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weekoldhotdog 07/22/18 6:53:58 PM #1:	This is the change DC fans have been begging for, for years and yet 2018 is going to slip by and this still hasn't happened. Sign if you think this should be a thing. --- Y helo thar buttsecks <cite>weekoldhotdog posted [p:905541587] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>This is the change DC fans have been begging for, for years and yet 2018 is going to slip by and this still hasn't happened. Sign if you think this should be a thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/22/18 6:55:33 PM #2:	Remember when Andrew Garfield said his Peter Parker should be in a gay interracial relationship with a character played by Michael B Jordan? --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:905541662] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>Remember when Andrew Garfield said his Peter Parker should be in a gay interracial relationship with a character played by Michael B Jordan?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/22/18 6:56:59 PM #3:	People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905541729] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 07/22/18 6:57:46 PM #4:	why would we need u as batman --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:905541767] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>why would we need u as batman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 6:57:53 PM #5:	Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905541773] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 07/22/18 6:58:07 PM #6:	@Parappa09 --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/TAaXq7d https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:905541786] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>@Parappa09</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/22/18 6:58:37 PM #7:	Wouldn't be much worse than what we have right now tbh. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:905541828] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>Wouldn't be much worse than what we have right now tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/22/18 6:59:29 PM #8:	darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905541877] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 7:00:34 PM #9:	there have been 2 black batmen. look up Batwing. 2 men have been Batwing. both of them were black. the original is a guy from Africa that Batman selects to be the representative for africa in his Batman Incorporated program. and then he retires and the son of Lucious Fox takes over as the new Batwing. neither of them are gay though <cite>Zikten posted [p:905541927] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>there have been 2 black batmen. look up Batwing. 2 men have been Batwing. both of them were black. the original is a guy from Africa that Batman selects to be the representative for africa in his Batman Incorporated program. and then he retires and the son of Lucious Fox takes over as the new Batwing. neither of them are gay though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 7:01:34 PM #10:	Zikten posted... there have been 2 black batmen. look up Batwing. 2 men have been Batwing. both of them were black. the original is a guy from Africa that Batman selects to be the representative for africa in his Batman Incorporated program. and then he retires and the son of Lucious Fox takes over as the new Batwing. neither of them are gay though Batwing isn't Batman, though, so it doesn't count. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905541980] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>there have been 2 black batmen. look up Batwing. 2 men have been Batwing. both of them were black. the original is a guy from Africa that Batman selects to be the representative for africa in his Batman Incorporated program. and then he retires and the son of Lucious Fox takes over as the new Batwing. neither of them are gay though</quote> Batwing isn't Batman, though, so it doesn't count.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 7:02:16 PM #11:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905542019] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 7:02:43 PM #12:	he was promoted as "the batman of africa!" however when DC was marketing him <cite>Zikten posted [p:905542033] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>he was promoted as "the batman of africa!" however when DC was marketing him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 7:04:03 PM #13:	your gonna be waiting a LOOOOONG ass time if you want to replace Bruce Wayne. every single time Bruce has been replaced, fans throw a shit fit. nobody wants to replace Bruce Wayne. so if it has to be THE BATMAN, it's never gonna happen. and making Bruce Wayne black would not make sense either cause of the history of the family and the city. a super fucking goddamn rich as God family could never be black in Gotham city <cite>Zikten posted [p:905542099] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>your gonna be waiting a LOOOOONG ass time if you want to replace Bruce Wayne. every single time Bruce has been replaced, fans throw a shit fit. nobody wants to replace Bruce Wayne. so if it has to be THE BATMAN, it's never gonna happen. and making Bruce Wayne black would not make sense either cause of the history of the family and the city. a super fucking goddamn rich as God family could never be black in Gotham city</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 7:04:14 PM #14:	Zikten posted... he was promoted as "the batman of africa!" however when DC was marketing him I know that, but that isn't good enough for the SJW's who want a black Batman. They literally want Bruce Wayne to be rewritten as a black man, and strip all previous canon from existence. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905542108] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>he was promoted as "the batman of africa!" however when DC was marketing him</quote> I know that, but that isn't good enough for the SJW's who want a black Batman. They literally want Bruce Wayne to be rewritten as a black man, and strip all previous canon from existence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/22/18 7:04:25 PM #15:	darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons? That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905542121] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons?</quote> That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 07/22/18 7:05:07 PM #16:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? You mean the series that has had beloved non white and non male characters since it's inception? Could it be that the new characters just aren't very good? --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:905542150] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> You mean the series that has had beloved non white and non male characters since it's inception? Could it be that the new characters just aren't very good?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 7:06:09 PM #17:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons? That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin. Luke and Anakin actually learned to wield a lightsaber before their first duel, so no, they don't. Oh, and they both LOST duels against masters of the art. When has Rey lost at literally anything, despite having literally no training in the Force whatsoever? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905542199] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons?</quote> That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin.