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iPhone_7
07/29/18 3:12:49 PM
#52:


Trump constantly defends and makes excuses for the fringe part of his base, even retweeting things by them directly or indirectly.

neo-nazis are not fine people. people that march alongside neo-nazis are not fine people. people that march for statues of confederate leaders arent fine people.
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
07/29/18 3:14:05 PM
#53:


So it's just a lazy insult that can be applied by anyone to anyone who supports anyone? There's nothing that makes it exclusive to Trump? Someone can say the same to me regarding Obama?
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07/29/18 3:15:14 PM
#54:


Anteaterking posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Terrible people can feel empowered by a president? Thats never happened before!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xx0CTNg_Ik" data-time="


So in one setting, "terrible people" are people who vote for Obama because he "gives them free money".

And in the other "terrible people" is neo-nazis.

Maybe we're casting too wide of a net with the term terrible?


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Tropicalwood
07/29/18 3:20:00 PM
#56:


CrimsonRage posted...
i'm not a democrat

You see, they like to say stuff like this but it's heavily implied they vote Democrat each election.
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iPhone_7
07/29/18 3:25:35 PM
#57:


Wolf is a confederate flag/statue loving southerner.

Keep an eye out for whenever theres a topic about the civil war or confederate statues/flags. Or try to go back in time to when the Charlottesville stuff was happening.
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Tropicalwood
07/29/18 3:32:21 PM
#58:


iPhone_7 posted...
Trump constantly defends and makes excuses for the fringe part of his base, even retweeting things by them directly or indirectly.

neo-nazis are not fine people. people that march alongside neo-nazis are not fine people. people that march for statues of confederate leaders arent fine people.

This is just dumb, only a minority of the people were supporting the actions of the past, the rest didn't approve of fascists destroying history so nobody would learn from mistakes. This included black people btw.
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DarkTransient
07/29/18 3:36:40 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Amazing how the only defense anyone has is the both sides bullshit, only the neo Nazis have Trumps policies to back up their support of him and the other side is a made up boogeyman caused by a black man becoming president.


Meanwhile, the post literally right above you:

tommybel89 posted...
Oh wow, the group of 50 racists got emboldened! Membership is now 90 people! Wow, everything is happening!!!

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iPhone_7
07/29/18 3:37:56 PM
#61:


Tropicalwood posted...
This is just dumb, only a minority of the people in support of the actions of the past, the rest didn't approve of fascists destroying history so nobody would learn from mistakes. This included blacks people btw.


Thats not the purpose nor ever was the purpose of the confederate statues. Theres a reason why a lot of these statues went up during the Civil Rights Movement. Please lets not go over this for the hundredth time.
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iPhone_7
07/29/18 3:41:11 PM
#62:


shockthemonkey posted...
Its weird how you always come into topics like this and talk shit about the people who dont like Neo Nazis.

Im now remembering who this Tropical guy is.
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Tropicalwood
07/29/18 3:41:49 PM
#63:


iPhone_7 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
This is just dumb, only a minority of the people in support of the actions of the past, the rest didn't approve of fascists destroying history so nobody would learn from mistakes. This included blacks people btw.


Thats not the purpose nor ever was the purpose of the confederate statues. Theres a reason why a lot of these statues went up during the Civil Rights Movement. Please lets not go over this for the hundredth time.

You're calling everyone that protested destruction of monuments a neo-nazi, because you fail to see that rational people don't want history to be destroyed so later generations can learn from the mistakes of the past, instead of letting them be forgotten.
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The Great Muta 22
07/29/18 3:42:47 PM
#64:


Tropicalwood posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Trump constantly defends and makes excuses for the fringe part of his base, even retweeting things by them directly or indirectly.

neo-nazis are not fine people. people that march alongside neo-nazis are not fine people. people that march for statues of confederate leaders arent fine people.

This is just dumb, only a minority of the people were supporting the actions of the past, the rest didn't approve of fascists destroying history so nobody would learn from mistakes. This included black people btw.


