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Bio1590
08/20/18 11:45:17 PM
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https://www.wral.com/-silent-sam-is-down-protesters-topple-confederate-statue-on-unc-campus/17783175/

Protesters on Monday night toppled the controversial "Silent Sam" statue on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

More than 300 protesters first gathered at the Peace and Justice Plaza at about 7 p.m., before marching to the base of the statue, calling for its removal. By 9:30 p.m., the statue was on the ground and the crowd was cheering.

"Silent Sam" had been standing on the UNC campus since 1913.

Gov. Roy Cooper issued a statement Monday night, saying that he "understands that many people are frustrated by the pace of change and he shares their frustration, but violent destruction of public property has no place in our communities."

Protesters first sectioned off the area around the controversial statue with large banners, blocking it from view. Throughout the course of the evening, people in the crowd speculated about what might be going on behind the banners, but no one confessed to knowing the plan.

People chanted "stand up, fight back" and "hey, hey, ho, ho, this racist statue has got to go." Many also held signs.

WRAL's Candace Sweat said she saw a rope that was connected to something behind the banners, and that she heard a creak before the statue came down.

At one point, there were tense moments between protesters and police officers. Protesters deployed smoke canisters.

One person was arrested and charged with resisting arrest and for concealing one's face during a public rally.

Around 9 p.m., protesters left the base of "Silent Sam" and marched to Franklin Street, where they formed a large circle in the street, briefly blocking the intersection of Franklin and Columbia.

The march continued down Franklin Street and ended back at the base of "Silent Sam." Soon after, the Confederate statue came crashing down.

Once it was on the ground, protesters were shoveling dirt on top of it and stomping on it.

UNC issued a statement Monday night, calling the actions of the protesters "dangerous."

"Tonights actions were dangerous, and we are very fortunate that no one was injured. We are investigating the vandalism and assessing the full extent of the damage," the university said in a statement.

Police surrounded the statue once it was on the ground, but they made no further arrests.

As a precaution, authorities were patrolling the area around the Confederate statue on the State Capitol grounds in Raleigh.

Some of the people who were charged in connection with toppling a Confederate monument in Durham were at Monday's protest. One of those people was Raul Jimenez.

"I'm supporting all the students here today," he said. "As someone who was tried and found not guilty of taking down a statue in Durham, I am here to support them in taking down this statue."

First-year students Nora Dickson and Gretchen Mackie said the scene was tense and emotional.

A biology professor at UNC-Chapel Hill said she came out to the protest after she put her kids to bed.

"...all people deserve to be treated with dignity," she said.

The "Silent Sam" statue has been the site of protests for the past year, with students, faculty and alumni calling it a racist image and begging for officials to remove it.

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Bio1590
08/20/18 11:45:23 PM
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Here's the dedication speech btw:

http://hgreen.people.ua.edu/transcription-carr-speech.html



One hundred yards from where we stand, less than ninety days perhaps after my return from Appomattox, I horse-whipped a negro wench until her skirts hung in shreds, because upon the streets of this quiet village she had publicly insulted and maligned a Southern lady

The present generation, I am persuaded, scarcely takes note of what the Confederate soldier meant to the welfare of the Anglo Saxon race during the four years immediately succeeding the war, when the facts are, that their courage and steadfastness saved the very life of the Anglo Saxon race in the South When the bottom rail was on top all over the Southern states, and to-day, as a consequence the purest strain of the Anglo Saxon is to be found in the 13 Southern States Praise God.


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Doe
08/20/18 11:47:46 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
hey, hey, ho, ho,

Cringe
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Phantom_Nook
08/20/18 11:48:45 PM
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I don't really care, do u?
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Trigg3rH4ppy
08/20/18 11:52:19 PM
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I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.
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Bio1590
08/20/18 11:54:01 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.

Why are we putting monuments that are solely dedicated to white supremacism in museums
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BignutzisBack
08/20/18 11:55:14 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.

Why are we putting monuments that are solely dedicated to white supremacism in museums


Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes
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Bio1590
08/20/18 11:58:52 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.

Why are we putting monuments that are solely dedicated to white supremacism in museums


Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes

But why does that include monuments?

Like this literally isn't even a statue of a real person. It's just some bullshit they came up with decades after the war ended to assert their supposed superiority over black people.
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Funbazooka
08/21/18 12:00:27 AM
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They're vandals. Criminals.

Thugs.
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:00:58 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.

Why are we putting monuments that are solely dedicated to white supremacism in museums


Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes

But why does that include monuments?

