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AlephZero 07/19/18 12:20:14 PM #1: |
"Abolish ICE" seems to be a growing rallying cry among progressives, but I haven't seen anyone talk about what happens after that. Is their plan to abolish ICE and not replace it with anything or delegate their responsibilities to a different agency? "Abolish ICE" makes for a catchy slogan to put on posters but it's a little light on details. I could get behind "abolish ICE and roll up their important responsibilities to the FBI" or something similar but that doesn't fit on a t-shirt. Like a number of federal agencies ICE is a terribly run organization that occasionally accomplishes something important.
Admittedly I haven't spent much time looking for these details so they could be out there. Are there lawmakers calling for ICE to be dissolved that have proposed a detailed plan on how to accomplish it? --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/19/18 12:20:39 PM #2: |
Replace it
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BLAKUboy 07/19/18 12:21:17 PM #3: |
The plan, as I've heard it, is to indeed shift their responsibilities to other agencies.
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Omnislasher 07/19/18 12:22:25 PM #4: |
uh abolish ICE and the FBI and re-establish the INS
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Master_Bass 07/19/18 12:22:29 PM #5: |
I imagine to the way things were before 2003.
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AlephZero 07/19/18 12:28:11 PM #7: |
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Replace it BLAKUboy posted... The plan, as I've heard it, is to indeed shift their responsibilities to other agencies. Master_Bass posted... I imagine to the way things were before 2003. I'm wondering if one of the lawmakers proposing abolishing ICE has a concrete plan or legislation. Not "presumably," "as I've heard it," or "I imagine." Something concrete. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/19/18 12:32:57 PM #10: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
yeah, like with Obamacare, right? this is exactly what a strawman looks like CE i want you to take a look --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 07/19/18 12:34:27 PM #11: |
AlephZero posted...
I'm wondering if one of the lawmakers proposing abolishing ICE has a concrete plan or legislation. Not "presumably," "as I've heard it," or "I imagine." Something concrete. Almost every interview I;ve seen where AOC has talked about it she talks about replacing it with an agency like INS under the auspices of the DOJ rather than DHS --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 07/19/18 12:35:50 PM #12: |
They believe that trump will just throw his hands up and say, okay, you win. No more borders!
Then he will step down and somehow Hillary and Bernie will be placed in power. Thats what they think. --- Member of The Fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 07/19/18 12:39:48 PM #13: |
No more borders I keep saying reps saying that this is what dems want, but I've literally seen no dem in power say they want open borders. --- When a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, they call her a slut, but when a guy does it, they call him gay. ~ Antifar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 07/19/18 12:40:55 PM #15: |
Balrog0 posted...
AlephZero posted...I'm wondering if one of the lawmakers proposing abolishing ICE has a concrete plan or legislation. Not "presumably," "as I've heard it," or "I imagine." Something concrete. Thank you, this is what I was looking for. --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BLAKUboy 07/19/18 12:41:20 PM #16: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
No more borders Mostly because ICE has nothing to do with the border. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 07/19/18 12:42:53 PM #17: |
Open borders
Free healthcare Free education Free housing Free food Free drugs Free phones More taxes Shit and needles on the streets and circus parades. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/19/18 12:43:48 PM #18: |
Payzmaykr posted...
They believe that trump will just throw his hands up and say, okay, you win. No more borders! No one thinks this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/19/18 12:47:42 PM #19: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
No more borders That's because hysteria is so high that Democrats are afraid of being clear on what limits they want to enforce on immigration, lest they be compared to Trump, or even worse, called racists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 07/19/18 12:55:49 PM #22: |
who posted
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Paper_Okami 07/19/18 12:59:15 PM #24: |
ice should be abolished and not replaced
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ledbowman 07/19/18 1:00:00 PM #25: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
No more borders It's all they have. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 07/19/18 1:01:05 PM #26: |
Abolishing ICE is not the right move. It serves a purpose beyond going after illegals. If seems the people on the left who want to abolish it don't understand that.
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Paper_Okami 07/19/18 1:03:34 PM #27: |
creativerealms posted...
Abolishing ICE is not the right move. It serves a purpose beyond going after illegals. If seems the people on the left who want to abolish it don't understand that. we know what its purpose is, we simply don't agree with it --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/19/18 1:03:40 PM #28: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Open borders See also: ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 07/19/18 1:05:06 PM #29: |
imagine quoting a joke person like Margaret thatcher
there is a reason few brits respect her --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 07/19/18 1:05:16 PM #30: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
s*** and needles on the streets They've already got that in progressive San Francisco. Got so bad a major convention that brings millions to the city each year just pulled out due to safety concerns/cleanliness and is looking for a new city (theyve been going to SF for years) --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 07/19/18 1:05:51 PM #31: |
Capn Circus posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...s*** and needles on the streets Yeah I seen the videos. Fucking disgusting. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 07/19/18 1:06:29 PM #32: |
Paper_Okami posted...
creativerealms posted...Abolishing ICE is not the right move. It serves a purpose beyond going after illegals. If seems the people on the left who want to abolish it don't understand that. You don't agree with an agency that deals with human tracking (including little kids for pedophiles) and drug trafficking between country boarders? That is what ICE should be focusing. To each their own. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 07/19/18 1:07:24 PM #33: |
creativerealms posted...
Paper_Okami posted...creativerealms posted...Abolishing ICE is not the right move. It serves a purpose beyond going after illegals. If seems the people on the left who want to abolish it don't understand that. That is very little of what it does lmao imagine believing the trump administration's lies --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 07/19/18 1:08:20 PM #34: |
Paper_Okami posted...
creativerealms posted...Paper_Okami posted...creativerealms posted...Abolishing ICE is not the right move. It serves a purpose beyond going after illegals. If seems the people on the left who want to abolish it don't understand that. Yeah which needs to change. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhanJohnny 07/19/18 3:42:10 PM #35: |
shockthemonkey posted...
KhanJohnny posted...Phantom_Nook posted...No more borders What are my lies? I'm neither a Republican nor Trump supporter if that's what you're implying. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tappor 07/19/18 3:53:28 PM #37: |
hopefully after "abolish ICE" comes "abolish CE"
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KhanJohnny 07/19/18 3:54:17 PM #38: |
shockthemonkey posted...
KhanJohnny posted...shockthemonkey posted...KhanJohnny posted...Phantom_Nook posted...No more borders I voted for Obama and Hillary lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/19/18 3:59:33 PM #40: |
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BLAKUboy 07/19/18 4:00:21 PM #41: |
GOATTHlEF posted...
I think they should focus on drugs and child trafficking like they used to instead of the current shitshow wailmer. I don't think we need ICE for either of those things. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 07/19/18 4:01:25 PM #42: |
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MedzXVIII 07/19/18 4:02:36 PM #43: |
Replace it with a wall
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