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KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:24:35 PM #102:	CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906040142] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:25:35 PM #103:	@MaverickXeo posted... A_Good_Boy posted... MaverickXeo posted... Its a good idea, although the name is probably meant to stir controversy. The idea is that America is a 'free market' and it should be up to sellers, producers, etc to determine who they can and will sell to. At the same point, buyers are allowed to make the same choices. Good old Jim Crow. Trump truly is taking us back to when America was at its greatest. If the businesses want to segregate, they can. They will most likely fail. The free market prevents a lot of this from happening in the current age. EDIT: even looking at the 'cake case,' look at how much business was lost due to their beliefs. Oh yeah, they sure will! For fuck's sake, don't be that dishonest. Do you think that the county that elected Arpaio for all of these years would be upset if Burger King suddenly had a sign that said "we don't serve Hispanics"? Do you think that Northern Florida would sabotage a business with "No blacks served" signs everywhere? Do you think Montana, the land of Richard Spencer, and the land who elected supremacist Tom Cotton to Senate would care deeply if asians weren't served at WalMart? Do you think that Alabama, the land that ALMOST elected roy moore despite his "America was last great when we had slavery" would be sad if Chick Fil A didn't serve blacks? <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040195] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>@MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>Its a good idea, although the name is probably meant to stir controversy. The idea is that America is a 'free market' and it should be up to sellers, producers, etc to determine who they can and will sell to. At the same point, buyers are allowed to make the same choices.</quote> Good old Jim Crow. Trump truly is taking us back to when America was at its greatest.</quote> If the businesses want to segregate, they can. They will most likely fail. The free market prevents a lot of this from happening in the current age. EDIT: even looking at the 'cake case,' look at how much business was lost due to their beliefs.</quote> Oh yeah, they sure will! For fuck's sake, don't be that dishonest. Do you think that the county that elected Arpaio for all of these years would be upset if Burger King suddenly had a sign that said "we don't serve Hispanics"? Do you think that Northern Florida would sabotage a business with "No blacks served" signs everywhere? Do you think Montana, the land of Richard Spencer, and the land who elected supremacist Tom Cotton to Senate would care deeply if asians weren't served at WalMart? Do you think that Alabama, the land that ALMOST elected roy moore despite his "America was last great when we had slavery" would be sad if Chick Fil A didn't serve blacks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:25:54 PM #104:	KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that Some did, KlanJohnny. <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040211] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> Some did, KlanJohnny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:27:39 PM #105:	Hawaiian_punch posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that Some did, KlanJohnny. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906040318] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> Some did, KlanJohnny.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:27:43 PM #106:	MaverickXeo posted... CiIantro posted... MaverickXeo posted... CiIantro posted... MaverickXeo posted... EDIT: even looking at the 'cake case,' look at how much business was lost due to their beliefs. Virtually none. Bigots were actually sending them money to support them. They MADE money. Your argument that society is inherently moral is 100% false. Sending them money for a court case. They 'lost' sales, though. At the same time, if a business stated they WOULD bake the cake for the couple after the first stated they would not, the second baker would get 'support' from those who support that couple as well. Sorry, but I dont think the lives of minorities should be used as pawns in a game of anarcho-capitalism. At a certain point, you have to realize that rampant discrimination massively decreases the quality of life for minority populations. That is not a society I want to live in. People deserve to be treated with basic decency. We have seen what unfettered discrimination looks like, and it is disgusting. And that was... how many years ago? We have changed as a society. A lot of 'laws' are not actually enforced because there is no need to enforce them now. Socially, we are more responsible as a whole. Yes, we changed a lot as a society, then your boy 45 said we needed to go back to those times and racists everywhere rejoiced and voted for him. <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040324] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: even looking at the 'cake case,' look at how much business was lost due to their beliefs.</quote> Virtually none. Bigots were actually sending them money to support them. They MADE money. Your argument that society is inherently moral is 100% false.</quote> Sending them money for a court case. They 'lost' sales, though. At the same time, if a business stated they WOULD bake the cake for the couple after the first stated they would not, the second baker would get 'support' from those who support that couple as well.