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Dash_Harber
08/03/18 7:33:43 PM
#51:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't agree that supporting Gun Owners is automatically akin to being opposed to a bright future.


You're strawmanning here. No one said that.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't get why you'd want to fantaize about that not happening and instead them all losing jobs and turning to prositution to pay the bills


Uhhh ... your entire post is one massive non-sequitur strawman. No one said anything like that. Do you want to take another shot at responding?
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UnfairRepresent
08/03/18 7:36:05 PM
#52:


Dash_Harber posted...


You're strawmanning here. No one said that.

You did:

See:
Dash_Harber posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I want them to change their minds and work towards a better future.


So you want them to become an organization that stands for the opposite politics than they do now?


Dash_Harber posted...


Uhhh ... your entire post is one massive non-sequitur strawman. No one said anything like that. Do you want to take another shot at responding?

I just don't get why you'd rather the NRA go under and people lose their jobs vs wishing the NRA would improve, thrive and help people.
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Bluebomber182
08/03/18 7:36:40 PM
#53:


fuck the nra

and the revival
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Dash_Harber
08/03/18 7:38:47 PM
#54:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I just don't get why you'd rather the NRA go under and people lose their jobs vs wishing the NRA would improve, thrive and help people.


Again, strawman. Maybe even a false dilemma. The fact that someone is working towards an objective does not make the objective morally sound simply because someone is following it. If the organization does a complete 180 and changes it's objectives to something else, then it's not really the NRA anymore because the only thing that defines it is said objectives, so what is the point?

I'm asking you if you are saying that you want the NRA to go against the ideas they were founded on.
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ChainedRedone
08/03/18 7:40:25 PM
#55:


Imagine responding unironically to unfair.
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Dash_Harber
08/03/18 7:41:10 PM
#56:


ChainedRedone posted...
Imagine responding unironically to unfair.


I don't have to imagine ;).
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DuneMan
08/03/18 7:45:16 PM
#57:


Bluebomber182 posted...
fuck the nra

Wasn't it only a month or so ago when that campaign advertisement released?

Anyway, the death of the NRA as a political organization should be a good thing. They treat politics like it was an extension of the Book of Revelation, where the only thing standing between the reign of the Anti-Christ on Earth is to vote for a Republican.
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Bio1590
08/03/18 7:47:44 PM
#58:


They're either lying or else horrible at managing their finances and have zero idea how to launder it from all the bullshit companies they have set up.
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P4wn4g3
08/03/18 7:50:20 PM
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Don't worry guys, some rich and somehow even more evil Republican will buy it out tomorrow and return it back to the corrupt lobbying machine it once was.
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UnfairRepresent
08/03/18 7:54:27 PM
#60:


Dash_Harber posted...

Again, strawman. Maybe even a false dilemma. The fact that someone is working towards an objective does not make the objective morally sound simply because someone is following it. If the organization does a complete 180 and changes it's objectives to something else, then it's not really the NRA anymore

Why not?

I don't agree with you that

1. A pro organization has to be evil.
2. If an organization changes then it is no longer the same company.

By that token of logic Naughty Dog stopped existing when they went from making cartoony platformers about Bandicoots to making The Last of Us because it was different.

Dash_Harber posted...

I'm asking you if you are saying that you want the NRA to go against the ideas they were founded on.

I'm no expert on the NRA's history but wasn't one of the big ideas the NRA was founded on the idea to help empower black minorities and fight the KKK by helping poor black Americans who were abused and undefended get guns?
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Tmaster148
08/03/18 7:58:49 PM
#61:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm no expert on the NRA's history but wasn't one of the big ideas the NRA was founded on the idea to help empower black minorities and fight the KKK by helping poor black Americans who were abused and undefended get guns?


If you are going to be contrarian at least learn history.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-california-open-carry-ban/
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UnfairRepresent
08/03/18 8:18:35 PM
#62:


Tmaster148 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm no expert on the NRA's history but wasn't one of the big ideas the NRA was founded on the idea to help empower black minorities and fight the KKK by helping poor black Americans who were abused and undefended get guns?


If you are going to be contrarian at least learn history.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-california-open-carry-ban/

What does something in 1967 have to do with the ideas that the NRA was founded on in 1871?

You just hurt your own point. You claimed a company can't change it's mind and now seconds later are mad at a company for changing its mind.

NRA started out as group trying to help soldiers with shitty aim and then helped Americans get guns including black soldiers. At least to my understanding

If it can go one way, it can go the other.
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Tmaster148
08/03/18 8:20:41 PM
#63:


UnfairRepresent posted...
You claimed a company can't change it's mind and now seconds later are mad at a company for changing its mind.


First I didn't claim anything of the sorts.

UnfairRepresent posted...
NRA started out as group trying to help soldiers with shitty aim and then helped Americans get guns including black soldiers. At least to my understanding


The NRA has not been favorable to blacks. They wanted to their restrict gun rights to blacks when they were arming in the street due to police violence towards them. Not to mention your "fact" is a lie anyways.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-founded-protect-black-people-kkk/
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Complete_Idi0t
08/03/18 8:21:20 PM
#64:


Guess I'll just watch college basketball instead
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Doe
08/03/18 8:22:30 PM
#65:


Dash_Harber posted...
we live in a society

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UnfairRepresent
08/03/18 8:25:02 PM
#66:


Tmaster148 posted...


First I didn't claim anything of the sorts.

