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darkjedilink 08/11/18 2:45:44 PM #52:	metralo posted... JuanCarlos1 posted... Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me. People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906696425] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote> Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins.</quote> this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me.</quote> People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/11/18 2:48:37 PM #53:	darkjedilink posted... metralo posted... JuanCarlos1 posted... Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me. People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? They did? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:906696555] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote> Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins.</quote> this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me.</quote> People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> They did?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaliesto 08/11/18 2:53:24 PM #54:	I'm sure @SBAllen wouldn't allow the same garbage to be posted here either, GFAQs forums is also a social media platform much like Twitter, and Facebook. Would some of you political nutjobs be mad at him too? --- It's not stupidity, it's something much worse. It's... the GameSpot comment section!-Stebsis Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum <cite>Kaliesto posted [p:906696799] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure @SBAllen wouldn't allow the same garbage to be posted here either, GFAQs forums is also a social media platform much like Twitter, and Facebook. Would some of you political nutjobs be mad at him too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/11/18 2:53:57 PM #55:	Damn_Underscore posted... - It's hypocritical. Liberals tend to think ISPs should be obligated to follow Net Neutrality is based on the principle of freedom of speech. Also the only reason they are OK with say Alex Jones discussion being banned is that they disagree with/don't like Alex Jones. You know, this is an interesting point. Liberals do think that the internet in 2018 is a fundamental part of our infrastructure, like water, roads, electricity, etc. Well, something like that at least. The way I read your point here is that liberals should classify social media in the same way. You're not really making a convincing argument here, though, but your line of reasoning opens up for the possibility of hypocrisy on the other side as well - if you think Alex Jones should be entitled to a platform on Facebook, shouldn't you similarly favor net neutrality? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:906696830] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>- It's hypocritical. Liberals tend to think ISPs should be obligated to follow Net Neutrality is based on the principle of freedom of speech. Also the only reason they are OK with say Alex Jones discussion being banned is that they disagree with/don't like Alex Jones. </quote> You know, this is an interesting point. Liberals do think that the internet in 2018 is a fundamental part of our infrastructure, like water, roads, electricity, etc. Well, something like that at least. The way I read your point here is that liberals should classify social media in the same way. You're not really making a convincing argument here, though, but your line of reasoning opens up for the possibility of hypocrisy on the other side as well - if you think Alex Jones should be entitled to a platform on Facebook, shouldn't you similarly favor net neutrality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 08/11/18 2:55:05 PM #56:	scar the 1 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... - It's hypocritical. Liberals tend to think ISPs should be obligated to follow Net Neutrality is based on the principle of freedom of speech. Also the only reason they are OK with say Alex Jones discussion being banned is that they disagree with/don't like Alex Jones. You know, this is an interesting point. Liberals do think that the internet in 2018 is a fundamental part of our infrastructure, like water, roads, electricity, etc. Well, something like that at least. The way I read your point here is that liberals should classify social media in the same way. You're not really making a convincing argument here, though, but your line of reasoning opens up for the possibility of hypocrisy on the other side as well - if you think Alex Jones should be entitled to a platform on Facebook, shouldn't you similarly favor net neutrality? This guy logics. --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:906696889] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>- It's hypocritical. Liberals tend to think ISPs should be obligated to follow Net Neutrality is based on the principle of freedom of speech. Also the only reason they are OK with say Alex Jones discussion being banned is that they disagree with/don't like Alex Jones. </quote> You know, this is an interesting point. Liberals do think that the internet in 2018 is a fundamental part of our infrastructure, like water, roads, electricity, etc. Well, something like that at least. The way I read your point here is that liberals should classify social media in the same way. You're not really making a convincing argument here, though, but your line of reasoning opens up for the possibility of hypocrisy on the other side as well - if you think Alex Jones should be entitled to a platform on Facebook, shouldn't you similarly favor net neutrality?</quote> This guy logics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/11/18 3:00:03 PM #57:	I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:906697169] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/11/18 3:01:02 PM #58:	Damn_Underscore posted... I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it. Alright, nice. Because you seem to be making a case for social media neutrality as well. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:906697216] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it.</quote> Alright, nice. Because you seem to be making a case for social media neutrality as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/11/18 3:01:59 PM #59:	hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... metralo posted... JuanCarlos1 posted... Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me. People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? They did? Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906697271] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote> Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins.</quote> this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me.</quote> People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> They did?