</quote> Sorry, but I dont think the lives of minorities should be used as pawns in a game of anarcho-capitalism. At a certain point, you have to realize that rampant discrimination massively decreases the quality of life for minority populations. That is not a society I want to live in. People deserve to be treated with basic decency. We have seen what unfettered discrimination looks like, and it is disgusting. </quote> And that was... how many years ago? We have changed as a society. A lot of 'laws' are not actually enforced because there is no need to enforce them now. Socially, we are more responsible as a whole.</quote> Yes, we changed a lot as a society, then your boy 45 said we needed to go back to those times and racists everywhere rejoiced and voted for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:28:52 PM #107:	KhanJohnny posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that Some did, KlanJohnny. and still do. Come on. <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040383] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> Some did, KlanJohnny.</quote></quote> and still do. Come on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:30:10 PM #108:	Hawaiian_punch posted... KhanJohnny posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that Some did, KlanJohnny. and still do. Come on. That is not the official teaching of the LDS as far as I am aware. Individual members might believe anything. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906040447] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> Some did, KlanJohnny.</quote></quote> and still do. Come on.</quote> That is not the official teaching of the LDS as far as I am aware. Individual members might believe anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 07/31/18 4:32:36 PM #109:	@KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement <cite>CiIantro posted [p:906040557] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>@KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 07/31/18 4:33:31 PM #110:	america taking another step backwards lol Trash country No universal health care, no guaranteed superannuation (401k), no paid holidays, fear of being shot in the streets, no middle class, political extremism, a quality of life index falling by the year and now literal religious task force. America is a third world country. Change my mind. --- COOK WITH A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL JUST TO DRINK OUT THE DRIP TRAY <cite>DavidWong posted [p:906040600] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>america taking another step backwards lol Trash country No universal health care, no guaranteed superannuation (401k), no paid holidays, fear of being shot in the streets, no middle class, political extremism, a quality of life index falling by the year and now literal religious task force. America is a third world country. Change my mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 07/31/18 4:33:38 PM #111:	Oh shit I remember reading about that mormon belief. I lol'd at how ridiculous it is <cite>Axiom posted [p:906040604] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>Oh shit I remember reading about that mormon belief. I lol'd at how ridiculous it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:34:45 PM #112:	CiIantro posted... @KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement KlanJohhny has been schooled! <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040662] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement</quote> KlanJohhny has been schooled!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:36:08 PM #114:	Axiom posted... Oh shit I remember reading about that mormon belief. I lol'd at how ridiculous it is Who knows? Bigots out there may establish a new religion (e.g. "Traditionalist Church of the First Scriptures") and say their companies are of such religion so they can deny all minorities and LGBT because 'that's what their religion says" <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040732] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Oh shit I remember reading about that mormon belief. I lol'd at how ridiculous it is</quote> Who knows? Bigots out there may establish a new religion (e.g. "Traditionalist Church of the First Scriptures") and say their companies are of such religion so they can deny all minorities and LGBT because 'that's what their religion says"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/31/18 4:36:54 PM #115:	KhanJohnny posted... Mormons don't believe that I'll take "Talking out my ass" for $100, Alex --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:906040770] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>Mormons don't believe that</quote> I'll take "Talking out my ass" for $100, Alex</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 07/31/18 4:36:56 PM #116:	Hawaiian_punch posted... CiIantro posted... @KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement KlanJohhny has been schooled! Edited to add in this source as well. It wasnt until 2013 that the mormon church stopped calling interracial marriage a sin. They still believe that all black people are impure though and descended from one of the worst sinners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints <cite>CiIantro posted [p:906040773] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement</quote> KlanJohhny has been schooled!</quote> Edited to add in this source as well. It wasnt until 2013 that the mormon church stopped calling interracial marriage a sin. They still believe that all black people are impure though and descended from one of the worst sinners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:38:15 PM #117:	CiIantro posted... @KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement And it seems they have retracted their racial animosity against black people. Not that it matters. Mormons are a small religious group, and do not have the capacity to deny black people reasonable access to a certain service. If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. In the modern era, businesses that discriminate will face boycotts and social media campaigns against them. The notion that we're going to revert 80 years is just plain silly. