? You both still could have enjoyed the time together as real friends as opposed to your fake "we're only friends if you give into my ridiculous demands" version.

Are you intentionally misreading my messages or are you just that obtuse?

I never said I would only be her friends if she gave me another chance. That makes no sense.

What I said was: "When you come to get your stuff I want to have fun in the little bit of time we have left. I want to take you out for dinner and drinks. I will try to convince you to come back to me, but I have no expectations that you will do that, and it is my pleasure to take you out, so you should not be upset about me spending money on you. If nothing changes for you, we can work on being friends, and after this I have no intention of pursuing you any further and will move on with my life"

She never said that this was a unacceptable or crazy to her. She was the one who brought up wanting to hang out and have sex. If she really did not want to hear me out, then she should have gotten a motel and kept her distance. I am not saying that she owes me the closure and finality that I was looking for. But she claims to still love me, cares about my feelings, and want me to be a close friend to her. I think a good friend would have given me the small thing I was asking.

We both had a clear understanding that we were both seeing other people, so it goes without mention that I'm probably not the only guy in her life. All I was asking that in between hanging out and fucking, that she listen to me for the less than two full days that we'll be together.

I really don't see why she had to bring up another guy, which would obviously make me pretty uncomfortable even if I wasn't trying to get her back.

if you're not trolling and you're being serious then i genuinely want you to look at the way your behaving and make a note that it is not healthy and will creep back up to cause problems in future relationships. it doesn't matter if she said she was fine with it 390 times then right when you go to open your mouth she changes her mind. if you were hitting on a girl at the bar and she said she has a boyfriend it means shes not interested. she just told you effectively the same thing. why would any pitch short of i just became the 10th richest man in the world convince this girl to stay in an admittedly terrible ldr in which your both having sex with other people. like what is there to hold onto dude? shes obviously not innocent in the matter and i personally think her telling you she has a boyfriend is her way of going oh shit he thinks we might get back together i probably led him on too much time to pump the breaks. do you want your final memories together that will cast a leaving impression on your relationship that you were a clingy guy that couldn't take a hint and kept trying to force you guys to get back together or do you want it to be a reflection of the good times as you both move forward with separate lives? you forcing this conversation is the difference between you being the sweet guy she dated for a minute or this creep that she should of ended things with ages ago.

"Just get over it bro and move on"

You guys make it getting over a 4 year relationship sound sooooooooo easy.
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chocolatemuffin posted...

if you're not trolling and you're being serious then i genuinely want you to look at the way your behaving and make a note that it is not healthy and will creep back up to cause problems in future relationships. it doesn't matter if she said she was fine with it 390 times then right when you go to open your mouth she changes her mind. if you were hitting on a girl at the bar and she said she has a boyfriend it means shes not interested. she just told you effectively the same thing. why would any pitch short of i just became the 10th richest man in the world convince this girl to stay in an admittedly terrible ldr in which your both having sex with other people. like what is there to hold onto dude? shes obviously not innocent in the matter and i personally think her telling you she has a boyfriend is her way of going oh shit he thinks we might get back together i probably led him on too much time to pump the breaks. do you want your final memories together that will cast a leaving impression on your relationship that you were a clingy guy that couldn't take a hint and kept trying to force you guys to get back together or do you want it to be a reflection of the good times as you both move forward with separate lives? you forcing this conversation is the difference between you being the sweet guy she dated for a minute or this creep that she should of ended things with ages ago.

She doesn't have a boyfriend though.

I would be more understanding, although still angry, if she did get a new boyfriend. But she didn't. She just randomly brings up this other guy just to say that they're seeing each other "but not seriously at all". So why even mention it it what I don't understand. She is not in an exclusive relationship, she does not have a commitment or a boyfriend. There is nothing wrong with hearing me out over dinner and drinks if she claims to care about me and wants to have a good time.