Like this literally isn't even a statue of a real person. It's just some bullshit they came up with decades after the war ended to assert their supposed superiority over black people.


Oh yeah if it isn't even a real person who gives a s*** then I guess
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:02:03 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes

Do people learn from statues or from history books


lol at thinking you can only learn from one thing
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:03:46 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
lol at thinking you can only learn from one thing

what do people learn by looking at this statue


This isn't a real person so nothing, however you should look up what a museum is, they also have statues!
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FrisbeeDude
08/21/18 12:04:13 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Hairistotle posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes

Do people learn from statues or from history books


lol at thinking you can only learn from one thing


lmao at thinking that removal of racist landmarks will lead to repeats of the past
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:05:12 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Hairistotle posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes

Do people learn from statues or from history books


lol at thinking you can only learn from one thing


lmao at thinking that removal of racist landmarks will lead to repeats of the past


Weren't you just whining yesterday about Trump leading repeats of the past? Have some self-awareness my man
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:06:06 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Weren't you just whining yesterday about Trump leading repeats of the past? Have some self-awareness my man

wow good answer man


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Tyranthraxus
08/21/18 12:06:56 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes


"I think it wisest not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered."
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Freddie_Mercury
08/21/18 12:07:04 AM
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lilnutzisbald meltdown incoming
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:07:30 AM
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btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF
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Funbazooka
08/21/18 12:11:57 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF

Are you suggesting they should pave over this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Battlefield_Historic_District
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:12:11 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF


They also built a Nazi Museum in the party's former headquarters

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/
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Garioshi
08/21/18 12:14:14 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.

Why are we putting monuments that are solely dedicated to white supremacism in museums


Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes

Are statues how you learn history? I learn history though textbooks, funnily enough.
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:14:23 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF


They also built a Nazi Museum in the party's former headquarters

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/

Instead of displaying banners and uniforms, the museum focuses on personal artifacts and interactive exhibits.


HMMMMMM
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:15:45 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF


They also built a Nazi Museum in the party's former headquarters

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/

Instead of displaying banners and uniforms, the museum focuses on personal artifacts and interactive exhibits.


HMMMMMM


.....ok? What point are you trying to make lol
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:16:36 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF

Are you suggesting they should pave over this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Battlefield_Historic_District

That's not comparable at all lol, wtf.
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:17:14 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Are statues how you learn history? I learn history though textbooks, funnily enough


That's cool bro, I tend to broaden my horizons with museums as well but you can stick to a single source if that's what floats your boat.
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:18:06 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF


They also built a Nazi Museum in the party's former headquarters

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/

Instead of displaying banners and uniforms, the museum focuses on personal artifacts and interactive exhibits.


HMMMMMM


.....ok? What point are you trying to make lol

It's almost like they realize maintaining and displaying monuments to oppression is a stupid fucking idea.
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Tyranthraxus
08/21/18 12:19:31 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
It's almost like they realize maintaining and displaying monuments to oppression is a stupid fucking idea.

"I think it wisest not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered."
~ Robert E. Lee
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:20:56 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF


They also built a Nazi Museum in the party's former headquarters

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/

Instead of displaying banners and uniforms, the museum focuses on personal artifacts and interactive exhibits.


HMMMMMM


.....ok? What point are you trying to make lol

It's almost like they realize maintaining and displaying monuments to oppression is a stupid fucking idea.


LOL the museum is located in the Brown House aka the building the Nazis used as their headquarters aka.....a monument.

Jesus dude think before you post man
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Lord_Shadow
08/21/18 12:21:10 AM
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Silent Bob> Silent Sam on a more serious note if they wanted that the museum they should have put it there in the first place it's been there since 1913 they have had plenty of time to put it in a museum so now we move to the second option tearing the thing down.
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billcom6
08/21/18 12:22:19 AM
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good, fuck all confederate statues
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sktgamer_13dude
08/21/18 12:24:01 AM
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While I agree that stautues celebrating racist times should be taken down, they should be taken down through legal channels, not like this. Hopefully the people who did it get caught.
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TheBiggerWiggle
08/21/18 12:26:21 AM
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Fair, next. The university had a year since the last statute was pulled down by protesters. They had their opportunity to fix this but dragged their ass.
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:30:50 AM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
While I agree that stautues celebrating racist times should be taken down, they should be taken down through legal channels, not like this. Hopefully the people who did it get caught.

