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3khc 07/10/18 11:57:25 AM #1: |
I like Cap because he is the weakest Avenger, but still the leader.
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Relient_K 07/10/18 12:00:07 PM #2: |
He is not weaker than black widow or hawkeye.
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SpinKirby 07/10/18 12:00:23 PM #3: |
Relient_K posted...
He is not weaker than black widow or hawkeye. --- MHW Supplemental Discord: https://discord.gg/ChHjtYQ https://imgur.com/QL6WJAl https://imgur.com/lGlcDyU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 07/10/18 12:04:24 PM #4: |
Black Widow has spy tech and Hawkeye has super aiming.
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Relient_K 07/10/18 12:05:39 PM #5: |
Cap is a lot more than peak human. Did you see infinity war? I don't want to post spoilers but there is a scene that no one else pulled off towards the end.
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3khc 07/10/18 12:08:18 PM #6: |
I know what scene you mean.
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Deadpool_18 07/10/18 12:09:29 PM #8: |
3khc posted...
I know what scene you mean. Yeah seriously. Even in the trailer I was like Thats some bullshit. but it made more sense when I actually saw the movie lol. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/10/18 12:09:38 PM #9: |
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Eh yeah it happened but it shouldn't have. That part annoyed me as a comic reader. He is not supposed to be that strong. They just did it cause it looked cool even though it doesn't make sense thanos wasn't trying as hard --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpinKirby 07/10/18 12:10:23 PM #10: |
The Marvel movies are terrible with power scaling.
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3khc 07/10/18 12:18:17 PM #11: |
That scene was cool and it is exactly why I like Captain America. He's an ant compared to his enemies and allies, but if he ain't the last man standing it's because he already dead.
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Zikten 07/10/18 12:19:57 PM #12: |
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Zikten posted...Eh yeah it happened but it shouldn't have. That part annoyed me as a comic reader. He is not supposed to be that strong. They just did it cause it looked cool even though it doesn't make sense After I posted that I realized that. I forgot that it is actually misleading. Or in the trailer it was misleading compared to how it plays out in the movie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/10/18 12:21:42 PM #13: |
How bought the scene where Cap holds down a Helicopter?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/10/18 12:22:31 PM #14: |
LightHawKnight posted...
How bought the scene where Cap holds down a Helicopter? hinting that he's probably stronger than peak human also like think about how like grandmas can pick up cars when they enter "the zone" to save their grandkids probably something similar but more since it's Captain America --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3khc 07/10/18 12:34:29 PM #15: |
The helicopter thing was cool, but yeah so bizarre that Cap was able to do it. How much pulling force can a helicopter output.
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Touch 07/10/18 12:41:30 PM #17: |
Ever since the MCU started, Cap has been my favorite. Yeah he isn't the most OP or unique member but his leadership and morality is tops.
Plus he gets awesome scenes like helicopter and Thanos. And his hair and facial hair in Infinity War. Lord I do believe I have the vapors. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlCalavicci 07/10/18 7:22:10 PM #19: |
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Touch posted...Ever since the MCU started, Cap has been my favorite. Yeah he isn't the most OP or unique member but his leadership and morality is tops. That's Just Your Opinion --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 07/10/18 7:24:16 PM #20: |
If you think he's only peak human you may need to check your brain.
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Cobra1010 07/10/18 7:25:50 PM #21: |
Comic movie logic: Thanos beats the shit out of hulk. Then Captain american holds off thanos. Yep.
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CommonJoe 07/10/18 7:32:19 PM #22: |
Its been pretty heavily implied that Cap and Stark for that matter are more than just who they are as heroes.
That Cap could hold Thanos back like that at all says as much. Case in point, Gamora in the MCU should be stronger than Cap is. Her feats of strength outweigh his. And yet when Thanos throws her off the cliff he doesnt struggle at all to do so despite his hesitation. He may not have been trying hard with Cap, but he also had no reason to hold back. Plus you also have to consider that he didnt expect Cap to hold him back. IIRC he just knocked Panther on his ass no problem and when he goes for Cap, Cap pushes back. That was no accident and I dont think its just to give Cap his Cap moment. --- we are forced to subsidize views we may not agree with. Bond_543 In response to NPR tweeting the Declaration of Independence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecSkorpio 07/10/18 7:35:28 PM #23: |
He's surpassed peak human through the MCU, weather this is through training or just bad writing I don't know, but the fact people don't pick up on this baffles me.
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D-Lo_BrownTown 07/10/18 7:39:29 PM #24: |
Cobra1010 posted...
Comic movie logic: Thanos beats the shit out of hulk. Then Captain american holds off thanos. Yep. Blonsky literally went toe to toe with the Hulk only like hours after getting an incomplete version of the super soldier serum so... --- You Messin Wit Da Real Deal Now https://imgur.com/dWXgtSb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rob Cesternino 07/10/18 7:44:38 PM #25: |
Captain America was fighting Spider-man in that movie
Spider-man is capable of lifting 20 tons. I'm pretty sure Captain America can't lift anywhere near that, yet somehow they were equal in the movie. --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ray_Dorset 07/10/18 7:47:21 PM #26: |
Power levels in the MCU are wildly inconsistent. For instance in the first Avengers, Iron Man goes toe to toe with Thor in the forest. In IW, Thor withstands the concentrated power of a small fucking star.