And no, I didn't think she would take me back at all. But you people act like this is just some girl I've been dating for a few months. We were together for four fucking years, and were talking about marriage and children up until our breakup early last month. And it's not like I'm the only one texting her. She has communicated with me a few times without any prompting to seek my advice about stuff and for emotional support. The way you people try to frame this as if I'm some stalker haunting her facebook is ridiculous lol. I may have reached out to her like 5 times, and she reached out to me like 3 lol.

I just don't see why I'm such a bad guy for wanting to have the opportunity to talk to someone who wanted to marry me not too long ago one last time before I never see her again.

First of all. TC if you are at a point where you have to have a last pitch in order to keep your relationship, then it is most likely not going to work. Lets ignore the fact that this was an open relationship for now (which only hurts your case). Especially if you told her youre going to give a last pitch, I 100% guarantee you she has made up her mind. You should have just been chill and when she came by thats when you could have simply showed her why being together would be good. But you screwed that up. Show, dont tell. I doubt this would have worked either, but it would have been a better attempt.

She probably told you about the dude so you can stop having ideas in your head about getting back together. It doesnt matter how serious she is with the guy.

And like others have said, you didnt give her a chance to miss you. Stop texting her. Let her think you are up to better things like bettering yourself (which you need to do and should be doing) and seeing other women. Even if you have been seeing other women you sound like a desperate cuck to her based on what you have posted. Youre almost at a stalker level.

Its natural to feel like you need to text her and check in with her and such, but it really isnt the best course of actions. I totally understand the feelings, but its just best not to act on them.

This relationship is toxic to you. Youve made way too many errors with your recent communications. There is literally no hope. The only where there is is if something drastic happens like you won the lottery and then she would want to work things out. Even then that would mean she is superficial and you shouldnt want that.

Im more concerned for your future. Whether you like it or not, shes going to be gone. Learn to accept that first. The next step is look at how you are acting right now. You are coming off very needy. Neediness is the biggest attraction killer. If you dont recognize that now, you are setting up yourself for more heartbreak later.

How do you feel about your neediness? That is the most important concern right now.
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JustMyOpinion posted...

And the "small thing" you asked for was another shot. And now she's not your friend because she didn't give you another shot. Which is exactly what I said.

Nope. The small thing I asked for was to hear me out over dinner and drink, and she could easily turn me down if nothing changed for her. I would still try to be her friend, even if she turned me down, which I made perfectly clear to her and told her I would have no hard feelings.

What she did was deny this small thing I was asking of her by throwing this other guy in my face whom she is supposedly not even seriously seeing at this point.

I honestly hope you're trolling.

Kazuma_Yagami posted...

First of all. TC if you are at a point where you have to have a last pitch in order to keep your relationship, then it is most likely not going to work. Lets ignore the fact that this was an open relationship for now (which only hurts your case). Especially if you told her youre going to give a last pitch, I 100% guarantee you she has made up her mind. You should have just been chill and when she came by thats when you could have simply showed her why being together would be good. But you screwed that up. Show, dont tell. I doubt this would have worked either, but it would have been a better attempt.

She probably told you about the dude so you can stop having ideas in your head about getting back together. It doesnt matter how serious she is with the guy.

And like others have said, you didnt give her a chance to miss you. Stop texting her. Let her think you are up to better things like bettering yourself (which you need to do and should be doing) and seeing other women. Even if you have been seeing other women you sound like a desperate cuck to her based on what you have posted. Youre almost at a stalker level.

Its natural to feel like you need to text her and check in with her and such, but it really isnt the best course of actions. I totally understand the feelings, but its just best not to act on them.

This relationship is toxic to you. Youve made way too many errors with your recent communications. There is literally no hope. The only where there is is if something drastic happens like you won the lottery and then she would want to work things out. Even then that would mean she is superficial and you shouldnt want that.