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906040850] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement</quote> And it seems they have retracted their racial animosity against black people. Not that it matters. Mormons are a small religious group, and do not have the capacity to deny black people reasonable access to a certain service. If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. In the modern era, businesses that discriminate will face boycotts and social media campaigns against them. The notion that we're going to revert 80 years is just plain silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 07/31/18 4:38:25 PM #118:	Hawaiian_punch posted... MaverickXeo posted... CiIantro posted... MaverickXeo posted... CiIantro posted... MaverickXeo posted... EDIT: even looking at the 'cake case,' look at how much business was lost due to their beliefs. Virtually none. Bigots were actually sending them money to support them. They MADE money. Your argument that society is inherently moral is 100% false. Sending them money for a court case. They 'lost' sales, though. At the same time, if a business stated they WOULD bake the cake for the couple after the first stated they would not, the second baker would get 'support' from those who support that couple as well. Sorry, but I dont think the lives of minorities should be used as pawns in a game of anarcho-capitalism. At a certain point, you have to realize that rampant discrimination massively decreases the quality of life for minority populations. That is not a society I want to live in. People deserve to be treated with basic decency. We have seen what unfettered discrimination looks like, and it is disgusting. And that was... how many years ago? We have changed as a society. A lot of 'laws' are not actually enforced because there is no need to enforce them now. Socially, we are more responsible as a whole. Yes, we changed a lot as a society, then your boy 45 said we needed to go back to those times and racists everywhere rejoiced and voted for him. 'My boy?' Also, when did Trump say we need to back to racism? --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:906040864] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: even looking at the 'cake case,' look at how much business was lost due to their beliefs.</quote> Virtually none. Bigots were actually sending them money to support them. They MADE money. Your argument that society is inherently moral is 100% false.</quote> Sending them money for a court case. They 'lost' sales, though. At the same time, if a business stated they WOULD bake the cake for the couple after the first stated they would not, the second baker would get 'support' from those who support that couple as well.</quote> Sorry, but I dont think the lives of minorities should be used as pawns in a game of anarcho-capitalism. At a certain point, you have to realize that rampant discrimination massively decreases the quality of life for minority populations. That is not a society I want to live in. People deserve to be treated with basic decency. We have seen what unfettered discrimination looks like, and it is disgusting. </quote> And that was... how many years ago? We have changed as a society. A lot of 'laws' are not actually enforced because there is no need to enforce them now. Socially, we are more responsible as a whole.</quote> Yes, we changed a lot as a society, then your boy 45 said we needed to go back to those times and racists everywhere rejoiced and voted for him.</quote> 'My boy?' Also, when did Trump say we need to back to racism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/31/18 4:38:26 PM #119:	i cant believe people dont recognize the overwhelming persecution of white christians in this country --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:906040866] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>i cant believe people dont recognize the overwhelming persecution of white christians in this country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 4:39:17 PM #121:	CiIantro posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... CiIantro posted... @KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable. Mormons don't believe that I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement KlanJohhny has been schooled! Edited to add in this source as well. It wasnt until 2013 that the mormon church stopped calling interracial marriage a sin. They still believe that all black people are impure though and descended from one of the worst sinners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints oh shit. This didn't even cross my mind. Sessions is definitely going after this. If they can't repel Loving v Virginia at least they can have GOP churches (eg evangelicals) and companies in red states deny services to interracial marriages! <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906040912] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> Black people couldn't get service in the 40s in the South, hence the exception There is no reason liberal homosexuals in Colorado need to bully a small business into oblivion when they have a myriad of other options</quote> You realize Mormons believe black people are all impure and descended from sinners, right? "Religious Liberty" laws will literally take this country back to the 40s. It goes beyond just sexuality. Sorry, but that isnt a society I want to live in. Your religion doesnt give you a free licence to make other people miserable.</quote> Mormons don't believe that</quote> I was fucking raised mormon. Yes they 100% do. They believe that black people were cursed by god, and that is why their race exists. It is an extremely racist religion at its core. Brigham Young called for people in interracial marriages to be executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormon_priesthood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement</quote> KlanJohhny has been schooled!