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CyricZ
07/10/18 7:42:20 PM
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Yeah I know. I just kinda liked watching him squirm and froth a bit. It's a bit mean, I'll grant you, but even I have a dark side.
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Ryo_the_Inferno
07/10/18 8:02:23 PM
#256:


Funkydog posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Except all that stuff about Quinn was fake news.

Indeed.

It turned out she actually cheated on him with six guys and not just five.

And? She literally wasn't sleeping with anyone for reviews, since most of them weren't reviewing her games.

Concentrating on a woman's sex life under the guise of 'journalistic integrity' is a shitty hill to die on.

This.

From what I recall, none of the people she slept with did any reviews on her (tiny) indie game, so really... who cares?

Just to clear this up, it wasn't 'reviews' it was 'coverage'. her game was favorably mentioned several times in reviews for other games by one of the guys she was sleeping with.
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ProbablyaCat
07/10/18 8:04:53 PM
#257:


CyricZ posted...
Yeah I know. I just kinda liked watching him squirm and froth a bit. It's a bit mean, I'll grant you, but even I have a dark side.


Edgy posts smh
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FLUFFYGERM
07/10/18 8:08:23 PM
#258:


Without even reading the topic - has CyricZ tried desperately to defend the former ArenaNet writers?
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Delirious_Beard
07/10/18 8:11:55 PM
#260:


Conflict posted...
CyricZ posted...
Yeah I know. I just kinda liked watching him squirm and froth a bit. It's a bit mean, I'll grant you, but even I have a dark side.


So you're an anime character now?


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FLUFFYGERM
07/10/18 8:14:27 PM
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ColdOne666
07/10/18 10:34:35 PM
#262:


Going by her twitter pic i thought she might be decent looking but it turns out shes a plump middle age women.

Talk about false advertising lol.
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Leanaunfurled
07/10/18 10:39:18 PM
#263:


ColdOne666 posted...
Going by her twitter pic i thought she might be decent looking but it turns out shes a plump middle age women.

Talk about false advertising lol.

What other pics of her are there? I only saw one when I Googled, and she was in only half the shot (it was a group one).
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ColdOne666
07/10/18 10:40:31 PM
#264:


Leanaunfurled posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Going by her twitter pic i thought she might be decent looking but it turns out shes a plump middle age women.

Talk about false advertising lol.

What other pics of her are there? I only saw one when I Googled, and she was in only half the shot (it was a group one).


Whatever that pic on her social media account is. She prob got it from google.
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Leanaunfurled
07/10/18 11:50:18 PM
#266:


DuranOfForcena posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Going by her twitter pic i thought she might be decent looking but it turns out shes a plump middle age women.

Talk about false advertising lol.

What other pics of her are there? I only saw one when I Googled, and she was in only half the shot (it was a group one).


Whatever that pic on her social media account is. She prob got it from google.

yeah no, she's asking what pics there are of Jessica Price besides that one

i.e. the one you are talking about that identifies her as plump and middle aged

Yeah, this. She doesn't look plump or middle-aged and the 1 1/2 pics I saw of her. o.O
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 9:55:47 AM
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chrono625 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Everywhere she's left has been under dubious circumstances like this. Stripping away all the nonsense shit flinging from either side isn't there a point where she looks in the mirror and asks herself if the problem is her?


calling out sexism is dubious now holy shit.


Where, here in this situation, was there sexism?

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
Point to where the sexism was frisbee.

In her original tweet to deroir, point to where the sexism was.

Please.

He won't.
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Tyranius2
07/11/18 10:52:32 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Another video, Polygon are such garbage lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCQK3OcdkD4" data-time="


Most video game news outlets are garbage, I haven't found a single one that tries to be at least neutral. They always try to pain Price as the victim.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/11/18 10:54:28 AM
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Tyranius2 posted...
Most video game news outlets are garbage, I haven't found a single one that tries to be at least neutral. They always try to pain Price as the victim
They're obviously "Colluding" to 'Control the Narative' to the outside world to those who don't follow the situation.

They should be all fired for lack of journalistic integrity.
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AlephZero
07/11/18 11:03:30 AM
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 11:05:13 AM
#272:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Tyranius2 posted...
Most video game news outlets are garbage, I haven't found a single one that tries to be at least neutral. They always try to pain Price as the victim
They're obviously "Colluding" to 'Control the Narative' to the outside world to those who don't follow the situation.

They should be all fired for lack of journalistic integrity.


LMAO is your bloodtype tinfoil?
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SavenForever
07/11/18 11:10:24 AM
#273:


Mystery_Mission posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Good, they were completely out of line.


This. Also, for them to be fired that quickly tells me that they were already on thin ice with the company.
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DarthAragorn
07/11/18 12:06:33 PM
#275:


DuranOfForcena posted...
hoo boy

Anita Sarkeesian actually decided to chime in. it's about as brain-dead of an observation as we should expect:

https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/1016485259662188544

Looool

Deroir or whatever was the victim here

Dumb bitch
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AlephZero
07/11/18 12:13:29 PM
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maybe jessica can get hired as a professional victim working for feminist frequency
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Tyranius2
07/11/18 12:57:59 PM
#277:


FrisbeeDude posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Tyranius2 posted...
Most video game news outlets are garbage, I haven't found a single one that tries to be at least neutral. They always try to pain Price as the victim
They're obviously "Colluding" to 'Control the Narative' to the outside world to those who don't follow the situation.

