Current Events > I love looking at unused bulldozers on torn-up roads just because it's Saturday.

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PSA to states/cities/construction companies: Just because the work stops on weekends, doesn't mean the related inconveniences for literally everyone else stop as well.

Fucking garbage bullshit. Make a new god damn contract to bring in a second shift to get shit done on the fucking weekends instead of letting this shit linger for months on end. God forbid road construction is ever handled properly and conveniently and in a timely, efficient manner.
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it's not like hiring weekend staff is going to get rid of the inconvenience altogether

also didn't you make a topic about this already? someone did. it's not a terrible gimmick
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

it's not like hiring weekend staff is going to get rid of the inconvenience altogether

No but it'll get the projects done more quickly at a rate of two extra days' work per week. That's pretty significant.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

also didn't you make a topic about this already? someone did. it's not a terrible gimmick

I made a different topic bitching about road construction. Wouldn't say it's a gimmick, it's just extremely prevalent right now because summer in Minnesota is road construction hell

When I first moved here, people were like "ohh yaa we only get two seasons, wInTeR aNd CoNsTrUcTiOn SeAsOn." At first I thought it was silly but now it's like why the fuck are people saying that like it's a point of pride? Driving is a pretty important part of everyday life, you really think people want to be reminded that they live in a place where it's either slushy/snowy/icy on the roads or torn up to shreds?
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DoomsSD posted...

What is foosball guy 3s opinion on this?

He lives like 5 minutes from the office and somehow there is no construction between the office and his apartment so he doesn't care.
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The worst is when they put up barrels blocking a lane weeks before even starting construction.
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I was just stuck in a construction zone an hour ago. It's far worse when they're actually working since things move even slower.
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DoomsSD posted...

I think you should force him to care. Force him with your dick.

Even if I swung that way, he's not at all my type

AlleyViper620 posted...

The worst is when they put up barrels blocking a lane weeks before even starting construction.

Or when they block off eight miles of a lane in advance of a 1/10th of a mile patch of actual construction

Master_Bass posted...

I was just stuck in a construction zone an hour ago. It's far worse when they're actually working since things move even slower.

Sure but if they worked on weekends too then your zone wouldn't have been under construction anymore because it'd be done by now.
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DoomsSD posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

DoomsSD posted...

I think you should force him to care. Force him with your dick.

Even if I swung that way, he's not at all m-

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DoomsSD posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

DoomsSD posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

DoomsSD posted...

I think you should force him to care. Force him with your dick.

Even if I swung that way, he's not at all m-

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DoomsSD posted...

(`' z0zunW

(`' Muffinz0rz
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I was a witness to one of those big trucks trying to make a left turn off a beaten path to beat traffic and he ended up hitting a car who couldn't slow down in time. You better believe I stuck around as a witness. F***ing construction. I am starting to hate the color orange. There's so much of it and it's everywhere!
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SauI_Goodman posted...

I was a witness to one of those big trucks trying to make a left turn off a beaten path to beat traffic and he ended up hitting a car who couldn't slow down in time. You better believe I stuck around as a witness. F***ing construction. I am starting to hate the color orange. There's so much of it and it's everywhere!

You did the lord's work
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DoomsSD posted...

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('' Muffinz0rz
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DoomsSD posted...

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Construction is annoying. One time, I was walking and the sidewalks on both sides of the street were blocked off at the same time.
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Not entirely sure I see a dozer in that pic, but I get your point.
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SimpleMan posted...

Not entirely sure I see a dozer in that pic, but I get your point.

Actually there are three of them

(They may not be specifically bulldozers, but there are three large pieces of heavy machinery akin to bulldozers)
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It took them about 17 months for them to finish a turning lane in front of my work. It was an amazing display of PennDOT. Oh PennDOT, you so crazy.
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Lol now it's Sunday. Still nothing getting done~!
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If any of you nimnods had to deal with the logistical nightmare of road construction, you'd want the weekend off too.

Bunch of fucking weeaboos thinking they know better from their armchair.
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Tupacrulez posted...

If any of you nimnods had to deal with the logistical nightmare of road construction, you'd want the weekend off too.

Bunch of fucking weeaboos thinking they know better from their armchair.

https://www.babycenter.com/ims/2013/09/580x413x142580081_4x3.jpg.pagespeed.ic.kn6nTpYFmc.jpg

Should have went to school, son.
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JlM posted...

It took them about 17 months for them to finish a turning lane in front of my work. It was an amazing display of PennDOT. Oh PennDOT, you so crazy.