</quote> Luke and Anakin actually learned to wield a lightsaber before their first duel, so no, they don't. Oh, and they both LOST duels against masters of the art. When has Rey lost at literally anything, despite having literally no training in the Force whatsoever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 7:11:41 PM #18:	actually I thought about and, I wouldn't mind a black batman IF it was from an alternate universe. a retelling. I just don't want actual real Bruce Wayne replaced. make up another universe where he's black, and he could meet normal Bruce cause of the multiverse and everyone is happy. there already is a different universe black superman. he's even president. I just want to preserve the actual Batman. Earth 1 Bruce Wayne <cite>Zikten posted [p:905542454] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>actually I thought about and, I wouldn't mind a black batman IF it was from an alternate universe. a retelling. I just don't want actual real Bruce Wayne replaced. make up another universe where he's black, and he could meet normal Bruce cause of the multiverse and everyone is happy. there already is a different universe black superman. he's even president. I just want to preserve the actual Batman. Earth 1 Bruce Wayne</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 7:12:39 PM #19:	Zikten posted... actually I thought about and, I wouldn't mind a black batman IF it was from an alternate universe. a retelling. I just don't want actual real Bruce Wayne replaced. make up another universe where he's black, and he could meet normal Bruce cause of the multiverse and everyone is happy. there already is a different universe black superman. he's even president. I just want to preserve the actual Batman. Earth 1 Bruce Wayne Already exists. There's an actual alternate universe in the 52 where all the Original 7 are of African descent. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905542500] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>actually I thought about and, I wouldn't mind a black batman IF it was from an alternate universe. a retelling. I just don't want actual real Bruce Wayne replaced. make up another universe where he's black, and he could meet normal Bruce cause of the multiverse and everyone is happy. there already is a different universe black superman. he's even president. I just want to preserve the actual Batman. Earth 1 Bruce Wayne</quote> Already exists. There's an actual alternate universe in the 52 where all the Original 7 are of African descent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 7:13:00 PM #20:	well then there you go <cite>Zikten posted [p:905542519] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>well then there you go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 07/22/18 7:17:21 PM #21:	--- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:905542713] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueBoy675 07/22/18 7:18:42 PM #22:	"Fuck Batman." - Robin the Boy Wonder --- Hope rides alone <cite>BlueBoy675 posted [p:905542769] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>"Fuck Batman." - Robin the Boy Wonder</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/22/18 10:18:32 PM #23:	darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons? That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin. Luke and Anakin actually learned to wield a lightsaber before their first duel, so no, they don't. Oh, and they both LOST duels against masters of the art. When has Rey lost at literally anything, despite having literally no training in the Force whatsoever? Luke had about ten minutes training from a geriatric jedi and Anakin literally blew up an entire capital ship, outclassing the entire space force of Naboo, mostly by accident, despite the fact that he was 12 and had never left Tattooine before. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905553370] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons?</quote> That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin.</quote> Luke and Anakin actually learned to wield a lightsaber before their first duel, so no, they don't. Oh, and they both LOST duels against masters of the art. When has Rey lost at literally anything, despite having literally no training in the Force whatsoever?</quote> Luke had about ten minutes training from a geriatric jedi and Anakin literally blew up an entire capital ship, outclassing the entire space force of Naboo, mostly by accident, despite the fact that he was 12 and had never left Tattooine before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 07/22/18 10:33:59 PM #24:	DirkDiggles posted... The hero that Gotham needs right now. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:905554105] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> The hero that Gotham needs right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 07/22/18 10:44:45 PM #25:	Dash_Harber posted... mostly by accident See that's the key word there that is different from Rey. Oh and how nice of you to gloss over the fact that Luke and Anakin both lost to others while Rey just happen to win against Kyo despite him being trained by both Luke and that sith master guy and that she literally had no force or saber training. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:905554537] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>mostly by accident</quote> See that's the key word there that is different from Rey. Oh and how nice of you to gloss over the fact that Luke and Anakin both lost to others while Rey just happen to win against Kyo despite him being trained by both Luke and that sith master guy and that she literally had no force or saber training.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/22/18 10:47:30 PM #26:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Star Wars? Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons? That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin. Luke and Anakin actually learned to wield a lightsaber before their first duel, so no, they don't. Oh, and they both LOST duels against masters of the art. When has Rey lost at literally anything, despite having literally no training in the Force whatsoever? Luke had about ten minutes training from a geriatric jedi and Anakin literally blew up an entire capital ship, outclassing the entire space force of Naboo, mostly by accident, despite the fact that he was 12 and had never left Tattooine before. Luke had far more than "ten minutes of training" before his first lightsaber duel (hint - that was at Cloud City). And the first lightsaber duel we see Anakin have was also at the end of the second movie his character was in. Rey had never wielded a lightsaber IN HER LIFE before she pwned Ben. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905554667] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Star Wars?</quote> Let me rephrase - when did they make new characters that were panned for illegitimate reasons?</quote> That's called moving the goal posts. The criticisms against Rey also work against Luke. They also are arguably even more applicable to Anakin.</quote> Luke and Anakin actually learned to wield a lightsaber before their first duel, so no, they don't. Oh, and they both LOST duels against masters of the art. When has Rey lost at literally anything, despite having literally no training in the Force whatsoever?</quote> Luke had about ten minutes training from a geriatric jedi and Anakin literally blew up an entire capital ship, outclassing the entire space force of Naboo, mostly by accident, despite the fact that he was 12 and had never left Tattooine before.