Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 T13: If it looks like a cow, smells like a cow, eats like a cow...

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Corrik posted...

Dels posted...

You're making up lies, corrik. I never wrote shad off for returning.

What are you talking about.

I said you were voting him all day. When he returned you unvoted him.

Misunderstood. From your context of tagging shad, I thought you meant I wrote off the chance of him returning

Dels posted...

htaeD posted...

Wasnt talking about the vote.
Was more talking about the overall thing coming down to me and you.

It seems like Shad is getting a pass from everyone today. I tried reading up on him, but all I get is that none of the scum ever talked about him.

From everyone?!

From YOU, death!

I proposed we all vote shad.

You didn't want to. You said I am scum and that you had no reason to scumread shad besides Poe.

Am I wrong? Do you want to take back your vote and instead propose that we lynch shad?

I gave him a pass before he showed back up again. Because of my standards.
When he returned, I did consider things.
But I couldnt find anything directly scummy about him.
I do have a few more things against Shad besides PoE, but nothing major and most of it comes from what other scum said about him day1.

But fair is fair, I did say I would vote you over Shad today. I am not blaming you for voting me either (on the off chance that you are town, I can still be cordial.)

Even if all of that werent a factor though, voting Shad now would leave me worried something could go very wrong once I sleep (IE, I get 3 votes, shad only 2). Especially since Panth and Corrik are after your blood.

I dont know exactly where everyone lies on me VS Shad.
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Yeah I just dont see dels relying on a WiFom "would I be this weird as scum" gambit in this scenario where its very likely failure leaves the game in...shads? Hands. If it were Chris or corrik on his scum team, maybe. Chris isn't and...corrik/dels is a funny consideration but no. Leaving it in ashe' s hands is...possible, but as I remember ashe was suspected pretty heavily until after dels commited to the alliance. Panthera....maybe. I guess i dont know enough about his reputation to make that judgement. But based on this game I dont think i would take those odds
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Dels posted...

Setting up for future games?

Wow

So you are accusing me of not playing to win.

Purposefully losing so that I can do well in some hypothetical future game on a board I only play on every 6 months or so and no one even remembers me when I do?

What a ludicrous and offensive theory

You stated this outright yourself when you were not voting Leo and said your alliance was more important for future games in establishing your trustworthiness regarding it.

Basically.
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Corrik posted...

Hence you are no longer voting him and are trying to lynch someone else now that he is back and are even acting like he is a part of your "team".

No, after he returned I continued to say I could do either death or shad and wasn't sure which

But once I received 2 votes, with a 3rd from death guaranteed,

I had zero option to lynch shad even if I wanted to

Therefore my only option is death.

All townies are part of my team, even you. If shad is town, then he is part of my team

Dels posted...

Setting up for future games?

Wow

So you are accusing me of not playing to win.

Purposefully losing so that I can do well in some hypothetical future game on a board I only play on every 6 months or so and no one even remembers me when I do?

What a ludicrous and offensive theory

No no no
wait a second here
I specifically remember you saying you did the honor thing because you wanted future players to know a Delse deal was always something to depend on.
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Corrik posted...

Dels posted...

Setting up for future games?

Wow

So you are accusing me of not playing to win.

Purposefully losing so that I can do well in some hypothetical future game on a board I only play on every 6 months or so and no one even remembers me when I do?

What a ludicrous and offensive theory

You stated this outright yourself when you were not voting Leo and said your alliance was more important for future games in establishing your trustworthiness regarding it.

Basically.

I also said that it was important for establishing trust in me in future days of the current game.

Keyword current game.

That said, I do wish Shad would return before I leave.

@Shaduln

worked the first time!
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Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Dels posted...

Setting up for future games?

Wow

So you are accusing me of not playing to win.

Purposefully losing so that I can do well in some hypothetical future game on a board I only play on every 6 months or so and no one even remembers me when I do?

What a ludicrous and offensive theory

You stated this outright yourself when you were not voting Leo and said your alliance was more important for future games in establishing your trustworthiness regarding it.

Basically.

I also said that it was important for establishing trust in me in future days of the current game.

Keyword current game.

....
I will believe that you believe that.
But I in no way remember it being phrased like that.
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htaeD posted...

Dels posted...

Setting up for future games?

Wow

So you are accusing me of not playing to win.

Purposefully losing so that I can do well in some hypothetical future game on a board I only play on every 6 months or so and no one even remembers me when I do?

What a ludicrous and offensive theory

No no no
wait a second here
I specifically remember you saying you did the honor thing because you wanted future players to know a Delse deal was always something to depend on.

I said that was ONE potential benefit to it, INCLUDING that it shows I can be trusted on future days.

And that wasn't WHY I did it, that was just an example of why i was still playing to win

htaeD posted...

Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Dels posted...

Setting up for future games?

Wow

So you are accusing me of not playing to win.

Purposefully losing so that I can do well in some hypothetical future game on a board I only play on every 6 months or so and no one even remembers me when I do?