They sure love to take their time. It should be based on performance and meeting deadlines, not scratching your ass.
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SauI_Goodman posted...

Tupacrulez posted...

If any of you nimnods had to deal with the logistical nightmare of road construction, you'd want the weekend off too.

Bunch of fucking weeaboos thinking they know better from their armchair.

https://www.babycenter.com/ims/2013/09/580x413x142580081_4x3.jpg.pagespeed.ic.kn6nTpYFmc.jpg

Should have went to school, son.

I did. Try again Ree Ree.
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I went to Minnesota a few summers ago, and it was the most road construction I have ever seen.

kingjeremy posted...

I went to Minnesota a few summers ago, and it was the most road construction I have ever seen.

Come visit now, you'll be in for a treat

On-topic: I think school starts tomorrow. In the image in the OP, there's a school bus pickup spot on the right side of the road. Can't wait to see how much of a fucking mess it's going to be.

Tupacrulez posted...

If any of you nimnods had to deal with the logistical nightmare of road construction, you'd want the weekend off too.

Bunch of fucking weeaboos thinking they know better from their armchair.

So answer us then, why can't they bring in a second shift or something to get stuff done on weekends or outside 8-5? And I've already stated that I'd be fine with a few extra cents out of my paycheck if it meant getting the job done weeks earlier.

Or why they all think it's cool to spend so much time standing around and literally vaping every morning (which is what the crew outside my apartment has been doing when I leave for work every morning)
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LOL jesus christ, what a way to start the Monday; I roll out of my garage and one of the two roads out of the garage driveway (the one I normally take, which leads to the dirt road picture in the OP) is fucking barricaded with road closed signs, so I had to take the OTHER exit, which not only is in the exact opposite direction and features a HUGE, almost CURB-sized bump which requires coming to a complete stop, but also requires going to a light that takes fucking forever to change, and only is green long enough for about 3-4 cars.

What a fucking travesty
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Being that I work in construction, what is your preferred method for getting the job done? Would you prefer night work from 10PM to 4AM in a Residential area? Would you prefer weekend work starting at 6AM and costing what I'm assuming is a city project nearly double the cost because you want the crews to work on weekends? Even if a crew is NOT at 40 hours for the week all weekend work is double time and that's why you rarely see construction companies with crews going on weekends. The crew will do it, provided the owner is going to pay for it.

I see some RCP in that picture, looks like they'll be installing that soon enough, or would you prefer they don't install that, which is probably the entire reason for the work in the first place? Would you prefer if they just let the storm drain fail and flood out the entire area every time it rains? Or even if the job was to replace the asphalt and they decided that they better update their storm lines now while the road is milled down, would you prefer they let the road turn to complete shit and not ever fix and/or repair it?

I'll tell you what, go to the foreman tomorrow and give him your schedule and when it would be most convenient for you that they work. Let's see how well that goes. Better yet, write your councilman and tell him to increase the budget on the project so they can work nights and weekends.

Or....

Suck it up and leave 10 minutes early.
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So answer us then, why can't they bring in a second shift or something to get stuff done on weekends or outside 8-5? And I've already stated that I'd be fine with a few extra cents out of my paycheck if it meant getting the job done weeks earlier.

Or why they all think it's cool to spend so much time standing around and literally vaping every morning (which is what the crew outside my apartment has been doing when I leave for work every morning)

To answer your muddled shit in order:

Jobs are bid based on price. Most highways jobs are still bid out to private and public sector companies. The reason public sector unions still get the job is because they are cheaper. They are cheaper because they don't run dumbfuck amounts of OT. The other side is engineers don't work 24 hours a day, surveyors don't, and testers don't.

For a highway, you're looking at a ton of surveying and compaction tests. Those tests occur usually first thing in the morning, and if during the day, the site will have to completely shut down while those tests happen. If those tests fail, you are ripping up what you did the day before, potentially to pull a chunk of clay that was mixed in with the base by accident. That's all it takes.

Regarding standing around, every morning on bigger jobs, you are waiting, after your mandatory dumbfuck safety meeting, for the super to finish his piles of useless paperwork so that all bases are covered for work to proceed, and then he comes out and gets a crew of upwards of a dozen guys to start on continuing work.

You have no idea the logistical nightmare that this shit can be, all while fuckheads are speeding by swearing at you because you aren't working hard enough, and they need to get to their desk jockey job where they work for 10 minutes out of every hour.

Best part: the safety shit that slows everyone down so badly is 100% pushed by desk jockey shitheads who can't be bothered to do any real work.
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Jaded_Dragon posted...

