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ollie89 07/06/18 10:23:32 AM #1: |
http://www.towleroad.com/2018/07/mls-collin-martin/
Minnesota Uniteds Collin Martin got a huge standing ovation: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/07/04/minnesota-united-fc-fans-give-collin-martin-emotional-standing-ovation Isn't it crazy how fast society has changed for the better? Can you imagine if a soccer player had come out like ten years ago? I doubt they would have received the same reception that Collin Martin did. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zach_is_back 07/06/18 10:25:50 AM #2: |
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 10:28:24 AM #3: |
I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me?
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ollie89 07/06/18 10:30:51 AM #4: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? Probably because the world of sports is still rife with homophobia. That's slowly changing though. One day when people come out, it probably won't even be a big deal. But we're not there yet. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Roshon 07/06/18 10:34:18 AM #5: |
Awesome!
So glad he had the courage to come out! Very proud of him. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 07/06/18 10:34:38 AM #6: |
So were supposed to applaud for someone announcing theyre attracted to penis?
Wheres the applause for the rest of the players who announce that they like vagina. Oh wait maybe its because they dont feel the need to announce their sexual orientation. #MAGA #TRIGGERED #REEEEEE --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 07/06/18 10:35:39 AM #7: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? In most of the soccer world a gay player would be terrorised still, unfortunately. It's very fucking backwards. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alphamon 07/06/18 10:36:35 AM #8: |
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Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? civilized europe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenLurker 07/06/18 10:36:56 AM #9: |
Ok.
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Abyssea 07/06/18 10:38:36 AM #10: |
pinky0926 posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? don't bother answering him. he'll probably never be back. Just wanted a chance to shit on gay people since we don't have a gay cake topic going at the moment. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fate1021 07/06/18 10:40:24 AM #11: |
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Roshon 07/06/18 10:41:18 AM #12: |
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 10:44:43 AM #13: |
A good time to come out when soccer is the all the hype. Remember when a player from the WNBA came out and no one cared?
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pinky0926 07/06/18 10:49:37 AM #14: |
Abyssea posted...
pinky0926 posted...Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? Oh I see. One of those. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 07/06/18 10:52:05 AM #15: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? In most cases, applauding someone simply for their sexual preference is ridiculous, but to be openly gay in the sports' world takes massive balls. You open yourself up to all sorts of bigotry from rowdy fans to macho homophobes in the locker room. The fact that he's the only one out and the first in 2018 should tell you just how big a deal it is. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ollie89 07/06/18 10:52:46 AM #16: |
GameGodOfAll posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? Good post, GameGodOfAll. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barenziah Boy Toy 07/06/18 10:53:25 AM #18: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. They're not cheered for their sexual preference. They're cheered for having courage. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 07/06/18 10:53:40 AM #19: |
GameGodOfAll posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? You shouldn't have had to make this post --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ollie89 07/06/18 10:54:29 AM #21: |
Asherlee10 posted...
ollie89 posted...Can you imagine if a soccer player had come out like ten years ago? I doubt they would have received the same reception that Collin Martin did. Same here, Asher. --- Woo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 07/06/18 10:58:32 AM #22: |
MedzXVIII posted...
A good time to come out when soccer is the all the hype. Remember when a player from the WNBA came out and no one cared? You sure you're not thinking of Jason Collins in the NBA? A large chunk of the WNBA is gay :| --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shopaholic163 07/06/18 10:58:41 AM #23: |
ollie89 posted...
Minnesota Uniteds Collin Martin got a huge standing ovation: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/07/04/minnesota-united-fc-fans-give-collin-martin-emotional-standing-ovation --- Lotus - the flower that survives and thrives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 10:58:55 AM #24: |
I see. I didn't realize being gay was such a big deal in the world of soccer. I guess I was under the impression that being gay is pretty well accepted in most places now.
I understand it definitely does take courage, and there's no good reason for anyone to hate you just because you're gay; that's ridiculous. Another curiosity I have on this topic... Why do people feel the need to come out publicly? Isn't your sexuality something personal that you generally keep out of your professional life? I understand the need to come out to your close friends and family, but to the public, or in a professional environment? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 07/06/18 11:00:56 AM #25: |
ollie89 posted...
Good post, GameGodOfAll. Thanks. Twin3Turbo posted... GameGodOfAll posted...Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? Even if that dude is trolling (not saying he is cause I don't know him well enough) I'm glad he posted because there are totally people out there who do think that way and maybe just don't realize why it's a big deal. They may not even have anything against gay people, they might just not be aware of the whole situation since being openly gay in American society these days isn't viewed as anything noteworthy. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 11:01:44 AM #27: |
ollie89 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...ollie89 posted...Can you imagine if a soccer player had come out like ten years ago? I doubt they would have received the same reception that Collin Martin did. Same here --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 07/06/18 11:03:03 AM #28: |
Bio1590 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...A good time to come out when soccer is the all the hype. Remember when a player from the WNBA came out and no one cared? More WNBA players come out for a standing ovation. --- Hi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 11:12:04 AM #29: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...@pinky0926 posted...Abyssea posted...pinky0926 posted...Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? Clearly you people do not understand who I am, what I believe, or why I believe it. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 07/06/18 11:14:05 AM #31: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Asherlee10 posted...Asherlee10 posted...@pinky0926 posted...Abyssea posted...pinky0926 posted...Vindris_SNH posted...I don't get why people are cheered for because of their sexual preference. Can someone explain this to me? Can you please not tell us about it? No one wants to be converted here, thank you. I can sense you're gearing up for it. Geno's talking about Jesus in his other topic, why not entertain him instead? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 11:14:24 AM #32: |
What did you think I really wanted to talk about?