Im more concerned for your future. Whether you like it or not, shes going to be gone. Learn to accept that first. The next step is look at how you are acting right now. You are coming off very needy. Neediness is the biggest attraction killer. If you dont recognize that now, you are setting up yourself for more heartbreak later.

How do you feel about your neediness? That is the most important concern right now.

1) I didn't believe that it would really work in the first place.
2) Whether I should have been more distant is a valid point, but I'm not convinced it's the right one. You can easily make the counterargument that by giving her too much space when we're in a long distance relationship, she'll move on a lot more easily and forget about me. I myself had no intentions of pursuing her after this trip, so from my perspective there was simply too much time pressure to not contact her.

That may have been a strategic error, but I made my decision and I'm fine with it. You all constantly seem to gloss over the fact that she keeps occasionally texting me too, so much so that my buddies in real life express disbelief that she would do so so soon after a breakup.

3) You all also seem to gloss over how I keep repeating that I wasn't going to keep pursuing her long term. I'm not stalking this girl. We have had a distant and occasional correspondence over the last few weeks, where I've merely asked the question of how she's feeling. I'm not tearfully begging her to come back to me every week. She knows I'm seeing other women, and I know she's seeing other dudes too.

Sad_Face posted...

"Just get over it bro and move on"

You guys make it getting over a 4 year relationship sound sooooooooo easy.

I mean this is CE so very many of the dudes here are virgins or emotionally damaged, so I'm not surprised that they think this way.

KhanJohnny posted...

JustMyOpinion posted...

And the "small thing" you asked for was another shot. And now she's not your friend because she didn't give you another shot. Which is exactly what I said.

Nope. The small thing I asked for was to hear me out over dinner and drink, and she could easily turn me down if nothing changed for her. I would still try to be her friend, even if she turned me down, which I made perfectly clear to her and told her I would have no hard feelings.

What she did was deny this small thing I was asking of her by throwing this other guy in my face whom she is supposedly not even seriously seeing at this point.

I honestly hope you're trolling.

So hearing you out over dinner and drinks =\= giving you another shot? Im confused
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Just wanted to post in the ongoing saga of KhanJohnny.

I remember when you started the open relationship and she openly told you about the dudes she was having sex with. Like not just "yeah we had sex" it was full on "he did this awesome spin move and made me cum all over myself! "

She told you she was seeing someone because it was quicker than playing the Taylor Swift song "Weeeee (we) are never ever getting back together "

My advice is to get some more self respect and focus on a goal other than. Her.
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So like... what was your end game then honestly? Just to continue the status quo? The whole not great, long distance open relationship? I know four years is a long time to invest in someone, but that just doesn't seem like the kind of thing that was ever going to work out. Where's the incentive for either her or you to bridge the distance gap? Would it ever realistically have happened? That's something everyone that finds themselves in a long distance relationship should be asking themselves. Am I willing to uproot my life for this person?
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Sad_Face posted...

"Just get over it bro and move on"

You guys make it getting over a 4 year relationship sound sooooooooo easy.

Nobody said it would be easy but what other advice would you give him

Begging for her to come back clearly is not an option. He's gonna have to develop the tools to move on himself
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Deedice posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

JustMyOpinion posted...

And the "small thing" you asked for was another shot. And now she's not your friend because she didn't give you another shot. Which is exactly what I said.

Nope. The small thing I asked for was to hear me out over dinner and drink, and she could easily turn me down if nothing changed for her. I would still try to be her friend, even if she turned me down, which I made perfectly clear to her and told her I would have no hard feelings.

What she did was deny this small thing I was asking of her by throwing this other guy in my face whom she is supposedly not even seriously seeing at this point.

I honestly hope you're trolling.

So hearing you out over dinner and drinks =\= giving you another shot? Im confused

Her giving me another shot is saying yes, and allowing me to work my way back into her affection. Hearing me out can lead to giving me another shot, but no they aren't the same thing.