</quote> Edited to add in this source as well. It wasnt until 2013 that the mormon church stopped calling interracial marriage a sin. They still believe that all black people are impure though and descended from one of the worst sinners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints</quote> oh shit. This didn't even cross my mind. Sessions is definitely going after this. If they can't repel Loving v Virginia at least they can have GOP churches (eg evangelicals) and companies in red states deny services to interracial marriages!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 07/31/18 4:39:38 PM #122:	KhanJohnny posted... In the modern era, businesses that discriminate will face boycots and social media campaigns against them. The notion that we're going to revert 80 years is just plain silly. EXACTLY! Look at what has happened with stuff with James Gunn, Roseanne, Starbucks, etc. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:906040935] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> In the modern era, businesses that discriminate will face boycots and social media campaigns against them. The notion that we're going to revert 80 years is just plain silly.</quote> EXACTLY! Look at what has happened with stuff with James Gunn, Roseanne, Starbucks, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 07/31/18 4:41:03 PM #123:	KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:906041002] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:42:21 PM #124:	CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906041080] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 07/31/18 4:43:12 PM #125:	A "class" Oh man --- COOK WITH A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL JUST TO DRINK OUT THE DRIP TRAY <cite>DavidWong posted [p:906041134] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>A "class" Oh man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 07/31/18 4:43:46 PM #126:	KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? <cite>CiIantro posted [p:906041157] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too.</quote> So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:43:46 PM #127:	DavidWong posted... A "class" Oh man Those are terms we use in the law <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906041158] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>DavidWong posted...</cite> <quote>A "class" Oh man</quote> Those are terms we use in the law</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/31/18 4:44:32 PM #128:	What a shithole country. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:906041201] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>What a shithole country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:47:39 PM #129:	CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906041370] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too.</quote> So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion?</quote> I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 07/31/18 4:49:17 PM #130:	KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake. Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:906041467] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too.</quote> So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion?</quote> I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake.</quote> Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 4:50:43 PM #131:	CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake. Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society. It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906041547] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too.</quote> So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion?</quote> I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake.</quote> Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society.</quote> It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 07/31/18 4:57:08 PM #132:	KhanJohnny posted... It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free. Well, I can see you will never change your mind, so I guess we are done here. You might change your mind one day when you go out to dinner with your family and are turned away at the door and demeaned because the owner happens to be part of some fringe religion that hates something about you. But if that is your idea of a utopia, then more power to ya. <cite>CiIantro posted [p:906041887] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free.</quote> Well, I can see you will never change your mind, so I guess we are done here. You might change your mind one day when you go out to dinner with your family and are turned away at the door and demeaned because the owner happens to be part of some fringe religion that hates something about you. But if that is your idea of a utopia, then more power to ya.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 07/31/18 4:57:32 PM #133:	TheSextMachine posted... Remember, the left feels that muslims should be able to oppress with their religion while Christians should get shit on. not true at all source: am a leftist --- Playing: Yakuza Kiwami; Superhot; Vermintide 2 *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:906041905] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote>Remember, the left feels that muslims should be able to oppress with their religion while Christians should get shit on.</quote> not true at all source: am a leftist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 5:00:23 PM #134:	CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free. Well, I can see you will never change your mind, so I guess we are done here. You might change your mind one day when you go out to dinner with your family and are turned away at the door and demeaned because the owner happens to be part of some fringe religion that hates something about you. But if that is your idea of a utopia, then more power to ya. I would rather not give money to that sort of establishment anyway. Why would I want to force them to serve me and benefit some maniac? <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906042072] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free.