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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 1:53:45 PM #1: |
https://phys.org/news/2018-08-scientists-mineral-co2-atmosphere.html
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GOOMFalse 08/15/18 1:57:23 PM #2: |
Noice
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Omnislasher 08/15/18 1:58:09 PM #3: |
If this can be developed to industrial scale
uh huh, the same glaring million dollar question that applies to every one of our existing technologies/theoretical plans for carbon capture it's still lunacy at this point to be banking on any of them to do what we need to be done ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 08/15/18 1:59:08 PM #4: |
Why not just send a bunch of trees into space?
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 2:01:07 PM #5: |
Omnislasher posted...
If this can be developed to industrial scale This and other solutions will be developed to industrial scale. It's simply a matter of time. I have zero doubt that it will happen. Just like adoption rates of solar and other renewables have greatly exceeded expectations from a decade ago, we'll see rapid development of these solutions. Especially if the government gives grants to the best contenders in the space to incentivize profit-seeking. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 08/15/18 2:01:28 PM #6: |
Omnislasher posted...
If this can be developed to industrial scale I'm still hopeful because I think scientists are much more likely to solve the problem than politicians are. And I don't want to think that the world is fucked just yet. --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna COMBINED! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/15/18 2:02:58 PM #7: |
we are replacing trees with rocks
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Giant_Aspirin 08/15/18 2:05:48 PM #8: |
pretty badass. hopefully it can be adopted on a large scale like Omnislasher said.
FLUFFYGERM posted... Especially if the government gives grants to the best contenders in the space to incentivize profit-seeking. isn't that a form of socialism? --- Playing: Yakuza Kiwami; Vermintide 2; Dead Cells (~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 08/15/18 2:05:51 PM #9: |
If it can be done at an effective scale, it could prove to be a fantastic temporary solution to the issue. But, as always, it's important to keep expectations in check while research continues.
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 2:09:51 PM #10: |
There are already start-ups that are investing money into carbon recapture & storage products/services, so I'm optimistic.
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Foppe 08/15/18 2:10:47 PM #11: |
The Climeworks CO2 Capture Plants is available to buy today.
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/15/18 2:12:44 PM #12: |
Let's actually invent and have this mineral actually doing what you're claiming it can do before we defund all of our alternative energy groups.... Not the other way around.
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P4wn4g3 08/15/18 2:13:20 PM #13: |
Hey proudclad, what happened to pretending climate change is fake?
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frozenshock 08/15/18 2:13:40 PM #14: |
Well, if this works, then it's going to solve a shitload of problems.
Not just for global warming, but also for public health. Breathing all that CO2 in the cities isn't good. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 2:15:17 PM #15: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
Let's actually invent and have this mineral actually doing what you're claiming it can do before we defund all of our alternative energy groups.... Not the other way around. where did I say anything about defunding alternative energy groups? P4wn4g3 posted... Hey proudclad, what happened to pretending climate change is fake? Stop making up shit, I don't say climate change is fake. Don't be ass-ravaged just because you got spanked in that other topic lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 08/15/18 2:16:03 PM #16: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Giant_Aspirin taking taxpayer money (money from the people) and spending it on things that benefit everyone via research sounds socialist to me. what are your thoughts? edit: grants/etc are basically taking taxes and spending them to benefit "the greater good". --- Playing: Yakuza Kiwami; Vermintide 2; Dead Cells (~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 2:19:18 PM #17: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Giant_Aspirin TIL - SpaceX is socialism --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/15/18 2:19:37 PM #18: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...Let's actually invent and have this mineral actually doing what you're claiming it can do before we defund all of our alternative energy groups.... Not the other way around. Oh don't worry you don't have to advocate for Trump about it. He's already on top of it. By slashing their funding https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/trump-again-seeks-to-slash-funding-for-clean-energy-in-2019-budget.html By over 72%..... --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBANN_88 08/15/18 2:19:44 PM #19: |
that sounds great if it can be realised, but i'm curious if there's any other kind of pollution in the production and/or disposal processes first.
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darkphoenix181 08/15/18 2:20:07 PM #20: |
So the big question, should these scientists be allowed royalties and be able to get rich from something that will save the planet and likely be forced on developing nations?
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/15/18 2:22:34 PM #21: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
So the big question, should these scientists be allowed royalties and be able to get rich from something that will save the planet and likely be forced on developing nations? Let's actually focus on being able to save the planet first. You're getting way ahead of yourself. And if this is accomplished by a federal agency then no they don't get anything other than their yearly pay raise. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 2:23:47 PM #22: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Cosmic_Diabetic posted...Let's actually invent and have this mineral actually doing what you're claiming it can do before we defund all of our alternative energy groups.... Not the other way around. and hopefully Congress blocks the orange turd again ROBANN_88 posted... that sounds great if it can be realised, but i'm curious if there's any other kind of pollution in the production and/or disposal processes first. almost definitely, but what matters is if the net carbon recapture outweighs the pollution, because then we can use it temporarily as a way to eliminate global warming as a threat while we move towards more nuclear reactors / solar panels / etc darkphoenix181 posted... So the big question, should these scientists be allowed royalties and be able to get rich from something that will save the planet and likely be forced on developing nations? i mean that's way too simplistic a question. these scientists will probably be picked up by various companies looking to leverage their expertise in industry. and they'll get paid for it. and in the case of those who prefer academia, don't they make money from publishing? and don't they get paid for their work in the lab by the grants they win? --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 2:24:07 PM #23: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...So the big question, should these scientists be allowed royalties and be able to get rich from something that will save the planet and likely be forced on developing nations? and nice fat pensions that non-state employees don't get --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 08/15/18 2:24:36 PM #24: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
and in the case of those who prefer academia, don't they make money from publishing? lol --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArliePocket 08/15/18 2:24:41 PM #25: |
This is just pointless. Realistically the mineral won't stop global warming and even if it does, certain companies will try to block it because it'd run them out of business.