Again, the girl says she cares about me and doesn't want to hurt me. I expressed to her what I felt like I needed as we close the book on this relationship: I just wanted to treat her to a good time and express my feelings for her for the last time. We could continue our friendship, if she wasn't convinced. I told her I wasn't going to beg her, or do some big show of affection like I'm Jim from the Office.

I really don't think it's too much to ask from a person that claims to want to be your friend.

TC cant comprehend that a person can change their mind
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Fuck long distance relationships. I had 1 few years ago where her friend/cousin tags her in a post on FB on valentines with kissing someone that she deleted quickly but not fast enough for me to not seen pop up on my timeline. I cursed her out for wasting 8 months of my life.

About 1yr and 10mths later she randomly messages me beginning of December 2016 and I was willing to be on speaking terms at least. Since had a girlfriend at a time anyway that furthest I would go although planned to break up with her anyway (another bullshit back story to that relationship). After I ended it, she came clean to me she cheated on my and found she was pregnant before I saw the pic and broke contact with her but was scared to tell me since ain't wanna lose me. She stayed with guy and lost baby, then lost a second with him after another pregnancy. Who she cheated on me with treated her like shit and she said it was Karma for how she did me.

I end up giving her second chance and few weeks ago similar happens where I wake up to see she change status to being with somebody else. That's only 1 of a several last long distance relationship bs I've gone through.

She will try to come back when don't work out with new guy TC they always do. Hell the gf I broke up with 2016 tried getting in tough with me yesterday.
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PoopPotato posted...

Just wanted to post in the ongoing saga of KhanJohnny.

I remember when you started the open relationship and she openly told you about the dudes she was having sex with. Like not just "yeah we had sex" it was full on "he did this awesome spin move and made me cum all over myself! "

She told you she was seeing someone because it was quicker than playing the Taylor Swift song "Weeeee (we) are never ever getting back together "

My advice is to get some more self respect and focus on a goal other than. Her.

I was the one who asked for the open relationship, so making me feel bad about her hookups isn't going to work unfortunately.

Ultima Dragon posted...

So like... what was your end game then honestly? Just to continue the status quo? The whole not great, long distance open relationship? I know four years is a long time to invest in someone, but that just doesn't seem like the kind of thing that was ever going to work out. Where's the incentive for either her or you to bridge the distance gap? Would it ever realistically have happened? That's something everyone that finds themselves in a long distance relationship should be asking themselves. Am I willing to uproot my life for this person?

Well, she is actually was about to start applying to grad schools which were likely (though not certainly) going to bring us closer together. Depending on the school, she could have ended up in the same city as me, or maybe a train ride away, which is a lot more bearable and something we've dealt with before. Although there is a possibility that the status quo would have continued.

TC you are truly delusional and I hope you learn better.

Just get over it bro and move on is really valid advice at this point. It doesnt matter that it was a 4 year relationship, this is what you need to do. Yes, 4 years makes this easier said than done, but it is the best course of action. Dont try to discredit it by saying people are virgins or damaged. Theres plenty of virgins that would be smarter about this situation than you are.

And it was an open relationship. I can be more understanding if this was purely exclusive and now this is happening but come on bro. Once you guys settled on that you should have been expecting this.

And what really speaks to your trashy character is saying that you werent expecting anything or that you werent going to go long-term even if she was receptive. What kind of person wants to give a last pitch if not to make sure the relationship will last? Youre just trash tier human at that point and you are truly the scummy one.

If you just wanted one more sex fling then sure go for it. But stop being butt hurt. You have no place and if I was her I would get a hotel. I dont care about the money. Youre trash.
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KhanJohnny posted...

I was the one who asked for the open relationship, so making me feel bad about her hookups isn't going to work unfortunately.

Lol

Dude you're already doing a good enough job feeling bad about her hookups your damn self
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Twizz810 posted...

Fuck long distance relationships. I had 1 few years ago where her friend/cousin tags her in a post on FB on valentines with kissing someone that she deleted quickly but not fast enough for me to not seen pop up on my timeline. I cursed her out for wasting 8 months of my life.

