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joestarrr 07/12/18 1:16:17 PM #1:	https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/07/rule-making-legal-ban-gays-lesbians-adopting-passes-house-committee/ The House Appropriations Committee on Wednesday passed an amendment allowing taxpayer-funded adoption agencies to deny LGBTQ families the ability to adopt a child based on religious objection. The amendment appears on a funding bill for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education. If it remains in the final bill, the amendment would cut 15% of federal adoption funding to states and localities that penalize adoption agencies that refuse to place children in families that conflict with the agencys sincerely held religious beliefs or convictions. The amendment also bars the federal government from refusing to work with adoption agencies that discriminate. The vote in the committee was 29-23, along party lines, with Rep. Scott Taylor (R-VA) the lone Republican to vote against the amendment. House Republicans are pandering to their far-right base at the expense of LGBTQ people and children in need of a home, said Democratic National Committee (DNC) LGBTQ Media Director Lucas Acosta. Rather than focusing on empowering families or uniting children with their parents, Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee voted to give child welfare agencies a license to discriminate against qualified potential parents. Acosta added, Across the country, LGBTQ candidates are running for office and taking a stand against the Trump-GOP agenda, which seeks to roll back the progress we have made. In November, voters will stand together in the face of this bigotry and hate and elect Democrats up and down the ticket. In addition to LGBTQ people and same-sex couples, the amendment would also impact interfaith couples, single parents, married couples in which one prospective parent has previously been divorced, or other qualified parents to whom an agency could have an objection. well yikes --- you can't spell american dream without eric andre <cite>joestarrr posted [p:904949511] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/07/rule-making-legal-ban-gays-lesbians-adopting-passes-house-committee/ The House Appropriations Committee on Wednesday passed an amendment allowing taxpayer-funded adoption agencies to deny LGBTQ families the ability to adopt a child based on religious objection. The amendment appears on a funding bill for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education. If it remains in the final bill, the amendment would cut 15% of federal adoption funding to states and localities that penalize adoption agencies that refuse to place children in families that conflict with the agencys sincerely held religious beliefs or convictions. The amendment also bars the federal government from refusing to work with adoption agencies that discriminate. The vote in the committee was 29-23, along party lines, with Rep. Scott Taylor (R-VA) the lone Republican to vote against the amendment. House Republicans are pandering to their far-right base at the expense of LGBTQ people and children in need of a home, said Democratic National Committee (DNC) LGBTQ Media Director Lucas Acosta. Rather than focusing on empowering families or uniting children with their parents, Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee voted to give child welfare agencies a license to discriminate against qualified potential parents. Acosta added, Across the country, LGBTQ candidates are running for office and taking a stand against the Trump-GOP agenda, which seeks to roll back the progress we have made. In November, voters will stand together in the face of this bigotry and hate and elect Democrats up and down the ticket. In addition to LGBTQ people and same-sex couples, the amendment would also impact interfaith couples, single parents, married couples in which one prospective parent has previously been divorced, or other qualified parents to whom an agency could have an objection. well yikes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 07/12/18 1:17:40 PM #2:	I wonder if the children awaiting adoption have a conviction exemption to these policies, as they're forced to adhere to the rules and convictions of others <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:904949604] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if the children awaiting adoption have a conviction exemption to these policies, as they're forced to adhere to the rules and convictions of others</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/12/18 1:17:50 PM #3:	"God wills it" --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904949613] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>"God wills it"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 07/12/18 1:18:16 PM #4:	Someone needs to do something about all these conservatives. They need to be stopped. >:( --- Pic of my gf and me: https://imgur.com/gallery/blAC3 King K. Rool supporter for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:904949633] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>Someone needs to do something about all these conservatives. They need to be stopped. >:(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 07/12/18 1:19:17 PM #6:	Republicans are such shitty people --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:904949691] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>Republicans are such shitty people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 07/12/18 1:20:32 PM #7:	both sides --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:904949767] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>both sides</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 07/12/18 1:20:36 PM #8:	but trump said he was the most lgbt-friendly president ever, did you see him hold the rainbow flag??? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:904949770] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>but trump said he was the most lgbt-friendly president ever, did you see him hold the rainbow flag???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davyheinz 07/12/18 1:20:52 PM #9:	Imagine fucking over kids so you can virtue signal with your religion Well, no need, its reality in America, of all places --- Currently playing: Strider, Jet Force Gemini, Psychonauts, Final Fantasy III, Red Dead Redemption <cite>davyheinz posted [p:904949781] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>Imagine fucking over kids so you can virtue signal with your religion Well, no need, its reality in America, of all places</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abyssea 07/12/18 1:21:39 PM #10:	Fine, into the welfare system they go then. --- https://imgur.com/F2h5rw2 <cite>Abyssea posted [p:904949817] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>Fine, into the welfare system they go then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tamashiini 07/12/18 1:22:30 PM #11:	Blue_Inigo posted... Republicans are such shitty people --- PSN: helicene Careful, Icarus. <cite>tamashiini posted [p:904949856] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Republicans are such shitty people</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/12/18 1:22:44 PM #12:	It also punishes states that refuse to let adoption agencies discriminate on sexuality. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:904949869] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>It also punishes states that refuse to let adoption agencies discriminate on sexuality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 07/12/18 1:22:45 PM #13:	I forgot how many religions have "gay people should not be allowed to adopt" as a major tenant of their beliefs. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:904949872] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>I forgot how many religions have "gay people should not be allowed to adopt" as a major tenant of their beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon 07/12/18 1:22:57 PM #14:	same shit. both. sides. <cite>Alphamon posted [p:904949883] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>same shit. both. sides.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:23:22 PM #15:	joestarrr posted... taxpayer-funded adoption agencies Why should that even exist? At all? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904949902] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>joestarrr posted...</cite> <quote>taxpayer-funded adoption agencies</quote> Why should that even exist? At all?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 07/12/18 1:24:17 PM #16:	A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate knowledge a man would also provide. It has nothing to do with sexuality. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:904949957] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate knowledge a man would also provide. It has nothing to do with sexuality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 07/12/18 1:24:27 PM #17:	billcom6 posted... I forgot how many religions have "gay people should not be allowed to adopt" as a major tenant of their beliefs. Fuck religion, all it does is hurt people. --- Pic of my gf and me: https://imgur.com/gallery/blAC3 King K. Rool supporter for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:904949963] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote>I forgot how many religions have "gay people should not be allowed to adopt" as a major tenant of their beliefs.</quote> Fuck religion, all it does is hurt people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/12/18 1:24:53 PM #18:	iClockwork posted... A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate wisdom. It has nothing to do with sexuality. Shut the fuck up with this tired ol bullshit. At least be clever for once with your trolling. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904949987] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate wisdom. It has nothing to do with sexuality.</quote> Shut the fuck up with this tired ol bullshit. At least be clever for once with your trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 07/12/18 1:24:58 PM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... joestarrr posted... taxpayer-funded adoption agencies Why should that even exist? At all? Ma'am, do you realize that you're unironically implying that adoption should be handled exclusively by private interests? --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:904949991] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>joestarrr posted...</cite> <quote>taxpayer-funded adoption agencies</quote> Why should that even exist? At all?</quote> Ma'am, do you realize that you're unironically implying that adoption should be handled exclusively by private interests?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/12/18 1:25:01 PM #20:	wont pass the senate meaningless --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904949995] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>wont pass the senate meaningless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 07/12/18 1:25:04 PM #21:	iClockwork posted... A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate wisdom. It has nothing to do with sexuality. which ignorant backwards hick did you copy and paste this from? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:904950001] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate wisdom. It has nothing to do with sexuality.</quote> which ignorant backwards hick did you copy and paste this from?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/12/18 1:25:47 PM #22:	halomonkey1_3_5 posted... both sides according to @Coffeebeanz lmao --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904950050] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote>both sides</quote> according to @Coffeebeanz lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/12/18 1:25:53 PM #23:	Darkman124 posted... wont pass the senate meaningless The fact that theyre actually trying to do this is a problem --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:904950060] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>wont pass the senate meaningless</quote> The fact that theyre actually trying to do this is a problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 07/12/18 1:25:55 PM #24:	Zeeak4444 posted... Shut the fuck up with this tired ol bullshit. At least be clever for once with your trolling. Can't refute the point once again. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:904950064] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up with this tired ol bullshit. At least be clever for once with your trolling.</quote> Can't refute the point once again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 07/12/18 1:26:09 PM #25:	tamashiini posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Republicans are such shitty people --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:904950076] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>tamashiini posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Republicans are such shitty people</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 07/12/18 1:26:44 PM #26:	Family Values --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:904950109] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>Family Values</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:27:12 PM #27:	hollow_shrine posted... Questionmarktarius posted... joestarrr posted... taxpayer-funded adoption agencies Why should that even exist? At all? Ma'am, do you realize that you're unironically implying that adoption should be handled exclusively by private interests? The only interest "taxpayers" should have in adoption is the paperwork at the end. