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REMercsChamp
07/17/18 6:54:37 PM
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https://www.salon.com/2018/01/29/amazon-is-a-21st-century-digital-chain-gang_partner/

Beneath this high-tech sheen, however, the online retailer and tech giant engages in labor practices that provoke comparisons to a 19th-century sweatshop. The company routinely pays wages barely above the poverty line, while using intrusive surveillance systems to monitor the workforce, fence them in with elaborate rules, set target times for their warehouse journeys, and then measure whether targets were met. All of this information is made available to management in real time, and if Amazons employee-athletes fall behind schedule, they receive a Big Brother-like text message pushing them to reach their targets or suffer the consequences. Failure to do so is met with a three strikes and release discipline system being a euphemism for getting sacked.
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Burgess
07/17/18 6:56:26 PM
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Eh it was just about the same when I was working for a Walmart distribution center and it wasn't that bad.
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Kazi1212
07/17/18 6:57:14 PM
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Meanwhile, Amazon stock hits all time high
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kinetika_
07/17/18 6:59:40 PM
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The job I do is worse. At least these people get benefits and vacation time. And I bet their warehouses have AC... mine does not and I live in Texas.
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REMercsChamp
07/17/18 7:01:01 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
At least these people get benefits and vacation time

They don't in reality because they'll be fired long before they get to use it
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REMercsChamp
07/17/18 7:03:33 PM
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Burgess posted...
Eh it was just about the same when I was working for a Walmart distribution center and it wasn't that bad.

>Works modern day slave labor
>"It's not that bad"
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Burgess
07/17/18 7:04:08 PM
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It's also nowhere near slave labor.
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kinetika_
07/17/18 7:04:09 PM
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Then they can go find another job? Doesn't refute my point that they get those things and I dont.
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mario2000
07/17/18 7:05:12 PM
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how dare management want to know if their target goals are being met
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Burgess
07/17/18 7:05:42 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
Then they can go find another job? Doesn't refute my point that they get those things and I dont.


No they can't because they are slaves they applied for the jobs and choose to work there massa gots me workin
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legendary_zell
07/17/18 7:06:28 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
Then they can go find another job? Doesn't refute my point that they get those things and I dont.


Shouldn't you be mad at your employer, not minimizing the practices of another crappy employer? I don't understand this mindset. It's what keep everyone down.
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myzz7
07/17/18 7:06:41 PM
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So what is the problem when fully rational adults consent to work and aren't forced to stay? I assume AMAZON is following all safety regulations by OSHA anyway so..... what's the problem here?
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iPhone_7
07/17/18 7:07:05 PM
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Two day shipping worth it
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apocalyptic_4
07/17/18 7:07:25 PM
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In Ontario they pay 25cents above the minimum wage...

You would have to be a fool to voluntarily work there. Other warehouse jobs pay that much for temps and 20plus a hour full time.

I dont feel bad for Amazon workers it's a shot company to work for go look for a better job it's out there.
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Serious Cat
07/17/18 7:10:13 PM
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Stopped feeling bad when I read they get two 30 minute lunches over a 10 hour shift.
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rexcrk
07/17/18 7:10:24 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Two day shipping worth it

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pogo_rabid
07/17/18 7:11:11 PM
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I can't wait for automation to take over so we don't have to hear about people getting worked like this.
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Burgess
07/17/18 7:11:55 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
I can't wait for automation to take over so we don't have to hear about people getting worked like this.


Robot rights son
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pogo_rabid
07/17/18 7:13:40 PM
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Burgess posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
I can't wait for automation to take over so we don't have to hear about people getting worked like this.


Robot rights son

If we start giving robots right, when are they gonna give my washing machine rights?
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pogo_rabid
07/17/18 7:14:44 PM
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Spooking posted...
The dream of paying them $30 an hour, full benefits, 3 months vacation and only working 30 hours a week will NEVER become a reality. They will soon be replaced by machines that will do a much better job. Then, you'll be making $0 an hour, no benefits, 0 months vacation and working 0 hours a week.

Maybe then i'll finally get same day shipping on more stuff >_>
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Funkydog
07/17/18 7:15:10 PM
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The fact people are so ready to dismiss the plight of others because "they have it bad as well" or "could be worse" is just astounding. It is why massive companies continue to make everyone else suffer and reap the profits for themselves. No good comes from allowing greedy corporations to grow on the back of human suffering.

But hey, I guess as long as other people are suffering just like you it's all okay.
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Burgess
07/17/18 7:17:05 PM
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Funkydog posted...
The fact people are so ready to dismiss the plight of others because "they have it bad as well" or "could be worse" is just astounding. It is why massive companies continue to make everyone else suffer and reap the profits for themselves. No good comes from allowing greedy corporations to grow on the back of human suffering.

But hey, I guess as long as other people are suffering just like you it's all okay.


I get my shit cheap and quick so good is coming and so am I.
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kinetika_
07/17/18 7:21:11 PM
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Conflict posted...
kinetika_ posted...
Then they can go find another job? Doesn't refute my point that they get those things and I dont.


"Just get another job, bro"


I did, and I went from $250 a week to $1500 a week. Worked for me.. bro.
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ultimate reaver
07/17/18 7:30:27 PM
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Funkydog posted...
The fact people are so ready to dismiss the plight of others because "they have it bad as well" or "could be worse" is just astounding. It is why massive companies continue to make everyone else suffer and reap the profits for themselves. No good comes from allowing greedy corporations to grow on the back of human suffering.