About 1yr and 10mths later she randomly messages me beginning of December 2016 and I was willing to be on speaking terms at least. Since had a girlfriend at a time anyway that furthest I would go although planned to break up with her anyway (another bullshit back story to that relationship). After I ended it, she came clean to me she cheated on my and found she was pregnant before I saw the pic and broke contact with her but was scared to tell me since ain't wanna lose me. She stayed with guy and lost baby, then lost a second with him after another pregnancy. Who she cheated on me with treated her like shit and she said it was Karma for how she did me.

I end up giving her second chance and few weeks ago similar happens where I wake up to see she change status to being with somebody else. That's only 1 of a several last long distance relationship bs I've gone through.

She will try to come back when don't work out with new guy TC they always do. Hell the gf I broke up with 2016 tried getting in tough with me yesterday.

Well I'm not going to wait, which is what I told her. I tried to be upfront that I wanted to just talk to her this last time since I'll never see her again, and then we could both go our separate ways and remain texting buddies potentially.

But yeah, bro, I'm done with this long distance relationship nonsense after this. It just ain't worth it.

Fight_The_Power posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

I was the one who asked for the open relationship, so making me feel bad about her hookups isn't going to work unfortunately.

Lol

Dude you're already doing a good enough job feeling bad about her hookups your damn self

I don't feel bad that she's hooked up with people after our relationship ended.

It's like you people don't read.

Kazuma_Yagami posted...

TC you are truly delusional and I hope you learn better.

Just get over it bro and move on is really valid advice at this point. It doesnt matter that it was a 4 year relationship, this is what you need to do. Yes, 4 years makes this easier said than done, but it is the best course of action. Dont try to discredit it by saying people are virgins or damaged. Theres plenty of virgins that would be smarter about this situation than you are.

And it was an open relationship. I can be more understanding if this was purely exclusive and now this is happening but come on bro. Once you guys settled on that you should have been expecting this.

And what really speaks to your trashy character is saying that you werent expecting anything or that you werent going to go long-term even if she was receptive. What kind of person wants to give a last pitch if not to make sure the relationship will last? Youre just trash tier human at that point and you are truly the scummy one.

If you just wanted one more sex fling then sure go for it. But stop being butt hurt. You have no place and if I was her I would get a hotel. I dont care about the money. Youre trash.

Another person that can't read.

TC is going to write the next great Nicolas Sparks novel based on this story.
Cant wait for the movie adaptation where the girl is riding alone on a train, setting sun shining through her window as she gazes longingly across the open fields, a faint smile on her face. The camera pans out to reveal the journal of KhanJohnny in her lap. A small tear runs down her cheek as she realizes the life she could have had if only she had listened to his last pitch.
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KhanJohnny posted...

Deedice posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

JustMyOpinion posted...

And the "small thing" you asked for was another shot. And now she's not your friend because she didn't give you another shot. Which is exactly what I said.

Nope. The small thing I asked for was to hear me out over dinner and drink, and she could easily turn me down if nothing changed for her. I would still try to be her friend, even if she turned me down, which I made perfectly clear to her and told her I would have no hard feelings.

What she did was deny this small thing I was asking of her by throwing this other guy in my face whom she is supposedly not even seriously seeing at this point.

I honestly hope you're trolling.

So hearing you out over dinner and drinks =\= giving you another shot? Im confused

Her giving me another shot is saying yes, and allowing me to work my way back into her affection. Hearing me out can lead to giving me another shot, but no they aren't the same thing.

Again, the girl says she cares about me and doesn't want to hurt me. I expressed to her what I felt like I needed as we close the book on this relationship: I just wanted to treat her to a good time and express my feelings for her for the last time. We could continue our friendship, if she wasn't convinced. I told her I wasn't going to beg her, or do some big show of affection like I'm Jim from the Office.