Everyone who was charged related to the one that was pulled down in Durham was either found not guilty or had all charges dropped.

https://www.wral.com/durham-da-drops-charges-in-confederate-monument-toppling-case/17357447/
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Paper_Okami
08/21/18 12:31:36 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
I mean it's always awesome to see Confederate statues go down, but fuck these assholes for the way they went about it. Expel every last one of them and make them pay to have the statue repaired and taken to a museum like it should have been in the first place.

Police should have used force to put a stop to this when the banners went up.

Why are we putting monuments that are solely dedicated to white supremacism in museums


Exactly, we should destroy all evidence of wrongdoing so future generations have nothing to go by while they make the same mistakes


what is a book?
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ultimate reaver
08/21/18 12:33:09 AM
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I don't give a shit, people have been complaining about that statue for more than half a century at this point. NC state legislature is the biggest collection of whinging useless idiots on the planet and their approach to 90% of controversy is to ignore it and pray it goes away.

The fact that it was meant to literally represent the heroic actions of the fucking confederacy to preserve the white race or whatever is just a cherry on top
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KhanJohnny
08/21/18 12:33:42 AM
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The Taliban thought the Buddhists statues it blew up were evil too
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:35:15 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
btw Germany literally demolished, paved over, and built apartments on the site of Hitler's bunker

https://imgur.com/g0TqcKF


They also built a Nazi Museum in the party's former headquarters

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/germany-just-opened-nazi-museum-180955154/

Instead of displaying banners and uniforms, the museum focuses on personal artifacts and interactive exhibits.


HMMMMMM


.....ok? What point are you trying to make lol

It's almost like they realize maintaining and displaying monuments to oppression is a stupid fucking idea.


LOL the museum is located in the Brown House aka the building the Nazis used as their headquarters aka.....a monument.

Jesus dude think before you post man

You...you do realize that the actual "Brown House" was basically destroyed near the end of the war...right? And then Germany tore the rest of it down?

The Museum is literally a completely new different building.
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:36:50 AM
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KhanJohnny posted...
The Taliban thought the Buddhists statues it blew up were evil too

Thank you for this irrelevant contribution.
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KhanJohnny
08/21/18 12:38:26 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
The Taliban thought the Buddhists statues it blew up were evil too

Thank you for this irrelevant contribution.

Damaging or destroying art is usually barbaric.
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Paper_Okami
08/21/18 12:41:32 AM
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KhanJohnny posted...
Bio1590 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
The Taliban thought the Buddhists statues it blew up were evil too

Thank you for this irrelevant contribution.

Damaging or destroying art is usually barbaric.


it's not art it's literally bullshit propaganda that was made to intimidate black people
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KhanJohnny
08/21/18 12:44:58 AM
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Paper_Okami posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Bio1590 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
The Taliban thought the Buddhists statues it blew up were evil too

Thank you for this irrelevant contribution.

Damaging or destroying art is usually barbaric.


it's not art it's literally bullshit propaganda that was made to intimidate black people

"It's not art, its literally a bullshit demon that is an offense against God."

It is too easy to dismiss the value of a past artistic work because it is offensive to modern sensitbilities, and to destroy the past in such a way is barbarism.
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BignutzisBack
08/21/18 12:46:34 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
You...you do realize that the actual "Brown House" was basically destroyed near the end of the war...right? And then Germany tore the rest of it down?

The Museum is literally a completely new different building.


-a building, structure, or site that is of historical importance or interest.

That is the definition of Monument my man, now read the third one listed so you actually understand the words you're using and don't end up making another post like

Bio1590 posted...

It's almost like they realize maintaining and displaying monuments to oppression is a stupid fucking idea

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ultimate reaver
08/21/18 12:47:11 AM
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Paper_Okami posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Bio1590 posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
The Taliban thought the Buddhists statues it blew up were evil too

Thank you for this irrelevant contribution.

Damaging or destroying art is usually barbaric.


it's not art it's literally bullshit propaganda that was made to intimidate black people


you are talking with the message board equivalent of a cartoon character. stop while you're behind
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Bio1590
08/21/18 12:56:11 AM
#50:


BignutzisBack posted...
Bio1590 posted...
You...you do realize that the actual "Brown House" was basically destroyed near the end of the war...right? And then Germany tore the rest of it down?

The Museum is literally a completely new different building.


-a building, structure, or site that is of historical importance or interest.

That is the definition of Monument my man, now read the third one listed so you actually understand the words you're using and don't end up making another post like

Bio1590 posted...

It's almost like they realize maintaining and displaying monuments to oppression is a stupid fucking idea

So are the apartments they built at the site of Hitler's bunker a monument to it? Because that's literally what you're arguing right now.
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