But hey, I guess as long as other people are suffering just like you it's all okay.


people really, really like to have their throat shit down by corporations
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KamenRiderBlade
07/17/18 7:32:10 PM
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Or you can live by your principles and refuse to shop at Amazon if you dislike their Sweatshop Labor Practices so much.
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kingdrake2
07/17/18 7:33:52 PM
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rexcrk posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Two day shipping worth it


i had to pay for 1 day shipping because i didn't want my stuff to be sent by usps. at least there was one plus. no broken finn the human figure. would of had to wait till monday if i didn't spend the 8$.
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Delta_F14
07/17/18 7:34:19 PM
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lol just stop being poor bro.
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rexcrk
07/17/18 7:35:04 PM
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kinetika_ posted...
Conflict posted...
kinetika_ posted...
Then they can go find another job? Doesn't refute my point that they get those things and I dont.


"Just get another job, bro"


I did, and I went from $250 a week to $1500 a week. Worked for me.. bro.

How? Like what kind of work is it and do you have free time and such?
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MedzXVIII
07/17/18 7:35:51 PM
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Unionize. It is the workers rights guarantied in the United States Constitution. Obviously this only applies to workers in the United States.
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Serious Cat
07/17/18 10:14:22 PM
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Funkydog posted...
No good comes from allowing greedy corporations to grow on the back of human suffering.

Or as I call it, having a job.
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Kineth
07/17/18 10:16:15 PM
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Businesses must be desperate if they're releasing all these hit pieces on Amazon.
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Funkydog
07/18/18 6:22:48 AM
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Serious Cat posted...
Funkydog posted...
No good comes from allowing greedy corporations to grow on the back of human suffering.

Or as I call it, having a job.

Exactly what I mean. People are so desperate to be shat on, they then put others down who don't want to be pushed into the mud.
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ManBeast462
07/18/18 6:28:26 AM
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Barely above poverty wages are still $15 or more lmao
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pinky0926
07/18/18 6:29:23 AM
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Cancelled my prime over this nonsense a while back
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Jiek_Fafn
07/18/18 6:35:54 AM
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This is standard a warehouse/distribution center environment. People seem to be freaking out because they never knew.

With that said, it would be in Amazon's employees best interest to form a union and bargain for better conditions. Whining about it is just being a crybaby. It's not Amazon's fault that you're too stupid to do what plenty of other work forces have done.
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I is smart
07/18/18 6:39:30 AM
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intrusive surveillance systems to monitor the workforce


You mean to tell me that a shipping company that handles millions of dollars worth of other people's property uses security cameras?! I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
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Ryetoast
07/18/18 6:39:39 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
This is standard a warehouse/distribution center environment. People seem to be freaking out because they never knew.

With that said, it would be in Amazon's employees best interest to form a union and bargain for better conditions. Whining about it is just being a crybaby. It's not Amazon's fault that you're too stupid to do what plenty of other work forces have done.


Might be in the contract that you cant unionize.
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Funkydog
07/18/18 6:39:52 AM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
This is standard a warehouse/distribution center environment. People seem to be freaking out because they never knew.

With that said, it would be in Amazon's employees best interest to form a union and bargain for better conditions. Whining about it is just being a crybaby. It's not Amazon's fault that you're too stupid to do what plenty of other work forces have done.

Amazon keeps stopping them from doing so, all over the world.

Shutting down their places of work, hiring lawyers and so on. This includes shutting them down in America btw.
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Rika_Furude
07/18/18 7:02:41 AM
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meanwhile amazon cant manage a successful launch in australia
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/18/18 7:14:14 AM
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Didn't read

Is it any different from UPS/FedEx/etc. or are they just learning about this phenomenon?
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ArchiePeck
07/18/18 7:20:19 AM
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I mean, this sounds like what most bottom rung unskilled jobs are like. Get some actual skills that are a) in demand and b) not immediately replaceable by any random person off the street.
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Funkydog
07/18/18 7:21:49 AM
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ArchiePeck posted...
I mean, this sounds like what most bottom rung unskilled jobs are like. Get some actual skills that are a) in demand and b) not immediately replaceable by any random person off the street.

Why does that excuse inhumane treatment?

Even basic jobs shouldn't treat you like a robot.
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Ryetoast
07/18/18 7:25:32 AM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Didn't read

Is it any different from UPS/FedEx/etc. or are they just learning about this phenomenon?


FedEX isnt too bad..but that could be because the people I've talked to work out of a small hub.
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deupd_u
07/18/18 7:27:23 AM
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BREAKING: Softie millennial "news" writers with pink hair find out how warehouses work, are horrified
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OpShaft
07/18/18 7:30:16 AM
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I worked at amazon for a while before going into IT. Best warehouse job I've had. Great starting pay for warehouse(double the minimum wage here), benefits, super laid back, climate controlled, great coworkers and teamwork, etc.

I could keep going. I'd go back if I needed something.
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l Dudeboy l
07/18/18 7:30:20 AM
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- Doesn't pay taxes
- Treats warehouse staff like crap
- Delivery drivers are so overworked they don't even have time to use the toilet.

Yet amazon is accepted as a 'good' company because they have decent customer service, some TV shows and the occasional sale.
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