Yes, as we all know, the only thing reminding us of the atrocities of the Confederacy assholes are the statues erected decades after the war was over, and that just happened to be constructed during time of civil right expansions.

Come the fuck on, you actually believe that bullshit?
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The Great Muta 22
07/29/18 3:44:14 PM
#65:


Tropicalwood posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
This is just dumb, only a minority of the people in support of the actions of the past, the rest didn't approve of fascists destroying history so nobody would learn from mistakes. This included blacks people btw.


Thats not the purpose nor ever was the purpose of the confederate statues. Theres a reason why a lot of these statues went up during the Civil Rights Movement. Please lets not go over this for the hundredth time.

You're calling everyone that protested destruction of monuments a neo-nazi, because you fail to see that rational people don't want history to be destroyed so later generations can learn from the mistakes of the past, instead of letting them be forgotten.


Hey, remember back when you openly embraced and identified with the alt-right and supported all their spokes people? Yah know, back before Charlottesville when shit got too real and you pretended you never had anything to do with them?
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Bat178
07/29/18 3:52:01 PM
#66:


Also, Greek mythology > Norse mythology.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
07/29/18 3:59:21 PM
#68:


CrimsonRage posted...
apocalyptic_4 posted...
Axiom posted...
dreamvoid posted...
I can tell you with certainty that since November 2016, activity has doubled, whether its feet on the street or money orders or people helping out,

To the surprise of literally no one


Only to the slurpers in denial still.


No slurpers are in denial. this is specifically why they like him. or is it a coincidence that accounts' whose gimmick was racist shitposting pre-Trump (southcoast, Capn Circus, Wolf_J_Flywheel) are fanatical Trump supporters.

Of course I am, hes single handily dragging this country kicking and screaming out of the shit hole the last two presidents left it in.
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Bio1590
07/29/18 4:01:25 PM
#69:


Bat178 posted...
Also, Greek mythology > Norse mythology.

Debatable
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UnfairRepresent
07/29/18 4:09:35 PM
#71:


Blue_Inigo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
This has always been a dumb point to me.

"hey Trump empowers Nazis because a Nazi said he likes Trump."

Ok Charlie, think of something you like and support.

Now what if I told you that a bunch of Nazis or pedophiles or Zelda fans or MS-13 members agreed with you and liked it too?

Do you now hate your thing due to assocation?

No.

Do you ever get tired of saying the dumbest shit?

Blue_Inigo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
This has always been a dumb point to me.

"hey Trump empowers Nazis because a Nazi said he likes Trump."

Ok Charlie, think of something you like and support.

Now what if I told you that a bunch of Nazis or pedophiles or Zelda fans or MS-13 members agreed with you and liked it too?

Do you now hate your thing due to assocation?

No.

Do you ever get tired of saying the dumbest shit?

"I have no counterpoint"

Error1355 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
E32005 posted...
i love how slurpers try to deny this fact.

wonder if our slurpers are "aligned" as well.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


of course they are. And many of those "aligned" slurpers are in the mod/admin team.

If a moderator said they aligned with Nazi/Neo-Nazi viewpoints they would be removed from the team.


You're either lying or being dishonest by being hyper literal and you know it.

A couple of moderators openly had far-right Neo-Nazi views and nothing happened to them.

Or is this one of these deals were you're just trying to goad people into quoting them and then suspend them for doing it?

Either way, poor show.
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Error1355
07/29/18 4:17:30 PM
#72:


UnfairRepresent posted...
A couple of moderators openly had far-right Neo-Nazi views and nothing happened to them.

You're 100% full of your normal boldface bullshit right there Unfair. Quit the bullshit. Thanks.
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UnfairRepresent
07/29/18 4:26:54 PM
#73:


Ah so I was right.

Ok then.