</quote> Luke had far more than "ten minutes of training" before his first lightsaber duel (hint - that was at Cloud City). And the first lightsaber duel we see Anakin have was also at the end of the second movie his character was in. Rey had never wielded a lightsaber IN HER LIFE before she pwned Ben.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/22/18 10:55:35 PM #27:	darkjedilink posted... Luke had far more than "ten minutes of training" before his first lightsaber duel (hint - that was at Cloud City). And the first lightsaber duel we see Anakin have was also at the end of the second movie his character was in. Rey had never wielded a lightsaber IN HER LIFE before she pwned Ben. In Anakin's first movie, he wins a high speed death race and then blows up a capital ship accidentally that turns the tide in the war against the trade federation because he's literally Force Christ. Luke is appointed leader of Rogue Squadron, the rebel's top fighter pilots, despite the fact that he has never flown before and never left Tattooine, where he blows up the Death Star by guiding a torpedo 80km through a vent into the core with the force (despite the fact that this was before he could even lift up rocks). At least in Rey's case, she has some justifications. First, she actually was shown to have martial arts experience right off the bat with her bo staff and given that she was a survivalist on Jakku. Second, her fight against Kylo Ren was after Kylo tanked an explosive plasma bolt to the torso, and Kylo was specifically instructed not to kill her (and was aggravating his wound by punching it because he was throwing a tantrum). I'm not saying she's a good character, but she is absolutely no worse than Luke or Anakin. Especially Anakin. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905555016] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Luke had far more than "ten minutes of training" before his first lightsaber duel (hint - that was at Cloud City). And the first lightsaber duel we see Anakin have was also at the end of the second movie his character was in. Rey had never wielded a lightsaber IN HER LIFE before she pwned Ben.</quote> In Anakin's first movie, he wins a high speed death race and then blows up a capital ship accidentally that turns the tide in the war against the trade federation because he's literally Force Christ. Luke is appointed leader of Rogue Squadron, the rebel's top fighter pilots, despite the fact that he has never flown before and never left Tattooine, where he blows up the Death Star by guiding a torpedo 80km through a vent into the core with the force (despite the fact that this was before he could even lift up rocks). At least in Rey's case, she has some justifications. First, she actually was shown to have martial arts experience right off the bat with her bo staff and given that she was a survivalist on Jakku. Second, her fight against Kylo Ren was after Kylo tanked an explosive plasma bolt to the torso, and Kylo was specifically instructed not to kill her (and was aggravating his wound by punching it because he was throwing a tantrum). I'm not saying she's a good character, but she is absolutely no worse than Luke or Anakin. Especially Anakin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weekoldhotdog 07/22/18 11:02:17 PM #28:	gay black batman leads to untrained luke skywalker discussion. WTF?! --- Y helo thar buttsecks <cite>weekoldhotdog posted [p:905555306] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>gay black batman leads to untrained luke skywalker discussion. WTF?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 6:28:36 AM #29:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Luke had far more than "ten minutes of training" before his first lightsaber duel (hint - that was at Cloud City). And the first lightsaber duel we see Anakin have was also at the end of the second movie his character was in. Rey had never wielded a lightsaber IN HER LIFE before she pwned Ben. In Anakin's first movie, he wins a high speed death race and then blows up a capital ship accidentally that turns the tide in the war against the trade federation because he's literally Force Christ. Luke is appointed leader of Rogue Squadron, the rebel's top fighter pilots, despite the fact that he has never flown before and never left Tattooine, where he blows up the Death Star by guiding a torpedo 80km through a vent into the core with the force (despite the fact that this was before he could even lift up rocks). At least in Rey's case, she has some justifications. First, she actually was shown to have martial arts experience right off the bat with her bo staff and given that she was a survivalist on Jakku. Second, her fight against Kylo Ren was after Kylo tanked an explosive plasma bolt to the torso, and Kylo was specifically instructed not to kill her (and was aggravating his wound by punching it because he was throwing a tantrum). I'm not saying she's a good character, but she is absolutely no worse than Luke or Anakin. Especially Anakin. Luke wasn't even on Rogue Squadron in ANH. He was on Red Squadron, and wasn't the leader. I'm beginning to think you've never seen Star Wars, bruh. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905567796] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Luke had far more than "ten minutes of training" before his first lightsaber duel (hint - that was at Cloud City). And the first lightsaber duel we see Anakin have was also at the end of the second movie his character was in. Rey had never wielded a lightsaber IN HER LIFE before she pwned Ben.</quote> In Anakin's first movie, he wins a high speed death race and then blows up a capital ship accidentally that turns the tide in the war against the trade federation because he's literally Force Christ. Luke is appointed leader of Rogue Squadron, the rebel's top fighter pilots, despite the fact that he has never flown before and never left Tattooine, where he blows up the Death Star by guiding a torpedo 80km through a vent into the core with the force (despite the fact that this was before he could even lift up rocks). At least in Rey's case, she has some justifications. First, she actually was shown to have martial arts experience right off the bat with her bo staff and given that she was a survivalist on Jakku. Second, her fight against Kylo Ren was after Kylo tanked an explosive plasma bolt to the torso, and Kylo was specifically instructed not to kill her (and was aggravating his wound by punching it because he was throwing a tantrum). I'm not saying she's a good character, but she is absolutely no worse than Luke or Anakin. Especially Anakin.</quote> Luke wasn't even on Rogue Squadron in ANH. He was on Red Squadron, and wasn't the leader. I'm beginning to think you've never seen Star Wars, bruh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 07/23/18 6:39:57 AM #30:	...so we need a black luke skywalker that sees his parents being killed as a kid, and then uses the force to be the best martial arts detective in the universe while dressing up as a Darth Vader bat? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:905568011] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>...so we need a black luke skywalker that sees his parents being killed as a kid, and then uses the force to be the best martial arts detective in the universe while dressing up as a Darth Vader bat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/23/18 3:26:00 PM #31:	darkjedilink posted... Luke wasn't even on Rogue Squadron in ANH. He was on Red Squadron, and wasn't the leader. You are right, my mistake. darkjedilink posted... I'm beginning to think you've never seen Star Wars, bruh. Yeah, totally. I just happened to be right when I summed up the rest of the plots. >_> Seriously, that doesn't really change the fact that a farmboy with zero flying experience showed up at Rebel HQ and they were like, "Okay, so we have this super secret insanely important mission. You seem like just the sort of farmboy we are looking for. Here is one of our important spacecraft. Have fun!" and then he went on to use the force to guide a torpedo 80km down a narrow shaft to blow up the Death Star. Also doesn't change the fact that Anakin was waaaaaaay worse. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905589117] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Luke wasn't even on Rogue Squadron in ANH. He was on Red Squadron, and wasn't the leader.</quote> You are right, my mistake. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I'm beginning to think you've never seen Star Wars, bruh.</quote> Yeah, totally. I just happened to be right when I summed up the rest of the plots. >_> Seriously, that doesn't really change the fact that a farmboy with zero flying experience showed up at Rebel HQ and they were like, "Okay, so we have this super secret insanely important mission. You seem like just the sort of farmboy we are looking for. Here is one of our important spacecraft. Have fun!" and then he went on to use the force to guide a torpedo 80km down a narrow shaft to blow up the Death Star. Also doesn't change the fact that Anakin was waaaaaaay worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corman321 07/23/18 3:32:12 PM #32:	He should be half black and half Iranian and also have been born a girl, and he was adopted by abusive white parents who made her feel small, so after they were shot she felt a new chance at life and transitioned into a man, and now as Batman he will take down anyone who reminds him of those awful adoptive parents as he also searches for his real parents <cite>Corman321 posted [p:905589419] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>He should be half black and half Iranian and also have been born a girl, and he was adopted by abusive white parents who made her feel small, so after they were shot she felt a new chance at life and transitioned into a man, and now as Batman he will take down anyone who reminds him of those awful adoptive parents as he also searches for his real parents</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 07/23/18 3:34:23 PM #33:	You must have military education to join the rebels? The ones filled with other farmers, like Luke's farmer friend? Heey, we got more ships than we got pilots, perhaps throwing in every body we got might raise our chances to survive and defeat the Empire? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:905589523] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>You must have military education to join the rebels? The ones filled with other farmers, like Luke's farmer friend? Heey, we got more ships than we got pilots, perhaps throwing in every body we got might raise our chances to survive and defeat the Empire?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 07/23/18 3:34:42 PM #34:	DirkDiggles posted... How...how do people have shit like this for these topics --- There will always be exceptions. <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:905589542] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote></quote> How...how do people have shit like this for these topics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 07/23/18 3:46:12 PM #36:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... Luke wasn't even on Rogue Squadron in ANH. He was on Red Squadron, and wasn't the leader. You are right, my mistake. darkjedilink posted... I'm beginning to think you've never seen Star Wars, bruh. Yeah, totally. I just happened to be right when I summed up the rest of the plots. >_> Seriously, that doesn't really change the fact that a farmboy with zero flying experience showed up at Rebel HQ and they were like, "Okay, so we have this super secret insanely important mission. You seem like just the sort of farmboy we are looking for. Here is one of our important spacecraft. Have fun!" and then he went on to use the force to guide a torpedo 80km down a narrow shaft to blow up the Death Star. Also doesn't change the fact that Anakin was waaaaaaay worse. 'Zero flight experience...' So, his Incom T-16 Skyhopper, that the Incom T-65 X-Wing was based off of, doesn't count? You know, the one he used to bullseye Womp Rats back home? You know, the one he used to fly down Beggar's Canyon, racing Biggs Darklighter? He mentioned it a few times. He even told Han 'I'm not such a bad pilot myself.' The fact is, you haven't been 'right' about the Oridge Tridge in any way. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905590093] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Luke wasn't even on Rogue Squadron in ANH. He was on Red Squadron, and wasn't the leader.</quote> You are right, my mistake. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I'm beginning to think you've never seen Star Wars, bruh.</quote> Yeah, totally. I just happened to be right when I summed up the rest of the plots. >_> Seriously, that doesn't really change the fact that a farmboy with zero flying experience showed up at Rebel HQ and they were like, "Okay, so we have this super secret insanely important mission. You seem like just the sort of farmboy we are looking for. Here is one of our important spacecraft. Have fun!" and then he went on to use the force to guide a torpedo 80km down a narrow shaft to blow up the Death Star. Also doesn't change the fact that Anakin was waaaaaaay worse.</quote> 'Zero flight experience...' So, his Incom T-16 Skyhopper, that the Incom T-65 X-Wing was based off of, doesn't count? You know, the one he used to bullseye Womp Rats back home? You know, the one he used to fly down Beggar's Canyon, racing Biggs Darklighter? He mentioned it a few times. He even told Han 'I'm not such a bad pilot myself.' The fact is, you haven't been 'right' about the Oridge Tridge in any way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/23/18 6:43:52 PM #37:	darkjedilink posted... So, his Incom T-16 Skyhopper, that the Incom T-65 X-Wing was based off of, doesn't count? You know, the one he used to bullseye Womp Rats back home? So we are just going to gloss over the fact that low altitude vehicles are not interchangeable with space fighters? "Man, Billy can really drive that truck. Let's give him the keys to an F-16 and see what he can do". Not to mention the fact that Rey is explicitly shown being skilled with a staff weapon in some form of martial art. Why is that experience negligible but a throwaway line about Luke piloting an airspeeder is justification for him to be a literal ace pilot? darkjedilink posted... The fact is, you haven't been 'right' about the Oridge Tridge in any way. ... He still used the force after one road trip worth of training to guide a torpedo down a vent at insane speeds while being fired upon by literally the best pilot in the galaxy. Or how about how he has intergalactic telepathy after training with Yoda? Or how about when he is able to shoot down multiple enemy fighters the first time he's ever sat in a turret? And seriously, why do you keep pretending Anakin wasn't even worse? Again, won a pod race because he was psychic, disabled an entire army by out classing the entirety of Naboo's best pilots in a strike on the Trade Federation capital ship, gets admitted to the academy despite the entire council saying no and the grandmaster successfully predicting he would destroy them all, and makes a noble woman twice his age fall in love with him. This all happened when he was 11, and a slave with zero training. Again, I think I need to carify. I'm not saying they are bad characters, I'm saying that Rey is no different from the heroes of the last two trilogies and that's okay because Star Wars has always had poorly written, paper thin characters and it's just nostalgia that blinds people to any other option. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905599615] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>So, his Incom T-16 Skyhopper, that the Incom T-65 X-Wing was based off of, doesn't count? You know, the one he used to bullseye Womp Rats back home?</quote> So we are just going to gloss over the fact that low altitude vehicles are not interchangeable with space fighters? "Man, Billy can really drive that truck. Let's give him the keys to an F-16 and see what he can do". Not to mention the fact that Rey is explicitly shown being skilled with a staff weapon in some form of martial art. Why is that experience negligible but a throwaway line about Luke piloting an airspeeder is justification for him to be a literal ace pilot? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The fact is, you haven't been 'right' about the Oridge Tridge in any way.</quote> ... He still used the force after one road trip worth of training to guide a torpedo down a vent at insane speeds while being fired upon by literally the best pilot in the galaxy. Or how about how he has intergalactic telepathy after training with Yoda? Or how about when he is able to shoot down multiple enemy fighters the first time he's ever sat in a turret? And seriously, why do you keep pretending Anakin wasn't even worse? Again, won a pod race because he was psychic, disabled an entire army by out classing the entirety of Naboo's best pilots in a strike on the Trade Federation capital ship, gets admitted to the academy despite the entire council saying no and the grandmaster successfully predicting he would destroy them all, and makes a noble woman twice his age fall in love with him. This all happened when he was 11, and a slave with zero training. Again, I think I need to carify. I'm not saying they are bad characters, I'm saying that Rey is no different from the heroes of the last two trilogies and that's okay because Star Wars has always had poorly written, paper thin characters and it's just nostalgia that blinds people to any other option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wannabepranksta 07/23/18 6:50:28 PM #38:	We need a straight Asian male lead in a high budget romance film. --- shut up and take my money <cite>wannabepranksta posted [p:905599921] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>We need a straight Asian male lead in a high budget romance film.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 7:02:07 PM #39:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... So, his Incom T-16 Skyhopper, that the Incom T-65 X-Wing was based off of, doesn't count? You know, the one he used to bullseye Womp Rats back home? So we are just going to gloss over the fact that low altitude vehicles are not interchangeable with space fighters? "Man, Billy can really drive that truck. Let's give him the keys to an F-16 and see what he can do". Not to mention the fact that Rey is explicitly shown being skilled with a staff weapon in some form of martial art. Why is that experience negligible but a throwaway line about Luke piloting an airspeeder is justification for him to be a literal ace pilot? What part of "they literally designed the X-wing so that people who could fly the T-16 could fly it" do you not understand? Also, you aren't thinking that the T-16 was his airspeeder, do you? As for Rey, do I really need to link to a shit-ton of sources showing how a staff and a sword are not the same? darkjedilink posted... The fact is, you haven't been 'right' about the Oridge Tridge in any way. ... He still used the force after one road trip worth of training to guide a torpedo down a vent at insane speeds while being fired upon by literally the best pilot in the galaxy. Or how about how he has intergalactic telepathy after training with Yoda? Or how about when he is able to shoot down multiple enemy fighters the first time he's ever sat in a turret? And seriously, why do you keep pretending Anakin wasn't even worse? Again, won a pod race because he was psychic, disabled an entire army by out classing the entirety of Naboo's best pilots in a strike on the Trade Federation capital ship, gets admitted to the academy despite the entire council saying no and the grandmaster successfully predicting he would destroy them all, and makes a noble woman twice his age fall in love with him. This all happened when he was 11, and a slave with zero training. Again, I think I need to carify. I'm not saying they are bad characters, I'm saying that Rey is no different from the heroes of the last two trilogies and that's okay because Star Wars has always had poorly written, paper thin characters and it's just nostalgia that blinds people to any other option. He ALREADY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT SHOT. What part of "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16" do you not fucking understand? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905600502] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>So, his Incom T-16 Skyhopper, that the Incom T-65 X-Wing was based off of, doesn't count? You know, the one he used to bullseye Womp Rats back home?</quote> So we are just going to gloss over the fact that low altitude vehicles are not interchangeable with space fighters? "Man, Billy can really drive that truck. Let's give him the keys to an F-16 and see what he can do". Not to mention the fact that Rey is explicitly shown being skilled with a staff weapon in some form of martial art. Why is that experience negligible but a throwaway line about Luke piloting an airspeeder is justification for him to be a literal ace pilot?</quote> What part of "they literally designed the X-wing so that people who could fly the T-16 could fly it" do you not understand? Also, you aren't thinking that the T-16 was his airspeeder, do you? As for Rey, do I really need to link to a shit-ton of sources showing how a staff and a sword are not the same? <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>The fact is, you haven't been 'right' about the Oridge Tridge in any way.</quote> ... He still used the force after one road trip worth of training to guide a torpedo down a vent at insane speeds while being fired upon by literally the best pilot in the galaxy. Or how about how he has intergalactic telepathy after training with Yoda? Or how about when he is able to shoot down multiple enemy fighters the first time he's ever sat in a turret? And seriously, why do you keep pretending Anakin wasn't even worse? Again, won a pod race because he was psychic, disabled an entire army by out classing the entirety of Naboo's best pilots in a strike on the Trade Federation capital ship, gets admitted to the academy despite the entire council saying no and the grandmaster successfully predicting he would destroy them all, and makes a noble woman twice his age fall in love with him. This all happened when he was 11, and a slave with zero training. Again, I think I need to carify. I'm not saying they are bad characters, I'm saying that Rey is no different from the heroes of the last two trilogies and that's okay because Star Wars has always had poorly written, paper thin characters and it's just nostalgia that blinds people to any other option.</quote> He ALREADY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT SHOT. What part of "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16" do you not fucking understand?