</quote> Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/11/18 3:03:00 PM #60:	This isn't about what's okay. A private or public company can't violate your right to free speech, only the government can. Alex Jones is more than capable of posting his broadcast to his own website --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:906697330] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>This isn't about what's okay. A private or public company can't violate your right to free speech, only the government can. Alex Jones is more than capable of posting his broadcast to his own website</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 08/11/18 3:04:13 PM #61:	>small government is good >government should write ToS for social media <cite>knutjob posted [p:906697396] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>>small government is good >government should write ToS for social media</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/11/18 3:04:46 PM #62:	darkjedilink posted... hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... metralo posted... JuanCarlos1 posted... Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me. People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? They did? Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it. Those are groups of people, not a single commentator --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:906697423] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote> Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins.</quote> this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me.</quote> People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> They did?</quote> Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it.</quote> Those are groups of people, not a single commentator</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/11/18 3:08:48 PM #63:	Solid Snake07 posted... darkjedilink posted... hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... metralo posted... JuanCarlos1 posted... Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me. People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? They did? Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it. Those are groups of people, not a single commentator So? That makes the rhetoric less deadly? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906697623] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote> Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins.</quote> this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me.</quote> People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> They did?</quote> Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it.</quote> Those are groups of people, not a single commentator</quote> So? That makes the rhetoric less deadly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/11/18 3:11:39 PM #64:	darkjedilink posted... Solid Snake07 posted... darkjedilink posted... hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... metralo posted... JuanCarlos1 posted... Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me. People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? They did? Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it. Those are groups of people, not a single commentator So? That makes the rhetoric less deadly? Okay, whose rhetoric? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:906697766] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>metralo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote> Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins.</quote> this. people have died due to his rhetoric. how the right is okay with this is fucking beyond me.</quote> People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> They did?</quote> Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it.</quote> Those are groups of people, not a single commentator</quote> So? That makes the rhetoric less deadly?</quote> Okay, whose rhetoric?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/11/18 3:11:43 PM #65:	scar the 1 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it. Alright, nice. Because you seem to be making a case for social media neutrality as well. Sure. Social media is basically the modern town square. And these companies that have an oligopoly over it shouldn't be able to ban some political discussion and fall back on "but we're private businesses" BTW, it's not like political tweet comment sections aren't some of the most toxic places on the internet to begin with. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:906697770] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it.</quote> Alright, nice. Because you seem to be making a case for social media neutrality as well.</quote> Sure. Social media is basically the modern town square. And these companies that have an oligopoly over it shouldn't be able to ban some political discussion and fall back on "but we're private businesses" BTW, it's not like political tweet comment sections aren't some of the most toxic places on the internet to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 08/11/18 3:12:49 PM #66:	Solid Snake07 posted... Those are groups of people, not a single commentator https://imgur.com/OoxuUTH --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:906697826] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Those are groups of people, not a single commentator</quote> https://imgur.com/OoxuUTH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/11/18 3:13:07 PM #67:	JuanCarlos1 posted... No. We dont agree with Glenn Beck or Fox news most of the time. Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. Thats all there really is to it. this --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:906697839] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>JuanCarlos1 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We dont agree with Glenn Beck or Fox news most of the time. Alex Jones is simply a dangerous individual to our society. Pinning people against each other with BS claims (democrat attack on july 4, Pizzagate, crisis actors..etc) just so he can make himself rich selling bs vitamins. Thats all there really is to it.</quote> this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/11/18 3:13:09 PM #68:	Damn_Underscore posted... scar the 1 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it. Alright, nice. Because you seem to be making a case for social media neutrality as well. Sure. Social media is basically the modern town square. And these companies that have an oligopoly over it shouldn't be able to ban some political discussion and fall back on "but we're private businesses" BTW, it's not like political tweet comment sections aren't some of the most toxic places on the internet to begin with. Sure, but there definitely is some speech that isn't allowed in town squares, either. If you don't think Facebook should be policing speech on Facebook, are you instead maybe favoring government ownership of social media? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:906697841] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>I do favor net neutrality. I don't think it actually matters because the country isn't going allow ISPs, no matter how big they are, to make the internet worse. But I still favor it.</quote> Alright, nice. Because you seem to be making a case for social media neutrality as well.</quote> Sure. Social media is basically the modern town square. And these companies that have an oligopoly over it shouldn't be able to ban some political discussion and fall back on "but we're private businesses" BTW, it's not like political tweet comment sections aren't some of the most toxic places on the internet to begin with.</quote> Sure, but there definitely is some speech that isn't allowed in town squares, either. If you don't think Facebook should be policing speech on Facebook, are you instead maybe favoring government ownership of social media?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/11/18 3:15:55 PM #69:	Facebook should be deleting "offensive" posts. But what exactly is offensive? Even if you think Alex Jones is one of the worst people in the world and banning him is good for everyone, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:906697983] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>Facebook should be deleting "offensive" posts. But what exactly is offensive? Even if you think Alex Jones is one of the worst people in the world and banning him is good for everyone, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/11/18 3:17:11 PM #70:	Damn_Underscore posted... Facebook should be deleting "offensive" posts. But what exactly is offensive? Even if you think Alex Jones is one of the worst people in the world and banning him is good for everyone, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones? families of the victims of school shootings were receiving death threats and constant harassment, dude --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:906698040] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Facebook should be deleting "offensive" posts. But what exactly is offensive? Even if you think Alex Jones is one of the worst people in the world and banning him is good for everyone, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones?</quote> families of the victims of school shootings were receiving death threats and constant harassment, dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/11/18 3:21:15 PM #71:	Like I said, even if you think Alex Jones was justifiably banned, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:906698264] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>Like I said, even if you think Alex Jones was justifiably banned, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/11/18 3:23:36 PM #72:	Damn_Underscore posted... Like I said, even if you think Alex Jones was justifiably banned, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones? no, not really. people should be able to discuss what happened with him being banned at least --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:906698404] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Like I said, even if you think Alex Jones was justifiably banned, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones?</quote> no, not really. people should be able to discuss what happened with him being banned at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/11/18 3:25:07 PM #73:	That's what I meant. There was that Youtuber whose stream got shut off because he was talking about Alex Jones. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:906698480] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>That's what I meant. There was that Youtuber whose stream got shut off because he was talking about Alex Jones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 08/11/18 3:26:25 PM #74:	Next time I'm at work I'm gonna tell my boss to fuck off and when I get fired I'll tell them they are violating my freedom of speech rights <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:906698543] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>Next time I'm at work I'm gonna tell my boss to fuck off and when I get fired I'll tell them they are violating my freedom of speech rights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 08/11/18 3:26:27 PM #75:	Damn_Underscore posted... Facebook should be deleting "offensive" posts. But what exactly is offensive? Even if you think Alex Jones is one of the worst people in the world and banning him is good for everyone, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones? Are Facebook deleting Alex Jones related posts? Honest question, haven't heard of it --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:906698546] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Facebook should be deleting "offensive" posts. But what exactly is offensive? Even if you think Alex Jones is one of the worst people in the world and banning him is good for everyone, do you think a line should be drawn at banning discussion of Alex Jones?</quote> Are Facebook deleting Alex Jones related posts? Honest question, haven't heard of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rimmer_Dall 08/11/18 3:30:46 PM #76:	The first amendment isn't free speech. The first amendment is the shield standing between free speech and the government. --- "The cheese it yours turtles." ~ William Shakespeare <cite>Rimmer_Dall posted [p:906698754] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>The first amendment isn't free speech. The first amendment is the shield standing between free speech and the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/11/18 3:39:09 PM #77:	Solid Snake07 posted... darkjedilink posted... Solid Snake07 posted... darkjedilink posted... hockeybub89 posted... darkjedilink posted... People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too? They did? Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it. Those are groups of people, not a single commentator So? That makes the rhetoric less deadly? Okay, whose rhetoric? BLM and Antifa's racist and incendiary rhetoric and outright lies directly lead people unaffiliated with them to start shooting cops. How is that different than Alex Jones? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906699213] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite><quote>People have died due to BLM and Antifa rhetoric, too. Should all media platforms ban BLM and Antifa, too?</quote> They did?</quote> Cops killed in Austin and BR by BLM supporters proves it.</quote> Those are groups of people, not a single commentator</quote> So? That makes the rhetoric less deadly?</quote> Okay, whose rhetoric?</quote> BLM and Antifa's racist and incendiary rhetoric and outright lies directly lead people unaffiliated with them to start shooting cops. How is that different than Alex Jones?