Not quoting a single person, see no quotes. I'm not saying any users ever said this. And I am certainly not saying some users said this over and over in various ways for years without consequence despite it being pointed out repeatly. Not at all.

but hypothetically would you claim:

Supporting the genocide of Palestinians
Forced relocation of "Deplorables"
End to the Jewish presence in global politics.
Defense of the rape of children.
Opposition to mixed race and homosexual couples.
Denial of the holocaust, both Jewish and Armenian.
Support of eugenics, specifically forced steralization.
Support for strict closed boarders.
Support of dictactorship and opposition to Democracy.

Are not or could not be conflated to be Nazi or Neo-Nazi views?

And he was never seen again.
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Blue_Inigo
07/29/18 4:37:59 PM
#74:


Why not name drop these supposed moderators? Keep pulling from your ass
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/29/18 4:40:18 PM
#75:


And UnfairRepresent was never seen again
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B0bSaget
07/29/18 4:41:34 PM
#76:


What does it matter? It doesnt make Trump a nazi. I agree that most insults related to his mental capacity are generally pretty fitting, but anyone who tries to make any actual parallels to Hitler is just insulting anyone actually suffered under the cruelty of that regime.
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Zikten
07/29/18 4:46:47 PM
#77:


I want people to know that simply worshipping the norse God's does not make one a Nazi. Usually ( but not always) a Nazi calls themselves and odinist while a non racist will call themselves a follower of Asatru

The norse God's are not racist. Nazis just decided to adopt them but that doesn't mean they have exclusive rights to the religion
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UnfairRepresent
07/29/18 4:50:06 PM
#78:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Why not name drop these supposed moderators?


Well I'm not claiming any user ever said anything. But hypothetically if you were to claim a user said something another user didn't want you to point out, you would be moderated instantly.

It's an old trick.

Hence why Error got so angry and defensive when I outsmarted him. And hence why the topic will be closed momentarily.

Everyone who has been on the board for a couple of years knows exactly who said what, including a certain user.

It's a stupid game of bullying basically.

B0bSaget posted...
What does it matter? It doesnt make Trump a nazi. I agree that most insults related to his mental capacity are generally pretty fitting, but anyone who tries to make any actual parallels to Hitler is just insulting anyone actually suffered under the cruelty of that regime.


I don't get it either.

Of all the legitimate reasons to hate Trump, "Some people who dislike him are big jerks!" is such a silly one.

It's like hating Dream On by Aerosmith because you heard Bill Cosby liked it.
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Error1355
07/29/18 4:50:31 PM
#79:


"And he was never seen again."

You fucking wish.

Now I know it's a waste of everyone's time to even try to debate something with you, so this isn't so much for you but other users reading the thread, because I honestly couldn't give less of a shit what a person who makes a gimmick out of posting the most contrarian bullshit around thinks about me or the mod staff.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Supporting the genocide of Palestinians

Forced relocation of "Deplorables"

End to the Jewish presence in global politics.

Defense of the rape of children.

Opposition to mixed race and homosexual couples.

Denial of the holocaust, both Jewish and Armenian.

Support of eugenics, specifically forced steralization.

Support for strict closed boarders.

Support of dictactorship and opposition to Democracy.

The four not-underlined examples doesn't really seem to fit what 'neo-nazi/nazi' as most people would think. Implying anyone who calls for a strict closed boarder is a nazi/neo-nazi is like saying anyone who likes Donald Trump is a Nazi. Sure there is probably some cross over where some Nazis might like Trump, but it doesn't mean everyone who likes Trump is a Nazi. Forced relocation of people is just an offensive thing in general that I would moderate, but I wouldn't directly assign that a Nazi viewpoint. And wishing for a dictatorship instead of democracy covers multiple different political opinions as well, and isn't inherently offensive or a neo-nazi/nazi viewpoint. Being racist and bigoted towards homosexual people is offensive but isn't also a nazi/neo-nazi exclusive idea.

