Board 8 > Sir Chris Music Mafia Topic 11: All Star

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4. ColZach
7. Mzero11
8. Sheep007
10. ChaosTonyV4
11. turbopuns2
13. Forceful_Dragon
14. DoubleTangicide
16. HanOfTheNekos
17. Crescent-Moon
19. ScareChan
20. Benjamin3740
21. htaeD (Death)

[LD1] - Alakazam, MAFIA Vanilla
[KN1] - Masterplum, Role Unknown
[LD2] - Leo, MAFIA Detective
[KN2] - Corrik, TOWN Bodyguard
[LD3] - IfGodCouldDie, TOWN Vanilla
[KN3] - Panthera, TOWN Jack of All Trades
[KN3] - Eaed, TOWN Jailkeeper
[LD4] - Edumey, MAFIA Roleblocker
[KN4] - Sultan, TOWN Elite Bodyguard
[KN4] - red13n, MAFIA Unscannable

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends 10:00 PM EDT Thursday. Go!
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Also:

##Vote: Scare

Damn, I really thought you were town this game. You played good though, man.

Clutch save by Sultan. Im sorry I ever doubted you <3

And I CALLED IT that it was red. Glad we got that squared away

Ben looks worse off for his fun lynch vote now
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Votals (Last vote #2)

[4] - Scare - Sheep, FD, Zach, Tange

with 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends 10:00 PM EDT Thursday.
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Also, 9-1 town lead going in to tomorrow? Excellent. Just gotta play it smart and we should have this in the bag
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@Dark_Young_Link could I please get yesterdays votals since they were not provided?
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You will know I'm town when I die tange

Your game seems better too so keep it up. You and Tony both showing improved skill this game
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I appreciate that, but I entirely disagree lol

I think Ive been garbage this game
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I want you to be town, but theres no evidence in your favor.

We proved yesterday that Sheeps scans are good (as in he isnt lying or isnt insane)*

We also have zero reason to believe there is a framer at this time.

*barring a CRAZY scum gambit by sheep, which I dont see happening here
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DoubleTangicide posted...

@Dark_Young_Link could I please get yesterdays votals since they were not provided?

If I'm not mistaken, yesterday's votals should have looked like this....

[8] - Dumey - Sheep, Ben, Death, Tange, Sultan, Han, Scare, Red
[2] - Sultan - Puns, Dumey
[1] - Red - (Ben), Scare
[0] - Ben - (Tange)
[0] - Death - (Tony)
[0] - Sheep - (Dumey)
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Thank you!!
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tag
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[8] - Dumey - Sheep, Ben, Death, Tange, Sultan, Han, Scare, Red
[2] - Sultan - Puns, Dumey

Bold: Confirmed and/or scanned scum

Italic: 100% Confirmed town

Those last two votes at EoD are very telling, considering we know they are scum or have been scanned guilty.

It makes Puns and to a much lesser extent Han look bad.

Puns because he finished the day on confirmed town and Han because he was one of the later ones to end up on the Dumey lynch
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Dark Young Link posted...

DoubleTangicide posted...

@Dark_Young_Link could I please get yesterdays votals since they were not provided?

If I'm not mistaken, yesterday's votals should have looked like this....

[8] - Dumey - Sheep, Ben, Death, Tange, Sultan, Han, Scare, Red
[2] - Sultan - Puns, Dumey
[1] - Red - (Ben), Scare
[0] - Ben - (Tange)
[0] - Death - (Tony)
[0] - Sheep - (Dumey)

Scare is double voter? :O
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Makes ben look unfortunately better to me, since he was one of the first to follow sheep and stayed there
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Hey Mzero
Care to explain where your vote was yesterday?
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Actually, there are a LOT of people that should answer that question as well
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Oh also

Now that the game is at an even number again, if it for some reason gets that far, is it better to test the target bomb claim the day before lylo instead of at lylo?

I seem to remember someone freaking out about "bombproof" scum earlier.

MZero11 posted...

I'd rather not end day early because I'm kind of busy for the next couple days

My wishes were ignored, however :(

I would have voted Dumey tho
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The day ended while I was napping. That's what happened to my vote, mainly.

DoubleTangicide posted...

Makes ben look unfortunately better to me, since he was one of the first to follow sheep and stayed there

Why is that unfortunate? I agree he's been starting to look better.