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/11/18 3:53:21 PM #78:	These companies have a monopoly on the modern day public square. These platforms became so popular in the first place on the pretense that they allowed everyone to say what they wanted, within reason. People don't really have alternatives when it comes to letting their voice be heard, especially when that person is banned from most of the major platforms all at once. You don't have to support Alex Jones or Gavin McInnes or Proud Boys to understand how this is ethically wrong. What if the shoe was on the other foot? Would left-wingers really have no problem with immensely popular left-wing figures getting deplatformed in the same manner? Would they really just accept it? Conservatives, republicans, right-wingers, right-leaners, and independents make up a huge part of the userbase of these platforms. And in turn those who are vehemently opposed to this political censorship make up a huge part of their userbase. Left-wing authoritarians should stop with the bullshit and admit these are now unofficially left-wing designated social media platforms. Because that's what they're really happy about, at the core of the matter. Big tech social media platforms should be regulated to protect users. And as they continue to censor more and more political targets the closer we get to the midterms or even the 2020 election the higher the chances something drastic will be done. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:906699930] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>These companies have a monopoly on the modern day public square. These platforms became so popular in the first place on the pretense that they allowed everyone to say what they wanted, within reason. People don't really have alternatives when it comes to letting their voice be heard, especially when that person is banned from most of the major platforms all at once. You don't have to support Alex Jones or Gavin McInnes or Proud Boys to understand how this is ethically wrong. What if the shoe was on the other foot? Would left-wingers really have no problem with immensely popular left-wing figures getting deplatformed in the same manner? Would they really just accept it? Conservatives, republicans, right-wingers, right-leaners, and independents make up a huge part of the userbase of these platforms. And in turn those who are vehemently opposed to this political censorship make up a huge part of their userbase. Left-wing authoritarians should stop with the bullshit and admit these are now unofficially left-wing designated social media platforms. Because that's what they're really happy about, at the core of the matter. Big tech social media platforms should be regulated to protect users. And as they continue to censor more and more political targets the closer we get to the midterms or even the 2020 election the higher the chances something drastic will be done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 08/11/18 4:01:10 PM #79:	LMAO alt right fanboys are maaaaad silicon valley leans left. Complain about it at the next nascar race/Confederate flag showcase. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc. arent obligated to cater to conservative hate speech anymore than NRA TV is obligated to run David Hogg monologues. What this REALLY comes down to is coors light all stars essentially whining because they got banned from the really nice club. Sure, they can still go out to those shit tier dive bars and convince themselves they're having a good time, but they know it's not the same. Cry more --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:906700245] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>LMAO alt right fanboys are maaaaad silicon valley leans left. Complain about it at the next nascar race/Confederate flag showcase. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc. arent obligated to cater to conservative hate speech anymore than NRA TV is obligated to run David Hogg monologues. What this REALLY comes down to is coors light all stars essentially whining because they got banned from the really nice club. Sure, they can still go out to those shit tier dive bars and convince themselves they're having a good time, but they know it's not the same. Cry more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 08/11/18 4:02:12 PM #80:	But I thought government regulation was wrong. Let the free market decide! <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:906700297] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>But I thought government regulation was wrong. Let the free market decide!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 08/11/18 4:02:13 PM #81:	silentwing26x posted... it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:906700299] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship</quote> Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 08/11/18 4:09:46 PM #82:	The most disingenuous part of this is pretending like Alex Jones was targeted "because of his politics". --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:906700627] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>The most disingenuous part of this is pretending like Alex Jones was targeted "because of his politics".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 08/11/18 4:11:46 PM #83:	Anteaterking posted... The most disingenuous part of this is pretending like Alex Jones was targeted "because of his politics". Also pretending people have a constitutional right to have accounts on YouTube or Facebook. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:906700699] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>The most disingenuous part of this is pretending like Alex Jones was targeted "because of his politics".</quote> Also pretending people have a constitutional right to have accounts on YouTube or Facebook.