They should be all fired for lack of journalistic integrity.


LMAO is your bloodtype tinfoil?


Is it so far fetched though, when it's happening before our very eyes? I mean, look at every article from the major gaming journalism outlets. Polygon, Kotaku, RPS, IGN, The Verge all try to spin the story as if Price did nothing wrong.

That's not even going back to all the "gamers are dead" articles. It is actually very clear these gaming journalists are trying to push their false narrative.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 1:01:40 PM
#278:


Tyranius2 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Tyranius2 posted...
Most video game news outlets are garbage, I haven't found a single one that tries to be at least neutral. They always try to pain Price as the victim
They're obviously "Colluding" to 'Control the Narative' to the outside world to those who don't follow the situation.

They should be all fired for lack of journalistic integrity.


LMAO is your bloodtype tinfoil?


Is it so far fetched though, when it's happening before our very eyes? I mean, look at every article from the major gaming journalism outlets. Polygon, Kotaku, RPS, IGN, The Verge all try to spin the story as if Price did nothing wrong.

That's not even going back to all the "gamers are dead" articles. It is actually very clear these gaming journalists are trying to push their false narrative.


yall are wild
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KamenRiderBlade
07/11/18 3:04:45 PM
#279:


FrisbeeDude posted...
yall are wild
You're naive, or blind to the situation, or being willfully ignorant of it.

Despite evidence being shoved in your face, you refuse to acknowledge the facts of the case.
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Darkman124
07/11/18 3:12:12 PM
#281:


Highwind07 posted...
coming at


the words chosen there really tell you everything you need to know.
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LightHawKnight
07/11/18 3:22:43 PM
#282:


Highwind07 posted...
A comment from that Anita tweet: "Yes, he was. A nobody streamer with 8000 subscribers coming at a 10 year game dev veteran with "allow me to disagree with your expertise, you should do [incredibly basic thing]" is toxic no matter how polite it's formulated on the surface"

I legit lol'ed hard.

That dude was not a "nobody" streamer and a "nobody" streamer wouldn't have 8k subs anyway.


I thought she was only there for 1 year? Or is she talking about the previous job Price got fired from?
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 3:30:58 PM
#284:


Deroir is a big streamer in terms of Guild Wars 2. It was never hugely popular on Twitch so in that context he's one of the bigger more well known ones.

So is MMOINKS and Jebro who she also attacked. Two very nice guys in their own right.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/12/18 8:12:09 PM
#285:


PEW NEWS' world-famous journalist Poppy Harlow chimes in with her careful analysis of the situation! (Fast-forward to 10:14)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9XVVW7G_Fg" data-time="&start=4

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Amatsukaze
07/13/18 4:58:05 PM
#286:


chrono625 posted...
Balnazarr posted...
D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


Same happens irl too. Don't. be. stupid when you'reon the clock.


Tbf she wasnt on the clock. BUT her Twitter handle did show her as an ANet employee.


Her tweets were also relevant to the game which is of course of a product of the company.

It does not matter however that she was 'off the ckock' though anyway.
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Amatsukaze
07/13/18 5:26:16 PM
#287:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
Butterfiles posted...
why was the other dude fired tho

like he was pretty reasonable (regardless of what she said)

People in the Gw2 thread on Reddit were saying that if he hadn't been fired the company would've been hit with a discrimination lawsuit for only firing the woman.


True, better safe than sorry.
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Amatsukaze
07/13/18 5:37:30 PM
#288:


FrisbeeDude posted...
remember, clapping back on Twitter is fireable offense for a game developer if you're doing it under the banner of feminism

Lecturing liberals on identity politics and threatening to vote trump if they dont bend to your social arc? That's just keeping it real!

The gaming community continues to wonder why the outside world views it as a joke. One of the last bastions of all white, mostly conservative male group of sensibilities


When people say this while on gaming websites lmao

Would it be ok to do similarly blast rap culture for the amount of racism, sexism, violence, and misogyny?
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ColdOne666
07/13/18 6:49:17 PM
#289:


Just put Frisbee on ignore everyone. No point arguing if he's just gonna troll.
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cjsdowg
07/15/18 12:03:03 AM
#290:


Now she is claiming because the fired her and said she attacked people (which she did) they are trying to make people harass her.

https://www.pcgamer.com/fired-arenanet-dev-calls-dismissal-an-active-solicitation-of-harassment/#comment-jump

And the sad thing is people follow up this horrible horrible person because of her sex and nothing more.
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SpiritSephiroth
07/15/18 4:02:06 AM
#291:


cjsdowg posted...
Now she is claiming because the fired her and said she attacked people (which she did) they are trying to make people harass her.

https://www.pcgamer.com/fired-arenanet-dev-calls-dismissal-an-active-solicitation-of-harassment/#comment-jump

And the sad thing is people follow up this horrible horrible person because of her sex and nothing more.