I dont see any reason to test before we have to
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Its unfortunate because I had been much more convinced he was scum and him looking good complicates that thought
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Im going to bed now though
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DoubleTangicide posted...

Makes ben look unfortunately better to me, since he was one of the first to follow sheep and stayed there

Hah. Tange is town
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DoubleTangicide posted...

I dont see any reason to test before we have to

Pretty sure it now changes nothing to do it a day early, but I mainly said that for the person freaking out about bombproof

And I don't remember who it was

DoubleTangicide posted...

[8] - Dumey - Sheep, Ben, Death, Tange, Sultan, Han, Scare, Red
[2] - Sultan - Puns, Dumey

Bold: Confirmed and/or scanned scum

Italic: 100% Confirmed town

Those last two votes at EoD are very telling, considering we know they are scum or have been scanned guilty.

It makes Puns and to a much lesser extent Han look bad.

Puns because he finished the day on confirmed town and Han because he was one of the later ones to end up on the Dumey lynch

I dont think votes yesterday matter toooo much. Yesterday basically everyone agreed that Sheep was probably legit and Dumey needed to be lynched to test that. Like today for example, I'm not bothering to vote Scare because if every town voted him he'd just get hammered. My vote feels unneeded. But it is interesting that Dumey was hammered by scum
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Ohey thanks for not ending the day yet.

Man that was a nice flip to see, that roleblocker.

Even nicer to see red die to sultan. Scum should have just shot sultan directly and deal with the scans.

And I could have known Scare was scum, for the way he tried to talk us out of lynching EDumey.
Crescent seemed tempted by that too, I remember.

Also I doubt Mzero or Tange are scum, now that we've seen a scum unscannable flip.
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Or am I thinking about someone other than Crescent? Hmm.
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Scare "tried" to scumhammer Red the previous day

Leo tried to scuhammer Panthera. Wasn't Scare the one who did hamner?

Scum has been aggressive in trying to lower our content through hammers.

I wee less tempted after Dumey's bad vote on Sultan.

And I seem to recall *you* agreeing with me for a while to lynch Red or Sultan first.

Nope, that was me. It was also you.

Then scum hammered him while I was napping.

No.
I agreed to no such thing, ever.

Btw, if Scare doesnt flip something that could be a janitor. Then Mzero is town obviously.
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But yes, multiple people seemed to question the logic I used on Dumey, but its 2/2 and about to be 3/3.

Because, by the way, Scare (especially the past two hours) is doing almost the same thing Leo did most of the time. He's just taking passive jabs and that's really all.

If he were town about to be mislynched, where's the fire? A scar doesn't stop you from thinking.

Scare didn't even bother to comment when puns and I were ripping into each other. Conversely, Ben had a lot to say.

Wait wtf am I reading from Crescent that she nailed Scare?

Then the implication that you were equal to Puns on Leo? I always slant scum on Puns because of petty bias (<3) and nowhere in the petty-est corners of my heart could I dig up anything but a Town read on the way he straight up crushed Leos spirit.

Is this final scum desperation or pure delusion??
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htaeD posted...

No.
I agreed to no such thing, ever.

Btw, if Scare doesnt flip something that could be a janitor. Then Mzero is town obviously.

Nor did I, but you suggested it almost as much a I did. The overall suggestion an reason into why I started prodding Dumey.

His reactions did not feel like town and that was that, really.

How did I put this in topic 10?

I have no idea why scum sent their unscannable to kill someone either.

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I dont think anyone is taking Scare for town anymore.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Wait wtf am I reading from Crescent that she nailed Scare?

Then the implication that you were equal to Puns on Leo? I always slant scum on Puns because of petty bias (<3) and nowhere in the petty-est corners of my heart could I dig up anything but a Town read on the way he straight up crushed Leos spirit.

Is this final scum desperation or pure delusion??

While everyone was treating Scare as confirmed town fir no reason, I'm the one who dragged him into the light.

There is 0 chance Scare is getting lynched today or anytime in the near futrue without me forcing him back into the public eye.

And you're only reacting like this because you personally dislike me. Its childish. You've been accusing me of not growing up all game, but you need to look in a mirror.

Crescent-Moon posted...

htaeD posted...

No.
I agreed to no such thing, ever.

Btw, if Scare doesnt flip something that could be a janitor. Then Mzero is town obviously.

Nor did I, but you suggested it almost as much a I did. The overall suggestion an reason into why I started prodding Dumey.