Now the underlined results would be things if a moderator posted the lead mod staff would be immediately request that moderator's dismissal from the moderation team. For most of the underlined examples given there I would suspend their account until Allen viewed and demodded them right on the spot.
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Tropicalwood
07/29/18 4:54:11 PM
#81:


You saying Hitler wasn't a dictator? Or did you forget to cite that.
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UnfairRepresent
07/29/18 4:54:22 PM
#82:


On an unrelated note, I want to point out Error has insulted me in every post he has made.

I have not done the same, and If I spoke to him the way he speaks to me, I would be suspended instantly for blatant TOU violations. Just saying.

Error1355 posted...

The three not-underlined examples doesn't really seem to fit what 'neo-nazi/nazi' as most people would think. wishing for a dictatorship instead of democracy covers multiple different political opinions as well, and isn't inherently offensive or a neo-nazi/nazi viewpoint.

UnfairRepresent posted...
or being dishonest by being hyper literal and you know it.


Error1355 posted...

Now the underlined results would be things if a moderator posted the lead mod staff would be immediately request that moderators dismissal from the moderation team. For some of the examples given there I would suspend their account until Allen viewed and demodded them right on the spot.

Ok and hypothetically if that didn't happen for years, and hypotheically someone who was aware of that was pretending not to be and allegedly seemingly threatening anyone who pointed out otherwise,

What would you say to that person?
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Error1355
07/29/18 5:01:36 PM
#83:


UnfairRepresent posted...
On an unrelated note, I want to point out Error has insulted me in every post he has made.

Point out the flames. I only insulted your posts. Never you the person. Perfectly within the rules and exactly what we explain to people when they get moderated. Attack the post, not the user.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Ok and hypothetically if that didn't happen for years, and hypotheically someone who was aware of that was pretending not to be and allegedly seemingly threatening anyone who pointed out otherwise,

What would you say to that person?

Are you trying to imply that I know of a Neo-Nazi/Nazi on the staff but am covering for them?

You can go fuck right off.
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Ving_Rhames
07/29/18 5:03:04 PM
#84:


Tropicalwood posted...
Democrat buzzword for anyone that voted for Trump


Close, but it's a word for anyone that blindly defends and comes to Trumps defense on literally everything he says and does. If you or others happen to fall into that category, that's on you lol. Suckers gone suck.
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Mister_Spyker
07/29/18 5:07:50 PM
#85:


Just nuke that whole town.
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The Great Muta 22
07/29/18 5:09:01 PM
#86:


Tropicalwood posted...
You saying Hitler wasn't a dictator? Or did you forget to cite that.


I want to know why you avoided me calling you out on the Confederate statue bullshit. Do you honestly believe that removing them is going to cause people to forget the history of the Confederacy?
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UnfairRepresent
07/29/18 5:10:22 PM
#87:


Error1355 posted...

Point out the flames. I only insulted your posts. Never you the person. Perfectly within the rules and exactly what we explain to people when they get moderated. Attack the post, not the user.


You're 100% full of your normal boldface bullshit right there Unfair.
Now I know it's a waste of everyone's time to even try to debate something with you, so this isn't so much for you but other users reading the thread, because I honestly couldn't give less of a shit what a person who makes a gimmick out of posting the most contrarian bullshit around thinks about me or the mod staff.


Uhuh..

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/10-ask-the-mods/76844518
I like that you call me contrarian and then literally argue with yourself:

Error1355 posted...

Are you trying to imply that I know of a Neo-Nazi/Nazi on the staff but am covering for them?

You can go fuck right off.


See how come you won't answer the question.

If you seriously think I am lying or trolling or whatever, you wouldn't keep getting defensive, deflecting and insulting me.

But for the record, I believe if I posted direct quotes of users saying things you are denying occured, I would be moderated instantly. Considering I have flat out seen that happen to other users dozens of times and you are showing me 0 reason to believe why the same would not happen to me while you literally flame me and lie to me at the same time.

So answer the hypothetical. If someone who was a mod expressed such viewpoints openly for years, suffered no consequences and hypotheically someone who was aware of that was pretending not to be and allegedly seemingly threatening anyone who pointed out otherwise,

What would you say to that person? What would you expect someone else to say?