</quote> Well, I can see you will never change your mind, so I guess we are done here. You might change your mind one day when you go out to dinner with your family and are turned away at the door and demeaned because the owner happens to be part of some fringe religion that hates something about you. But if that is your idea of a utopia, then more power to ya.</quote> I would rather not give money to that sort of establishment anyway. Why would I want to force them to serve me and benefit some maniac?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/31/18 5:01:00 PM #135:	KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake. Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society. It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free. A business isnt a person. A person running a business can close down permanently if their religion effects their ability to serve a legal customer. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:906042105] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. </quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. </quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. </quote> So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? </quote> I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake. </quote> Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society.</quote> It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free.</quote> A business isnt a person. A person running a business can close down permanently if their religion effects their ability to serve a legal customer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 5:04:12 PM #136:	Rika_Furude posted... A business isnt a person. A person running a business can close down permanently if their religion effects their ability to serve a legal customer. And if that's the case, so what? Progressives win. Don't frequent businesses that dont want to serve your favored class and boycott them. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906042275] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> A business isnt a person. A person running a business can close down permanently if their religion effects their ability to serve a legal customer.</quote> And if that's the case, so what? Progressives win. Don't frequent businesses that dont want to serve your favored class and boycott them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/31/18 5:54:54 PM #138:	KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... CiIantro posted... KhanJohnny posted... If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene. So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal. Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too. So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion? I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake. Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society. It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free. Its irrational/fucked up to hold religious beliefs that force you to discriminate. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:906045078] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CiIantro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote>If that turns out not to be true, then the government should intervene.</quote> So it is only ok to discriminate against gay people, but black people are off limits? You can't pick and choose which minorities you hate. 'Religious Freedom" is a package deal.</quote> Are you obtuse? I literally said the government should intervene if a class is being systematically denied a service, that means homosexuals too.</quote> So you say that the government should prevent discrimination...immediately after you say that anyone should be allowed unrestricted rights to discriminate as long as they cite religion?</quote> I really didnt think this was such a hard concept to understand. People should be allowed to discriminate in their business for whatever reasons they want without government interference. However, if a particular member of a class defined by say race, religion, gender, orientation can show that in their area there is no reasonable way for them to seek alternative access to a similar service, then the business should be forced to serve them. Ex. 1: A gay man is turned away at a bakery for his wedding cake. There are 5 other similar bakeries within 10 mins. Result: Government does.not intervene. Ex. 2: Same scenario, but closest bakery is 200 miles away. Result: Government forces the business to bake the wedding cake.</quote> Oooooor we could just say that discrimination in all forms is fucked up/irrational and has no place in a civilized society.</quote> It's irrational/fucked up to force a person to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate groups that the government has picked as winners in the culture war in a society that allegedly calls itself free.</quote> Its irrational/fucked up to hold religious beliefs that force you to discriminate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/31/18 5:56:26 PM #139:	Of course it's Jeff Sessions, that fucking idiot. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:906045182] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>Of course it's Jeff Sessions, that fucking idiot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 07/31/18 5:59:10 PM #140:	Prestoff posted... Of course it's Jeff Sessions, that fucking idiot. Oh no, Sessions, to everyone's great dismay, is far from an idiot. A hyper racist soulless evil fuck maybe, but not stupid. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:906045328] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>Of course it's Jeff Sessions, that fucking idiot.