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dib153 07/23/18 7:06:46 PM #40:	darkjedilink posted... Dash_Harber posted... People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect" When did they make 'new' characters that were panned? Riri Williams So widely derided they brought Tony back from the dead --- "Dib is my new hero. Epic insult man, epic to the max" ~ Drakona <cite>dib153 posted [p:905600732] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>People's anger over changing characters is ridiculous. It usually goes something like this; "Don't change our characters! I can't relate to this new design! Just make new characters for those groups!" They make new characters "Don't force diversity in you casts! Those characters were obvious just added to pander to those groups!" Character is well received by everyone else "The character actually is super poorly written and their story doesn't make sense and here is a 52 minute Youtube video telling you why they suck and the earlier characters were perfect"</quote> When did they make 'new' characters that were panned?</quote> Riri Williams So widely derided they brought Tony back from the dead</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tamashiini 07/23/18 7:07:51 PM #41:	I would watch the shit out of a gay black batman --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. <cite>tamashiini posted [p:905600781] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>I would watch the shit out of a gay black batman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/23/18 7:30:54 PM #42:	darkjedilink posted... What part of "they literally designed the X-wing so that people who could fly the T-16 could fly it" do you not understand? Also, you aren't thinking that the T-16 was his airspeeder, do you? No, I was thinking it was this; http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-16_skyhopper Which, in case you didn't know, is classed as an air speeder. Repulsorlift and everything darkjedilink posted... As for Rey, do I really need to link to a shit-ton of sources showing how a staff and a sword are not the same? Do I need a shit ton of sources showing that flight in atmosphere is completely different than out of atmosphere? At least the staff and the lightsaber would both benefit from the same conditioning. darkjedilink posted... He ALREADY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT SHOT. What part of "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16" do you not fucking understand? ... Okay, so he could shoot a creature on the surface with an airspeeder at airspeeder speeds (likely with a targetting system), and that somehow means that he could make an impossible shot, by using the force, then guide said torpedo to the core of the station, through about 80km, avoiding all possible debris and blockages, while under fire from literally the most elite pilots in the galaxy and some of the most dangerous defenses, because he believed in himself? Nope, not a Mary Sue at all. And, I'll ask again, why won't you comment on Anakin? Is it because you know I'm right about that and you have nothing to say? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905601998] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> What part of "they literally designed the X-wing so that people who could fly the T-16 could fly it" do you not understand? Also, you aren't thinking that the T-16 was his airspeeder, do you?</quote> No, I was thinking it was this; http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-16_skyhopper Which, in case you didn't know, is classed as an air speeder. Repulsorlift and everything <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> As for Rey, do I really need to link to a shit-ton of sources showing how a staff and a sword are not the same?</quote> Do I need a shit ton of sources showing that flight in atmosphere is completely different than out of atmosphere? At least the staff and the lightsaber would both benefit from the same conditioning. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> He ALREADY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT SHOT. What part of "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16" do you not fucking understand?</quote> ... Okay, so he could shoot a creature on the surface with an airspeeder at airspeeder speeds (likely with a targetting system), and that somehow means that he could make an impossible shot, by using the force, then guide said torpedo to the core of the station, through about 80km, avoiding all possible debris and blockages, while under fire from literally the most elite pilots in the galaxy and some of the most dangerous defenses, because he believed in himself? Nope, not a Mary Sue at all. And, I'll ask again, why won't you comment on Anakin? Is it because you know I'm right about that and you have nothing to say?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 07/23/18 7:33:37 PM #43:	I'm actually down for this, for the backlash really. --- http://darkvisionsofterror.bandcamp.com/ https://imgur.com/e7sCCSb http://i.imgtc.com/AlmbdTG49T.jpg <cite>VTBM posted [p:905602152] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>I'm actually down for this, for the backlash really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 7:52:52 PM #44:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... What part of "they literally designed the X-wing so that people who could fly the T-16 could fly it" do you not understand? Also, you aren't thinking that the T-16 was his airspeeder, do you? No, I was thinking it was this; http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-16_skyhopper Which, in case you didn't know, is classed as an air speeder. Repulsorlift and everything darkjedilink posted... As for Rey, do I really need to link to a shit-ton of sources showing how a staff and a sword are not the same? Do I need a shit ton of sources showing that flight in atmosphere is completely different than out of atmosphere? At least the staff and the lightsaber would both benefit from the same conditioning. darkjedilink posted... He ALREADY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT SHOT. What part of "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16" do you not fucking understand? ... Okay, so he could shoot a creature on the surface with an airspeeder at airspeeder speeds (likely with a targetting system), and that somehow means that he could make an impossible shot, by using the force, then guide said torpedo to the core of the station, through about 80km, avoiding all possible debris and blockages, while under fire from literally the most elite pilots in the galaxy and some of the most dangerous defenses, because he believed in himself? Nope, not a Mary Sue at all. And, I'll ask again, why won't you comment on Anakin? Is it because you know I'm right about that and you have nothing to say? I won't comment on Anakin because - -you're wrong about everything you've posted and refuse to back down, doubling down on stupidity -Anakin is literally fathered by the Force, so his powers make sense in-universe You still won't even admit that Rey has yet to fail at ANYTHING, but consider Anakin, a guy who lost literally all of his limbs, a Mary Sue. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905603186] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> What part of "they literally designed the X-wing so that people who could fly the T-16 could fly it" do you not understand? Also, you aren't thinking that the T-16 was his airspeeder, do you?</quote> No, I was thinking it was this; http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/T-16_skyhopper Which, in case you didn't know, is classed as an air speeder. Repulsorlift and everything <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> As for Rey, do I really need to link to a shit-ton of sources showing how a staff and a sword are not the same?