Current Events > Farm groups go on anti-tariff blitz after Trump offers trade aid

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/26/farm-groups-anti-tariff-blitz-trade-aid-711958

Farm groups are going on the offensive with a multimillion-dollar advertising and advocacy campaign against President Donald Trumps tariffs just days after the administration rolled out a $12 billion bailout for farmers harmed by a mounting trade war.
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top 10 anime betrayals
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dey took our jeeeeerbs
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Drowning__Fish_ posted...

top 10 anime betrayals

XD
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"but we thought he was just going to hurt THOSE people, not us!"

At the very least they are seeing the error in their ways so I'll give them credit for that. hopefully it lasts.
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Squall28 posted...

Drowning__Fish_ posted...

top 10 anime betrayals

XD

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Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?
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Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

Because their inherent misogyny does not allow them to believe a woman should or could be president
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josifrees posted...

Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

Because their inherent misogyny does not allow them to believe a woman should or could be president

Gary Johnson bro!
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Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

People ignorantly vote against their best wishes all the time. most of them probably don't even understand what you said...and you could say it to them right now and they still wouldn't realize it because their preconceived notions outweigh any potential common sense.
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Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

you would also imagine a Farmer would vote for the party in favor of clean energy and saving the environment they need to grow their shit.
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Trumps America
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They voted for this.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

They voted for this.

Yep

Dug their stupid grave
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

you would also imagine a Farmer would vote for the party in favor of clean energy and saving the environment they need to grow their shit.

How does that own teh libs tho???
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Trump about to delete his FarmersOnly account in retaliation
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Trump about to delete his FarmersOnly account in retaliation

Lol
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12 billion bailout? Wtf is this about?

I thought welfare was bad.
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frozenshock posted...

12 billion bailout? Wtf is this about?

I thought welfare was bad.

Trumps America
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

People ignorantly vote against their best wishes all the time. most of them probably don't even understand what you said...and you could say it to them right now and they still wouldn't realize it because their preconceived notions outweigh any potential common sense.

Out of curiosity, do you think this applies to democrats too? I see the "people are too stupid to vote in their own best interests" line I lot, but it seems exclusively to be applied to republican voters.
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frozenshock posted...

12 billion bailout? Wtf is this about?

I thought welfare was bad.

consider the fact that we imposed tariffs that harmed those farmers, theoretically bringing in more money (mostly to spite other countries but you get the idea)...but now we're using more money to save those farmers that wouldn't have been affected if we didn't impose those tariffs to begin with. this is what our country has become...
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frozenshock posted...

12 billion bailout? Wtf is this about?

I thought welfare was bad.

Not if Trump needs to buy votes.
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E32005 posted...

frozenshock posted...

12 billion bailout? Wtf is this about?

I thought welfare was bad.

Trumps America

There are about 550,000 homeless people in the US.

12 billion dollars divided by 550,000 gives about 21,800 $

Enough to give housing to all homeless people in the US for at least 2, maybe even 3 years.

But let's just throw that taxpayer money at farmers to convince them to vote for Trump.
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s0nicfan posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Squall28 posted...

Anyone know what farmers side on with immigration? I would think that are in favor of it because they get so much cheap labor. Why would they even vote for Trump in the first place?

People ignorantly vote against their best wishes all the time. most of them probably don't even understand what you said...and you could say it to them right now and they still wouldn't realize it because their preconceived notions outweigh any potential common sense.

Out of curiosity, do you think this applies to democrats too? I see the "people are too stupid to vote in their own best interests" line I lot, but it seems exclusively to be applied to republican voters.

it definitely could but when we're talking about low to middle class workers it mostly applies to Republican voters. a guy like Bill Gates voting Democrat is technically voting against his best wishes but he's fine with, for example, paying more in taxes and creating more social programs. A random farmer in the South is being affected much more by voting Republican, and this is just one example.
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So Trump didn't think about how his tariffs would hurt American workers? Why am I not surprised.
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Good. For once, I want more and more of these tariffs to attack them. Show these fucking idiots what their vote bought.
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frozenshock posted...

E32005 posted...

frozenshock posted...

12 billion bailout? Wtf is this about?

I thought welfare was bad.

Trumps America

There are about 550,000 homeless people in the US.

12 billion dollars divided by 550,000 gives about 21,800 $

Enough to give housing to all homeless people in the US for at least 2, maybe even 3 years.

But let's just throw that taxpayer money at farmers to convince them to vote for Trump.

Yep
Sad huh?
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s0nicfan posted...