</quote> Oh no, Sessions, to everyone's great dismay, is far from an idiot. A hyper racist soulless evil fuck maybe, but not stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 5:59:37 PM #141:	KlanJohhny, why are you so happy about gay people getting denied services? <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906045364] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>KlanJohhny, why are you so happy about gay people getting denied services?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/31/18 6:01:03 PM #142:	P4wn4g3 posted... Prestoff posted... Of course it's Jeff Sessions, that fucking idiot. Oh no, Sessions, to everyone's great dismay, is far from an idiot. A hyper racist soulless evil fuck maybe, but not stupid. Good point --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:906045436] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>Of course it's Jeff Sessions, that fucking idiot.</quote> Oh no, Sessions, to everyone's great dismay, is far from an idiot. A hyper racist soulless evil fuck maybe, but not stupid.</quote> Good point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 6:01:50 PM #143:	ScazarMeltex posted... Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906045471] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 07/31/18 6:03:15 PM #144:	KhanJohnny posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers. literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:906045547] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers.</quote> literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 6:04:21 PM #145:	SSJCAT posted... KhanJohnny posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers. literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO I don't think it's the same, but who am I to tell an Amish person who runs a bakery that they must do it for a gay wedding, when they probably do think they are the same? <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906045611] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers.</quote> literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO</quote> I don't think it's the same, but who am I to tell an Amish person who runs a bakery that they must do it for a gay wedding, when they probably do think they are the same?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 07/31/18 6:09:36 PM #146:	Christianity is a blight on the modern world --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:906045903] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>Christianity is a blight on the modern world</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 07/31/18 6:11:45 PM #147:	As is Jeff Sessions --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:906046024] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote>As is Jeff Sessions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/31/18 6:19:21 PM #148:	TheSextMachine posted... Remember, the left feels that muslims should be able to oppress with their religion while Christians should get shit on. And before you try to lump me in with these people, as a Christian I think all religion has no place in government. No we don't. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:906046447] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheSextMachine posted...</cite> <quote>Remember, the left feels that muslims should be able to oppress with their religion while Christians should get shit on. And before you try to lump me in with these people, as a Christian I think all religion has no place in government.</quote> No we don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/31/18 8:21:48 PM #149:	KhanJohnny posted... SSJCAT posted... KhanJohnny posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers. literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO I don't think it's the same, but who am I to tell an Amish person who runs a bakery that they must do it for a gay wedding, when they probably do think they are the same? Delusional people can believe whatever they want. Reality doesn't have to correspond and nor should society bend to their nonsense. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:906052855] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers.</quote> literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO</quote> I don't think it's the same, but who am I to tell an Amish person who runs a bakery that they must do it for a gay wedding, when they probably do think they are the same?</quote> Delusional people can believe whatever they want. Reality doesn't have to correspond and nor should society bend to their nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/31/18 8:23:29 PM #150:	Funkydog posted... KhanJohnny posted... SSJCAT posted... KhanJohnny posted... ScazarMeltex posted... Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers. literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO I don't think it's the same, but who am I to tell an Amish person who runs a bakery that they must do it for a gay wedding, when they probably do think they are the same? Delusional people can believe whatever they want. Reality doesn't have to correspond and nor should society bend to their nonsense. Society isn't bending to them. People can choose to spend their money elsewhere, which will hurt the business and drive it away, achieving the same outcomes without state coercion. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:906052944] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJCAT posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> Not really. I'm sure if you were a business owner and you knew a convicted pedophile walked into your store, you might be tempted to refuse service to them. Many people would, regardless of whether their beliefs are religious or otherwise. That's a form of discrimination, and I fail to see what's wrong with it. Different people have differing views about which people they want to discriminate against. It shouldn't be okay for the state to pick winners and losers.