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 08/11/18 4:29:26 PM #84:	What do think about breaking up "big tech"? I say bring it on (if the ship hasn't sailed). Also, that reminds me of this article I read earlier in the year: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a15895746/bust-big-tech-silicon-valley/ As for ISPs vs. social media companies, scar pretty much nailed my feelings on that. I believe that the internet is critical infrastructure, just like electricity, water, etc. Or the post; postal companies shouldn't be able to e.g. refuse packages from Amazon or you and I (unless there's a threat to safety or something). Similarly, I believe the internet should act as a "dumb pipe" with minimal filtering. The line I draw is basically between critical infrastructure itself (the internet) and uses of that infrastructure (social media). I suppose what counts as "critical infrastructure" is up to interpretation though (and under some interpretations, social media could be included or the internet not included, but not both). However, the modern world would not function without the internet (not so for social media I don't think, although it would certainly take a bit of getting used to). Social media itself would not function without it (and not the other way round). It is but one use of the internet (among many, many more). All that aside, I wouldn't be opposed to more stringent regulation of social media companies, to give people more recourse against them when facing a ban. Maybe not for every case (since that would clog up wherever these cases would be heard), but in cases where people's livelihoods are affected (or certain other criteria). CableZL posted... Also pretending people have a constitutional right to have accounts on YouTube or Facebook. Not that an account being banned prevents that anyway. A lot of the time you can even go right back on and create another account (if this site is anything to go by lol). Sure, it's not ideal, but it's not quite how people are portraying it. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:906701512] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>What do think about breaking up "big tech"? I say bring it on (if the ship hasn't sailed). Also, that reminds me of this article I read earlier in the year: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a15895746/bust-big-tech-silicon-valley/ As for ISPs vs. social media companies, scar pretty much nailed my feelings on that. I believe that the internet is critical infrastructure, just like electricity, water, etc. Or the post; postal companies shouldn't be able to e.g. refuse packages from Amazon or you and I (unless there's a threat to safety or something). Similarly, I believe the internet should act as a "dumb pipe" with minimal filtering. The line I draw is basically between critical infrastructure itself (the internet) and uses of that infrastructure (social media). I suppose what counts as "critical infrastructure" is up to interpretation though (and under some interpretations, social media could be included or the internet not included, but not both). However, the modern world would not function without the internet (not so for social media I don't think, although it would certainly take a bit of getting used to). Social media itself would not function without it (and not the other way round). It is but one use of the internet (among many, many more). All that aside, I wouldn't be opposed to more stringent regulation of social media companies, to give people more recourse against them when facing a ban. Maybe not for every case (since that would clog up wherever these cases would be heard), but in cases where people's livelihoods are affected (or certain other criteria). <cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>Also pretending people have a constitutional right to have accounts on YouTube or Facebook.</quote> Not that an account being banned prevents that anyway. A lot of the time you can even go right back on and create another account (if this site is anything to go by lol). Sure, it's not ideal, but it's not quite how people are portraying it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 08/11/18 4:30:28 PM #85:	There's no violation of the 1st amendment if its a private party. Your topic title is nonsense. --- Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:906701556] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>There's no violation of the 1st amendment if its a private party. Your topic title is nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 08/11/18 4:31:47 PM #86:	as long as ISPs don't start blacklisting Alex Jones' website (which I don't go to), I think I'm fine with it --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:906701612] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>as long as ISPs don't start blacklisting Alex Jones' website (which I don't go to), I think I'm fine with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 08/11/18 4:35:47 PM #87:	EffectAndCause posted... GameFAQs has a ToS and so does Twitter. GameFAQs DOES NOT have a ToS. It has a ToU!!!! Get with the fucking program people. Jesus Christ! <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906701776] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>EffectAndCause posted...</cite> <quote>GameFAQs has a ToS and so does Twitter.</quote> GameFAQs DOES NOT have a ToS. It has a ToU!!!! Get with the fucking program people. Jesus Christ!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/11/18 4:42:20 PM #88:	King_Hellebuyck posted... silentwing26x posted... it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906702058] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship</quote> Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board</quote> You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 08/11/18 4:43:18 PM #89:	darkjedilink posted... You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship. It isn't political censorship. Alex Jones was banned because he was calling for drag queens to be burned alive. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:906702100] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship.</quote> It isn't political censorship. Alex Jones was banned because he was calling for drag queens to be burned alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 08/11/18 4:44:30 PM #90:	darkjedilink posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... silentwing26x posted... it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship. He is free to host his own content --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:906702153] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship</quote> Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board</quote> You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship.</quote> He is free to host his own content</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/11/18 4:51:16 PM #92:	PyroBlade1985 posted... lilORANG posted... There's no violation of the 1st amendment if its a private party. Your topic title is nonsense. And how would you feel if someone like Rachel Maddow or Anita Sarkeesian got banned? Would you support the decision or stand up for their rights? If they call for drag queens to be burned alive like Alex Jones did, then banning them is fair. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:906702487] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>There's no violation of the 1st amendment if its a private party. Your topic title is nonsense.</quote> And how would you feel if someone like Rachel Maddow or Anita Sarkeesian got banned? Would you support the decision or stand up for their rights?