I really don't think it's too much to ask from a person that claims to want to be your friend.

Lol.

PoopPotato posted...

TC is going to write the next great Nicolas Sparks novel based on this story.
Cant wait for the movie adaptation where the girl is riding alone on a train, setting sun shining through her window as she gazes longingly across the open fields, a faint smile on her face. The camera pans out to reveal the journal of KhanJohnny in her lap. A small tear runs down her cheek as she realizes the life she could have had if only she had listened to his last pitch.

I chuckled.

Right you don't feel bad at all, you're only acting like she completely shit on your feelings when you outright said you had no expectations lol
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Fight_The_Power posted...

Right you don't feel bad at all, you're only acting like she completely shit on your feelings when you outright said you had no expectations lol

I don't feel bad that she's hooking up with people. I'm seeing other women too.

I feel bad that she would throw a casual, noncomittal relationship in my face, as a reason for her not to hear me out for the last time I'll ever see her, and then acts surprised that I'm upset by that information.

KhanJohnny posted...

Kazuma_Yagami posted...

TC you are truly delusional and I hope you learn better.

Just get over it bro and move on is really valid advice at this point. It doesnt matter that it was a 4 year relationship, this is what you need to do. Yes, 4 years makes this easier said than done, but it is the best course of action. Dont try to discredit it by saying people are virgins or damaged. Theres plenty of virgins that would be smarter about this situation than you are.

And it was an open relationship. I can be more understanding if this was purely exclusive and now this is happening but come on bro. Once you guys settled on that you should have been expecting this.

And what really speaks to your trashy character is saying that you werent expecting anything or that you werent going to go long-term even if she was receptive. What kind of person wants to give a last pitch if not to make sure the relationship will last? Youre just trash tier human at that point and you are truly the scummy one.

If you just wanted one more sex fling then sure go for it. But stop being butt hurt. You have no place and if I was her I would get a hotel. I dont care about the money. Youre trash.

Another person that can't read.

Another desperate cuck. lol. I wasted 15 minutes of life on this topic. I guess you win TC. Enjoy being a delusional man
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Kazuma_Yagami posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Kazuma_Yagami posted...

TC you are truly delusional and I hope you learn better.

Just get over it bro and move on is really valid advice at this point. It doesnt matter that it was a 4 year relationship, this is what you need to do. Yes, 4 years makes this easier said than done, but it is the best course of action. Dont try to discredit it by saying people are virgins or damaged. Theres plenty of virgins that would be smarter about this situation than you are.

And it was an open relationship. I can be more understanding if this was purely exclusive and now this is happening but come on bro. Once you guys settled on that you should have been expecting this.

And what really speaks to your trashy character is saying that you werent expecting anything or that you werent going to go long-term even if she was receptive. What kind of person wants to give a last pitch if not to make sure the relationship will last? Youre just trash tier human at that point and you are truly the scummy one.

If you just wanted one more sex fling then sure go for it. But stop being butt hurt. You have no place and if I was her I would get a hotel. I dont care about the money. Youre trash.

Another person that can't read.

Another desperate cuck. lol. I wasted 15 minutes of life on this topic. I guess you win TC. Enjoy being a delusional man

I'm a cuck when I've hooked up with multiple women in the last few months, while you watch furry porn every night.

And guess what, you aren't obligated to "closure"

The fact that you think that is evidently a problem and shows that you have some growing up to do
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Successful troll topic dude. Good job.
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Fight_The_Power posted...

And guess what, you aren't obligated to "closure"

The fact that you think that is evidently a problem and shows that you have some growing up to do

So you don't see any dissonance between someone telling you they want to be your friend, and them proceeding to shit all over your feelings.

No she doesn't owe me closure. But an actual friend would try to help you get it.

KhanJohnny posted...

Fight_The_Power posted...

