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ZombiePelican 07/31/18 2:03:40 AM #1:	Giant Bomb was literally founded because Jeff Gerstmann got canned from Gamespot because he gave a game a score the publisher didn't deem high enough. Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906008827] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Giant Bomb was literally founded because Jeff Gerstmann got canned from Gamespot because he gave a game a score the publisher didn't deem high enough. Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/31/18 2:04:41 AM #2:	Fans who throw tantrums over an 8/10 review intimidate reviewers far more than any publisher could. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:906008855] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Fans who throw tantrums over an 8/10 review intimidate reviewers far more than any publisher could.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 2:06:16 AM #3:	Darmik posted... Fans who throw tantrums over an 8/10 review intimidate reviewers far more than any publisher could. ITP: a few angry people on Reddit have more reach and influence than multibillion dollar corporations --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906008903] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Fans who throw tantrums over an 8/10 review intimidate reviewers far more than any publisher could.</quote> ITP: a few angry people on Reddit have more reach and influence than multibillion dollar corporations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 07/31/18 2:08:47 AM #4:	Depends on whether I agree with their score or not --- https://i.imgtc.com/3owskMW.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:906008979] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Depends on whether I agree with their score or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 07/31/18 2:09:36 AM #5:	oh good, you're back --- https://imgur.com/5UL2v5u "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:906009002] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>oh good, you're back</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tappor 07/31/18 2:09:53 AM #6:	ok --- *Still, Move Forward!* <cite>Tappor posted [p:906009010] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SH_expert44 07/31/18 2:15:40 AM #7:	https://imgur.com/SLQJc --- It's thinking... https://imgur.com/EgqnRyp https://imgur.com/U9kcEP9 <cite>SH_expert44 posted [p:906009185] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/SLQJc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 07/31/18 2:17:50 AM #9:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prw2B_03IzY" data-time=" --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:906009252] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prw2B_03IzY" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 2:19:18 AM #10:	Conflict posted... ZombiePelican posted... Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers I laugh at Polygon because that website and their reviewers are hot garbage, not because they're paid shills It's both, they have to just slap a number the publisher deems acceptable and can then regurgitate their shit rhetoric all underneath even if it makes no sense relative to the game or score --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906009296] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers</quote> I laugh at Polygon because that website and their reviewers are hot garbage, not because they're paid shills</quote> It's both, they have to just slap a number the publisher deems acceptable and can then regurgitate their shit rhetoric all underneath even if it makes no sense relative to the game or score</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/31/18 2:26:36 AM #11:	ZombiePelican posted... Conflict posted... ZombiePelican posted... Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers I laugh at Polygon because that website and their reviewers are hot garbage, not because they're paid shills It's both, they have to just slap a number the publisher deems acceptable and can then regurgitate their shit rhetoric all underneath even if it makes no sense relative to the game or score What's an example? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:906009507] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers</quote> I laugh at Polygon because that website and their reviewers are hot garbage, not because they're paid shills</quote> It's both, they have to just slap a number the publisher deems acceptable and can then regurgitate their shit rhetoric all underneath even if it makes no sense relative to the game or score</quote> What's an example?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 07/31/18 2:29:00 AM #12:	Fans grossly inflate scores so now only 8/10 and above is deemed playable. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:906009574] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Fans grossly inflate scores so now only 8/10 and above is deemed playable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 2:30:27 AM #13:	Darmik posted... ZombiePelican posted... Conflict posted... ZombiePelican posted... Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers I laugh at Polygon because that website and their reviewers are hot garbage, not because they're paid shills It's both, they have to just slap a number the publisher deems acceptable and can then regurgitate their shit rhetoric all underneath even if it makes no sense relative to the game or score What's an example? Witcher 3 and GTA 5. I'll try to find the original versions I have screencapped but the GTA 5 one pretty much just whined about how no women were playable and their Witcher 3 review boiled down to "boobs are icky" --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906009605] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Like it blows my mind when I see people point to scores from sites like IGN or Polygon as proof of a game's quality when it's clear the reviewers for these sites are literally just paid shills of publishers</quote> I laugh at Polygon because that website and their reviewers are hot garbage, not because they're paid shills</quote> It's both, they have to just slap a number the publisher deems acceptable and can then regurgitate their shit rhetoric all underneath even if it makes no sense relative to the game or score</quote> What's an example?</quote> Witcher 3 and GTA 5. I'll try to find the original versions I have screencapped but the GTA 5 one pretty much just whined about how no women were playable and their Witcher 3 review boiled down to "boobs are icky"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/31/18 2:32:23 AM #14:	ZombiePelican posted... Witcher 3 and GTA 5. I'll try to find the original versions I have screencapped but the GTA 5 one pretty much just whined about how no women were playable and their Witcher 3 review boiled down to "boobs are icky" Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?! --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:906009652] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Witcher 3 and GTA 5. I'll try to find the original versions I have screencapped but the GTA 5 one pretty much just whined about how no women were playable and their Witcher 3 review boiled down to "boobs are icky" </quote> Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 07/31/18 2:35:53 AM #16:	Darmik posted... Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?! He's saying they paid for the score, and that's why it didn't match the rest of the review. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:906009745] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?!</quote> He's saying they paid for the score, and that's why it didn't match the rest of the review.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 2:39:46 AM #17:	Darmik posted... ZombiePelican posted... Witcher 3 and GTA 5. I'll try to find the original versions I have screencapped but the GTA 5 one pretty much just whined about how no women were playable and their Witcher 3 review boiled down to "boobs are icky" Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?! The number is all that matters. --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906009838] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Witcher 3 and GTA 5. I'll try to find the original versions I have screencapped but the GTA 5 one pretty much just whined about how no women were playable and their Witcher 3 review boiled down to "boobs are icky" </quote> Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?!</quote> The number is all that matters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/31/18 2:41:35 AM #18:	JE19426 posted... Darmik posted... Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?! He's saying they paid for the score, and that's why it didn't match the rest of the review. IIRC those reviews were scored lower than average. So that doesn't really make sense either. But we're talking like 8/10 instead of 9-10/10. Gamers have this funny mindset where a game that's reviewed too high is paid for and a game that's reviewed too low is clickbait. His example in the OP was a punishment made after the review too. If they simply asked for a score it wouldn't have happened. Square-Enix did the same thing around the same time for Team Xbox and Final Fantasy XIII. There can be conflicts of interest but ZP simplifies the issue as always. He never really knows what he's talking about. Paying for a review score is way too blatant. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:906009877] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Rockstar and CDProjektRED paid for that?!</quote> He's saying they paid for the score, and that's why it didn't match the rest of the review.</quote> IIRC those reviews were scored lower than average. So that doesn't really make sense either. But we're talking like 8/10 instead of 9-10/10. Gamers have this funny mindset where a game that's reviewed too high is paid for and a game that's reviewed too low is clickbait. His example in the OP was a punishment made after the review too. If they simply asked for a score it wouldn't have happened. Square-Enix did the same thing around the same time for Team Xbox and Final Fantasy XIII. There can be conflicts of interest but ZP simplifies the issue as always. He never really knows what he's talking about. Paying for a review score is way too blatant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 07/31/18 2:42:50 AM #19:	So you think game developers get someone to write a musical score for them and then don't pay them? How cheap are those guys? <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:906009896] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>So you think game developers get someone to write a musical score for them and then don't pay them? How cheap are those guys?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 3:05:26 AM #20:	Darmik posted... Gamers have this funny mindset where a game that's reviewed too high is paid for and a game that's reviewed too low is clickbait. ITP: My precious mega corporations can never be at fault, it's those damn gamers expecting too much who are at fault Darmik posted... His example in the OP was a punishment made after the review too. If they simply asked for a score it wouldn't have happened What I said happened exactly like that. Gertsmann has said. He scored Kane and Lynch 2 lower than what they paid for and then threatened to pull ads so Gamepot canned him for it. Darmik posted... There can be conflicts of interest but ZP simplifies the issue as always. He never really knows what he's talking about. Paying for a review score is way too blatant. Says the guy who desperately reaches at every point possible for the sake of exonerating mega corporations --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906010414] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Gamers have this funny mindset where a game that's reviewed too high is paid for and a game that's reviewed too low is clickbait. </quote> ITP: My precious mega corporations can never be at fault, it's those damn gamers expecting too much who are at fault <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>His example in the OP was a punishment made after the review too. If they simply asked for a score it wouldn't have happened</quote> What I said happened exactly like that. Gertsmann has said. He scored Kane and Lynch 2 lower than what they paid for and then threatened to pull ads so Gamepot canned him for it. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>There can be conflicts of interest but ZP simplifies the issue as always. He never really knows what he's talking about. Paying for a review score is way too blatant.</quote> Says the guy who desperately reaches at every point possible for the sake of exonerating mega corporations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 07/31/18 3:07:22 AM #21:	Hey you were supposed to close your account --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:906010456] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Hey you were supposed to close your account</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/31/18 3:08:03 AM #22:	Oh hey, ZP is back and picking up just as many bites as ever --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:906010469] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Oh hey, ZP is back and picking up just as many bites as ever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 3:09:36 AM #23:	MC_BatCommander posted... Hey you were supposed to close your account Nope UnholyMudcrab posted... Oh hey, ZP is back and picking up just as many bites as ever How am I wrong? --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906010502] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>Hey you were supposed to close your account</quote> Nope <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Oh hey, ZP is back and picking up just as many bites as ever</quote> How am I wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProfessorKukui 07/31/18 3:10:14 AM #24:	<cite>ProfessorKukui posted [p:906010519] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/31/18 3:20:42 AM #25:	ZombiePelican posted... What I said happened exactly like that. Gertsmann has said. He scored Kane and Lynch 2 lower than what they paid for and then threatened to pull ads so Gamepot canned him for it. That is not "exactly what he said" The threat was always about pulling advertising money. As in the ads plastered on the site. Not disobeying a bribe. Out of all of the hundreds of journalists out there that have written articles that have criticized how the gaming industry works (especially reviews) why do you think there hasn't been a single one who has claimed their outlet sold review scores. I have read all sorts of things like review boot camps and reviewers trying to get jobs in PR for gaming publishers but nothing that obvious and blatant. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:906010739] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>What I said happened exactly like that. Gertsmann has said. He scored Kane and Lynch 2 lower than what they paid for and then threatened to pull ads so Gamepot canned him for it.</quote> That is not "exactly what he said" The threat was always about pulling advertising money. As in the ads plastered on the site. Not disobeying a bribe. Out of all of the hundreds of journalists out there that have written articles that have criticized how the gaming industry works (especially reviews) why do you think there hasn't been a single one who has claimed their outlet sold review scores. I have read all sorts of things like review boot camps and reviewers trying to get jobs in PR for gaming publishers but nothing that obvious and blatant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 3:25:17 AM #26:	Darmik posted... The threat was always about pulling advertising money. As in the ads plastered on the site. Not disobeying a bribe. Gee, why would they threaten to pull ad money? It's almost like they were upset they dudn't get an acceptable score for what they paid for. Darmik posted... Out of all of the hundreds of journalists out there that have written articles that have criticized how the gaming industry works (especially reviews) why do you think there hasn't been a single one who has claimed their outlet sold review scores. Because they'd get blacklisted and would have no career, Gertsmann was a huge fucking whistleblower for this shit and the fact you outright deny it, only shows how willfully ignorant you are. And all for the sake of defending faceless mega corporations from the criticism of consumers Absolutely pathetic --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906010821] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>The threat was always about pulling advertising money. As in the ads plastered on the site. Not disobeying a bribe. </quote> Gee, why would they threaten to pull ad money? It's almost like they were upset they dudn't get an acceptable score for what they paid for. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Out of all of the hundreds of journalists out there that have written articles that have criticized how the gaming industry works (especially reviews) why do you think there hasn't been a single one who has claimed their outlet sold review scores.</quote> Because they'd get blacklisted and would have no career, Gertsmann was a huge fucking whistleblower for this shit and the fact you outright deny it, only shows how willfully ignorant you are. And all for the sake of defending faceless mega corporations from the criticism of consumers Absolutely pathetic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 07/31/18 3:26:40 AM #27:	Game journalism is literally the "not good enough for a real job" job --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:906010849] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote>Game journalism is literally the "not good enough for a real job" job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/31/18 3:30:15 AM #28:	ZombiePelican posted... Gee, why would they threaten to pull ad money? It's almost like they were upset they dudn't get an acceptable score for what they paid for. Because they didn't want to advertise their game on a site that didn't give them a good review and GameSpot buckled because they were cowards. It's a completely different controversy than what you are claiming. ZombiePelican posted... Because they'd get blacklisted and would have no career, Gertsmann was a huge f*ing whistleblower for this s* and the fact you outright deny it, only shows how willfully ignorant you are. And all for the sake of defending faceless mega corporations from the criticism of consumers I'm not defending them. I'm correcting your ignorance like always. What they did was still shit. Gerstmann still stands by the GameSpot editorial team btw. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:906010935] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Gee, why would they threaten to pull ad money? It's almost like they were upset they dudn't get an acceptable score for what they paid for.</quote> Because they didn't want to advertise their game on a site that didn't give them a good review and GameSpot buckled because they were cowards. It's a completely different controversy than what you are claiming. <cite>ZombiePelican posted...</cite> <quote>Because they'd get blacklisted and would have no career, Gertsmann was a huge f*ing whistleblower for this s* and the fact you outright deny it, only shows how willfully ignorant you are. And all for the sake of defending faceless mega corporations from the criticism of consumers</quote> I'm not defending them. I'm correcting your ignorance like always. What they did was still shit. Gerstmann still stands by the GameSpot editorial team btw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 07/31/18 3:37:53 AM #29:	Darmik posted... Because they didn't want to advertise their game on a site that didn't give them a good review and GameSpot buckled because they were cowards. They buckled because they already had obligations to follow after being prepaid for a good score, stop this desperate corporate shilling Darmik posted... I'm not defending them. I'm correcting your ignorance like always. What they did was still shit. I'm not defending them I'm just defending them but I'm saying I'm not defending them so I totally am not defending them, that's totally how it works - Darmik 2018 --- https://imgur.com/SiKIsHD https://imgur.com/V62ygzP https://imgur.com/M0MRS6S https://imgur.com/Lc56ify <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:906011126] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Because they didn't want to advertise their game on a site that didn't give them a good review and GameSpot buckled because they were cowards.</quote> They buckled because they already had obligations to follow after being prepaid for a good score, stop this desperate corporate shilling <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not defending them. I'm correcting your ignorance like always. What they did was still shit. </quote> I'm not defending them I'm just defending them but I'm saying I'm not defending them so I totally am not defending them, that's totally how it works - Darmik 2018</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/31/18 3:50:27 AM #30:	LightningAce11 posted... Fans grossly inflate scores so now only 8/10 and above is deemed playable. This. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:906011405] in It's amazi... [t:76857138]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote>Fans grossly inflate scores so now only 8/10 and above is deemed playable.</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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