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Dragonblade01 08/15/18 2:25:19 PM #26: |
ROBANN_88 posted...
that sounds great if it can be realised, but i'm curious if there's any other kind of pollution in the production and/or disposal processes first. There's also the question of storage for this CO2-filled mineral. Still, those questions can be answered later. I'd much rather the scientists focus on the process itself at the moment. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omnislasher 08/15/18 2:28:11 PM #27: |
This and other solutions will be developed to industrial scale.
uh. citation needed? It's simply a matter of time. ah. too bad we have exactly none of that left. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cosmic_Diabetic 08/15/18 2:29:45 PM #28: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...darkphoenix181 posted...So the big question, should these scientists be allowed royalties and be able to get rich from something that will save the planet and likely be forced on developing nations? Hey private companies are free to deny you any form of pension or post job care packages. Isn't capitalism just dandy?! --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 08/15/18 2:30:45 PM #29: |
This doesn't need to be another capitalism vs socialism topic, people.
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Zeeak4444 08/15/18 2:33:44 PM #30: |
COVxy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...and in the case of those who prefer academia, don't they make money from publishing? --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 2:35:39 PM #31: |
Meh. No reason to get excited about stuff like this until it's actually proven and implemented.
Too much click bait, pop-science and science-ism lately. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 08/15/18 2:36:06 PM #32: |
A far more interesting proposal:
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-may-have-discovered-how-to-make-alcohol-out-of-thin-air Or, you know, just legalize weed. Hemp excels at converting carbon dioxide into useful plant fiber, and not all of it is burned again for amusement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 08/15/18 2:45:07 PM #33: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Giant_Aspirin thanks for that riveting response that thoroughly addressed the questions i presented to you. --- Playing: Yakuza Kiwami; Vermintide 2; Dead Cells (~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 08/15/18 3:05:34 PM #34: |
Remember when hydrogen fuel cells were the future?
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/15/18 3:08:49 PM #35: |
I like the idea of large scale marijuana production but that'd never make a dent.
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Questionmarktarius 08/15/18 3:12:20 PM #36: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I like the idea of large scale marijuana production but that'd never make a dent. The only real solution is to go back in time to about 1750, and prevent the industrial revolution somehow. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 08/15/18 3:12:27 PM #37: |
Removing CO2 is not a good thing... since our CO2 levels have rose, our forests are growing more and more.
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 3:13:35 PM #38: |
Omnislasher posted...
This and other solutions will be developed to industrial scale. Also I recommend the book Enlightenment Now and would pay for your copy if you promise to read it. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omnislasher 08/15/18 3:14:52 PM #39: |
MaverickXeo posted...
Removing CO2 is not a good thing... since our CO2 levels have rose, our forests are growing more and more. *risen and this is an insane person, everyone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/15/18 3:16:26 PM #40: |
Why is planting trees not seen as viable?
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Questionmarktarius 08/15/18 3:17:07 PM #41: |
Omnislasher posted...
MaverickXeo posted...Removing CO2 is not a good thing... since our CO2 levels have rose, our forests are growing more and more. It's plausible, but to really get the most out rising CO2 and approach a useful equilibrium, you'd need a plant that grows much faster than trees, multiplies quicker, and is just plain better at photosynthesis. ...like, say, hemp. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 3:17:54 PM #42: |
darkjedilink posted...
Why is planting trees not seen as viable? it's definitely effective, just not as effective as we'd need it to be. more trees, more seawood, carbon sequestration, and more renewables all need to be implemented at the same time. along with reduction in emissions which would be a side effect of going all out on renewables. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omnislasher 08/15/18 3:20:30 PM #43: |
you seriously referring me to al gore? i read and listen to actual scientists. familiar with many of them. you must be joking.
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 3:21:53 PM #44: |
Omnislasher is a perfect example of what it looks like when someone doesn't want climate change to be fixed because it would upend their ulterior political motivations if it was no longer a threat.
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Questionmarktarius 08/15/18 3:24:17 PM #45: |
darkjedilink posted...
Why is planting trees not seen as viable? Trees are big and slow-growing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 08/15/18 3:25:05 PM #46: |
I think there is also a question of arable land and amount of water
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EndOfDiscOne 08/15/18 3:27:16 PM #47: |
Let's laugh at the scientists who know nothing about climate change and are wasting time with this
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FLUFFYGERM 08/15/18 3:27:38 PM #48: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
I think there is also a question of arable land and amount of water That's not a problem. We used to need way more land and water to grow crops than now. But because of advancements in GMOs, irrigation, and agricultural techniques we've substantially increased yield while reducing land & water requirements. Enlightenment Now by Steven Pinker goes into specific details. It's an impressive achievement. Before, we'd have needed a land mass the size of America and all of Russia to produce as much food as we produce now. Yet we substantially reduced the amount of land required. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 08/15/18 3:30:24 PM #49: |
The important thing to note, as has been mentioned, is that we won't rely on a single solution. Rather, we use multiple options to contribute to the overall goal. That's where success will lie.
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MaverickXeo 08/15/18 4:17:11 PM #50: |
Omnislasher posted...
MaverickXeo posted...Removing CO2 is not a good thing... since our CO2 levels have rose, our forests are growing more and more. Tons of articles and research papers show this. --- --- MaverickXeo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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