Right you don't feel bad at all, you're only acting like she completely shit on your feelings when you outright said you had no expectations lol

I don't feel bad that she's hooking up with people. I'm seeing other women too.

I feel bad that she would throw a casual, noncomittal relationship in my face, as a reason for her not to hear me out for the last time I'll ever see her, and then acts surprised that I'm upset by that information.

i think theres a pretty obvious reason why she did that, and tho many of the other people in this topic have been a bit more rude about trying to point that out to you; it means shes done dude.
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KhanJohnny posted...

Fight_The_Power posted...

And guess what, you aren't obligated to "closure"

The fact that you think that is evidently a problem and shows that you have some growing up to do

So you don't see any dissonance between someone telling you they want to be your friend, and them proceeding to shit all over your feelings.

No she doesn't owe me closure. But an actual friend would try to help you get it.

Your idea of "closure" boiled down to her giving you another chance and that's quite a lot to ask for from someone you consider a friend. She wanted no more of it, she wanted to move on. You aren't. That doesn't make her the shitty person. It makes you look manipulative as fuck
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Fight_The_Power posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Fight_The_Power posted...

And guess what, you aren't obligated to "closure"

The fact that you think that is evidently a problem and shows that you have some growing up to do

So you don't see any dissonance between someone telling you they want to be your friend, and them proceeding to shit all over your feelings.

No she doesn't owe me closure. But an actual friend would try to help you get it.

Your idea of "closure" boiled down to her giving you another chance and that's quite a lot to ask for from someone you consider a friend. She wanted no more of it, she wanted to move on. You aren't. That doesn't make her the shitty person. It makes you look manipulative as fuck

There is nothing manipulative about saying I want to take you out and talk to you for a bit. Obviously I want her to take me back, but I don't expect her to or hold any hard feelings if she doesn't which I made clear. It costs her absolutely nothing to listen to me express myself to her for a little while, and just rejecting it in the end, and making it amicable.

Also I didn't consider her a friend. She wanted friendship, I didn't.

>"I was pestering her"

>"I wanted to fuck her one more time"

>"I love the bitch"

TC seems like a winner <_<
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Lord_Wombat posted...

>"I was pestering her"

>"I wanted to fuck her one more time"

>"I love the bitch"

TC seems like a winner <_<

It was never my idea to fuck her one more time, although obviously I want to. She brought that up.

Like I said, it wasn't even on my radar. I wasn't literally pestering her either. I sent her a text like once a week and she responded, and we chatted about random things. I would check in on how she's feeling too obviously, but she never pushed me away or expressed anger at me asking. I made it clear I would only check in up until this visit anyway.

KhanJohnny posted...

Fight_The_Power posted...

KhanJohnny posted...

Fight_The_Power posted...

And guess what, you aren't obligated to "closure"

The fact that you think that is evidently a problem and shows that you have some growing up to do

So you don't see any dissonance between someone telling you they want to be your friend, and them proceeding to shit all over your feelings.

No she doesn't owe me closure. But an actual friend would try to help you get it.

Your idea of "closure" boiled down to her giving you another chance and that's quite a lot to ask for from someone you consider a friend. She wanted no more of it, she wanted to move on. You aren't. That doesn't make her the shitty person. It makes you look manipulative as fuck

There is nothing manipulative about saying I want to take you out and talk to you for a bit. Obviously I want her to take me back, but I don't expect her to or hold any hard feelings if she doesn't which I made clear. It costs her absolutely nothing to listen to me express myself to her for a little while, and just rejecting it in the end, and making it amicable.

Also I didn't consider her a friend. She wanted friendship, I didn't.

It does cost her something though. Time and emotional strain. When people are done with something, they're done. They outright avoid it because they don't want to continue getting wrapped up in conflicting feelings and emotions. You lack perspective and you think you're owed something. That's not her problem

You basically won't take "no, I don't think I can do this" for an answer. Do you not see how that comes off as manipulative
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If she wanted to outright avoid it, she should get a hotel