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904950132] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>joestarrr posted...</cite> <quote>taxpayer-funded adoption agencies</quote> Why should that even exist? At all?</quote> Ma'am, do you realize that you're unironically implying that adoption should be handled exclusively by private interests?</quote> The only interest "taxpayers" should have in adoption is the paperwork at the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/12/18 1:28:51 PM #28:	Questionmarktarius posted... The only interest "taxpayers" should have in adoption is the paperwork at the end. why do you say that --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950228] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>The only interest "taxpayers" should have in adoption is the paperwork at the end. </quote> why do you say that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/12/18 1:31:23 PM #29:	iClockwork posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Shut the fuck up with this tired ol bullshit. At least be clever for once with your trolling. Can't refute the point once again. Get on your main and tag me and then I'll be happy to refute that with ease. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904950377] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up with this tired ol bullshit. At least be clever for once with your trolling.</quote> Can't refute the point once again.</quote> Get on your main and tag me and then I'll be happy to refute that with ease.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:32:14 PM #30:	Darkman124 posted... Questionmarktarius posted... The only interest "taxpayers" should have in adoption is the paperwork at the end. why do you say that Expecting taxpayer subsidies for adoption agencies is analogous with expecting taxpayer subsidies for wedding planners. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904950430] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>The only interest "taxpayers" should have in adoption is the paperwork at the end. </quote> why do you say that</quote> Expecting taxpayer subsidies for adoption agencies is analogous with expecting taxpayer subsidies for wedding planners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 07/12/18 1:33:04 PM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... Expecting taxpayer subsidies for adoption agencies is analogous with expecting taxpayer subsidies for wedding planners. why do you consider people getting married to be equivalent in value to society to children getting parents --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950479] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Expecting taxpayer subsidies for adoption agencies is analogous with expecting taxpayer subsidies for wedding planners. </quote> why do you consider people getting married to be equivalent in value to society to children getting parents</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:34:06 PM #33:	Darkman124 posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Expecting taxpayer subsidies for adoption agencies is analogous with expecting taxpayer subsidies for wedding planners. why do you consider people getting married to be equivalent in value to society to children getting parents Tax preparation then. ...which... probably happens? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904950545] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Expecting taxpayer subsidies for adoption agencies is analogous with expecting taxpayer subsidies for wedding planners. </quote> why do you consider people getting married to be equivalent in value to society to children getting parents</quote> Tax preparation then. ...which... probably happens?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/12/18 1:34:58 PM #34:	iClockwork posted... A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate knowledge a man would also provide. It has nothing to do with sexuality. Really? Do you have anything to back up this claim? --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:904950579] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate knowledge a man would also provide. It has nothing to do with sexuality.</quote> Really? Do you have anything to back up this claim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 07/12/18 1:35:03 PM #36:	Questionmarktarius posted... Tax preparation then. ...which... probably happens? it does. don't you see fundamental value to society in placing children with parents, such that more crime is probably prevented by it than an equivalent expenditure on a police force? --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950585] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Tax preparation then. ...which... probably happens? </quote> it does. don't you see fundamental value to society in placing children with parents, such that more crime is probably prevented by it than an equivalent expenditure on a police force?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tappor 07/12/18 1:35:29 PM #37:	iClockwork posted... A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate knowledge a man would also provide. It has nothing to do with sexuality. Maybe if I say it has nothing to do with sexuality, it'll become true, even though what I just said contradicts that! --- Facetious <cite>Tappor posted [p:904950603] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>A stablely raised child needs both a man and women in the household. Two women would not be able to raise a boy and provide him with the appropriate knowledge a man would also provide. It has nothing to do with sexuality.</quote> Maybe if I say it has nothing to do with sexuality, it'll become true, even though what I just said contradicts that!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:36:09 PM #38:	shockthemonkey posted... It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904950641] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through</quote> Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/12/18 1:36:56 PM #39:	Questionmarktarius posted... shockthemonkey posted... It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable. why do you view it in terms of need, rather than in terms of incentive also note that the funding isnt just going to the adopting family, but also to the panel who verifies whether they'd make good parents these seem like good uses of tax dollars to me and i dont understand why they do not to you. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950687] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through</quote> Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable.</quote> why do you view it in terms of need, rather than in terms of incentive also note that the funding isnt just going to the adopting family, but also to the panel who verifies whether they'd make good parents these seem like good uses of tax dollars to me and i dont understand why they do not to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:38:05 PM #40:	Darkman124 posted... Questionmarktarius posted... shockthemonkey posted... It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable. why do you view it in terms of need, rather than in terms of incentive also note that the funding isnt just going to the adopting family, but also to the panel who verifies whether they'd make good parents Social engineering rarely works, and usually backfires spectacularly. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904950746] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through</quote> Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable.</quote> why do you view it in terms of need, rather than in terms of incentive also note that the funding isnt just going to the adopting family, but also to the panel who verifies whether they'd make good parents</quote> Social engineering rarely works, and usually backfires spectacularly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/12/18 1:38:49 PM #41:	Questionmarktarius posted... Social engineering rarely works, and usually backfires spectacularly. i dont think that is true i think a huge portion of what we spend taxpayer money on is social engineering and a sizable chunk of it works so well its become bog standard across western democracies --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950790] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Social engineering rarely works, and usually backfires spectacularly. </quote> i dont think that is true i think a huge portion of what we spend taxpayer money on is social engineering and a sizable chunk of it works so well its become bog standard across western democracies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 07/12/18 1:39:02 PM #42:	Zeeak4444 posted... Get on your main and tag me and then I'll be happy to refute that with ease. Only account I have. Continue deflecting the points. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:904950805] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>Get on your main and tag me and then I'll be happy to refute that with ease. </quote> Only account I have. Continue deflecting the points.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 07/12/18 1:39:42 PM #44:	Tappor posted... Maybe if I say it has nothing to do with sexuality, it'll become true, even though what I just said contradicts that! Sorry I should have said sexual orientation. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:904950843] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tappor posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe if I say it has nothing to do with sexuality, it'll become true, even though what I just said contradicts that! </quote> Sorry I should have said sexual orientation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/12/18 1:39:51 PM #45:	Questionmarktarius posted... Darkman124 posted... Questionmarktarius posted... shockthemonkey posted... It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable. why do you view it in terms of need, rather than in terms of incentive also note that the funding isnt just going to the adopting family, but also to the panel who verifies whether they'd make good parents Social engineering rarely works, and usually backfires spectacularly. Is that really social engineering though. I guess in the loosest sense of the phrase, if anything. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:904950850] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through</quote> Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable.</quote> why do you view it in terms of need, rather than in terms of incentive also note that the funding isnt just going to the adopting family, but also to the panel who verifies whether they'd make good parents</quote> Social engineering rarely works, and usually backfires spectacularly.</quote> Is that really social engineering though. I guess in the loosest sense of the phrase, if anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 07/12/18 1:40:53 PM #46:	Questionmarktarius posted... shockthemonkey posted... It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable. The article says taxpayer funded agencies, as in the orphanages. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:904950902] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds like you havent thought this viewpoint through</quote> Financial stability is vastly more important than moralistic nonsense. If you need taxpayer assistance to adopt, then you probably aren't very financially stable.</quote> The article says taxpayer funded agencies, as in the orphanages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 07/12/18 1:41:58 PM #47:	GATTJT posted... The article says taxpayer funded agencies, as in the orphanages. shockthemonkey posted... The agencies are the ones who are getting subsidies, do you realize that? in his defense: the subsidies going to these organizations DO make the adoption process cheaper for families looking to adopt through them. generally there is a fee, and the fee serves to cover operating costs, so some of the govt subsidy is passed to the adopter. i would argue that subsidizing in this way provides the incentive to good families who want to adopt, but maybe only want to pay $5000 instead of $20000. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:904950961] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote>The article says taxpayer funded agencies, as in the orphanages. </quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>The agencies are the ones who are getting subsidies, do you realize that? </quote> in his defense: the subsidies going to these organizations DO make the adoption process cheaper for families looking to adopt through them. generally there is a fee, and the fee serves to cover operating costs, so some of the govt subsidy is passed to the adopter. i would argue that subsidizing in this way provides the incentive to good families who want to adopt, but maybe only want to pay $5000 instead of $20000.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/12/18 1:41:59 PM #48:	GATTJT posted... The article says taxpayer funded agencies, as in the orphanages. Those still exist? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:904950963] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote><cite>GATTJT posted...</cite> <quote>The article says taxpayer funded agencies, as in the orphanages.</quote> Those still exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roshon 07/12/18 1:42:50 PM #50:	How can you vote Republican and feel like youre a good person? Republicans are vile, evil people. --- ANORA! https://imgur.com/WvXvQIA <cite>Roshon posted [p:904951011] in Republican... [t:76800543]...</cite> <quote>How can you vote Republican and feel like youre a good person? Republicans are vile, evil people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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