Would you prefer night work from 10PM to 4AM in a Residential area?

I have a killer white noise machine and live up on a higher floor, noise and vibrations don't bother me.

Jaded_Dragon posted...

Would you prefer weekend work starting at 6AM and costing what I'm assuming is a city project nearly double the cost because you want the crews to work on weekends? Even if a crew is NOT at 40 hours for the week all weekend work is double time and that's why you rarely see construction companies with crews going on weekends. The crew will do it, provided the owner is going to pay for it.

Bring in a second shift so the overtime/double cost isn't a factor.

And again I've already said the extra cents from my paycheck are not a problem.

Jaded_Dragon posted...

I see some RCP in that picture, looks like they'll be installing that soon enough, or would you prefer they don't install that, which is probably the entire reason for the work in the first place? Would you prefer if they just let the storm drain fail and flood out the entire area every time it rains? Or even if the job was to replace the asphalt and they decided that they better update their storm lines now while the road is milled down, would you prefer they let the road turn to complete shit and not ever fix and/or repair it?

I'm not dense, I recognize the stuff has to get done. I have no problem with the fact that they have to do it. I have a problem with how long it takes to do it and how they can do it more efficiently.

Secondly, I'm actually pretty impressed with how some paving gets done seemingly overnight. I wake up and suddenly Highway 7 is smooth as silk. Like damn fam that's quite impressive.

Jaded_Dragon posted...

I'll tell you what, go to the foreman tomorrow and give him your schedule and when it would be most convenient for you that they work.

In my perfect world, I'd like them to work all the time.

Jaded_Dragon posted...

Suck it up and leave 10 minutes early.

Lol, as if ten minutes is enough to make up for the delays caused on the MSP highway system right now. Keep living in la-la fairy land and go back to standing around "on break" like the whole crew seems to be doing every time I drive by.

It's funny how you can't see it from our perspective, and yet, the construction undoubtedly affects you too because you have to drive there, thus having to leave earlier since your trip is delayed by construction as well. Isn't it in your best interest to finish up quickly as well?
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Tupacrulez posted...

So answer us then, why can't they bring in a second shift or something to get stuff done on weekends or outside 8-5? And I've already stated that I'd be fine with a few extra cents out of my paycheck if it meant getting the job done weeks earlier.

Or why they all think it's cool to spend so much time standing around and literally vaping every morning (which is what the crew outside my apartment has been doing when I leave for work every morning)

To answer your muddled shit in order:

Jobs are bid based on price. Most highways jobs are still bid out to private and public sector companies. The reason public sector unions still get the job is because they are cheaper. They are cheaper because they don't run dumbfuck amounts of OT. The other side is engineers don't work 24 hours a day, surveyors don't, and testers don't.

So the city is falling prey to buyer beware? Lol

You get what you pay for, I guess.

It's also funny how you rip desk jockeys for working 10 minutes of every hour, yet turn around and say the actual workers are standing around all the time because they're waiting on said desk jockeys
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SauI_Goodman posted...

I was a witness to one of those big trucks trying to make a left turn off a beaten path to beat traffic and he ended up hitting a car who couldn't slow down in time. You better believe I stuck around as a witness. F***ing construction. I am starting to hate the color orange. There's so much of it and it's everywhere!

Sorry about building the infrastructure that literally houses people, industry, and maintains transportation routes.

You could start campaigning for everyone to be homeless and jobless if you think it's be better.

Edit-lol tc actually made this topic a second time?
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road construction around here is actually pretty efficient from what I have observed *shrugs*
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Unused bulldozers because it's Saturday
Unused Foosball tables because TC is in the room.

Life is tough for the Muff.
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I've moved their orange barrels out of the way before. They can move that shit if there is no hazard and they aren't setting anything up or doing work.
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DevsBro posted...

Unused bulldozers because it's Saturday

AND sunday

DevsBro posted...

Unused Foosball tables because TC is in the room.

nah fam it's unused because Guys 2 and 4 are eating

DevsBro posted...

Life is tough for the Muff.

P4wn4g3 posted...

I've moved their orange barrels out of the way before. They can move that shit if there is no hazard and they aren't setting anything up or doing work.

Yeah how fucking stupid it is when it's sheer laziness

This morning on Highway 7, the right lane was blocked from a stoplight up to another stoplight. I thought okay they must be doing some work ahead; NOPE, LITERALLY NO WORK AT ALL GOING ON, NO CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT OR JACK SHIT
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Drive through the wilderness if you can't handle road construction son. I'm sure you'll get there on time.
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