Don't insult me, don't flame or deflect, don't close the topic. Answer it.
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Zikten
07/29/18 5:11:19 PM
#88:


Like I said a day or 2 ago, Error should get a job working with Trump. Maybe replace Sarah Sanders. He has some real skill with what she does for Trump, he just does it for SBallen instead
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Blue_Inigo
07/29/18 5:14:04 PM
#89:


UnfairRepresent posted...
A couple of moderators openly had far-right Neo-Nazi views and nothing happened to them.


If youre gonna call someone out, dont coward out and pretend you didnt. It's stupid when your post is right there.

Namedrop these supposed moderators with neo nazi views
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iPhone_7
07/29/18 5:17:44 PM
#90:


Unfair I am a very smart guy Represent
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The Great Muta 22
07/29/18 5:21:52 PM
#91:


This topic getting good tbh
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Unknown860
07/29/18 6:27:21 PM
#93:


Bacon_Pancakes posted...
What the fuck. People need to just stop. Both sides need to cool the fuck down. Does anyone actually want a peaceful life or is that not good enough? jfc.

How can minorities have a peaceful life when they're being gundown by racists cops or white supremacists?
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P4wn4g3
07/29/18 6:28:31 PM
#94:


It was similar with W.Bush, except he wasn't openly racist and didn't actively campaign to purge non Arians, he mostly hated Mexicans cuz they wuz terkin' r jerbs, and you couldn't call the war on Iraq so much racist as much as capitalistic and taking advantage of 9/11 to clean up daddy's mess.

Trump does openly campaign under white master race though, so of course the worst elements are climbing into powerful positions while they have the opportunity.
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Annihilated
07/29/18 6:30:45 PM
#95:


Why does the left love nazis so much?
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Bio1590
07/29/18 6:35:07 PM
#96:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
This topic getting good tbh

Well Unfair is warned so it won't continue
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Blue_Inigo
07/29/18 6:36:57 PM
#97:


Lmao. His shitposting caught up with him
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nicklebro
07/29/18 6:40:37 PM
#98:


Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Terrible people can feel empowered by a president? Thats never happened before!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xx0CTNg_Ik" data-time="

So you consider all black people to be terrible? Lol you're not helping your cause bro.
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ledbowman
07/29/18 7:54:37 PM
#99:


This too cool, above it all, both sides fence-riding thing people are doing is looking weaker all the time.
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E32005
07/30/18 8:01:02 PM
#100:


KILBOTz posted...
I guess at the end of the day this article doesn't feel like one where WaPo did research and let that lead to the story, it feels like they had a story they wanted to tell and found a community that would let them tell it.

xD. so much deflection and denial. cowardly.l
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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/30/18 8:41:11 PM
#101:


Error1355 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
On an unrelated note, I want to point out Error has insulted me in every post he has made.

Point out the flames. I only insulted your posts. Never you the person. Perfectly within the rules and exactly what we explain to people when they get moderated. Attack the post, not the user.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Ok and hypothetically if that didn't happen for years, and hypotheically someone who was aware of that was pretending not to be and allegedly seemingly threatening anyone who pointed out otherwise,

What would you say to that person?

Are you trying to imply that I know of a Neo-Nazi/Nazi on the staff but am covering for them?

You can go fuck right off.


Missed this earlier. Point of reference into Unfair's psyche...

One time, I posting about wanting to "lightly slap trump in the face with a sausage, not enough to hurt him or cause injury, just enough to shame him a bit." (Pretty close to exact words. Definite exact words used: lightly, sausage, not hard enough to hurt/injure)

Unfair accused me later of having posted desires to commit violence against trump and when asked about this, his version of my words was that I "wanted to repeatedly beat trump with a cold hotdog violently until he was unconscious" and only acknowledged that the goal was "humiliation" after I called out every discrepancy in his manufactured fake version of events. He must deal with people with extremely poor memory if thinks that sort of nonsense works frequently enough to try.
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