Out of curiosity, do you think this applies to democrats too? I see the "people are too stupid to vote in their own best interests" line I lot, but it seems exclusively to be applied to republican voters.

Most Republican policies disproportionately benefit the wealthy. It only applies to a small percentage of Democrats.
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"Farmers are the enemy of the public."
-Donald Trump, soon.
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Fake NEWS!!! Sadddd
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_BlueMonk posted...

"Farmers are the enemy of the public."
-Donald Trump, soon.

And the slurpers here will suddenly support that
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_BlueMonk posted...

"Farmers are the enemy of the public."
-Donald Trump, soon.

He needs them to win so I doubt he'll ever say anything like that
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I think discussion of "voting against their interests" is misguided; those people merely define their interests differently. The culture war bullshit offered by the GOP is every bit as material an interest to their voters as tax policy.
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Antifar posted...

I think discussion of "voting against their interests" is misguided; those people merely define their interests differently. The culture war bullshit offered by the GOP is every bit as material an interest to their voters as tax policy.

Facts state otherwise

Interests are one thing. Supporting someone destroying your job is another
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Lmao farmers are the real welfare queens. They already get subsidized now they need a bailout?
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SAD farmers protesting my generous bailout to them! Maybe if they worked harder, wouldn't need help!
Don't bite the hand that feeds or bailout may become a left out!
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Antifar posted...

I think discussion of "voting against their interests" is misguided; those people merely define their interests differently. The culture war bulls*** offered by the GOP is every bit as material an interest to their voters as tax policy.

Well put. A lot of people place a high value on abortion, or fiscal policy, or any other issue, and will swallow views they disagree with on one subject to support the issue they care most about.

There are definitely democrats who vote against their own interests--knowingly--and not just the super rich. I know many people who vote dem but do not agree with abortion, or do with abortion but not with social safety nets, etc.

To answer s0nicfan, yes, certainly, though not frequently in the way that was implied
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josifrees posted...

Lmao farmers are the real welfare queens. They already get subsidized now they need a bailout?

12 billion dollars is an absolutely insane amount of money
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Who knew terrifs would be so complicated


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frozenshock posted...

josifrees posted...

Lmao farmers are the real welfare queens. They already get subsidized now they need a bailout?

12 billion dollars is an absolutely insane amount of money

Right? Instead of doing this they could just..I dont know undo the stupid thing they did that caused this? Nah that would be stupid. Spend more money.
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Darkman124 posted...

Antifar posted...

I think discussion of "voting against their interests" is misguided; those people merely define their interests differently. The culture war bulls*** offered by the GOP is every bit as material an interest to their voters as tax policy.

Well put. A lot of people place a high value on abortion, or fiscal policy, or any other issue, and will swallow views they disagree with on one subject to support the issue they care most about.

There are definitely democrats who vote against their own interests--knowingly--and not just the super rich. I know many people who vote dem but do not agree with abortion, or do with abortion but not with social safety nets, etc.

To answer s0nicfan, yes, certainly, though not frequently in the way that was implied

exactly. i vote Democrat almost down the ballot but don't completely agree with every Democratic stance on every issue. gotta pick your battles.
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12 billion dollars aint shit
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TheVipaGTS posted...

frozenshock posted...

josifrees posted...

Lmao farmers are the real welfare queens. They already get subsidized now they need a bailout?

12 billion dollars is an absolutely insane amount of money

Right? Instead of doing this they could just..I dont know undo the stupid thing they did that caused this? Nah that would be stupid. Spend more money.

Party of fiscal responsibility
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

Darkman124 posted...

Antifar posted...

I think discussion of "voting against their interests" is misguided; those people merely define their interests differently. The culture war bulls*** offered by the GOP is every bit as material an interest to their voters as tax policy.

Well put. A lot of people place a high value on abortion, or fiscal policy, or any other issue, and will swallow views they disagree with on one subject to support the issue they care most about.

There are definitely democrats who vote against their own interests--knowingly--and not just the super rich. I know many people who vote dem but do not agree with abortion, or do with abortion but not with social safety nets, etc.

To answer s0nicfan, yes, certainly, though not frequently in the way that was implied

exactly. i vote Democrat almost down the ballot but don't completely agree with every Democratic stance on every issue. gotta pick your battles.

To add to this, I remember some research out of U Virginia by Dr Haidt (I think) which found Republicans tend to be MORE likely to vote on single issues, even if the candidates other views ran contrary to their own, than Democrats (voting simply on single issues)

Trump paying someone money after fucking them? That's how he rolls.
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Shit ... aren't rural communities like half of his principle voter base?