</quote> Do I need a shit ton of sources showing that flight in atmosphere is completely different than out of atmosphere? At least the staff and the lightsaber would both benefit from the same conditioning. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> He ALREADY WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT SHOT. What part of "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16" do you not fucking understand?</quote> ... Okay, so he could shoot a creature on the surface with an airspeeder at airspeeder speeds (likely with a targetting system), and that somehow means that he could make an impossible shot, by using the force, then guide said torpedo to the core of the station, through about 80km, avoiding all possible debris and blockages, while under fire from literally the most elite pilots in the galaxy and some of the most dangerous defenses, because he believed in himself? Nope, not a Mary Sue at all. And, I'll ask again, why won't you comment on Anakin? Is it because you know I'm right about that and you have nothing to say?</quote> I won't comment on Anakin because - -you're wrong about everything you've posted and refuse to back down, doubling down on stupidity -Anakin is literally fathered by the Force, so his powers make sense in-universe You still won't even admit that Rey has yet to fail at ANYTHING, but consider Anakin, a guy who lost literally all of his limbs, a Mary Sue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/23/18 7:58:23 PM #45:	darkjedilink posted... -you're wrong about everything you've posted and refuse to back down, doubling down on stupidity Except where you pointed out that he wasn't in Rouge Squadron and I apologized and agreed with you. darkjedilink posted... -Anakin is literally fathered by the Force, so his powers make sense in-universe And Rey is literally being guided by the force and the ghosts of several Jedi masters including Yoda and Obi-Wan. If you are going to resort to 'because the Force' you can make the exact same arguments for every single hero in the entire franchise, including Rey. darkjedilink posted... You still won't even admit that Rey has yet to fail at ANYTHING, but consider Anakin, a guy who lost literally all of his limbs, a Mary Sue. Anakin didn't lose all his limbs until the last ten minutes of the third movie he was in, and even then, he actually came back pretty much just as powerful (if less agile). That was literally ten years after the 11 year old Anakin single handedly took down a Trade Federation capital ship, won a pod race because he was psychic, conned his way into the Jedi Academy, and made the queen of another world fall in love with him despite being twice his age. Also, Rey pretty hardcore failed to stop Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi, so ... Again, I'm not defending Rey so much as pointing out that all the characters are Mary Sues. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905603453] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>-you're wrong about everything you've posted and refuse to back down, doubling down on stupidity</quote> Except where you pointed out that he wasn't in Rouge Squadron and I apologized and agreed with you. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>-Anakin is literally fathered by the Force, so his powers make sense in-universe</quote> And Rey is literally being guided by the force and the ghosts of several Jedi masters including Yoda and Obi-Wan. If you are going to resort to 'because the Force' you can make the exact same arguments for every single hero in the entire franchise, including Rey. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You still won't even admit that Rey has yet to fail at ANYTHING, but consider Anakin, a guy who lost literally all of his limbs, a Mary Sue.</quote> Anakin didn't lose all his limbs until the last ten minutes of the third movie he was in, and even then, he actually came back pretty much just as powerful (if less agile). That was literally ten years after the 11 year old Anakin single handedly took down a Trade Federation capital ship, won a pod race because he was psychic, conned his way into the Jedi Academy, and made the queen of another world fall in love with him despite being twice his age. Also, Rey pretty hardcore failed to stop Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi, so ... Again, I'm not defending Rey so much as pointing out that all the characters are Mary Sues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 8:01:57 PM #46:	Dash_Harber posted... darkjedilink posted... -you're wrong about everything you've posted and refuse to back down, doubling down on stupidity Except where you pointed out that he wasn't in Rouge Squadron and I apologized and agreed with you. darkjedilink posted... -Anakin is literally fathered by the Force, so his powers make sense in-universe And Rey is literally being guided by the force and the ghosts of several Jedi masters including Yoda and Obi-Wan. If you are going to resort to 'because the Force' you can make the exact same arguments for every single hero in the entire franchise, including Rey. darkjedilink posted... You still won't even admit that Rey has yet to fail at ANYTHING, but consider Anakin, a guy who lost literally all of his limbs, a Mary Sue. Anakin didn't lose all his limbs until the last ten minutes of the third movie he was in, and even then, he actually came back pretty much just as powerful (if less agile). That was literally ten years after the 11 year old Anakin single handedly took down a Trade Federation capital ship, won a pod race because he was psychic, conned his way into the Jedi Academy, and made the queen of another world fall in love with him despite being twice his age. Also, Rey pretty hardcore failed to stop Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi, so ... Again, I'm not defending Rey so much as pointing out that all the characters are Mary Sues. Care to link to Rey being guided by Force Ghosts? Wasn't in any of the movies. Rey has no business being able to fight Kylo in any way, and there is no canon explanation for someone who's never flown ANYTHING to be an expert pilot, and someone who's never used a sword to be an expert lightsaber duelist. There IS in-universe explanations for literally everything you've complained about Anakin and Luke for, though - not the least of which being you don't know a God-damned thing about Star Wars. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905603643] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>-you're wrong about everything you've posted and refuse to back down, doubling down on stupidity</quote> Except where you pointed out that he wasn't in Rouge Squadron and I apologized and agreed with you. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>-Anakin is literally fathered by the Force, so his powers make sense in-universe</quote> And Rey is literally being guided by the force and the ghosts of several Jedi masters including Yoda and Obi-Wan. If you are going to resort to 'because the Force' you can make the exact same arguments for every single hero in the entire franchise, including Rey. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You still won't even admit that Rey has yet to fail at ANYTHING, but consider Anakin, a guy who lost literally all of his limbs, a Mary Sue.</quote> Anakin didn't lose all his limbs until the last ten minutes of the third movie he was in, and even then, he actually came back pretty much just as powerful (if less agile). That was literally ten years after the 11 year old Anakin single handedly took down a Trade Federation capital ship, won a pod race because he was psychic, conned his way into the Jedi Academy, and made the queen of another world fall in love with him despite being twice his age. Also, Rey pretty hardcore failed to stop Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi, so ... Again, I'm not defending Rey so much as pointing out that all the characters are Mary Sues.