</quote> If they call for drag queens to be burned alive like Alex Jones did, then banning them is fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/11/18 4:53:24 PM #93:	Conservatives: waaaaaggghh liberals --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:906702607] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives: waaaaaggghh liberals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 08/11/18 4:55:00 PM #94:	YourDrunkFather posted... Protip:Liberals don't actually care about the rights of businesses. They just like seeing someone they don't like/don't agree with get silenced and "a businesses rights" are a convenient defense of that. Yet when the opposite happens, its a problem (gay wedding cake story, for example). --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:906702684] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote>Protip:Liberals don't actually care about the rights of businesses. They just like seeing someone they don't like/don't agree with get silenced and "a businesses rights" are a convenient defense of that.</quote> Yet when the opposite happens, its a problem (gay wedding cake story, for example).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/11/18 4:57:15 PM #95:	MC_BatCommander posted... darkjedilink posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... silentwing26x posted... it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship. He is free to host his own content Until people start harassing his ISP and get him shut down that way. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906702796] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship</quote> Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board</quote> You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship.</quote> He is free to host his own content</quote> Until people start harassing his ISP and get him shut down that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/11/18 5:04:36 PM #96:	It's not hypocritical because sexual orientation is a protected status and being a loud, paranoid, asshole who incites people to riot so he can sell caveman bone broth miracle cure is not. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:906703142] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>It's not hypocritical because sexual orientation is a protected status and being a loud, paranoid, asshole who incites people to riot so he can sell caveman bone broth miracle cure is not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 08/11/18 5:06:06 PM #97:	I like how people are continuing to ignore the actual reason Alex Jones was banned just to try to claim his rights were somehow violated. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:906703209] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>I like how people are continuing to ignore the actual reason Alex Jones was banned just to try to claim his rights were somehow violated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 08/11/18 5:06:33 PM #98:	darkjedilink posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... silentwing26x posted... it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship. yawn Another stupid post --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:906703230] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote>it was hilarious seeing leftist cemen froth at the mouth over ajit pai and net neutrality and then a few months later celebrate when google and facebook and other major platforms completely succumbed to censorship</quote> Holy shit this might be the dumbest post Ive ever read on this board</quote> You can't really be all for a "free and open internet" if you're okay with major platforms committing political censorship.</quote> yawn Another stupid post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/11/18 5:07:29 PM #99:	Dash_Harber posted... It's not hypocritical because sexual orientation is a protected status and being a loud, paranoid, asshole who incites people to riot so he can sell caveman bone broth miracle cure is not. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night. Lemme guess - you also think white people can't be the victims of racism, right? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:906703278] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>It's not hypocritical because sexual orientation is a protected status and being a loud, paranoid, asshole who incites people to riot so he can sell caveman bone broth miracle cure is not.</quote> Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night. Lemme guess - you also think white people can't be the victims of racism, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/11/18 5:07:33 PM #100:	Also, that's a misuse of Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Speech only applies to the government censoring your opinions. There are limitations and have always been. Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom from repercussions, nor does it mean that a company is forced to publish anything presented to them. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:906703281] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote>Also, that's a misuse of Freedom of Speech. Freedom of Speech only applies to the government censoring your opinions. There are limitations and have always been. Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom from repercussions, nor does it mean that a company is forced to publish anything presented to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/11/18 5:07:52 PM #101:	CableZL posted... PyroBlade1985 posted... lilORANG posted... There's no violation of the 1st amendment if its a private party. Your topic title is nonsense. And how would you feel if someone like Rachel Maddow or Anita Sarkeesian got banned? Would you support the decision or stand up for their rights? If they call for drag queens to be burned alive like Alex Jones did, then banning them is fair. Where's the clip of this? I'd like to see it. On Twitter if you search for #VerifiedHate you will find many examples of abhorrent left-wing hate speech that goes unpunished. By and large, if a left-winger is doing it, it goes unpunished. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:906703294] in Liberals: ... [t:76893453]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>There's no violation of the 1st amendment if its a private party. Your topic title is nonsense.</quote> And how would you feel if someone like Rachel Maddow or Anita Sarkeesian got banned? Would you support the decision or stand up for their rights?</quote> If they call for drag queens to be burned alive like Alex Jones did, then banning them is fair.</quote> Where's the clip of this? I'd like to see it. On Twitter if you search for #VerifiedHate you will find many examples of abhorrent left-wing hate speech that goes unpunished. By and large, if a left-winger is doing it, it goes unpunished.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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