Sorry I confused you with Dash

My bad.

Tmaster148 posted...


The NRA has not been favorable to blacks. They wanted to their restrict gun rights to blacks when they were arming in the street due to police violence towards them. .


Ok and if you think that's a bad thing then why not wish them to change their minds rather than wish them to lose their jobs?

It's your fantasy, you can wish for literally anything you want.

That's the part I don't get
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Tmaster148
08/03/18 8:26:30 PM
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I would rather people lose their jobs because a business got canned for doing unethical things than hoping that business will suddenly decide to act ethical.
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UnfairRepresent
08/03/18 8:33:57 PM
#68:


Tmaster148 posted...
I would rather people lose their jobs because a business got canned for doing unethical things than hoping that business will suddenly decide to act ethical.

Why?

Why would you fantasize about people suffering rather than people thriving?

That's sadism. I don't get it.
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Tmaster148
08/03/18 8:35:45 PM
#69:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I would rather people lose their jobs because a business got canned for doing unethical things than hoping that business will suddenly decide to act ethical.

Why?

Why would you fantasize about people suffering rather than people thriving?

That's sadism. I don't get it.


Not my problem if they aren't prepare for a situation where they no longer have a job. Most employment in the US is employment at will which means employers can fire employees without a reason as is.
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UnfairRepresent
08/03/18 8:37:08 PM
#70:


Tmaster148 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I would rather people lose their jobs because a business got canned for doing unethical things than hoping that business will suddenly decide to act ethical.

Why?

Why would you fantasize about people suffering rather than people thriving?

That's sadism. I don't get it.


Not my problem if they aren't prepare for a situation where they no longer have a job. Most employment in the US is employment at will which means employers can fire employees without a reason as is.


Wut....

We're talking about your fantasy is here.

What does "Not my problem" have to do with anything? You're saying you want this because it's not your problem?

That doesn't make coherant sense.
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dbf50
08/03/18 8:38:09 PM
#71:


Kmart outlives another one
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Tmaster148
08/03/18 8:55:32 PM
#72:


What's the issue with someone being a sadist? Not sure why you are trying to kink shame.
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Dark_Spiret
08/03/18 8:57:59 PM
#73:


oh well, hopefully this means more support for the GOA. assuming they are in trouble.
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Dash_Harber
08/03/18 9:04:22 PM
#74:


UnfairRepresent posted...
1. A pro organization has to be evil.


I never said that.

UnfairRepresent posted...
2. If an organization changes then it is no longer the same company.


I didn't say this, either. I said if NRA changed their practices, they'd literally be shutting down and changing into something completely different but keeping their name. That's not the case for every organization, but the issues with the NRA are literally in their founding philosophy.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I'm no expert on the NRA's history but wasn't one of the big ideas the NRA was founded on the idea to help empower black minorities and fight the KKK by helping poor black Americans who were abused and undefended get guns?


I don't know.
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UnfairRepresent
08/04/18 1:40:47 AM
#75:


Dash_Harber posted...
didn't say this, either. I said if NRA changed their practices, they'd literally be shutting down and changing into something completely different but keeping their name. That's not the case for every organization, but the issues with the NRA are literally in their founding philosophy.

such as?
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Womp_Womp
08/05/18 8:25:27 PM
#76:


Tmaster148 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
spudger posted...
womp womp


If you're going to do this, you might as well do it correctly.

@Womp_Womp

Womp womp
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Doom_Art
08/05/18 8:27:15 PM
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I'll be sending them my thoughts and prayers
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Dash_Harber
08/07/18 6:45:50 AM
#78:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
didn't say this, either. I said if NRA changed their practices, they'd literally be shutting down and changing into something completely different but keeping their name. That's not the case for every organization, but the issues with the NRA are literally in their founding philosophy.

such as?

Such as what? What are you looking for examples of?
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Kazi1212
08/07/18 11:56:05 AM
#79:


Dash_Harber posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
didn't say this, either. I said if NRA changed their practices, they'd literally be shutting down and changing into something completely different but keeping their name. That's not the case for every organization, but the issues with the NRA are literally in their founding philosophy.

such as?

Such as what? What are you looking for examples of?


What cases are there of organizations that didnt turn into something different by changing their practices?
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creativerealms
08/07/18 11:59:54 AM
#80:


I guess it's too risky for them to accept donations from Russians right now.
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Dash_Harber
08/08/18 1:18:19 AM
#81:


Kazi1212 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
didn't say this, either. I said if NRA changed their practices, they'd literally be shutting down and changing into something completely different but keeping their name. That's not the case for every organization, but the issues with the NRA are literally in their founding philosophy.

such as?

Such as what? What are you looking for examples of?

What cases are there of organizations that didnt turn into something different by changing their practices?

... I didn't say I had examples of that. I said the NRA is so rooted in their practices it would be absolutely insane to see them go 180* on them now.
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UnfairRepresent
08/08/18 12:27:19 PM
#82:


Dash_Harber posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
didn't say this, either. I said if NRA changed their practices, they'd literally be shutting down and changing into something completely different but keeping their name. That's not the case for every organization, but the issues with the NRA are literally in their founding philosophy.

such as?

Such as what? What are you looking for examples of?

What cases are there of organizations that didnt turn into something different by changing their practices?

... I didn't say I had examples of that. I said the NRA is so rooted in their practices it would be absolutely insane to see them go 180* on them now.

How so?
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