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 11:16:22 AM #33: |
You think I'm here to talk about Jesus? Uhh.. wasn't planning on it. Just had a few on-topic questions and that's it. Not here to bash or preach.
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 11:18:35 AM #34: |
Since Ollie seems like one of the few rational people here, I'll ask him directly...
@ollie89 Another curiosity I have on this topic... Why do people feel the need to come out publicly? Isn't your sexuality something personal that you generally keep out of your professional life? I understand the need to come out to your close friends and family, but to the public, or in a professional environment? --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 07/06/18 11:19:33 AM #35: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
What did you think I really wanted to talk about? Probably trying to get to where you can go on about how you don't understand how people can be proud of their "lifestyle" or something like that. Then maybe some more stuff about religious freedom and how oppressed Christians are. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 11:27:14 AM #36: |
Abyssea posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...What did you think I really wanted to talk about? Everyone should be proud of their lifestyle, otherwise they're doing something wrong. If your lifestyle doesn't match your convictions, you need to make a change. Again, you clearly have a very wrong idea of who I am. I'd be happy to get to know you. PM me. Most people are decent people. Getting to know each other usually nurtures a mutual respect. Making assumptions about someone creates animosity. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 07/06/18 11:27:16 AM #37: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Another curiosity I have on this topic... Why do people feel the need to come out publicly? Isn't your sexuality something personal that you generally keep out of your professional life? I understand the need to come out to your close friends and family, but to the public, or in a professional environment? If you took some time to think about it, you'd figure this out for yourself. When you're in a public position like this, coming out is empowering to other people. Other gay people won't feel as alienated in the sports community if they see high profile people like this come out and are accepted. That's why him getting applauded is a big deal. But no, the average person doesn't really have much reason to out themselves to anyone but close family and friends. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 07/06/18 11:29:15 AM #38: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
I see. I didn't realize being gay was such a big deal in the world of soccer. I guess I was under the impression that being gay is pretty well accepted in most places now. In soccer it's still common for fans to throw bananas onto the pitch when a black guy is taking a corner. We're not talking about the most socially progressive bunch here. Turn your last question on its head. Imagine if someone at your work casually asked you if you had a boyfriend and you had to lie and say yes you did, because admitting you had a girlfriend is so socially unacceptable it could make you a social pariah or get you fired. So "coming out" isn't about wearing a rainbow shirt and acting like the world's biggest fairy in everyone's faces. It's really just about being able to admit it without it being a problem. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Abyssea 07/06/18 11:30:02 AM #39: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Again, you clearly have a very wrong idea of who I am. I'd be happy to get to know you. PM me. Most people are decent people. Getting to know each other usually nurtures a mutual respect. Making assumptions about someone creates animosity. are you cute? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vindris_SNH 07/06/18 11:31:33 AM #40: |
Abyssea posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...Another curiosity I have on this topic... Why do people feel the need to come out publicly? Isn't your sexuality something personal that you generally keep out of your professional life? I understand the need to come out to your close friends and family, but to the public, or in a professional environment? That makes sense. Thanks for the solid answer. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 07/06/18 11:31:54 AM #41: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Since Ollie seems like one of the few rational people here, I'll ask him directly... It's fortunately getting to the point where fewer people are needing to "come out" like it's a big reveal and it's trending to be more them just simply not hiding it. At least in Hollywood and stuff, but again, sports are different. It's important to have people in the public eye come out as a sign that there's nothing wrong with being gay. Even with as small a following as American soccer has, even if just one young fan that happens to be gay (or hell, even an older one) sees a major league player come out, it sends the message that there is nothing to hide. It's even better when that person is shown acceptance which seems to be the case here. It's a big deal because you would never see this happen just around a decade ago. We shouldn't need anyone's sexual orientation to be newsworthy, but we're still working towards homosexuality being a thing that's perceived as normal by society. Every step forward is progress and the more meaningless each "X comes out as gay" story seems to be, the closer we are to it not being a big deal whatsoever, which is the goal here. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 07/06/18 11:34:25 AM #42: |
I would note that US soccer fans tend to be more progressive than European ones. Martin came out before Minnesota's pride night, at which fans unveiled this banner: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018/06/29/minnesota-united-fc-supporters-reveal-pride-night-every-night-tifo
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Barenziah Boy Toy 07/06/18 11:57:21 AM #43: |
Vindris_SNH posted...
Why do people feel the need to come out publicly? Isn't your sexuality something personal that you generally keep out of your professional life? I understand the need to come out to your close friends and family, but to the public, or in a professional environment? Probably because heterosexuals get to flaunt their status and hold hands and go out on dates without anyone batting a fucking eye. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 07/06/18 12:02:02 PM #44: |
Wow, he looks great
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hockeybub89 07/06/18 12:08:01 PM #45: |
I wonder exactly how many closeted gay people are in professional sports. Has to be quite a few. I wonder why they're still so weird about it in 2018.
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Barenziah Boy Toy 07/06/18 12:12:35 PM #46: |
hockeybub89 posted...
I wonder exactly how many closeted gay people are in professional sports. Has to be quite a few. I wonder why they're still so weird about it in 2018. Have you ever been in a men's locker room with athletes? --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} ... Copied to Clipboard!
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halomonkey1_3_5 07/06/18 12:14:08 PM #47: |
you'd think the twink sport would be accepting smh
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Minecraft10 07/06/18 2:08:22 PM #48: |
Proud of the guy <3
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KirbyMagicWand 07/06/18 6:08:43 PM #49: |
Very nice.
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Lord_Shadow 07/06/18 6:18:56 PM #50: |
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