What a ludicrous and offensive theory

You stated this outright yourself when you were not voting Leo and said your alliance was more important for future games in establishing your trustworthiness regarding it.

Basically.

I also said that it was important for establishing trust in me in future days of the current game.

Keyword current game.

....
I will believe that you believe that.
But I in no way remember it being phrased like that.

Definitely was, I said future games and future days in the game.

Cracktheory is of course that Corrik or Panth is scum and they're trying to push us against each other instead of against Shad.
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I seem to remember Dels being accused of not playing to win earlier in the game also... By I think Chris and a somewhat fuzzy response of you just joined to be better than an inactive slot basically and you weren't invested in the game.

I should go re-read your posts to get the accurate statements.

That offensive and ludicrous post on the end of last page seemed quite weird.
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Anyway, doing something helpful that had a side-benefit of helping me in future games is way different than purposefully playing a risky as hell strategy just to... I don't even get it? I play horribly as scum in this game so that...what? What even was the theory?

I dont think it really works as a promise for This game. But fine, I will retract that statement about setting up for future games.
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It wasnt a theory, it was me repeating something I thought you said.
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Corrik posted...

I seem to remember Dels being accused of not playing to win earlier in the game also... By I think Chris and a somewhat fuzzy response of you just joined to be better than an inactive slot basically and you weren't invested in the game.

I should go re-read your posts to get the accurate statements.

That offensive and ludicrous post on the end of last page seemed quite weird.

Those sound roughly correct.

I'm surprised your memory actually works sometimes, but yes, that's about what happened.

htaeD posted...

It wasnt a theory, it was me repeating something I thought you said.

I thought you meant that as scum I was playing badly on purpose to set up for some future game as scum, so I was like, that makes no sense

But also as scum I wouldn't play horribly on purpose to set up for... Future town games... That's really.... Weird...????

I was just trying to explain why me being the way I am and sticking to that alliance was a good thing for me overall as a player and In this game.

I guess I did sorta relate it to "future games" but that wasn't the main point and it was so far from the reason I did it

Understood. (sorry, real tired)
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I'm still not super invested but I'm hoping that shad comes in and votes death, AND that Ashe can be convinced.

It's something worth fighting for at least

htaeD posted...

Understood. (sorry, real tired)

It's ok

Dels posted...

I'm still not super invested but I'm hoping that shad comes in and votes death, AND that Ashe can be convinced.

It's something worth fighting for at least

I DONT hope that

(Knowing my luck, I probably still get lynched before shad)
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Dels
07/05/18 5:59:56 PM
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Perspective gaps exist but rarely rarely slips

It just amazes me the posts you have in this game and anyone at all thinks you are town.

He says this and another about scumslip 101 how what he says are not slips

Then immediately when I say... "Dels do you see it"

He responds like

What did someone slip?

Ashe?

Death?

I can find the post.

Dels has literally been all over the place this game.

I forgot that post so yeah I feel better about Ashe again and think shad is the final scum with Dels.
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He says me and Panthera are bad for pointing out his slips. (After the slip Panthera called him out on he tried to peg on me)

And again... Immediately asked me if Ashe or death slipped when defending himself.

Like, it is so obvious it blows my mind.
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htaeD posted...

Dels posted...

I'm still not super invested but I'm hoping that shad comes in and votes death, AND that Ashe can be convinced.

It's something worth fighting for at least

I DONT hope that

(Knowing my luck, I probably still get lynched before shad)

Man, don't blame me if you do >_>

I'm the one who advocated for going for a non-contributing (no offense shad it's just a fact) POE'd likely scum before you, someone who is a strong and active player, just in case

You didn't feel the same way about me

If the town decides to lunch you before an inactive then idk what to tell you

I mean shad really is who we ought to lynch today
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Dels said all my reads were townies.

Mzero/Dels/Ashe

I would assume would have a town in there so Ashe looks even better.
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Corrik posted...

He says me and Panthera are bad for pointing out his slips. (After the slip Panthera called him out on he tried to peg on me)

And again... Immediately asked me if Ashe or death slipped when defending himself.

Like, it is so obvious it blows my mind.

Yeah cause the stuff you were pointing out we're not real slips, it was just shit like saying "the town" instead of "us" or whatever

I said those slips are dumb and that real slips are rare

Idk man, when people make vague statements like that I get really excited that someone found someone big

Ashe literally found a real scum slip, he caught Mzero claiming a third watch instead of having just two like he claimed.

They exist.

When you post something like, you get my hopes up. I jump on it too every time Chris says something vague.

Flimsiest case I've ever seen lol.

pxlated posted...

I mean shad really is who we ought to lynch today

Ask death if he wants to.

I'm not against it. (Sorry shad, if you show up that may change)

I have to do anything to survive

pxlated posted...

I mean shad really is who we ought to lynch today

Yet you are voting who a confirmed scum simply asked you to.

Chris said about Leo using charisma to try and get out of his Lynch as scum.