Its funny because she is actively setting other companies and "journalists" against arenanet, actively harrassing them.

Shes comparable to a huge piece of brown shit on the street curb >_>
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Esrac
07/15/18 4:09:15 AM
#292:


cjsdowg posted...
Now she is claiming because the fired her and said she attacked people (which she did) they are trying to make people harass her.

https://www.pcgamer.com/fired-arenanet-dev-calls-dismissal-an-active-solicitation-of-harassment/#comment-jump

And the sad thing is people follow up this horrible horrible person because of her sex and nothing more.


Ah. The Sarkeesian Gambit. A bold play.
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shnangyboos
07/15/18 4:17:43 AM
#293:


I can only imagine the conversations this bitch has been having with her friends and colleagues since this happened.
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Tmk
07/15/18 10:35:59 AM
#294:


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gunplagirl
07/17/18 4:37:30 AM
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Tmk
07/17/18 4:43:47 AM
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Considering how hard they tried to push a single reddit post as representing the entire GW2 community to demonise Price's opponents despite it turning out to not only be out of context and unsupported in the community but made by a Price supporter who hates the GW2 community and was deliberately misrepresenting them...

I'm noticing a distinct lack of proof in that tweet. Anyone can claim that and it sounds pretty made up. Unfortunately, a feminist on the internet these days is about as trustworthy as a Nigerian Prince. They can't make baseless claims and expect to be believed. I mean believed by people other than other feminists.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 4:49:34 AM
#298:


gunplagirl posted...
https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1016893122565947392?s=03

Assuming truth, how does that relate to firing someone for denegrading and insulting the community that spends money on the stuff she's employed to make?

Should we not fire unprofessional asshats because people on the internet might respond weirdly?

Also why are we pretending this is a one-way street. I distinctly remember some people in the SJW community trying to get youtuber Thunderf00t fired for "being a nazi" a few years ago and that being lauded. Certainly the people involved are still darlings of the youtube social justice movement.
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Tmk
07/17/18 4:51:01 AM
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Oh yeah I remember that.
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gunplagirl
07/17/18 4:58:50 AM
#300:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
gunplagirl posted...
https://twitter.com/Ettin64/status/1016893122565947392?s=03

Assuming truth, how does that relate to firing someone for denegrading and insulting the community that spends money on the stuff she's employed to make?

Should we not fire unprofessional asshats because people on the internet might respond weirdly?

Also why are we pretending this is a one-way street. I distinctly remember some people in the SJW community trying to get youtuber Thunderf00t fired for "being a nazi" a few years ago and that being lauded. Certainly the people involved are still darlings of the youtube social justice movement.


It means that the outrage and complaints weren't even from players or even humans who would potentially stop using the company's games. Could be a few hundred, could be a few dozen and several set up the bots to spam the company.

And nazism is indefensible, and several magnitudes worse than a developer getting snarky at people who assumed she didn't know the basics of her job because she's a woman. Comparing the two is not exactly the best comparison.
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ColdOne666
07/17/18 5:02:10 AM
#301:


Didn't take long for the board's resident troll to turn up.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/17/18 5:02:26 AM
#302:


gunplagirl posted...
It means that the outrage and complaints weren't even from players or even humans who would potentially stop using the company's games. Could be a few hundred, could be a few dozen and several set up the bots to spam the company.

The company CEO has clearly said the decision to axe the two perpetrators were made before any outrage happened so why is that remotely relevant to anything?

gunplagirl posted...
And nazism is indefensible, and several magnitudes worse than a developer getting snarky at people who assumed she didn't know the basics of her job because she's a woman. Comparing the two is not exactly the best comparison.

1) Holding stupid (and dangerous) views is not a more fireable offense than berating your customers

2) The accusations were bullshit

3) Nobody assumed she didn't know the basics of her job
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shnangyboos
07/17/18 5:04:00 AM
#303:


ColdOne666 posted...
Didn't take long for the board's resident troll to turn up.


It actually took quite a bit longer than I would have expected.
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Tmk
07/17/18 5:13:20 AM
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Trying to argue it was bots and not the actual playerbase being outraged is not only patently false, anyone who spent literally like 10 seconds on the reddit board for GW2 when the shit hit the fan would know that. Even without doing that, you can make some pretty logical conclusions by reviewing the fact that she attacked and insulted one of the most popular and visible players in the fanbase, and then later doubled down and started attacking OTHER highly respected members of the community. Topics on reddit about it criticising her for it were the most upvoted topics there period and it was clear a lot of people were not happy about how she was treating people.

Just reviewing what she did, and to who, it should be obvious the fanbase would be upset by that.

But arguing with someone making points like this is gonna be like arguing with a diehard Trump supporter: they're fed their talking points from propaganda and they will not budge from them no matter how many facts and logical arguments are thrown at them. The defenses of Price are all shoddy and basically going for a shotgun approach of just throw everything in for her and see what sticks.
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Rimmer_Dall
07/17/18 5:29:15 AM
#305:


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