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theAteam 07/10/18 7:48:44 PM #27: |
JustMyOpinion posted...
Touch posted...Ever since the MCU started, Cap has been my favorite. Yeah he isn't the most OP or unique member but his leadership and morality is tops. No, --- Buffalo Bills 2018-19 Season Prediction: 5-11 Change my mind ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kuwab0 07/10/18 7:50:47 PM #28: |
MCU Cap is above peak human like Ultimates Cap
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CommonJoe 07/10/18 7:57:21 PM #29: |
Ray_Dorset posted...
Power levels in the MCU are wildly inconsistent. For instance in the first Avengers, Iron Man goes toe to toe with Thor in the forest. In IW, Thor withstands the concentrated power of a small fucking star. Id say this has more to do with an inconsistency on who holds back and why. Cap going toe to toe with Spiderman logically be a Spidey win, but Spidey was only just superheroing for a max of 6-12 months at that point. Makes sense Cap could stalemate him (and everybody was holding back that fight anyway) Then with Thor v Iron Man, Thor simply wasnt trying to end him. Thor could have ripped Tonys armor apart pretty fast. Why he didnt is the real question. Thor had no connection to these people and he wouldnt have had to kill Stark just to put him out of commission. --- we are forced to subsidize views we may not agree with. Bond_543 In response to NPR tweeting the Declaration of Independence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D-Lo_BrownTown 07/10/18 8:19:31 PM #31: |
Ray_Dorset posted...
Power levels in the MCU are wildly inconsistent. For instance in the first Avengers, Iron Man goes toe to toe with Thor in the forest. In IW, Thor withstands the concentrated power of a small fucking star. Odin is dead, Thor is now the Allfather. Thor literally gets a massive power boost in comics when Odin is gone, so it isn't a leap to assume the same happens in the films. --- You Messin Wit Da Real Deal Now https://imgur.com/dWXgtSb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 07/11/18 12:14:57 PM #32: |
Cobra1010 posted...
Comic movie logic: Thanos beats the shit out of hulk. Then Captain american holds off thanos. Yep. Never happened. Cap got oneshotted. Rob Cesternino posted... Captain America was fighting Spider-man in that movie Lifting strength has little to do with a fight. Cap's superior in fighting skills. Same reason he beat Spidey in the comics. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rob Cesternino 07/11/18 3:17:43 PM #33: |
Knowledge_King posted...
Lifting strength has little to do with a fight. Cap's superior in fighting skills. Same reason he beat Spidey in the comics. So you're saying if a hamster has superior fighting skills against an elephant, it can win? And what happened to Spider-man's spidey sense? He should be able to see Captain America's punches in slow motion. --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kafkaf 07/11/18 5:08:29 PM #34: |
Rob Cesternino posted...
Knowledge_King posted...Lifting strength has little to do with a fight. Cap's superior in fighting skills. Same reason he beat Spidey in the comics. MCU Cap is stronger than comic book Cap, he was only slightly weaker than Spidey --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Hakubi 07/11/18 5:27:04 PM #35: |
I was about to make a post about Cap then I realized 80% of th topic beat me to it lol.
Quite ridiculous to call MCU Cap human..regarding strength and resilience anyway. --- https://imgur.com/xpT6zzQ My Top 100 Video Game Music: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF3949EA6DC5D532F (2010) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lo_Key90 07/11/18 8:02:14 PM #36: |
I would also like to point out Cap gorilla pressed Iron Man like he was a flimsy pillow in Civil War(probably because it was bts lol) & who knows how much the suit + Stark's weight is. He ain't just a peak human.
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AvantgardeAClue 07/11/18 8:14:22 PM #37: |
MCU heroes are as powerful as the story demands it.
Consider that Iron Man and Cap are able to 1v1 Thanos ever so briefly in Infinity War, but they had a hard time dealing with Hulk in Age of Ultron, the same Hulk who got rekt by Thanos in Infinity War. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoctorVader 07/11/18 8:19:15 PM #38: |
Rob Cesternino posted...
Captain America was fighting Spider-man in that movie I think they made it pretty clear that Cap had the superior skills and experience. Spidey grabbed Bucky's arm like it was absolutely nothing. BP tried that same shit twice and he was putting tremendous force to hold it. Ray_Dorset posted... Power levels in the MCU are wildly inconsistent. For instance in the first Avengers, Iron Man goes toe to toe with Thor in the forest. In IW, Thor withstands the concentrated power of a small fucking star. From Ragnarok, --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoctorVader 07/11/18 8:26:04 PM #39: |
AvantgardeAClue posted...
MCU heroes are as powerful as the story demands it. Wait, when did Cap go up against Hulk? Also, it's been 3/2 years since AoU/CW. Tony is constantly upgrading his suits. I don't see it being improbable that he'd be able to take on Thanos. Not like he actually took him on though because he was getting bodied pretty badly iirc. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecSkorpio 07/12/18 7:47:52 PM #40: |
I think it's pretty clear that they core team has gotten stronger since their initial showings.
-Tony has consistently made better and better suits. -Cap has gotten more agile and stronger the more he trains and the more experience he gets -Thor has either stopped holding back or has literally gotten stronger through the death of Odin/Hela -Hulk has become more intelligent/is becoming "one" with Bruce. Out of all of them, the biggest one you need to stretch is with Cap cause it is kind of inconsistent, but it might also be that he unintentionally holds back until he get really desperate or something. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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