Sound familiar?
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Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

He says me and Panthera are bad for pointing out his slips. (After the slip Panthera called him out on he tried to peg on me)

And again... Immediately asked me if Ashe or death slipped when defending himself.

Like, it is so obvious it blows my mind.

Yeah cause the stuff you were pointing out we're not real slips, it was just shit like saying "the town" instead of "us" or whatever

I said those slips are dumb and that real slips are rare

Idk man, when people make vague statements like that I get really excited that someone found someone big

Ashe literally found a real scum slip, he caught Mzero claiming a third watch instead of having just two like he claimed.

They exist.

When you post something like, you get my hopes up. I jump on it too every time Chris says something vague.

Flimsiest case I've ever seen lol.

Yet supposedly everything I say is a slip is bad and flimsy BUT the moment i say do you see it you immediately jump to I have a slip on one of them two.

Why would you even do that if all the slips I find are terrible. It is an illogical following of logic.
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Dude, she said death was her top suspect before I even said a word to her

If anything, I'm the one following

Feel free to ask him yourself!

I'm in bed trying and failing to sleep (probably how I got sucked back into this) and don't really care what happens. Save yourself.
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Feels kinda rude to do it, while he's not here

I am not against it on principle
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Corrik posted...

Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

He says me and Panthera are bad for pointing out his slips. (After the slip Panthera called him out on he tried to peg on me)

And again... Immediately asked me if Ashe or death slipped when defending himself.

Like, it is so obvious it blows my mind.

Yeah cause the stuff you were pointing out we're not real slips, it was just shit like saying "the town" instead of "us" or whatever

I said those slips are dumb and that real slips are rare

Idk man, when people make vague statements like that I get really excited that someone found someone big

Ashe literally found a real scum slip, he caught Mzero claiming a third watch instead of having just two like he claimed.

They exist.

When you post something like, you get my hopes up. I jump on it too every time Chris says something vague.

Flimsiest case I've ever seen lol.

Yet supposedly everything I say is a slip is bad and flimsy BUT the moment i say do you see it you immediately jump to I have a slip on one of them two.

Why would you even do that if all the slips I find are terrible. It is an illogical following of logic.

Again you'll just have to assume that maybe I have some faith in your ability to notice correct things sometimes? Idk

What can I say, yeah I think all your reads have been shit since day 4 started, but I just get so excited when people say vague stuff like that, I hope something big is about to happen

Corrik posted...

pxlated posted...

I mean shad really is who we ought to lynch today

Yet you are voting who a confirmed scum simply asked you to.

Chris said about Leo using charisma to try and get out of his Lynch as scum.

Sound familiar?

Where did I vote
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Hell I am half tempted to vote pxel, and I think she's town
<.<
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pxlated posted...

Feel free to ask him yourself!

I'm in bed trying and failing to sleep (probably how I got sucked back into this) and don't really care what happens. Save yourself.

Worst ally ever

Death if you wanna lynch shad, do it right now before pxl falls asleep so that she can follow

Oh.I THOUGHT you hadnt voted but assumed corrik wasn't just totally wrong. Idk why I'd assume that.

If you seriously plan on leaving me to fend for myself when I have 3 votes on me then maybe you really are the worst ally ever >_>

Even if I did, I dont think I'd stay on Shad tho... hmm
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Dels posted...

pxlated posted...

Feel free to ask him yourself!

I'm in bed trying and failing to sleep (probably how I got sucked back into this) and don't really care what happens. Save yourself.

Worst ally ever

Death if you wanna lynch shad, do it right now before pxl falls asleep so that she can follow

I'm not leaving the possibility of a tie open. If i fall asleep before everyone shows up or shad gets 3 other votes then so be it
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I really honestly don't care anymore.

I think you are scum, death.

But if you want to vote shad, we can do it and see if Ashe wants that more than he wants me.

We can see if pxl decides to feel generous.

I don't really know and I seriously have better things to do than keep fighting for situations that probably don't matter >_>

tho now I worry you cant be scum with shad
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Death just make a choice. It's so much simpler if you do.

That's right, I'm not scum with shad. =P

Dels posted...

I think you are scum, death.

You literally just said to fucking ask death if he was okay to vote shad with you both.

How fucking blatant can this shit be???

Seriously.
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**** it

lets see what happens
##Vote: Shad
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(yes I know this doesnt count, sssssh)
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Death if you are town and don't vote Dels you should quit playing mafia.

And I am pretty sure you are town after that Dels tie bullshit.
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Corrik posted...

Dels posted...

I think you are scum, death.

You literally just said to fucking ask death if he was okay to vote shad with you both.

How fucking blatant can this shit be???

Seriously.

Dude

I've gotta do whatever I fucking can to save myself

If that means trying to make a deal with someone I THINK is scum, but had a chance not to be, to lynch a person that COULD be scum

Then that's a way better option than me allowing myself, a townie, to die

This may look like scum doing anything they can to survive

But guess what, townies wanna do everything they can to survive too.