</quote> literally just compared pedophiles to gay people. GTFO</quote> I don't think it's the same, but who am I to tell an Amish person who runs a bakery that they must do it for a gay wedding, when they probably do think they are the same?</quote> Delusional people can believe whatever they want. Reality doesn't have to correspond and nor should society bend to their nonsense.</quote> Society isn't bending to them. People can choose to spend their money elsewhere, which will hurt the business and drive it away, achieving the same outcomes without state coercion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRealDill2000 07/31/18 8:50:47 PM #151:	KhanJohnny posted... TheRealDill2000 posted... I think people are blowing this out of proportion and assuming the worst case scenario. We can trust that this administration won't interfere with anyone's natural rights. This is basically going to amount to not requiring like Catholic businesses to hire people in same sex marriages or for evangelicals not to bake cakes for gay weddings, but yet again hysteria has seized the left. What you described falls into the "worst case" scenario I was referring to... I'm trusting that our administration does not have bad intentions with this task force. --- CE's source of sagely advice #BLM <cite>TheRealDill2000 posted [p:906054292] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRealDill2000 posted...</cite> <quote> I think people are blowing this out of proportion and assuming the worst case scenario. We can trust that this administration won't interfere with anyone's natural rights.</quote> This is basically going to amount to not requiring like Catholic businesses to hire people in same sex marriages or for evangelicals not to bake cakes for gay weddings, but yet again hysteria has seized the left.</quote> What you described falls into the "worst case" scenario I was referring to... I'm trusting that our administration does not have bad intentions with this task force.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 07/31/18 9:15:42 PM #152:	Hawaiian_punch posted... KlanJohhny, why are you so happy about gay people getting denied services? i have him tagged as "used SJW seriously" and its a trend among people who use the term SJW seriously that they have serious issues with either women, non white people, or homosexuals sometimes they only have issues with one group sometimes they hate all 3 groups but the point is they have based their belief system on hatred and anger that people care about issues that they dont --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:906055629] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote>KlanJohhny, why are you so happy about gay people getting denied services?</quote> i have him tagged as "used SJW seriously" and its a trend among people who use the term SJW seriously that they have serious issues with either women, non white people, or homosexuals sometimes they only have issues with one group sometimes they hate all 3 groups but the point is they have based their belief system on hatred and anger that people care about issues that they dont</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/31/18 9:26:07 PM #153:	KhanJohnny posted... Rika_Furude posted... A business isnt a person. A person running a business can close down permanently if their religion effects their ability to serve a legal customer. And if that's the case, so what? Progressives win. Don't frequent businesses that dont want to serve your favored class and boycott them. The free market can only exist when all customers have equal opportunity. This "discrimination is ok because take your money elsewhere" doesnt work in the real world. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:906056173] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>KhanJohnny posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> A business isnt a person. A person running a business can close down permanently if their religion effects their ability to serve a legal customer. </quote> And if that's the case, so what? Progressives win. Don't frequent businesses that dont want to serve your favored class and boycott them.</quote> The free market can only exist when all customers have equal opportunity. This "discrimination is ok because take your money elsewhere" doesnt work in the real world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hawaiian_punch 07/31/18 9:35:20 PM #154:	yusiko posted... Hawaiian_punch posted... KlanJohhny, why are you so happy about gay people getting denied services? i have him tagged as "used SJW seriously" and its a trend among people who use the term SJW seriously that they have serious issues with either women, non white people, or homosexuals sometimes they only have issues with one group sometimes they hate all 3 groups but the point is they have based their belief system on hatred and anger that people care about issues that they dont He;s not even objecting to my correction of his username, which says a lot <cite>Hawaiian_punch posted [p:906056636] in DoJ launch... [t:76856787]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hawaiian_punch posted...</cite> <quote>KlanJohhny, why are you so happy about gay people getting denied services?</quote> i have him tagged as "used SJW seriously" and its a trend among people who use the term SJW seriously that they have serious issues with either women, non white people, or homosexuals sometimes they only have issues with one group sometimes they hate all 3 groups but the point is they have based their belief system on hatred and anger that people care about issues that they dont</quote> He;s not even objecting to my correction of his username, which says a lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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