</quote> Care to link to Rey being guided by Force Ghosts? Wasn't in any of the movies. Rey has no business being able to fight Kylo in any way, and there is no canon explanation for someone who's never flown ANYTHING to be an expert pilot, and someone who's never used a sword to be an expert lightsaber duelist. There IS in-universe explanations for literally everything you've complained about Anakin and Luke for, though - not the least of which being you don't know a God-damned thing about Star Wars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 07/23/18 8:08:50 PM #47:	darkjedilink posted... Care to link to Rey being guided by Force Ghosts? Wasn't in any of the movies. http://ew.com/article/2015/12/20/jj-abrams-reveals-obi-wan-and-yoda-are-star-wars-force-awakens/ In TFA she is guided by visions to find Luke, which also include voice snippets from Yoda and Obi-Wan. darkjedilink posted... Rey has no business being able to fight Kylo in any way, She didn't, though. He was basically mortally wounded and instructed not to kill her. He's also not a very good duelist to begin with, relying mostly on the force. darkjedilink posted... and there is no canon explanation for someone who's never flown ANYTHING to be an expert pilot Again, airspeeder=/space fighter. It doesn't matter how much you don't want it to be true. It's like saying someone who is a good pilot would instantly be able to fly a space shuttle. Oh, and Anakin never had a throwaway line about having an airspeeder back home. darkjedilink posted... and someone who's never used a sword to be an expert lightsaber duelist. She was a better martial artist than Luke right off the bat. darkjedilink posted... There IS in-universe explanations for literally everything you've complained about Anakin and Luke for, though Yeah, 'The Force did it and the EU says so" are your only reasons, and again, those still fucking apply to Rey. darkjedilink posted... not the least of which being you don't know a God-damned thing about Star Wars. Who fucking hurt you? You can't have a discussion without flying off the handle? Is Star Wars sacred to you or something? Did Rey kill your family during production of the film? What is your fucking problem that you feel so threatened you have to just start insulting people and ignoring every point anyone makes that disagrees with you. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:905604078] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Care to link to Rey being guided by Force Ghosts? Wasn't in any of the movies.</quote> http://ew.com/article/2015/12/20/jj-abrams-reveals-obi-wan-and-yoda-are-star-wars-force-awakens/ In TFA she is guided by visions to find Luke, which also include voice snippets from Yoda and Obi-Wan. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Rey has no business being able to fight Kylo in any way,</quote> She didn't, though. He was basically mortally wounded and instructed not to kill her. He's also not a very good duelist to begin with, relying mostly on the force. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>and there is no canon explanation for someone who's never flown ANYTHING to be an expert pilot</quote> Again, airspeeder=/space fighter. It doesn't matter how much you don't want it to be true. It's like saying someone who is a good pilot would instantly be able to fly a space shuttle. Oh, and Anakin never had a throwaway line about having an airspeeder back home. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>and someone who's never used a sword to be an expert lightsaber duelist. </quote> She was a better martial artist than Luke right off the bat. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>There IS in-universe explanations for literally everything you've complained about Anakin and Luke for, though</quote> Yeah, 'The Force did it and the EU says so" are your only reasons, and again, those still fucking apply to Rey. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>not the least of which being you don't know a God-damned thing about Star Wars.</quote> Who fucking hurt you? You can't have a discussion without flying off the handle? Is Star Wars sacred to you or something? Did Rey kill your family during production of the film? What is your fucking problem that you feel so threatened you have to just start insulting people and ignoring every point anyone makes that disagrees with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 07/23/18 8:12:49 PM #48:	no, but not because it would be bad for batman to be cast as a black person. but because only light skin contrasts well with the black color of batman's suit --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:905604332] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote>no, but not because it would be bad for batman to be cast as a black person. but because only light skin contrasts well with the black color of batman's suit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 07/23/18 8:25:11 PM #49:	Dash_Harber posted... Who fucking hurt you? You can't have a discussion without flying off the handle? Is Star Wars sacred to you or something? Did Rey kill your family during production of the film? What is your fucking problem that you feel so threatened you have to just start insulting people and ignoring every point anyone makes that disagrees with you. It isn't that you 'disagree.' It's that you're ignorant of what happened in the movies by such a blatant degree, and using that ignorance to form an opinion. When you're then shown you're wrong, you double-down on it. For example, you still forget that Anakin only won ONE lightsaber duel shown on-screen - he lost his hand in the first one, and was saved by Yoda. He got revenge, then lost AGAIN to Kenobi. THAT IS NOT A MARY-SUE. MARY-SUE CHARACTERS DON'T LOSE. Luke was worse - lost to a remote in training, missed most of the TIE's he shot at, failed repeatedly under Yoda's tutelage, lost to Vader and lost a hand in the process, had a crisis of faith, and let himself be manipulated by the Dark Side for most of Return. THAT IS NOT A MARY-SUE. MARY-SUE CHARACTERS DON'T FAIL. Name ONE time Rey lost or failed. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:905605032] in We need a ... [t:76832260]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Who fucking hurt you? You can't have a discussion without flying off the handle? Is Star Wars sacred to you or something? Did Rey kill your family during production of the film? What is your fucking problem that you feel so threatened you have to just start insulting people and ignoring every point anyone makes that disagrees with you.</quote> It isn't that you 'disagree.' It's that you're ignorant of what happened in the movies by such a blatant degree, and using that ignorance to form an opinion. When you're then shown you're wrong, you double-down on it. For example, you still forget that Anakin only won ONE lightsaber duel shown on-screen - he lost his hand in the first one, and was saved by Yoda. He got revenge, then lost AGAIN to Kenobi. THAT IS NOT A MARY-SUE. MARY-SUE CHARACTERS DON'T LOSE. Luke was worse - lost to a remote in training, missed most of the TIE's he shot at, failed repeatedly under Yoda's tutelage, lost to Vader and lost a hand in the process, had a crisis of faith, and let himself be manipulated by the Dark Side for most of Return. THAT IS NOT A MARY-SUE. MARY-SUE CHARACTERS DON'T FAIL. Name ONE time Rey lost or failed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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