His reactions did not feel like town and that was that, really.

I didnt suggest it either. I pointed out how impossible it would be to hit the scumRB. I may have tried to weigh the odds, but I dont think I ever said to not lynch EDumey.
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htaeD posted...

I dont think anyone is taking Scare for town anymore.

Sheep only scanned him because I drew attention to him.

Because no one as paying him any attention whatsoever. So yes, I am claiming direct responsibility for this lynch, a lynch I would never have pushed in any way as scum.

I said it before, it is frankly insulting to me to accuse me of such abed scum play.

Crescent, dont turn this into something personal please.
Its only natural that the remaining unscanneds get scrutinized (That includes me I know).
And bragging doesnt always make for a good look.

I'll have to look back a day to see for myself. I recall people also bringing up reasons why sheep could be scum, or why Leo could have been trying to claim cop.
That also could be desperation on scums part to save their RB.
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I did say, with Panths flip, there was no reason to assume Scare as town.
Though I did add that I couldnt see Scare doing something so weird as scum, so you have a point there.
But werent there other players who yelled at Scare too, yesterday?
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htaeD posted...

How did I put this in topic 10?

I have no idea why scum sent their unscannable to kill someone either.

And to take that a step further, why was the unscanneable visible to the watcher? Does that not count as a proper scan?

And if red had been proper scanned would it have returned a result of 'innocent' or of 'failed'?

He claimed vanilla so im inclined to believe the former otherwise he would have had to pivot his claim to match a failed result? Im having trouble wrapping my head around the logic behind the actions.

This is a red/leo scum team so there is clearly some experience behind them. I have to imagine that there was thought put into these actions and some kind of plan that represented a viable path to victory. Is there some simple piece to this puzzle that would cause these actions to make sense from a different perspective?
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Maybe unscannable is just a more limited untargetable?
But yeah Tony's claim doesnt jive with that.
Still, Tony will get resolved tonight.
If he is scum, he is forced to tell us who killed sheep and if he fails to give us sheeps killer, we kill him.

Not that I am worried about Tony.
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Not to say much, but Leo wasnt the most 'leaderly' on our scumboard in Blade Mafia. I think red would be the bigger voice.
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Im not sure why unscannable would mean I couldnt see him. Thats a ninja.

Like, did you guys miss the part where my target was Sheep?
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Actually lets play this another way.

In this scenario, Scare is the only scum that has any endgame potential at all. Red's good as dead and no matter what I do I'm dead by like, day 7. Scare is coasting basically unnoticed.

Explain to me my motive, as scum, to severely ruin the "town confirmed" credibility of the one person left on my team that could win the game for me, because there isn't any chance I see endgame myself.

Please explain to me how that isn't the worst scum play I could possibly commit if you want to accuse me of being scum for being right on Scare.

Its asinine that I'm somehow being suspected by multiple people specifically for this, and its making me mad. There are good reasons to suspect me, this might be the worst reason I've ever been suspected for in any game I've ever played.

htaeD posted...

Crescent, dont turn this into something personal please.
Its only natural that the remaining unscanneds get scrutinized (That includes me I know).
And bragging doesnt always make for a good look.

I'll have to look back a day to see for myself. I recall people also bringing up reasons why sheep could be scum, or why Leo could have been trying to claim cop.
That also could be desperation on scums part to save their RB.

No one was even looking at Scare until I pointed out his contradiction and got mad that no one cared.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

htaeD posted...

How did I put this in topic 10?

I have no idea why scum sent their unscannable to kill someone either.

And to take that a step further, why was the unscanneable visible to the watcher? Does that not count as a proper scan?

And if red had been proper scanned would it have returned a result of 'innocent' or of 'failed'?

He claimed vanilla so im inclined to believe the former otherwise he would have had to pivot his claim to match a failed result? Im having trouble wrapping my head around the logic behind the actions.

This is a red/leo scum team so there is clearly some experience behind them. I have to imagine that there was thought put into these actions and some kind of plan that represented a viable path to victory. Is there some simple piece to this puzzle that would cause these actions to make sense from a different perspective?

I would assume he was only unscanable to direct scans. Being watched visiting sheep was not the result of Red being scanned personally.

That's my guess, anyway.

Town feels too strong with 6 scum in 22 with a vanilla though. I was wondering last night if scum has a pretty powerful role we haven't seen yet.

(The problem in that case would be, what kind of role could that even be at this point?)